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[Emperor]

Actually in this list I don't see Vietnam or mainland South East Asia listed. So I guess everyone is a negrito except for mainland South East Asians and Koreans. LOL Just joking.

1. The Malaysian Negrito
2. The Philippine Negrito
3. The Shompen of Great Nicobar
4. The Moken of the Burma Coast
5. The Vedda of Sri Lanka
6. The Veddoid of Southern India
7. The Dravidians of India
8. The Naga of India
9. The Kubu of Sumatra and others
10. The Ayome of New Guinea and others
11. The Papuans of Papua-NewGuinea
12. The Melanesians of the Pacific
13. The Australians
14. The Tasmanians
15. The Khoisan of South Africa
16. The Pygmies of Central Africa
17. Negritos in Japan and China
18. Negritos in the Americas and "Luzia"

A few archaeological traces of populations with Negrito-Papuan- Austro-Melanesian affiliations have been found all over Indochina and Southern China. There are sites in Perak (Malaysia) and in Krabi (Southern Thailand) to give just two examples. No archaeological proof of Negritos has so far been found in Burma (Myanmar), which has not been investigated archaeologically at all well, but Burmese folk tales do seem to remember Negritos. They tell of short, dark-skinned, fuzzy-haired cannibal Negroes who lived on the mouth of the great rivers and on islands offshore.

The situation is much clearer in Vietnam where the oldest known human population has unquestionably been Negrito. Skulls identified as Negrito have been found along the coast of Vietnam. In Vietnam, the Negritos were replaced by (or perhaps developed into) people of Australoid and Melanesian type during the later Paleolithic Period.

http://www.stewartsynopsis.com/Communiques...the%20white.htm

[Byron]

Besides mainstream Vietnamese came from Southern China, the species who replaced the negritos in Vietnam back then are Montagnards,Khmers and other minorities that they took their land from.

This post has been edited by Byron: Jan 12 2008, 07:40 PM

[Emperor]

But that doesn't explain that there are negrito related species NOW in China,Japan, and the places listed above.

So you're saying there are still negrito-related species living in China?
Can you tell me which ones of the 52 ethnicities? (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/sure.gif)

[PervertBurger]

Can you tell me which ones of the 52 ethnicities?

Manchu Chinese Monkey Ethnicity (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif)

[Byron]

But that doesn't explain that there are negrito related species NOW in China,Japan, and the places listed above.

So you're saying there are still negrito-related species living in China?
Can you tell me which ones of the 52 ethnicities? (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/sure.gif)

If the article is right and the Negritos in Vietnam were extinct at the later Paleolithic period then that proves MAINSTREAM Vietnaemse never made contact with them, since Vietnamese didn't group with each other and didn't even arrive to Vietnam 2 million years ago.

We didn't even exist yet until the various tribes of China formed the Yue people who then eventually went down to the lands where the Negritos were already extinct millions of years already.

It does make sense where mostly in Vietnam due to the fact that the land connects, China,Cambodia,Laos and is the gate to South East Asia in the archipelogical.

Since Negritos are now found in those island countries they probably sailed from Vietnam which was used as the connection to these asian countries.

This post has been edited by Byron: Jan 23 2008, 02:25 PM

[Zhu_Rong_Ji]

Can you tell me which ones of the 52 ethnicities?

Manchu Chinese Monkey Ethnicity (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/embarassedlaugh.gif)

Quiet, you know not a thing about the Manchus.

This post has been edited by Zhu_Rong_Ji: Jun 25 2004, 05:28 PM

[Byron]

http://www.xenohistorian.faithweb.com/seasia/sea01.html

Here's a history of South East Asia.

First came the Negritos, then came the Malays.

Vietnamese and Thais were the last 2 ethnicities to move to South East Asia and in the case of Vietnam, Vietnamese people came from the Yue people but when the Chinese took their homeland in 334B.C many Viets fleed along the Red river and intermarried with other Southern Chinese people to form modern Vietnamese.

The Yue in China today are the ones that we left behind.

Vietnamese didn't even enter South East Asia or the lands that formed Vietnam until after 334 B.C well before the stone age era 2 million years ago when the Negritos went extinct in South East Asia during the stone age.

We didn't even exist yet.

This post has been edited by Byron: Jun 25 2004, 05:28 PM

[浪淘音]

But that doesn't explain that there are negrito related species NOW in China,Japan, and the places listed above.

So you're saying there are still negrito-related species living in China?
Can you tell me which ones of the 52 ethnicities? (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/sure.gif)

The dark ones. LOL

If the article is right and the Negritos in Vietnam were extinct at the later Paleolithic period then that proves MAINSTREAM Vietnaemse never made contact with them, since Vietnamese didn't group with each other and didn't even arrive to Vietnam 2 million years ago.

We didn't even exist yet until the various tribes of China formed the Yue people who then eventually went down to the lands where the Negritos were already extinct millions of years already.

It does make sense where mostly in Vietnam due to the fact that the land connects, China,Cambodia,Laos and is the gate to South East Asia in the archipelogical.

Since Negritos are now found in those island countries they probably sailed from Vietnam which was used as the connection to these asian countries.

you're kidding me, right? the Yue people are not the ancestors of modern day viets.

First Chinese contact of vietnamese people happened over 2000 years ago IN vietnam, at this time, the Yue kingdom still existed. Chinese travellers described your people already living there

your country is 越南, because it is south of the original Yue lands

[Byron]

But that doesn't explain that there are negrito related species NOW in China,Japan, and the places listed above.

So you're saying there are still negrito-related species living in China?
Can you tell me which ones of the 52 ethnicities? (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/sure.gif)

The dark ones. LOL

If the article is right and the Negritos in Vietnam were extinct at the later Paleolithic period then that proves MAINSTREAM Vietnaemse never made contact with them, since Vietnamese didn't group with each other and didn't even arrive to Vietnam 2 million years ago.

