History Of Homosexuality In China Options

[Cuirassier]

Somebody mentioned about homosexuality in Chinese history.

Here I found an article.

History of Homosexuality 

Formal historical data provided by ancient records dealing with male homosexuality in China can be dated back to the Shang Dynasty (c. 16th century - 11th century BC), according to Li Yinhe in her book History of Chinese Homosexuality.

The term "Luan Feng" was used to describe homosexuality in the "Shang Dynasty Records". Interestingly, there are no record of lesbianism in Chinese history.


Historical traces of male homosexuality persist through dynasty to dynasty from ancient times and never disappear. It was in full swing during the Spring and Autumn and the Warring Periods, at which time Mi Zixia, favorite of the Monarch Wei, and Long Yang, favored by Monarch Wei, were the two best-known figures.


The greatest influences and achievements back then, however, belonged to the famous poet Qu Yuan. It is said that his love for the monarch Chu can be felt in most of his works, for instance his "Lisao" and "Longing for Beauty".


Prevailing among emperors


Li claimed that during the powerful Han Dynasty (206 BC - 220 AD) the homosexual activities of emperors and ministers were frequently preserved in the historical records. According to the "Historical Record" and "Han Dynasty Records", almost all emperors of the Western Han Dynasty had lovers of their same sex.


There was a much-told story about Emperor Ai, whose name was Liu Xin, and who reigned from 6 BC to 2 BC. Unwilling to awaken his male lover Dong Xian, who had fallen asleep on his robes, Liu cut off his sleeves instead.


After the Han Dynasty, the general attitude was tolerant, so long as homosexuals fulfilled their filial duties by getting married and continuing the family line.


Remarkably, a calm and dispassionate attitude to the homosexual phenomenon was always prevalent in ancient China. There was neither eulogy, nor criticism. It seemed to do no harm in maintaining traditional family ethics.


Male prostitution


The years 1573-1620 marked the most flourishing period of the Ming Dynasty (1368 - 1644). With great developments in industry and trade, luxurious life-styles also proliferated, according to Li's book.


Prostitution was a common practice at that time, due to the moral concept which advocated the acceptance of natural sexual needs, an approach promoted by the neo-Confucian philosopher Wang Yangming.


Male prostitutes (gigolos) were widely available to meet their clients' specific requirements.


Confucianism was canonized during the Qing Dynasty (1644-1911), with emphasis put on strict obedience to the social order. That is to say, both wife and husband should always remember their correct relationship, but homosexuals went directly against such rules.


Restrictive decree


Then, in 1740, the first anti-homosexual decree in Chinese history was promulgated, defining voluntarily homosexual intercourse between adults as illegal. Though there were no records on the effectiveness of this decree, it was the first time homosexuality had been subject to legal proscription in China.


During the cultural revolution (1966 - 76), homosexuals faced their worst period of persecution in Chinese history. The government considered homosexuality to be a social disgrace or a form of mental illness.


The police regularly rounded up gays and lesbians. Since there was no law against homosexuality, gays and lesbians were charged with hooliganism or disturbing public order. Since that time homosexuality has remained in closet.


Acceptance and tolerance


With the replacement of the 1989 edict - which defined homosexuality as a "psychiatric disorder of sexuality" - by the new "Chinese Classification and Diagnostic Criteria of Mental Disorders", released this March by the Chinese Psychiatric Association, China took a step closer to WHO policies, with homosexuals also benefiting from a general loosening of social restrictions.


Shanghai is one of the major cities where gays and lesbians are able to live a more open lifestyle, with some musicians and artists being openly gay. Bars are popular places for gays to meet, with weekends as the best time.


(Shanghai Star October 4, 2002)

http://www.china.org.cn/english/2002/Oct/44940.htm

According to a book I read called 'The Khan's Great Continent' by J.D. Spence, it mentioned that one of a few European visitors went to China in the Ming Dynasty praised everything of China, but only found extreme disgusting on homosexuality.

[huaren]

disgusting

[Orchidstar]

After the Han Dynasty, the general attitude was tolerant, so long as homosexuals fulfilled their filial duties by getting married and continuing the family line.

