Falun Gong, by a practitioner |
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Falun Gong, by a practitioner |
Aug 30 2006, 02:09 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 30-August 06 |
Dear all,
my name is Guus and I live in Holland. I practice Falun Gong (Falun Dafa). I saw some articles about Falun Gong on this forum, with negative reactions. Maybe we should go back to 1992 where it al started? In 1992 mr. Li Hongzhi shows Falun Gong to the Chinese public. Falun Gong is a Qigong-practice with 5 exercises (including meditation) to energize and purify the body. Next to that, a practitioner follows Truth, Compassion and Tolerance. Falun Gong was very populair in China before 1999. Many people where practicin it, even people from the government. It realy gives people good health, (like me: since I practice Falun Gong I am never sick anymore) and learns people to be a good person. But in 1999 the CCP decided to persecute Falun Gong. It's big propaganda-machine started to produce lies about mr. Li Hongzhi, Falun Gong, and the practitioners. Many ours on TV are spended to blame Falun Gong, and creatin lies to give Falun Gong a bad image. Like the burn-incident... This is also a lie of the CCP. Why should we burn ourselves? Falun Gong forbid to murder, including suicide, or to hurt somebody. Or the lies that we can't take medicine... I readed all the books and articles of mr. Li Hongzhi, and in not a single one he tells you that you can't take medicine. Why started the CCP to persecute people that want to be friendly and get a better health? Maybe it's because many people where practicin. In China their are more than 100 million practitioners. That's more than the members of the CCP. Maybe they were affraid of loosing influence? Falun Gong hasn't political motives, so what is it to be affraid of? Rumours tells you that Jiang Zemin was very jealous because Falun Gong was so populair, and then he started the persecution. Because I live outside of China I get information about the CCP that Chinese people will never be able to hear of, because the CCP is controling the media. More than 12 million Chinese people have already quit the CCP. A article that had an huge impact on Chinese people all over the world is 'the nine commentaries on the CCP'. For the first time people are able to read the truth behind the CCP, and what they realy are. And how they have killed millions of people and are fooling the Chinese people with their lies. You can read the article on: http://ninecommentaries.com/ On this website you can also sign a declaration, so that you quit the CCP. You don't have you use your real name. You can also send me your name, and I will do it for you. If you are not sure that Falun Gong is good or bad, than just seek for yourselve. Read Zhuan Falun or other 'real' articles of Falun Gong, you can find them at: www.falundafa.org After reading them you will see that Falun Gong isn't a cult or something. Just friendly people that want to be good. Best regards, Guus |
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Aug 30 2006, 02:15 PM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,274 Joined: 16-September 05 From: Hong Kong |
Why is there such a big urge from Falun Gong members to preach your ways to us? Posting something from Epoch Times isn't helping much either.
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Aug 30 2006, 03:25 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 30-August 06 |
QUOTE(BigBenChow @ Aug 30 2006, 02:15 PM) [snapback]2237525[/snapback] Why is there such a big urge from Falun Gong members to preach your ways to us? Posting something from Epoch Times isn't helping much either. Because many Chinese people have a wrong image of Falun Gong. On this website you can find more info about the organharvesting that is happening with Falun Gong-practitioners in China today: http://www.david-kilgour.com/ Guus |
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Aug 30 2006, 03:33 PM
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AF Addict Group: Members Posts: 804 Joined: 27-January 06 |
there's a falun gong protest thing gong on in Vancouver. non stop.
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Aug 30 2006, 04:10 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,199 Joined: 14-November 05 |
Falun Gong is a cult or not. You decide it for yourself. The following is the link to a group of articles gathered about Falun Gong from the independent source.
http://www.rickross.com/groups/falun.html |
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Aug 30 2006, 04:11 PM
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AF Legend Group: Members Posts: 38,231 Joined: 15-June 05 From: TEAM RAMROD |
I'd rather wipe it out.
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Aug 30 2006, 04:18 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,347 Joined: 17-February 05 |
go practice your FLG and stop preaching. no one else cares.
