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USA and Vietnam gang up to destroy China
moviez
post Jul 20 2006, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(MiCC @ Jul 20 2006, 11:31 AM) [snapback]2070557[/snapback]

why are our asian brothers stickin it up to the white man? arent they smart enough to unite counter those white people?


Unfortunately Asian brothers love to be white man's lapdog.

Japan is a white-wanna-be nation.
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post Jul 20 2006, 10:54 AM
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Maybe because some people's idea of 'united Asia' is everyone flying the Chinese flag.

American foreign policy is dastardy true, but they normaly aren't interested in land anymore. Can't quite say the same for Chinese foreign policy, looking at Tibet and all that.
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post Jul 20 2006, 11:15 AM
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If China can have joint exercises with White Russia, I see no reason why Vietnam can't have joint exercises with White US.
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post Jul 20 2006, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(KJlost @ Jul 20 2006, 10:54 AM) [snapback]2070638[/snapback]

Maybe because some people's idea of 'united Asia' is everyone flying the Chinese flag.

American foreign policy is dastardy true, but they normaly aren't interested in land anymore. Can't quite say the same for Chinese foreign policy, looking at Tibet and all that.

icon_rolleyes.gif Tibet is a different issue which does delve into history. Nowhere in history has the US even had a hand in China.

Most of China's policy thing has to do with territories that they have a deep history with.
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post Jul 20 2006, 11:48 AM
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don't worry vietnam don't want to go to war .....
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post Jul 20 2006, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE(chynagongju @ Jul 20 2006, 06:44 PM) [snapback]2070820[/snapback]

icon_rolleyes.gif Tibet is a different issue which does delve into history. Nowhere in history has the US even had a hand in China.

Most of China's policy thing has to do with territories that they have a deep history with.

You mean like Vietnam and Korea? icon_wink.gif
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post Jul 20 2006, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(KJlost @ Jul 20 2006, 10:54 AM) [snapback]2070638[/snapback]

Maybe because some people's idea of 'united Asia' is everyone flying the Chinese flag.

American foreign policy is dastardy true, but they normaly aren't interested in land anymore. Can't quite say the same for Chinese foreign policy, looking at Tibet and all that.

China is only implementing policy that the United States implemented more than a century ago. If if weren't for the fact that the U.S. "took up the white man's burden" and "saved those savages," then you wouldn't even be living in this country. If the United States wants China to leave Tibet, a territory of China since the Yuan Dyansty in the 13th century, then perhaps all Americans of non-Native American descent should leave and go back to their respective homelands, wherever they may be. If the U.S. really wanted to do that, hell, I'll pack up and go back to China.
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post Jul 20 2006, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(Preydominator @ Jul 20 2006, 11:54 AM) [snapback]2070862[/snapback]

You mean like Vietnam and Korea? icon_wink.gif

Lol Kind of. Except with that, you see, they're not really even trying to "gain" territory there. icon_wink.gif

I was referring more to Taiwan. kiss.gif
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post Jul 20 2006, 02:57 PM
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I am not sure if Vietnam and US are ganing up but I don't quite understand why countries like Vietnam and South Korea have so much hatred towards China? They keep name calling China as a land graber. I think you people should get your fact straight. Did China even get one inch of land from Korean War or Sino-Viet War? No. China does not even station one single soldier in your country. I honestly don't understand the mentality of some vietnamese and south koreans. How many of your fellow countrymen have been killed by Americans for wahtever reasons? More than several millions!! How many of your countrymen have been killed by Chinese? Not many. Hey. if you think its your honor to be killed by whites like ants, more power to you.





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post Jul 20 2006, 03:29 PM
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China's big and scary. Suspicions are pretty much unavoidable. In the least, everyone can be assured that nobody's stupid enough to actually start a shooting war in the region, barring an occasional fubar in the spratleys. Territorial ambitions are a tired and defunct motivation for going to war. The last thing the CCP wants or needs is a (another?) hostile foreign population to keep under military occupation.

And Korea was never incorporated into China in the same sense that other parts of the country such as Tibet and Xinjiang are. At most, there was a client state relationship, not unlike what currently occurs between the US and SK and Japan.
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post Jul 20 2006, 03:40 PM
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How USA (CIA) Manufactures Tibet Propaganda
http://member.muzi.com/home/?m=yugaung&l=english
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post Jul 20 2006, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(Byron @ Jul 20 2006, 12:15 PM) [snapback]2070703[/snapback]

If China can have joint exercises with White Russia, I see no reason why Vietnam can't have joint exercises with White US.


China joint exercise with Russia to deter USA from attacking them. A few years ago , USA said that she would launch a pre-emptive attack on seven countries China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Syria, Libya and Iraq.

