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North Korea shuns Chinese diplomacy |
Jul 13 2006, 08:10 AM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,470 Joined: 16-September 05 From: Hong Kong |
QUOTE North Korea shuns Chinese diplomacy Justin McCurry in Tokyo Thursday July 13, 2006 The Guardian Hopes for an early end to the North Korean missile crisis were dashed today after China reportedly failed to persuade its ally to stop test-firing missiles and return to six-party talks on its nuclear weapons programme. Talks between South and North Korea also ended in failure, with Seoul's top negotiator returning home a day earlier than planned. Attention is now expected to turn to the UN security council, whose permanent members are split on a Japanese motion calling for sanctions against North Korea. North Korea caused international uproar last week when it test-fired seven missiles into the Sea of Japan, including a long-range ballistic missile thought to be capable of striking the US mainland. The US assistant secretary of state, Christopher Hill, said Chinese negotiators were "baffled" by North Korea's refusal to respond to diplomatic overtures from its biggest aid donor and closest ally. "Through this all, we have sought to speak with one voice and make a clear signal on what [the North Koreans] need to do," Mr Hill told reporters in Beijing today. "So far they don't seem to be interested in listening, much less doing anything to address the situation. "I think the Chinese are as baffled as we are. China has done so much for that country and that country seems intent on taking all of China's generosity and then giving nothing back." The UN security council had agreed to postpone a vote on sanctions to give more time to China's chief negotiator, Wu Dawei, who is due to return to Beijing tomorrow. Wang Guangya, China's ambassador to the UN, said North Korea had yet to respond to Chinese concerns over the tests. China and Russia oppose Japan's call for a ban on the transfer of money, technology and materials that could be used for North Korea's missile programme and have tabled a resolution that "strongly deplores" the missile tests but which does not mention punitive measures. The resolution is being interpreted as a sign that Russia and China are taking a harder line against North Korea; last week they called on the security council only to issue a presidential statement on the tests. But Japan's UN envoy, Kenzo Oshima, said it would be "very difficult" to accept the Russian and Chinese resolution in its present form. Mr Hill said he was confident the security council's permanent members could reach agreement. "These are tense times, these are difficult times," he said. "There will be a very strong, very clear message to North Korea." China, meanwhile, accused Japan of "pouring oil on the fire" after Japan's chief cabinet secretary, Shinzo Abe, said his country should look into the possibility of pre-emptive military strikes against North Korean launch sites. There are question marks over the legality of pre-emptive strikes as Japan's constitution forbids it from using military force to resolve international disputes. Jiang Yu, a Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman, said of Mr Abe's comments: "This practice is extremely irresponsible and incomprehensible and it will only seriously disrupt international diplomatic efforts and accelerate tensions in north-east Asia." Mr Abe repeated Japan's determination to push for a security council vote on sanctions now that China's diplomatic efforts appear to have failed. "We can't be twisted around by any attempts to buy time to water down the strong resolve of the international community over the firing of the missiles." Talks between the two Koreas broke up early after South Korea refused its neighbour's demand for 500,000 tonnes of rice, saying it would suspend all food aid in response to the tests. The US and South Korea are reportedly considering resuming multilateral talks on North Korea's nuclear weapons programme, even in its absence. "In the event of the North's continued refusal [to attend], a five-party meeting could be an alternative," the Yonhap news agency quoted a South Korean diplomat as saying. North Korea walked away from the talks, last held in November. It has asked repeatedly for the release of funds in a Macao-based bank frozen by the US Treasury. This post has been edited by BigBenChow: Jul 13 2006, 08:13 AM |
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Jul 13 2006, 11:23 AM
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AF Supreme Group: Members Posts: 11,388 Joined: 12-December 03 From: TEAM RAMROD |
Both S. Korea and China don't want to see any military action taken against N. Korea. That could easily result in the collapse of the government and tons of refugees flooding into their nations. Which of course, they do not want.
In any case, aren't China and Russia drawing up another resolution but less harsh than the one Japan wrote up? |
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Jul 13 2006, 11:26 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,106 Joined: 20-April 06 From: Guangzhou |
well japan is separated by water so it doesn't have to be worry about refugees. whereas I don't think neither China nor SK wants to see military action. it is going to destabilize the region.
and is NK's military really a walk in the park like some posters make it out to be. you can't just bomb them and expect no retaliation can you? the end result is NK while defiant is still better than having any military conflict, at least in China's view. If the U.S. does decide to act militarily, it will be acting alone. China is not going to let the U.S. take off from its bases. I am not sure if SK would support it either but maybe it won't really have a choice if it happens. This post has been edited by mobi3232: Jul 13 2006, 11:35 AM |
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Jul 13 2006, 11:38 AM
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AF Supreme Group: Members Posts: 11,388 Joined: 12-December 03 From: TEAM RAMROD |
QUOTE(mobi3232 @ Jul 13 2006, 11:26 AM) [snapback]2046635[/snapback] well japan is separated by water so it doesn't have to be worry about refugees. whereas I don't think neither China nor SK wants to see military action. it is going to destabilize the region. and is NK's military really a walk in the park like some posters make it out to be. you can't just bomb them and expect no retaliation can you? the end result is NK while defiant is still better than having any military conflict, at least in China's view. If the U.S. does decide to act militarily, it will be acting alone. China is not going to let the U.S. take off from its bases. I am not sure if SK would support it either but maybe it won't really have a choice if it happens. Naw. The US will have Japan for sure. Of course there will be retaliation, but in the end, the government, which is weak, will be toppled. I don't think N. Korea will let it get to military action anyways. KJI probably knows what would happen if the US decided to go ahead and attack, plus the US isn't even equipped for it ATM. I think they're just holding out until they get offered incentives like Iran. |
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BigBenChow North Korea shuns Chinese diplomacy Jul 13 2006, 08:10 AM
Suijen Cheap-o. Jul 13 2006, 10:24 AM
northwestern_student doesn't matter. china will support north korea... Jul 13 2006, 11:20 AM
ABC in NYC I disagree...China wants to keep there $... Jul 13 2006, 11:22 AM

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mobi3232 well it does sound good to China and Korea but wha... Jul 13 2006, 05:25 PM
Suijen QUOTE(chynagongju @ Jul 13 2006, 10:23 AM... Jul 13 2006, 11:44 AM
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shaolin01 Those NK are pushing for a invasion. i doubt they ... Jul 13 2006, 03:20 PM
Adee I wonder what happens next. Jul 13 2006, 05:31 PM
kimmyjung I have nothing against a united Korea but what is ... Jul 13 2006, 05:35 PM
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mobi3232 while I would like to see what is proposed here ha... Jul 14 2006, 02:35 PM
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chynagongju Okay. So let's say that China does agree to at... Jul 14 2006, 07:46 PM
BigBenChow QUOTE(chynagongju @ Jul 14 2006, 08:46 PM... Jul 14 2006, 09:09 PM
chilli21 QUOTE(BigBenChow @ Jul 15 2006, 12:09 PM)... Jul 15 2006, 07:30 PM
chilli21 military actions against NK can destablise the reg... Jul 14 2006, 08:00 PM
ktchong ^ yeah, you have a point there. Japan seems to be... Jul 15 2006, 07:35 PM![]() ![]() |
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