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Aug 30 2006, 06:14 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 2,317 Joined: 1-November 05 From: Liangshan Marsh |
hes like one of those annoying christians tryin to enforce their crappy religion on others and he lives in holland lol....(IMG:style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif)
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Aug 30 2006, 09:17 PM
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AF Fan Group: Members Posts: 57 Joined: 4-March 06 |
see what i don't understand about Falun Gong is the fact that they preach tolerance, yet they continue to protest. Maybe times have changed for me but i remember documentaries on buddhist monks in china who where persecuted but toleranced it all. They did not protest or ask for aid from outsiders. YET they are still here today, alive and well. THAT'S TOLERANCE.
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Aug 30 2006, 10:23 PM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,274 Joined: 16-September 05 From: Hong Kong |
I'm so sick of these flg preachers. They are making their image worse in my opinion.
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Aug 31 2006, 12:14 AM
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AF Fan Group: Members Posts: 97 Joined: 16-August 06 |
QUOTE(BigBenChow @ Aug 30 2006, 10:23 PM) [snapback]2239033[/snapback] I'm so sick of these flg preachers. They are making their image worse in my opinion. I'm so sick of ccp preachers, especially those who ran away from china and esacped to hong kong and now is telling everyone to go back to china. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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Aug 31 2006, 07:49 AM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,274 Joined: 16-September 05 From: Hong Kong |
QUOTE(hijk @ Aug 31 2006, 01:14 AM) [snapback]2239494[/snapback] I'm so sick of ccp preachers, especially those who ran away from china and esacped to hong kong and now is telling everyone to go back to china. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) How does that even make sense? How can I escape to HK when HK is a city if China.? How can I escape to HK when I was born there? Would you like to explain this brilliant statement you just made? This post has been edited by BigBenChow: Aug 31 2006, 07:50 AM |
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Aug 31 2006, 07:53 AM
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AF Supreme Group: Members Posts: 18,936 Joined: 2-December 04 |
QUOTE(BigBenChow @ Aug 31 2006, 02:49 PM) [snapback]2240516[/snapback] How does that even make sense? How can I escape to HK when HK is a city if China.? How can I escape to HK when I was born there? Would you like to explain this brilliant statement you just made? He can't. He's banned. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif) |
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Aug 31 2006, 08:13 AM
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AF Geek Group: Members Posts: 168 Joined: 1-January 06 |
I just want to say that I didn't know of Fa Lun Gong until my mum's best friend's husband started practicing it.
And about 3 weeks, he had weird imaginations like: if he practice Fa Lun Gong he can make an empty car refuel itself, or he needed to burn 3 five-dollar notes (Australian money) to ward off "evil spirits". He was completely insane after the fourth week. He has since stopped practicing it, and these days, rarely talk and look like a hermit. It could be just him, or it could be something wrong with this practice... I don't know, but all what I do know is (and see every time I go to the Chinese embassy in Australia) people practicing Fa Lun Gong standing outside the embassy meditating in protest... They look scary in my opinion, and insane... Unlike Yoga and Pilates which I think are a more mentally "healthier" option, Fa Lun Gong looks like something that will put me in a mental hospital. Unless you can proove otherwise? |
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Aug 31 2006, 09:53 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 30-August 06 |
