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Why do Hmongs hate ?
moryHX
post Apr 11 2006, 11:28 PM
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^ (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif) 2 my gosh...and that is why yax said,"Well, based on your limited definition I'm not of Hmong origin since: 1. I don't hate other Hmong people as you describe. 2. I don't see myself as being selfish as you describe. 3. I don't think I'm superior to any other Hmong."

gosh...people are so funny...why do they always have to go on about, "well, so and so and so is like this too!" cas es...tsis paub muab topics narrow down li os!?!?! ib pliag ces kuv txawm yog tus uas superior tuaj lawm thiab...yam li ib tug neeg tau hais which is even funnier too!!! (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif) 2 AF does a very good job to make me laugh...
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post Apr 13 2006, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE (Illosopher @ Apr 11 2006, 10:43 PM) *
Because this is a Hmong forum and i'm talking about HMONGS ... if i would to ask how come Lions are undomesticated then i was wrong because i didn't asked how come Tigers aren't also..and so on.. umm..
shut up..


You asked a question. I answered. So don't tell me to shut up when you're the one asking.
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post Apr 14 2006, 01:54 AM
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QUOTE (red_eyes @ Apr 13 2006, 06:36 PM) *
You asked a question. I answered. So don't tell me to shut up when you're the one asking.



Because i didn't ask you to ask me a question... either you give an answer or leave your ignorant remark to yourself. Because obviously we are all humans... no matter how i address a problem there's always a dumb fu-k, such as yourself that always use the same excuse on how Hmongs aren't the only ones... once again... SHUT UP!!!

QUOTE (red_eyes @ Apr 13 2006, 06:36 PM) *
You asked a question. I answered. So don't tell me to shut up when you're the one asking.


By the way i reworded my comment...
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post Apr 14 2006, 03:46 AM
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post Apr 15 2006, 01:23 PM
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Because i didn't ask you to ask me a question... either you give an answer or leave your ignorant remark to yourself. Because obviously we are all humans... no matter how i address a problem there's always a dumb fu-k, such as yourself that always use the same excuse on how Hmongs aren't the only ones... once again... SHUT UP!!!


Quit your b!tching. Why do you always have to hate on the Hmong huh? Why is it that you're always making it seems like it's the Hmong that's always doing the hating and doing the bad stuff? It ain't just the Hmong. It's everybody. It doesn't matter what race people, people gonna still hate. And look, you just hated on me when I answered your stupid question. What's with the hating? You asked why Hmong are hating and the first thing you did was hate on me when I answered.

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post Apr 15 2006, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(Yax @ Apr 6 2006, 04:58 PM) [snapback]1725736[/snapback]

Are you white? If so, I'd prefer it if you called me by my real nationality. I'm AMERICAN now. Got my citizenship a couple of decades ago.

However, the mere fact that you're still referring to me as Hmong indicates that you will never accept me as a real American. Which is contrary to what my citizenship certificate says. Who's the hater now?



dude... you're hmong... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sure.gif) or as you would like to believe.. "Hmong American" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggthumpup.gif)

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cant we all jus hate?? then we'll all jus be haters and "hateing" would be considered as the norm... and in the first place... hmong ppl dont hate as a group... its those few idiots that talk alot of shiot and start stuff cus they're stupid... (im hmong btw.. if it makes a difference (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_smile.gif) )

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post Apr 16 2006, 08:05 AM
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QUOTE(Silencer91 @ Apr 15 2006, 11:52 PM) [snapback]1755824[/snapback]

dude... you're hmong... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sure.gif) or as you would like to believe.. "Hmong American" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggthumpup.gif)


Oh yeah, you'll always be Hmong, because no matter how hard you try, White American will never accept you as an American. Sure, you may be a citizen, but you'll never be a true American.
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post Apr 16 2006, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(Silencer91 @ Apr 15 2006, 11:52 PM) [snapback]1755824[/snapback]

cant we all jus hate?? then we'll all jus be haters and "hateing" would be considered as the norm... and in the first place... hmong ppl dont hate as a group... its those few idiots that talk alot of shiot and start stuff cus they're stupid... (im hmong btw.. if it makes a difference (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_smile.gif) )

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) i'd have to agree to your point that Hmoob people don't hate as a group and that it is those few individuals who instigate issues...and i think if we all hate so as to make it become a norm...i feel that that won't be healthy...

and to the creator of this thread...i understand why you narrowed it down to JUST the Hmoob people...I think some people can't understand that concept...of course we all know that other ethnicities hate too...but the question is...is it SO wrong to adress this issue of HMONG people (itself) hating each other? but yeah...anyhow, that wasn't what i wanted to say to you, but...you should not have cussed at the other guy...red eyes i believe...forgot...but yeah...cussing won't get one very far...it will only create more tension...
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post Apr 17 2006, 03:10 AM
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i just wanna say (as a "white american")DONT KILL ME and to say that white america will never accept you as a american is fu-ked up dude if you live in america legally your a fu-king american you just want to say all this so you can be like whiteys keeping me down fu-k whitey and be angry and thats not cool maybe the reason people around you dont accept you is because your stuck up and dont want them to.....
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post Apr 17 2006, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(moryHX @ Apr 16 2006, 09:19 PM) [snapback]1758328[/snapback]

i think if we all hate so as to make it become a norm...i feel that that won't be healthy...



i was bein sarcastic (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sure.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif)

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post Apr 18 2006, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE(tizzy @ Apr 17 2006, 03:10 AM) [snapback]1759627[/snapback]

i just wanna say (as a "white american")DONT KILL ME and to say that white america will never accept you as a american is fu-ked up dude if you live in america legally your a fu-king american you just want to say all this so you can be like whiteys keeping me down fu-k whitey and be angry and thats not cool maybe the reason people around you dont accept you is because your stuck up and dont want them to.....


