Majapahit Empire, The Golden Era of the Archipelago Options

[Majapahitans]

The Cast:

Barry Prima is Too Old! I saw him in Keluarga Cemara last time and he looks
Ade Rai can't act

Gajah Mada in this period (Bubat incident) WAS an old man.....
Jadi cukup cocok.
Ayo buka casting lagi.... siapa yah, mature but quite big or well built....
Emang Ade Rai nggak cocok..., Ga bisa acting, gue cuma iseng aja...

The Cast:

Princess Dyah Pitaloka Citraresmi => No! Not Dian Sastro is already too overrated udah males Feby Febiola or Bunga or Masayu Anastasia

Hayam Wuruk => Indra Brugman the Best ! Nico is Overated Vj Evan or Chistian Sugiono is good. Anjasmara NO WAY Bosen!

Gue tetep kekeuh, sama Dian Sastro ajah.....
Aktingnya juga pasti bagus......
Sebenernya yang cocok sih Dessy Ratnasari waktu muda.... (waktu jadi Olga itu lho), kalo sekarang ketuaan....

Febby...? bukan muka Sunda-Jawa tuh...., tetep kayak Menado atau Batak cantik.
Masayu...., bole lah, tapi dia bukan kaliber Dian....

Indra Brugman as Hayam Wuruk, actingnya dia emang bagus, tapi kok kenapa menurut gue kurang cocok yah....?
Sebenernya sih yang tampangnya Jawa banget yah si Anjas itu, tapi dia kan si idiot Cecep...!
Chistian Sugiono boleh lah.....,
But Hayam Wuruk must gave silent calm mysterious charisma, mukanya harus cakep, cool, tapi matanya tajam, agak sedih dan kesepian, kayak si Rangga di AADC. Emang sih jadinya terlalu bule....
Ayo masukan lagi..., siapa dong....?

This post has been edited by Majapahitans: Oct 20 2006, 10:29 AM

[haqine]

Kalo perlu kita bikin Majapahit the series, biar bisa tandingi Jang Geum, Jewel In The Palace

Kan ceritanya gak kalah ama Jang Geum

[purnomor]

Majapahitans, could you tell us about the victory of Raden Wijaya (founder of Majapahit) against the Mongol invasion ordered by Kublai Khan?

[furansizuka]

Indra Brugman as Hayam Wuruk, actingnya dia emang bagus, tapi kok kenapa menurut gue kurang cocok yah....?
Sebenernya sih yang tampangnya Jawa banget yah si Anjas itu, tapi dia kan si idiot Cecep...!
Chistian Sugiono boleh lah.....,
But Hayam Wuruk must gave silent calm mysterious charisma, mukanya harus cakep, cool, tapi matanya tajam, agak sedih dan kesepian, kayak si Rangga di AADC. Emang sih jadinya terlalu bule....
Ayo masukan lagi..., siapa dong....?

Gue stuju tuh sama mbak haqine: Fedi Nuril could be the candidate for Hayam Wuruk, or if not Fedi, we could ask Paundrakarna! he's quiet handsome, a true prince of Java

[Bhaskara]

I agreeee!!Dian Pramitha Sastrowardoyo should be Diah Pitaloka, alhough she's javanesee and not sundanesse.
Hayam Wuruk...how about Tora Sudiro?He's javanesse. Or that Tommy Tjokro guy from MetroTV, he has the genuine javanesse face.
Gajah Mada should be someone with big body, but not flabby!He should be strudy and looks strong. Hmm...I don't know who fits that description, but auditions should help.

But, why is the Princess name "Diah Pitaloka"?As far as I know, there's no actual record on her name. In fact, there's no actual record on the name of the King, the Queen or the Kingdom!

Another thing:Do you think this story is the reason why javanesse and sundanesse hate each other. I mean, it's nothing hostile nor serious, but in fact, I've heard some bad things from my sundanesse friends about javanesse people. And vice-versa is also true. Of course, it's nothing biggie. If they REALLY hate each other, there won't be half-breed like Majapahitans, right?

[Majapahitans]

Majapahitans, could you tell us about the victory of Raden Wijaya (founder of Majapahit) against the Mongol invasion ordered by Kublai Khan?