QUOTE(LadyDragonfly @ Aug 31 2006, 08:13 AM) [snapback]2240583[/snapback] I just want to say that I didn't know of Fa Lun Gong until my mum's best friend's husband started practicing it. And about 3 weeks, he had weird imaginations like: if he practice Fa Lun Gong he can make an empty car refuel itself, or he needed to burn 3 five-dollar notes (Australian money) to ward off "evil spirits". He was completely insane after the fourth week. He has since stopped practicing it, and these days, rarely talk and look like a hermit. It could be just him, or it could be something wrong with this practice... I don't know, but all what I do know is (and see every time I go to the Chinese embassy in Australia) people practicing Fa Lun Gong standing outside the embassy meditating in protest... They look scary in my opinion, and insane... Unlike Yoga and Pilates which I think are a more mentally "healthier" option, Fa Lun Gong looks like something that will put me in a mental hospital. Unless you can proove otherwise? I think their is something wrong with your mum's friend... Like I said earlier, search for yourselves. On the website I have given to you ( www.falundafa.org ), you can read all the articles of Falun Gong. For example, the book "Zhuan Falun" is the most important book of all books and articles. Why don't you read it? Then you can see for yourselves if their is something weird in it, right? Maybe I can give an example of my own experience. Before I started to practice, I was a very agressive boy. Just a little thing could let me expolde, I realy had no patience at all. And their was just one thing that I cared about, and that was myself. In the year 2004 I stopped to practice Tai Chi. So I was looking for something else. On a dutch website I saw Falun Gong, I saw that the exercises were simple and it was for free. So I learned the 5 exercises and started reading the books "Zhuan Falun" and "Falun Gong". They helped me a lot. Since I practice Falun Gong, I am very relaxed and calm. I never get upset and I tread everybody with respect. I think of others first when I want to do something, and I never have any stress anymore. The status of my mind is always calm and I feel always happy. Falun Gong also improved my health. First I was always ill, but now I am never ill anymore. Guus |
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Aug 31 2006, 10:01 AM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,284 Joined: 30-July 06 From: Glass case of emotion |
Falun gong is banned in China because they preach about the power of prayer/meditation and says it cures diseases. It was one of their flyers I saw on. A little boy was sick and needed immediate medical attention and his parents left him outside to meditate and heal himself under the sun. He died from heat exhaustion and severe illness and his parents were ashamed of him because they said he didn't believe in the power of the prayer.
I'm actually a very reasonable person and give benefit of the doubt to anything, but if letting a child die outside is just wrong. |
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Aug 31 2006, 11:56 AM
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AF Addict Group: Members Posts: 816 Joined: 21-December 05 From: Qin |
QUOTE(Guus @ Aug 30 2006, 02:09 PM) [snapback]2237517[/snapback] Dear all, my name is Guus and I live in Holland. I practice Falun Gong (Falun Dafa). I saw some articles about Falun Gong on this forum, with negative reactions. Maybe we should go back to 1992 where it al started? In 1992 mr. Li Hongzhi shows Falun Gong to the Chinese public. Falun Gong is a Qigong-practice with 5 exercises (including meditation) to energize and purify the body. Next to that, a practitioner follows Truth, Compassion and Tolerance. Falun Gong was very populair in China before 1999. Many people where practicin it, even people from the government. It realy gives people good health, (like me: since I practice Falun Gong I am never sick anymore) and learns people to be a good person. But in 1999 the CCP decided to persecute Falun Gong. It's big propaganda-machine started to produce lies about mr. Li Hongzhi, Falun Gong, and the practitioners. Many ours on TV are spended to blame Falun Gong, and creatin lies to give Falun Gong a bad image. Like the burn-incident... This is also a lie of the CCP. Why should we burn ourselves? Falun Gong forbid to murder, including suicide, or to hurt somebody. Or the lies that we can't take medicine... I readed all the books and articles of mr. Li Hongzhi, and in not a single one he tells you that you can't take medicine. Why started the CCP to persecute people that want to be friendly and get a better health? Maybe it's because many people where practicin. In China their are more than 100 million practitioners. That's more than the members of the CCP. Maybe they were affraid of loosing influence? Falun Gong hasn't political motives, so what is it to be affraid of? Rumours tells you that Jiang Zemin was very jealous because Falun Gong was so populair, and then he started the persecution. Because I live outside of China I get information about the CCP that Chinese people will never be able to hear of, because the CCP is controling the media. More than 12 million Chinese people have already quit the CCP. A article that had an huge impact on Chinese people all over the world is 'the nine commentaries on the CCP'. For the first time people are able to read the truth behind the CCP, and what they realy are. And how they have killed millions of people and are fooling the Chinese people with their lies. You can read the article on: http://ninecommentaries.com/ On this website you can