Whoa, never heard of that. Interesting. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_neutral.gif)

[supernovasp]

disgusting

(IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/madgo.gif) (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/madgo.gif) People with their homophobia... Ergh you are disgusting and close-minded.

This post has been edited by supernovasp: May 22 2004, 08:16 PM

[JMAC]

disgusting

eewwwww!

[Hakka]

Sound topic.
Homosexuality is always rife in all ancient civilisations, look at the Japanese and the Greek civilisations.

[dalawapo]

(IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/madgo.gif)   (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/madgo.gif) People with their homophobia... Ergh you are disgusting and close-minded.

im downe!!! (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

This post has been edited by dalawapo: May 23 2004, 03:14 AM

[Nam Quoc Son Ha]

I'm very sick of homophobe like huaren (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/madgo.gif)

But anyway, someone said that Genghis Khan was gay. Is there any evidence to this claim?

[Bchung]

I'm very sick of homophobe like huaren (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/madgo.gif)

But anyway, someone said that Genghis Khan was gay. Is there any evidence to this claim?

ehhhhhhhh, i heard that he had alot of sex with women, not men...........

anyway, sad that China had developed this homophobia thing, discriminating homosexuals, when in the past our ancesstors can tolerate them.. Dont know why we can't now?

If i am correct its when the Priests enter china, and saw drawing of homosexual men doing it, that shock the priests, then the priest just add it on their list of reasons to call chinese the lowest race. (bastards).

eventual the western powers started entering, china was very much influenced by the west very much.

anyway kind of strange how homosexual can have kids, so are they ask to have sex with a women and get her pregeant? Or are they also required to have a wife? Well in the past chinese families have loads of kids, so i dont think it will be a problem that one turns out to be gay yeah? (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_neutral.gif)

[Nam Quoc Son Ha]

Humanity took one great step backward with the rise of religions, especially Christianity.

[Cuirassier]

Nearly all the gays would have their wives.
either because they have to establish a family as responsibility, as camouflage or mostly they were bisexual indeed.

[Nam Quoc Son Ha]

They had no choice but to get married in those days, otherwise they would have been outcasts of their society.

Even today, there are many cases of gay men getting married to please their family and friends and trying to deny their homosexuality. Later they would get a divorce because they've realised that they just couldn't put up with heterosexual marriage.

[dalawapo]

I'm very sick of homophobe like huaren  (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/madgo.gif)

But anyway, someone said that Genghis Khan was gay. Is there any evidence to this claim?

ehhhhhhhh, i heard that he had alot of sex with women, not men...........

anyway, sad that China had developed this homophobia thing, discriminating homosexuals, when in the past our ancesstors can tolerate them.. Dont know why we can't now?

If i am correct its when the Priests enter china, and saw drawing of homosexual men doing it, that shock the priests, then the priest just add it on their list of reasons to call chinese the lowest race. (bastards).

eventual the western powers started entering, china was very much influenced by the west very much.

anyway kind of strange how homosexual can have kids, so are they ask to have sex with a women and get her pregeant? Or are they also required to have a wife? Well in the past chinese families have loads of kids, so i dont think it will be a problem that one turns out to be gay yeah? (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_neutral.gif)

i have read and seen pictorials of mongols practicing beastiality with deer etc....

and i heard on the news one time that if you have hiv or those disease your banned from going back to china. and that some families are seperated that way, is it true for both these statements?

[IORI]

Kill the fagz

[Dachink]

ewwwww thats nasty (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_confused.gif)

[Hakka]

Kill the fagz

Na gays are a good thing for China.
Voluntery birtch control.

[cloudyski]

Somebody mentioned about homosexuality in Chinese history.

Here I found an article.

History of Homosexuality 

Formal historical data provided by ancient records dealing with male homosexuality in China can be dated back to the Shang Dynasty (c. 16th century - 11th century BC), according to Li Yinhe in her book History of Chinese Homosexuality.

The term "Luan Feng" was used to describe homosexuality in the "Shang Dynasty Records". Interestingly, there are no record of lesbianism in Chinese history.