We didn't even exist yet until the various tribes of China formed the Yue people who then eventually went down to the lands where the Negritos were already extinct millions of years already.

It does make sense where mostly in Vietnam due to the fact that the land connects, China,Cambodia,Laos and is the gate to South East Asia in the archipelogical.

Since Negritos are now found in those island countries they probably sailed from Vietnam which was used as the connection to these asian countries.

you're kidding me, right? the Yue people are not the ancestors of modern day viets.

First Chinese contact of vietnamese people happened over 2000 years ago IN vietnam, at this time, the Yue kingdom still existed. Chinese travellers described your people already living there

your country is 越南, because it is south of the original Yue lands

You have a reliable source with proof? I've read many archelogical sites on Vietnam and most of them say the same exact thing.

You do know Vietnam a long time ago before we Kinh entered it, was inhabited by other people like Cham, Khmers,Montagnards so I'm sure they had contact with China back then.

This post has been edited by Byron: Jun 25 2004, 05:39 PM

[浪淘音]

there was already a civilization in Vietnam long before the yue kingdom was crushed with ancestral elements that vary from indonesia to malaysia.

the first Yue kingdom existed near present day Fujian and was annexed by Qin Shi Huangdi but the Yue people retained a certain degree of autonomy. After the fall of the Qin, Han Dynasty took over and reconquered Yue, so the second Yue kingdom formed in present day Guangdong. Emperor Han Wu Di conquered that kingdom AND the area south of it known as Yue Nan(Vietnam). Many of the people fled Nan Yue into present day vietnam where they mixed with original aboriginal populatiion of vietnam which had already existed during the times of the various Yue kingdoms

[Byron]

http://www.uglychinese.org/vietnamese.htm

This website has a history for almost every Chinese minority as well as Asians that are near China. Here's their history for Vietnaemse.

"Jing-zu is the majority ethnic group in today's Vietnam"

So I took the liberty of typing "Jing-zu" in Yahoo to see what these people look like.

http://www.paulnoll.com/China/Minorities/min-Jing.html

These 2 pictures of Jing-Zu women look uncanny similar to Vietnamese even Southern Vietnamese look like that.

[浪淘音]

like i said before, the final inhabitants of the Nan Yue fled to present day vietnam. but vietnam is not the continuation of this kingdom, not anymore than today's Italians are a continuation of the Roman Empire. and also like i said before, there was already a people living in the area known as present day northern vietnam. Han Wu Di conquered both Yue and...YUE NAN(south of yue)

Today's Chinese, Koreans and even Japanese are a continuation of their people, culture , country/empire

These 2 pictures of Jing-Zu women look uncanny similar to Vietnamese even Southern Vietnamese look like that

i agree, i think all southern aboriginal minorities look like your people anyway but that does not mean you are a direct cultural or genetic descendant of the Yue Kingdom. Vietnam=Yue Kingdom refugees+whoever else was a major group in Vietnam at the time

[Byron]

http://www.vwam.com/vets/vietnam.html

"Following them came the Viet or Yue, an ethnic group who emigrated from the coastal provinces of ancient China towards the 5th century B.C. Together with the other ethnic groups of the Each Viet (100 Viet Principalities) they began their Long southward march towards the Indochinese peninsula which continued for more than 15 centuries."

Of course Vietnam already has civiliaztions there before the Yue Kingdom was destroyed. It was inhabited by aboriginals called the Cham and the Khmer Krom who were defeated.

This post has been edited by Byron: Jan 23 2008, 02:24 PM

[Byron]

"i agree, i think all southern aboriginal minorities look like your people anyway but that does not mean you are a direct cultural or genetic descendant of the Yue Kingdom. Vietnam=Yue Kingdom refugees+whoever else was a major group in Vietnam at the time"

Yes that's what I've been trying to say the whole freaking time. That we have Yue ancestry. I didn't say we were 100% Yue, I just said we have Yue Ancestry but Yue is the most dominanted gene in our system.

The other groups in Northern Vietnam were the Miao or Hmong of Sapa and other groups which I'm too lazy to research right now.

This post has been edited by Byron: Jun 25 2004, 06:01 PM

[浪淘音]

when it gets right down to it

1. Mongoloid is an archaic term that describes all eastern Asia. Useless
2. Yue were an austro-tai like people that were an intermediate between Sinid/Mongolid of North Asia and the Austronesian/Australoid people of southeast asia
3. Vietnam is the result of the final Nan Yue REFUGEES(not kingdom) fleeing to the area SOUTH OF the original Yue grounds (Yuenan, vietnam) and blending with the austronesian/austro-tai/australoid people/culture already there.

if we can agree on this, this topic should close

[supernovasp]

http://www.chinese-forums.com/viewtopic.ph...der=asc&start=0

(IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
ca. 111 B.C. The Chinese emperor Wudi (r. 141–86 B.C.) conquers the southern kingdom of Nanyue, which includes present-day Guangzhou Province and parts of northern Vietnam.

This post has been edited by supernovasp: Jun 25 2004, 06:10 PM

[浪淘音]

oh yeah, a forum is a good place for info (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/sure.gif)

one of the idiots on that forum also claimed that Mandarin is the oldest Han Dialect

[supernovasp]

oh yeah, a forum is a good place for info (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/sure.gif)

one of the idiots on that forum also claimed that Mandarin is the oldest Han Dialect

If you read again, everybody there disagreed him (IMG:http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[Byron]

My original argument was that negritos and Vietnamese aren't decended recently.

This post has been edited by Byron: Jan 12 2008, 07:42 PM

[BatangDamo]

poor negritos, to this topic --> they are like a disease or something that nobody wants to be part of....