Ham Nghi's The? Ba`i, Lost and Found Options

[drunk_on_tea]

Thừa Thiên- Huế: Phát hiện một thẻ bài quý hiếm thời vua Hàm Nghi

Chiếc thẻ bài này do bác sĩ, nhà sưu tầm đồ cổ Nguyễn Anh Huy (220 Chi Lăng, Huế) phát hiện được ở Tân Sở, Quảng Trị.
Thẻ bài có hình chữ nhật, một mặt ghi 4 chữ “Hàm Nghi niên chế”; một mặt ghi hai chữ: “Thượng công”. Đây là một trong những hiện vật quý hiếm. Bởi sau khi vua Đồng Khánh lên ngôi (1886), đã ra đạo dụ: “Cấm dùng hai chữ Hàm Nghi”, nên những hiện vật liên quan đến Hàm Nghi, ông vua yêu nước, đã bị thu hồi. Theo các nhà nghiên cứu, thẻ bài này là một loại huy chương của vua Hàm Nghi dùng ban thưởng cho các nghĩa quân trong phong trào Cần Vương

(IMG:http://tintucvietnam.net/Vietnam/UIM/1237572069/2004-5-12/vh-Thebai.jpg)

Courtesy of tintucvietnam.net

[tattra]

Did they say what kind of metal it was, D.O. T ? ... and anyone knows what exactly the word "đạo dụ" mean ?

Bởi sau khi vua Đồng Khánh lên ngôi (1886), đã ra đạo dụ: “Cấm dùng hai chữ Hàm Nghi”

[Doan Du]

Did they say what kind of metal it was, D.O. T ? ... and anyone knows what exactly the word "đạo dụ" mean ?

Bởi sau khi vua Đồng Khánh lên ngôi (1886), đã ra đạo dụ: “Cấm dùng hai chữ Hàm Nghi”

Directive?

I am sure it's gold.

[drunk_on_tea]

Did they say what kind of metal it was, D.O. T ? ... and anyone knows what exactly the word "đạo dụ" mean ?

Bởi sau khi vua Đồng Khánh lên ngôi (1886), đã ra đạo dụ: “Cấm dùng hai chữ Hàm Nghi”

Directive?

I am sure it's gold.

You sure DoanDu? It looks like regular metal to me, maybe it's the photography.
What was the Can Vuong movement all about?

[Nam Quoc Son Ha]

Did they say what kind of metal it was, D.O. T ? ... and anyone knows what exactly the word "đạo dụ" mean ?

Bởi sau khi vua Đồng Khánh lên ngôi (1886), đã ra đạo dụ: “Cấm dùng hai chữ Hàm Nghi”

Directive?

I am sure it's gold.

Don't be so sure. Doesn't look anything like gold.

[Doan Du]

Did they say what kind of metal it was, D.O. T ? ... and anyone knows what exactly the word "đạo dụ" mean ?

Bởi sau khi vua Đồng Khánh lên ngôi (1886), đã ra đạo dụ: “Cấm dùng hai chữ Hàm Nghi”

Directive?

I am sure it's gold.

You sure DoanDu? It looks like regular metal to me, maybe it's the photography.
What was the Can Vuong movement all about?

In a nutshell, Can Vuong was the movement designed by Ton That Thuyet and Nguyen van Tuong - Ham Nghi's most trusted and senior mandarins - to fight French control on the Vietnamese throne.

It was poorly planned and executed. Ham Nghi was caught by the French and sent in exile in Reunion island. Ham Nghi later married a French woman and lived out his days on the island. Both TTT and NVT committed suicide.

Ton That Thuyet and Nguyen van Tuong were ignorant men. They didn't know then that China was even weaker than Vietnam at that point in time. They advised Ham Nghi to give away Tonkin (North Vietnam) to China in order to save it from the French whom they perceived as evil and uncivilized.

[Nam Quoc Son Ha]

Did they say what kind of metal it was, D.O. T ? ... and anyone knows what exactly the word "đạo dụ" mean ?

Bởi sau khi vua Đồng Khánh lên ngôi (1886), đã ra đạo dụ: “Cấm dùng hai chữ Hàm Nghi”

Directive?

I am sure it's gold.

You sure DoanDu? It looks like regular metal to me, maybe it's the photography.
What was the Can Vuong movement all about?

In a nutshell, Can Vuong was the movement designed by Ton That Thuyet and Nguyen van Tuong - Ham Nghi's most trusted and senior mandarins - to fight French control on the Vietnamese throne.

It was poorly planned and executed. Ham Nghi was caught by the French and sent in exile in Reunion island. Ham Nghi later married a French woman and lived out his days on the island. Both TTT and NVT committed suicide.

Ton That Thuyet and Nguyen van Tuong were ignorant men. They didn't know then that China was even weaker than Vietnam at that point in time. They advised Ham Nghi to give away Tonkin (North Vietnam) to China in order to save it from the French whom they perceived as evil and uncivilized.

WTF? Giving our land to China? I can't believe they even think of it. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/madgo.gif)

[Doan Du]

I am only speculating but The Bai is the Vietnamized version of Kim Bai (Chinese Jin Pai) or Gold tablet. It's what the emperor or king used in the old days to issue special orders or directives.

[Nam Quoc Son Ha]

Kim bai doesn't have to be gold. Some where made of silver or other lesser metals.

[Doan Du]

Kim bai doesn't have to be gold. Some where made of silver or other lesser metals.

Kim = gold

I think the emperor has a prestige to protect. Anything that carries or signifies his word or his order has to be made out of precious metal.

[Nam Quoc Son Ha]

Yes I know kim= gold. What I'm saying is that they're not exclusively made of gold.

[tattra]

[quote=Doan Du,May 13 2004, 12:24 AM] [QUOTE]Bởi sau khi vua Đồng Khánh lên ngôi (1886), đã ra đạo dụ: “Cấm dùng hai chữ Hàm Nghi”[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]
Directive?

I am sure it's gold. [/quote]
Thanks Doan Du.

[DAI_VIET]

Goddamn Dong Khanh.