Historical traces of male homosexuality persist through dynasty to dynasty from ancient times and never disappear. It was in full swing during the Spring and Autumn and the Warring Periods, at which time Mi Zixia, favorite of the Monarch Wei, and Long Yang, favored by Monarch Wei, were the two best-known figures.


The greatest influences and achievements back then, however, belonged to the famous poet Qu Yuan. It is said that his love for the monarch Chu can be felt in most of his works, for instance his "Lisao" and "Longing for Beauty".


Prevailing among emperors


Li claimed that during the powerful Han Dynasty (206 BC - 220 AD) the homosexual activities of emperors and ministers were frequently preserved in the historical records. According to the "Historical Record" and "Han Dynasty Records", almost all emperors of the Western Han Dynasty had lovers of their same sex.


There was a much-told story about Emperor Ai, whose name was Liu Xin, and who reigned from 6 BC to 2 BC. Unwilling to awaken his male lover Dong Xian, who had fallen asleep on his robes, Liu cut off his sleeves instead.


After the Han Dynasty, the general attitude was tolerant, so long as homosexuals fulfilled their filial duties by getting married and continuing the family line.


Remarkably, a calm and dispassionate attitude to the homosexual phenomenon was always prevalent in ancient China. There was neither eulogy, nor criticism. It seemed to do no harm in maintaining traditional family ethics.


Male prostitution


The years 1573-1620 marked the most flourishing period of the Ming Dynasty (1368 - 1644). With great developments in industry and trade, luxurious life-styles also proliferated, according to Li's book.


Prostitution was a common practice at that time, due to the moral concept which advocated the acceptance of natural sexual needs, an approach promoted by the neo-Confucian philosopher Wang Yangming.


Male prostitutes (gigolos) were widely available to meet their clients' specific requirements.


Confucianism was canonized during the Qing Dynasty (1644-1911), with emphasis put on strict obedience to the social order. That is to say, both wife and husband should always remember their correct relationship, but homosexuals went directly against such rules.


Restrictive decree


Then, in 1740, the first anti-homosexual decree in Chinese history was promulgated, defining voluntarily homosexual intercourse between adults as illegal. Though there were no records on the effectiveness of this decree, it was the first time homosexuality had been subject to legal proscription in China.


During the cultural revolution (1966 - 76), homosexuals faced their worst period of persecution in Chinese history. The government considered homosexuality to be a social disgrace or a form of mental illness.


The police regularly rounded up gays and lesbians. Since there was no law against homosexuality, gays and lesbians were charged with hooliganism or disturbing public order. Since that time homosexuality has remained in closet.


Acceptance and tolerance


With the replacement of the 1989 edict - which defined homosexuality as a "psychiatric disorder of sexuality" - by the new "Chinese Classification and Diagnostic Criteria of Mental Disorders", released this March by the Chinese Psychiatric Association, China took a step closer to WHO policies, with homosexuals also benefiting from a general loosening of social restrictions.


Shanghai is one of the major cities where gays and lesbians are able to live a more open lifestyle, with some musicians and artists being openly gay. Bars are popular places for gays to meet, with weekends as the best time.


(Shanghai Star October 4, 2002)

http://www.china.org.cn/english/2002/Oct/44940.htm

According to a book I read called 'The Khan's Great Continent' by J.D. Spence, it mentioned that one of a few European visitors went to China in the Ming Dynasty praised everything of China, but only found extreme disgusting on homosexuality.

well... every nationality has some background of it. The Greeks and Romans were big into homosexuality, and what would be considered today pedophila.

Emperors... maybe that kind of rich opulent life style, leads to gender confusion?

I dunno..

Some people I know who are gay.......
it seems like it is genetic though for them.

[fujisan_8]

Somebody mentioned about homosexuality in Chinese history.

Here I found an article.

History of Homosexuality 

Formal historical data provided by ancient records dealing with male homosexuality in China can be dated back to the Shang Dynasty (c. 16th century - 11th century BC), according to Li Yinhe in her book History of Chinese Homosexuality.

The term "Luan Feng" was used to describe homosexuality in the "Shang Dynasty Records". Interestingly, there are no record of lesbianism in Chinese history.