Hahaha. Fine, racism doesn't exist anymore. Hmong are being treated as a white person. Take Chai Vang for example. Those white man were loving him and giving him hugs and it's because he's a Hmong that he hated on them and killed them all. It has nothing to do with the fact that they called him racist names and threaten him and shot him but missed, all because he was Hmong. Yeah, that's acceptance.
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post Apr 19 2006, 12:30 AM
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There' re lots of racism in American. I' m too tired of American people looking down on Hmongs. They don' t actually mistreat you, but act as if you' re a dumb, not-educated, and so on... I' m tired of the old crap!

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post Apr 19 2006, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(Samurai Drive @ Apr 19 2006, 12:30 AM) [snapback]1766062[/snapback]

There' re lots of racism in American. I' m too tired of American people looking down on Hmongs. They don' t actually mistreat you, but act as if you' re a dumb, not-educated, and so on... I' m tired of the old crap!


ah yes finally someone who understands then again it really doesn't matter if u know that cause it goes back to why do u hate a certain individual and why hate at all, in the end its up to each person to try and understand one another then trying to hate on each other
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post Apr 20 2006, 08:38 AM
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its a good thing that we don't have a country....because we will be hated by other country than the US.
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post Apr 20 2006, 10:46 PM
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I bet the US are so fed up with Hmongs... But there' s nothing they can do because we helped them in the war...LOL They have no choice but to accept us.
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post Apr 22 2006, 11:57 AM
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That's true. In law they accepted us. But in reality, they don't. And that is also why they would not help out Hmong people who are being kill in Laos right now, even though we helped American in the Vietnam War.
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post Apr 22 2006, 01:50 PM
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post Apr 22 2006, 03:49 PM
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True....big problem with homeless Hmong in Asia...nobody wants them....

If we did have our own country....things would be better...it would be AWESOME! Hmong government and all...even fu-kin tribes in pacific islands have their own nation and they are doing great...
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post Apr 22 2006, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(Illosopher @ Apr 6 2006, 12:49 AM) [snapback]1723690[/snapback]

I have seen on numerous sites on how Hmongs claim that other minority group hates on them... but instead i have come to a realization that Hmongs hate on others and themselves even more. They help to contribute these sort of feelings because of the ignorance some of us put fourth and portray. How can Hmongs as a whole be victims when America has offer more freedom then any other countries?

...just random thoughts.



1. You have to consider that Hmongs have been minority in every country they (as in WE) have settled in. We abide by their laws. Our culture is influenced by theirs and some how, we grow up with the embedded ideas that we need to adapt to them. With that in mind, we set ourselves apart from the majority (Americans, for example).. After that, we look amongst our people and start dividing the lines one who is more American, who is more of this and that.. Shoot, it even goes as far as wanting to look Korean or BE Korean (haha, yeah, you Hmongs know what I'm talking about)... yes.. it's people's ignorance that has a factor in the hating. It's also the weight of their discontent in smply being Hmong and knowing that they ARE Hmong...

2. We may have the freedom in America but there's still a lot of horrible things that are happening to the Hmongs in other parts of the world. Just the thought of recent tortures and discriminations still gets to me. We may be standing on a land of freedom, but we got a longgg way to go in exploring opportunities that this country offers us. It's a pity that some Hmongs simply don't care. Any ways.. like said.. we need to reduce tripping over who's more American, who's more fine-looking, who's more "npab nauj", etc.. ..

If we continue tripping on each other, we will all fall down in the end.

QUOTE(red_eyes @ Apr 22 2006, 12:57 PM) [snapback]1776893[/snapback]

That's true. In law they accepted us. But in reality, they don't. And that is also why they would not help out Hmong people who are being kill in Laos right now, even though we helped American in the Vietnam War.

agh,.... we were 1 - cent - pawns.
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post Apr 28 2006, 04:39 AM
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QUOTE(MyDreams84 @ Apr 22 2006, 09:50 PM) [snapback]1778300[/snapback]

1. You have to consider that Hmongs have been minority in every country they (as in WE) have settled in. We abide by their laws. Our culture is influenced by theirs and some how, we grow up with the embedded ideas that we need to adapt to them. With that in mind, we set ourselves apart from the majority (Americans, for example).. After that, we look amongst our people and start dividing the lines one who is more American, who is more of this and that.. Shoot, it even goes as far as wanting to look Korean or BE Korean (haha, yeah, you Hmongs know what I'm talking about)... yes.. it's people's ignorance that has a factor in the hating. It's also the weight of their discontent in smply being Hmong and knowing that they ARE Hmong...

2. We may have the freedom in America but there's still a lot of horrible things that are happening to the Hmongs in other parts of the world. Just the thought of recent tortures and discriminations still gets to me. We may be standing on a land of freedom, but we got a longgg way to go in exploring opportunities that this country offers us. It's a pity that some Hmongs simply don't care. Any ways.. like said.. we need to reduce tripping over who's more American, who's more fine-looking, who's more "npab nauj", etc.. ..

If we continue tripping on each other, we will all fall down in the end.

I was wondering when this will be back on topic...and i agree with what you said!
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