also sign a declaration, so that you quit the CCP. You don't have you use your real name. You can also send me your name, and I will do it for you. If you are not sure that Falun Gong is good or bad, than just seek for yourselve. Read Zhuan Falun or other 'real' articles of Falun Gong, you can find them at: www.falundafa.org After reading them you will see that Falun Gong isn't a cult or something. Just friendly people that want to be good. Best regards, Guus That's not what my aunt told me, she tried Falun Gong before. But since there was one time, when we caught a cold and had a fever, and the leader told her not to see doctor just kept practicing Falun Gong. After that, she quited. Of course, she did see a doctor and she was fine after a couple days. Modern Medication are thru tested hunderds of thousand times, and it is created thru scientific methods. I believe everybody understand what's scientific method, that is ---------- Obersvations -- Keep first hand records on those Observations(Not listen to anyother people's experiences) Create the theory Test the theory thru experiments. Obersavtions of those experiments, if those experiments prove that the theory is correct, then the theory is success. otherwise, it's failure. There are some Pseudo-science: 1: Believe in super-nature, when there are no qualify evidences show super-nature exist, we can't say it exist, however, we can't say it doesn't exist too. 2: Quantity can't replace Quality. Even tho there are millions people claim that they saw UFO, however, those claims are lack of qualify evidence, therefore they are trash. A big pile of trash is much bigger than a small pile of trash, but they are trash still. I have already read the books of Falun Gong, it assembles a lot of information from Buddism, combined with so called "sicentific explanation". However, not much example and evidences or proof are given in the text. Therefore, i will consider it as a religious, I won't consider it as sicence. As long as it tells people not to see doctor while they are sick, or It tells people that they won't get sick if they practice Falun Gong, I will call it EVIL Religious PERIOD ! |
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Aug 31 2006, 12:01 PM
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AF Pro Group: Banned Posts: 1,828 Joined: 3-April 06 |
QUOTE(W&N @ Aug 31 2006, 09:56 AM) [snapback]2241308[/snapback] That's not what my aunt told me, she tried Falun Gong before. But since there was one time, when we caught a cold and had a fever, and the leader told her not to see doctor just kept practicing Falun Gong. After that, she quited. Of course, she did see a doctor and she was fine after a couple days. Modern Medication are thru tested hunderds of thousand times, and it is created thru scientific methods. I believe everybody understand what's scientific method, that is ---------- Obersvations -- Keep first hand records on those Observations(Not listen to anyother people's experiences) Create the theory Test the theory thru experiments. Obersavtions of those experiments, if those experiments prove that the theory is correct, then the theory is success. otherwise, it's failure. There are some Pseudo-science: 1: Believe in super-nature, when there are no qualify evidences show super-nature exist, we can't say it exist, however, we can't say it doesn't exist too. 2: Quantity can't replace Quality. Even tho there are millions people claim that they saw UFO, however, those claims are lack of qualify evidence, therefore they are trash. A big pile of trash is much bigger than a small pile of trash, but they are trash still. I have already read the books of Falun Gong, it assembles a lot of information from Buddism, combined with so called "sicentific explanation". However, not much example and evidences or proof are given in the text. Therefore, i will consider it as a religious, I won't consider it as sicence. As long as it tells people not to see doctor while they are sick, or It tells people that they won't get sick if they practice Falun Gong, I will call it EVIL Religious PERIOD ! agreed. I read li hongzhi's book and it's b.s. he claims he can fly and heal people. what an @$$. he thinks he some sort of messianic figure. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumbsdown.gif) |
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Aug 31 2006, 12:02 PM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,274 Joined: 16-September 05 From: Hong Kong |
Its funny how the founder of Falun Gong lives in a nice loft in New York City with millions of dollars in his wallet. At least one person is benefiting from Falun Gong
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Aug 31 2006, 12:03 PM
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AF Legend Group: Members Posts: 38,231 Joined: 15-June 05 From: TEAM RAMROD |
Can he cure my colon cancer?
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