Chinese Temples In Indonesia, all pictures from www.kelenteng.com Options

[purnomor]

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Tek Hay Kiong Temple, Tegal - Central Java

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Po An Thian Temple, Pekalogan - Central Java

[purnomor]

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Jin De Yuan Temple, Petak Sembilan - Jakarta

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Dong Yue Guan (Vihara Gunung Timur), Medan - North Sumatera

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Fu Xing Gong Temple, Medan - North Sumatera

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Zhen Jun Miao Temple, Medan - North Sumatera

[purnomor]

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Da Bo Gong Temple, Batam - Riau

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Boen Tek Bio Temple, Tangerang - Banten

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Sian Jin Ku Po, Karawang - West Java

[purnomor]

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Hok Tek Che Temple, Tanjungpandan - Bangka-Belitung

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Hiap Thian Kiong Temple, Karawang - West Java

[malaccan]

Thanks for sharing. Good to see Chinese culture being officially recognised again! (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[直隸總督]

I'm surprised they haven't been destroyed by angry Indonesian mobs.

[purnomor]

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Sam Po Kong Temple, Semarang - Central Java
In memorial of the great Chinese admiral Zheng He, who stayed in the area in the 15th century

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Liem clan Temple, Semarang - Central Java

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Hok Tek Bio Temple, Solo - Central Java

[jae2theb]

Yay for the Chinese! sorta....What's the big deal? Chinese temples are found everywhere around the world. And how dare you make such a snide remark against the Indonesian pribumis. They're not one big blood-thirsty mob out to get you Chinese. Get real. What happened in the riots was a result of political manipulation of the masses by the Indonesian military supported by a faction of the Indonesian government still loyal to Soeharto. It's not as if the Indonesian people are intrinsically determined to hurt the Chinese just because Indonesian people are genetically programmed to be anti-Chinese. Don't make the riots a racial issue. YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE!

[Muzharen]

Yay for the Chinese! sorta....What's the big deal? Chinese temples are found everywhere around the world. And how dare you make such a snide remark against the Indonesian pribumis. They're not one big blood-thirsty mob out to get you Chinese. Get real. What happened in the riots was a result of political manipulation of the masses by the Indonesian military supported by a faction of the Indonesian government still loyal to Soeharto. It's not as if the Indonesian people are intrinsically determined to hurt the Chinese just because Indonesian people are genetically programmed to be anti-Chinese. Don't make the riots a racial issue. YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE!

From the stories I've heard and pictures I've seen, it's difficult to have a positive image of Inodnesians. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/sure.gif)

But I'm sure there are just as many good-hearted Indonesians as there are those who burn down Chinese businesses and gang rape Chinese women.

[YManchun]

Yay for the Chinese! sorta....What's the big deal? Chinese temples are found everywhere around the world. And how dare you make such a snide remark against the Indonesian pribumis. They're not one big blood-thirsty mob out to get you Chinese. Get real. What happened in the riots was a result of political manipulation of the masses by the Indonesian military supported by a faction of the Indonesian government still loyal to Soeharto. It's not as if the Indonesian people are intrinsically determined to hurt the Chinese just because Indonesian people are genetically programmed to be anti-Chinese. Don't make the riots a racial issue. YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE!

Wow I haven't seen you in a while. Welcome back. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/icon_smile.gif)

[xiaowind]

I'm surprised they haven't been destroyed by angry Indonesian mobs.

I've seen some pictures of the riots and feel that those Indonesian were really terrorists. I wonder why there are still so many Chinese staying there, had they adapted themselves to the life companied with insecurity and scare?

[purnomor]

I've seen some pictures of the riots and feel that those Indonesian were really terrorists. I wonder why there are still so many Chinese staying there, had they adapted themselves to the life companied with insecurity and scare?

As jae2theb said, you don't have a clue. I'm Chinese-Indonesian living in Jakarta and I never feel unsafe at all due to my ethnicity. Chinese in Jakarta can go anywhere they want and do whatever business as they please. For example, I live in a neighborhood which is around 90% native, we never have any problems at all even during the riots of 1998. All my mother's siblings are married to natives for years and their ethnicity were never an issue. As a Chinese, never at all did I ever feel personally discriminated against by anyone throughout my 18-year life in this country. During riots of 1998, my native neighbors formed a self-defence group to protect us the Chinese residents. As for security, Jakarta is very much as safe as many western cities. You may check the Interpol website for confirmation.

[Muzharen]

I've seen some pictures of the riots and feel that those Indonesian were really terrorists. I wonder why there are still so many Chinese staying there, had they adapted themselves to the life companied with insecurity and scare?

As jae2theb said, you don't have a clue. I'm Chinese-Indonesian living in Jakarta and I never feel unsafe at all due to my ethnicity. Chinese in Jakarta can go anywhere they want and do whatever business as they please. For example, I live in a neighborhood which is around 90% native, we never have any problems at all even during the riots of 1998. All my mother's siblings are married to natives for years and their ethnicity were never an issue. As a Chinese, never at all did I ever feel personally discriminated against by anyone throughout my 18-year life in this country. During riots of 1998, my native neighbors formed a self-defence group to protect us the Chinese residents. As for security, Jakarta is very much as safe as many western cities. You may check the Interpol website for confirmation.