Historical traces of male homosexuality persist through dynasty to dynasty from ancient times and never disappear. It was in full swing during the Spring and Autumn and the Warring Periods, at which time Mi Zixia, favorite of the Monarch Wei, and Long Yang, favored by Monarch Wei, were the two best-known figures.


The greatest influences and achievements back then, however, belonged to the famous poet Qu Yuan. It is said that his love for the monarch Chu can be felt in most of his works, for instance his "Lisao" and "Longing for Beauty".


Prevailing among emperors


Li claimed that during the powerful Han Dynasty (206 BC - 220 AD) the homosexual activities of emperors and ministers were frequently preserved in the historical records. According to the "Historical Record" and "Han Dynasty Records", almost all emperors of the Western Han Dynasty had lovers of their same sex.


There was a much-told story about Emperor Ai, whose name was Liu Xin, and who reigned from 6 BC to 2 BC. Unwilling to awaken his male lover Dong Xian, who had fallen asleep on his robes, Liu cut off his sleeves instead.


After the Han Dynasty, the general attitude was tolerant, so long as homosexuals fulfilled their filial duties by getting married and continuing the family line.


Remarkably, a calm and dispassionate attitude to the homosexual phenomenon was always prevalent in ancient China. There was neither eulogy, nor criticism. It seemed to do no harm in maintaining traditional family ethics.


Male prostitution


The years 1573-1620 marked the most flourishing period of the Ming Dynasty (1368 - 1644). With great developments in industry and trade, luxurious life-styles also proliferated, according to Li's book.


Prostitution was a common practice at that time, due to the moral concept which advocated the acceptance of natural sexual needs, an approach promoted by the neo-Confucian philosopher Wang Yangming.


Male prostitutes (gigolos) were widely available to meet their clients' specific requirements.


Confucianism was canonized during the Qing Dynasty (1644-1911), with emphasis put on strict obedience to the social order. That is to say, both wife and husband should always remember their correct relationship, but homosexuals went directly against such rules.


Restrictive decree


Then, in 1740, the first anti-homosexual decree in Chinese history was promulgated, defining voluntarily homosexual intercourse between adults as illegal. Though there were no records on the effectiveness of this decree, it was the first time homosexuality had been subject to legal proscription in China.


During the cultural revolution (1966 - 76), homosexuals faced their worst period of persecution in Chinese history. The government considered homosexuality to be a social disgrace or a form of mental illness.


The police regularly rounded up gays and lesbians. Since there was no law against homosexuality, gays and lesbians were charged with hooliganism or disturbing public order. Since that time homosexuality has remained in closet.


Acceptance and tolerance


With the replacement of the 1989 edict - which defined homosexuality as a "psychiatric disorder of sexuality" - by the new "Chinese Classification and Diagnostic Criteria of Mental Disorders", released this March by the Chinese Psychiatric Association, China took a step closer to WHO policies, with homosexuals also benefiting from a general loosening of social restrictions.


Shanghai is one of the major cities where gays and lesbians are able to live a more open lifestyle, with some musicians and artists being openly gay. Bars are popular places for gays to meet, with weekends as the best time.


(Shanghai Star October 4, 2002)

http://www.china.org.cn/english/2002/Oct/44940.htm

According to a book I read called 'The Khan's Great Continent' by J.D. Spence, it mentioned that one of a few European visitors went to China in the Ming Dynasty praised everything of China, but only found extreme disgusting on homosexuality.

well... every nationality has some background of it. The Greeks and Romans were big into homosexuality, and what would be considered today pedophila.

Emperors... maybe that kind of rich opulent life style, leads to gender confusion?

I dunno..

Some people I know who are gay.......
it seems like it is genetic though for them.

Cloudyski is kinda cute but immature...

some of the stuff she posts...tsk tsk...

[Bchung]

is it just me, or do i always find that people who thinks that their race is superior always have a problem with homosexuals? (just an observation).

[Bchung]

i mean homosexuals can be good parents too you know.................i haven't read one report that says kids with homosexual parents will be gay because of the influence of their homosexual parents.

On the other hand i read one about a man being brought up by two men that have been hiding their homosexual idetity to the world, in america. That Kid now a man, have a wife and two kids, he didn't turn gay........