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The Koteka Penis Sheath, Traditional "Clothing" from Indonesia
purnomor
post May 25 2004, 04:50 AM
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Men from the Highlands area of Papua province wearing their traditional penis sheaths, called "koteka"

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Koteka is made from hollowed gourd plants fired for firmness with strings to tie over the hip. Koteka is used by the Dani tribesmen who live in the mountainous Baliem Valley, the Highlands of West Papua province.

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post Jun 1 2004, 04:50 PM
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The question of the day is, do they take it off when they piss, or do they use it to better direct the flow? (IMG:http://www.boomspeed.com/triste/OO.gif)
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post Jun 17 2004, 01:03 AM
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YES I REMEMBER THIS, I WATCH ALOT OF DOCUMETNARIES ABOUT PAPUA NUEW GUIENA AND THEIR PENIS SHEEATH ATTIRE, BUT THIS IS THE WEAR OF IRIAN JAYA NOT NOT THE MALAY TARDITIOANL WEAR, THIS IS THE WEAR OF MELANESIAN PEOPLE.
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post Jun 17 2004, 06:47 AM
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QUOTE (dalawapo @ Jun 17 2004, 02:03 AM)
YES I REMEMBER THIS, I WATCH ALOT OF DOCUMETNARIES ABOUT PAPUA NUEW GUIENA AND THEIR PENIS SHEEATH ATTIRE, BUT THIS IS THE WEAR OF IRIAN JAYA NOT NOT THE MALAY TARDITIOANL WEAR, THIS IS THE WEAR OF MELANESIAN PEOPLE.

The penis sheath don't exist in Papua New Guinea. It only exists amongst the Dani people in Indonesian West Papua.. I think the docus you watch is about Papuans in Indonesia, dalawapo..

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post Jun 17 2004, 02:21 PM
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ok didnt i say the documentary was about irian jaya,. the part of new guiena island that the indonesians own? And anyways, the people of irian jaya are melanesian people, it just so happen indoneisans, who are ethnically malayan, took over the island.
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post Jun 17 2004, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE (dalawapo @ Jun 17 2004, 03:21 PM)
ok didnt i say the documentary was about irian jaya,. the part of new guiena island that the indonesians own? And anyways, the people of irian jaya are melanesian people, it just so happen indoneisans, who are ethnically malayan, took over the island.

Just because they're Melanesians, doesn't mean that they're not Indonesians. Some important Papuans in Indonesia:

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Vice Admiral (Rt) Freddy Numberi (Indonesian ambassador to Italy)

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Jacobus "Jaap" Solossa (Governor of Papua province)

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Dr John Djopari (Indonesian ambassador to Papua New Guinea)

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Lieutenant-General (Rt) Abraham Octavianus Atururi (West Irian Jaya governor)

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Thobias Solossa (Papua provincial spokesman)

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Dr Johannes Gluba Gleze (Merauke district chief)

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Manuel Kaisiepo (State Minister for the Acceleration of Deevelopment in East Indonesia)

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Ehud Eduard "Edo" Kondologit (popular artist/singer in Jakarta)
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post Jun 17 2004, 07:45 PM
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post Jun 17 2004, 08:23 PM
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post Jun 18 2004, 08:15 AM
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QUOTE (dalawapo @ Jun 17 2004, 09:23 PM)
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Just because they're Melanesians, doesn't mean that they're not Indonesians. Some important Papuans in Indonesia:


first of all purnomor, INDONESIA IS A NATIONALITY..... INSIDE THE NATION ARE MANY DIFFERENT ETHNIC GROUPS, MAINLY MALAYS AND MELANESIANS..... FOR YOU TO DENY THEIR ETHNIC IDENTITY AS A MELANESIAN PEOPLE IS GENOCIDE IN AN ATTEMPT TO FORM SOME FALSE RACE CALLED INDONESIA OR TO CONTROL THE LAND OR WHATEVER....

ITS LIKE CHINA. CHINESE IS A NATIONALITY, INSIDE THE NATION ARE MANY DIFFERENT ETHNIC GROUPS....

Dalawapo
When did I ever deny their ethnicity as Melanesians? I am emphasising that despite they being of different race, does not mean they are not Indonesians. Indonesia is a multi-racial and multi-cultural country. Nobody in Indonesia ever seeks to do "genocide" to deny them their Melanesian culture or whatever.. As proof that Papuans have full and equal status as Indonesians, I presented the examples of important Papuans in Indonesia in above post..
What's the dig on your Melanesian-Austronesian obsession anyways? (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile.gif)

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post Jun 18 2004, 03:33 PM
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post Jun 21 2004, 02:49 PM
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Images from three-day culture festival for peace, Jayapura, West Papua province on June 18 2004
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post Aug 6 2004, 01:28 AM
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Another exotic tradition of Dani tribesmen of West Papua province is their tradition of preserving their dead ancestors for exhibition in a special "holy hut" (honai), usually erected in the middle of the village.

The way the do this is by treating the corpse with special spice ingredients, smoked it, then put the charred but preserved corpse in a squatting position inside the holy hut. This way, a corpse may survive for up to 400 years. Only very revered traditional chiefs have the distinction of being smoked after they die.
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post Dec 8 2004, 03:29 PM
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Boaz Solossa, striker in Indonesian national soccer team from West Papua province. He scored two goals for Indonesia in Tiger Cup match against Laos, which Indonesia won 6-0

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Septinus George Saa, 17-year-old Indonesian student from West Papua, who won gold medal in First Step to Nobel Prize in Physics competition in Poland. George Saa discover his own formulae to calculate the resistance in an infinite triangle and hexagonical lattice networks of identical resistor. He is now studying Physics in Pelita Harapan University in Jakarta with Indonesian government scholarship under the tuition of famous physicist Prof Yohannes Surya
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post Dec 8 2004, 09:20 PM
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Do people still wear these kotekas today?
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post Dec 9 2004, 02:03 AM
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QUOTE (GoldenBoy @ Dec 8 2004, 10:20 PM)
Do people still wear these kotekas today?
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Yes they do and it causes a lot of infections for them and since it does not always get treated it often gets way out of control, extremely painful and dangerous ! But again, yes the still wear them today.

I stopped wearing mine cause I had trouble with the zipper and I kept poking myself in the eye all the time...

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QUOTE (Linglung @ Dec 9 2004, 03:03 AM)
QUOTE (GoldenBoy @ Dec 8 2004, 10:20 PM)
Do people still wear these kotekas today?
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Yes they do and it causes a lot of infections for them and since it does not always get treated it often gets way out of control, extremely painful and dangerous ! But again, yes the still wear them today.

I stopped wearing mine cause I had trouble with the zipper and I kept poking myself in the eye all the time...
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(IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/eek.gif) are you serious ?
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post Dec 9 2004, 08:40 AM
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he must be kidding...(IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile.gif) (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Dec 9 2004, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE (purnomor @ May 25 2004, 06:50 AM)

Fashionable, I better get one of those! (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Dec 9 2004, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE (udin_aja @ Dec 9 2004, 09:40 AM)


ha ha ha yes the last part I was most difinatly kidding but the part about them still wearing them and the serious infections that they often give is sertainly no joke !

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scary ............

Ari Sihasale from Papua too, right????
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