You have to realize, to us who don't live in Indonesia or have never been to Indonesia, it's these gruesome stories and pictures of Chinese children being murdered and Chinese women being raped versus your little stories. (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/sure.gif)

[xiaowind]

I've seen some pictures of the riots and feel that those Indonesian were really terrorists. I wonder why there are still so many Chinese staying there, had they adapted themselves to the life companied with insecurity and scare?

As jae2theb said, you don't have a clue. I'm Chinese-Indonesian living in Jakarta and I never feel unsafe at all due to my ethnicity. Chinese in Jakarta can go anywhere they want and do whatever business as they please. For example, I live in a neighborhood which is around 90% native, we never have any problems at all even during the riots of 1998. All my mother's siblings are married to natives for years and their ethnicity were never an issue. As a Chinese, never at all did I ever feel personally discriminated against by anyone throughout my 18-year life in this country. During riots of 1998, my native neighbors formed a self-defence group to protect us the Chinese residents. As for security, Jakarta is very much as safe as many western cities. You may check the Interpol website for confirmation.

You've said that you are half Indonesian and your mother's siblings are married to natives, maybe you and your family are safe thanks to your Indonesian part of ethnicity. But are the Chinese migrations, travellers or business man, all the pure blood Chinese, so luck as you? I seriously doubt about that because i've read too much.

[purnomor]

You've said that you are half Indonesian and your mother's siblings are married to natives, maybe you and your family are safe thanks to your Indonesian part of ethnicity. But are the Chinese migrations, travellers or business man, all the pure blood Chinese, so luck as you? I seriously doubt about that because i've read too much.

My mum and dad are both Chinese and in Australia some ppl thought I looked like Japanese (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/sure.gif)

My point is, not a single Chinese living in my neighborhood got touched by the rioters, since the self-defence group protected every house regardless of the ethnicity of their owners. The riots of 1998 is a disaster for all Indonesians, remember much more natives died than Chinese and many native-owned businesses were also destroyed. The riot got more to do with fall of Suharto than racial animosity, as I've written in another thread, Chinese in Indonesia. There has never been a single anti-Chinese disturbance ever since the fall of Suharto for reasons I've written in therewith thread.

If you're interested about real race riots, you can study the Los Angeles Rodney King riots in which poor blacks robbed and killed Korean-Americans for two weeks, or the frequent anti-Chinese riots in California and Australia in 19th and early 20th century.

Indonesia is as safe for Chinese businessmen and tourists as it is for anyone else. My father just hosted a meeting of 200 Chinese pharmacists in Jakarta last week, while 131,624 Chinese tourists visited Indonesia in 2003 (see news link).

Remember there are ten million ethnic Chinese living in Indonesia, many have been there for centuries. It's the biggest overseas Chinese community in the world, bigger and much older than Malaysia or Singapore. If Chinese are persecuted or live their daily life in fear, why Chinese New Year is a major celebration (see People's Daily article) and there are more than one hundred Chinese temples in Jakarta alone.(see Indonesia Dao website) How come Indonesia has its own indigenous Daoist god Ze Hai Zhen Ren (see link)? How come Chinese cults like Falun Dafa gained many indigenous Indonesian followers (Falun Dafa Indonesia)?

Please, don't be so naive as to make your judgements based on some sensationalistic exagerrated "news" stories that are poorly researched. Or some site you found on the internet, as anybody can write anything on the internet. There are too much emotion than reality in relation with outsiders' view of Chinese-Indonesian problem. Bad information, always led to bad decisions.

[Muzharen]

purnomor, while your story is touching, you must keep in mind that for every story like yours, there are at least 10 stories which describe how Indonesians brutually murdered Chinese men and children while raped Chinese women.

[purnomor]

purnomor, while your story is touching, you must keep in mind that for every story like yours, there are at least 10 stories which describe how Indonesians brutually murdered Chinese men and children while raped Chinese women

What stories? Indonesians killing and raping Chinese? (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/confused.gif) What a sick joke! That's just plain rubbish. Why don't you learn the facts rather than reading too much fantasy fiction.

[Muzharen]

What stories? Indonesians killing and raping Chinese? (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/confused.gif) What a sick joke! That's just plain rubbish. Why don't you learn the facts rather than reading too much fantasy fiction.

"Sick joke"? Try telling the victims that it's a "sick joke". (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/sure.gif)

[purnomor]

That's a sick joke because other than in 1998, there has never been Chinese people being killed or raped by natives.. Making out fake accounts of women and children being raped.. I think that's a sick joke..

[Muzharen]

That's a sick joke because other than in 1998, there has never been Chinese people being killed or raped by natives.. Making out fake accounts of women and children being raped.. I think that's a sick joke..

Oh so I guess those Chinese who got killed and/or raped in 1998 don't count? (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/sure.gif)

The surviving victims somehow forget their tragic experienment after 1998? How about those who committed these barbaric crimes? Did they ALL get punished as they should?

This post has been edited by Muzharen: May 30 2004, 07:05 PM