Did China say that she would attack Vietnam ? So why does Vietnam need to gang up with USA to contain China ?
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post Jul 20 2006, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(moviez @ Jul 20 2006, 05:10 PM) [snapback]2071747[/snapback]

China joint exercise with Russia to deter USA from attacking them. A few years ago , USA said that she would launch a pre-emptive attack on seven countries China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Syria, Libya and Iraq.

Did China say that she would attack Vietnam ? So why does Vietnam need to gang up with USA to contain China ?

So it would be better that Vietnam's only alliance would be China alone? If you put yourself into Vietnam's position, what WOULD you do? Would you ally wholeheartedly on one side or trying to balance both nations out (which Vietnam is doing)?
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post Jul 20 2006, 04:20 PM
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Somehow, I doubt the statement made about preemptive strikes on China is true, or at least that it was uttered in public. The fact that Russia was included in this list hurts its credibility further.
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post Jul 20 2006, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(epicanthics @ Jul 20 2006, 05:20 PM) [snapback]2071777[/snapback]

Somehow, I doubt the statement made about preemptive strikes on China is true, or at least that it was uttered in public. The fact that Russia was included in this list hurts its credibility further.


The USA did make such a statement on the pre-emptive strike on those 7 countries a few years ago.

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So it would be better that Vietnam's only alliance would be China alone? If you put yourself into Vietnam's position, what WOULD you do? Would you ally wholeheartedly on one side or trying to balance both nations out (which Vietnam is doing)?


Vietnam should stay away from both China and USA. Anyways , Vietnam is enjoying a trade surplus with China in the billions of dollars.
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post Jul 20 2006, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(moviez @ Jul 20 2006, 05:26 PM) [snapback]2071786[/snapback]

The USA did make such a statement on the pre-emptive strike on those 7 countries a few years ago.
Vietnam should stay away from both China and USA. Anyways , Vietnam is enjoying a trade surplus with China in the billions of dollars.

How CAN Vietnam stay away from both China and USA if it wants to do business with them. How do you stay away from countrie' diplomacy in this time? You're being unrealistic.
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post Jul 20 2006, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(Chinese DesertFox @ Jul 20 2006, 01:21 PM) [snapback]2070978[/snapback]

China is only implementing policy that the United States implemented more than a century ago. If if weren't for the fact that the U.S. "took up the white man's burden" and "saved those savages," then you wouldn't even be living in this country. If the United States wants China to leave Tibet, a territory of China since the Yuan Dyansty in the 13th century, then perhaps all Americans of non-Native American descent should leave and go back to their respective homelands, wherever they may be. If the U.S. really wanted to do that, hell, I'll pack up and go back to China.


And Japan was only doing what other imperial powes were doing when they attacked everyone around them as well.

We can point fingers all day, but what we do know is that until very recently, China has been capable of forcefully taking actions and territories should the need arise. Tibet may have been old Chinese territory, but it honestly wasn't when the PLA moved in, was it? Taiwan isn't under PRC control, yet should it pronounce independence, PLA will be going to war with it, wouldn't they?

Potentials and actions dedictate that neighboring states be wary of China and her intentions.
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post Jul 20 2006, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(supernovasp @ Jul 20 2006, 05:33 PM) [snapback]2071810[/snapback]

How CAN Vietnam stay away from both China and USA if it wants to do business with them. How do you stay away from countrie' diplomacy in this time? You're being unrealistic.


I meant stay away from both of them (not economically).

Vietnam should say NO to USA to form gangs to hurt China. Also Vietnam shouldn't join forces with China to harm USA either.
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post Jul 20 2006, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(KJlost @ Jul 20 2006, 04:42 PM) [snapback]2071836[/snapback]

And Japan was only doing what other imperial powes were doing when they attacked everyone around them as well.

We can point fingers all day, but what we do know is that until very recently, China has been capable of forcefully taking actions and territories should the need arise. Tibet may have been old Chinese territory, but it honestly wasn't when the PLA moved in, was it? Taiwan isn't under PRC control, yet should it pronounce independence, PLA will be going to war with it, wouldn't they?

Potentials and actions dedictate that neighboring states be wary of China and her intentions.



Don't just spell BS. Since when did China take territories from her neighbors in the past few hundred years? Tibet has been part of China's terroitory since Ming Dynasty. That's several hundred years ago. As for Taiwan indep, do more reading before you open your mouth. Taiwan might not want to reunify with China right now, but it does not mean they want to decalre independence either. My mom was from Taiwan, I bet I know more about Taiwan than you do.

Potential and actions? Are you a korean? I wonder why you are not piss about American action of killing your fellow countrymen in millions back in the Korean war. It was USA and Soviet who divides your country into two. Not China. I don't think a rational debate can change your POV about China, although China was not the one who killed your people in millions.






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post Jul 20 2006, 05:55 PM
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Go fu-k yourself liberal communist.
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