After Singhasari drove Srivijaya influence out of Java altogether in 1290, King Kertanegara launch a naval campaign; the Pamalayu expediton to Malayu-Srivijaya, in Sumatra. King Kertanegara seems wants to build Singhasari as a regional maritime empire, just like Srivijaya has done before; controling sea trade routes from China to India.

The rising power, influence, and wealth of Javan Singhasari came to the attention of Kublai Khan of Yuan dynasty in China. Moreover Singhasari has formed alliance with Champa. Both Java and Champa are cautious of Mongol expansion and raids to neighboring states, like the raid of Bagan (Pagan) in Burma. Kubilai Khan sent emissaries demanding tribute from Java.
Kertanegara, last ruler of the Singhasari kingdom, refused to pay tribute. In the audition throne room of Singhasari court, King Kertanegara humiliated Khan by scarring and hurt Meng Ki's face, one of Mongol's envoy (some source even says the King cut the envoy's ear himself). The envoy return to China with the answer of Javan king written on his face; the scar .
Enraged by this humiliation and disgrace put upon his envoy, Khan sent a massive 1000 ship of punitive retaliation expedition which arrived off the coast of Tuban, Java in 1293.

Kertanegara seems to put too much emphasize on foreign affair rather than domestic one, he didn't realize a rebellion of former Kediri royal lineage are brewing homeward.

The Kediri (Gelang-gelang) army attack Singhasari from two directions, north and south. The king who only realize the northern invasion, has sent Raden Wijaya, his son in-law to vanquish the rebellion. The northern attack was put on bay, but southern one were successfully kept in stealth until they reach and sack the unprepared Kutaraja capital city. Jayakatwang had usurped and killed Kertanagara during the Tantra sacred ceremony, thus bring the end of Singhasari kingdom.

Learning the fall of Kutaraja Singhasari to Kediri, Raden Wijaya went to exile in the favor of the Regent (Bupati) Arya Wiraraja of Madura. With Arya Wiraraja patronage Raden Wijaya won favour from new monarch of Kediri who grant him permission to open new settlement north of mount Arjuna, the Tarik forest. In this wilderness Wijaya find lots of bitter Maja fruit, so this place called Majapahit, a future capital of the empire.

By the time the Mongol naval forces arrive on Java north coast (near Tuban), Raden Wijaya cleverly finds the opportunity to overthrow Jayakatwang of Kediri by using Mongol's hands.
Allied himself with the Mongols against Jayakatwang and, once Jayakatwang was destroyed, he turned to attack Mongol army. Forced his Mongol allies to withdraw from the isle after he launched a surprise attack.

The huge Mongol Army in confusion find themself surrounded by enemies in dangerous hostile land. It was the last time for the monsoon sea-wind to depart for home, otherwise, they would have had to wait for another six months on a totally hostile island. So Mongols had to withdraw to their ships and head back to China. Prince Wijaya successfully drove Mongols forces to the sea.

Then the clever victor, Prince Wijaya ascended the throne as Kertajasa Jayawardhana, the first king of Majapahit on November 1293 AD.

Trivia Quiz:

1. In this whole wide world's history, there's only three nations had successfully hold and kick back the world dominating, massive, "invincible" Mongol forces. Please name those 3 nations!

2. The so called 'yellow race with narrow eyes' invasion to Southeast Asia (esp. Java) has been foreseen and predicted centuries before, by a psychic Javanese King.
What is the name of that King with extraordinary gift of pshycic talents....?

3. Actually this 'yellow' invasion is proven has happened twice in Javan history.... Name those two 'yellow' invasions.....!
Those two 'yellow peril' but short period is destined to be "pre-requisite" for the formation of free and unified empire/nation. What empire and nation is that....?

Those who successfully answer these question, is a true history-freak . He/she will receive my eternal admiration

This post has been edited by Majapahitans: Oct 25 2006, 12:14 PM

[cewe_indonycian]

Thanks you,... thats very interesting posts Mas , let me take a shot at the quiz…
reading from your previous posts and some googling, here are some probable answers:

Trivia Quiz:
1. In this whole wide world's history, there's only three nations had successfully hold and kick back the world dominating, massive, "invincible" Mongol forces. Please name those 3 nations!

1. Beside Majapahit the other 3 nations were : China, Japan (1274/1281) and possibly Dai Viet (North Vietnam)

2. The so called 'yellow race with narrow eyes' invasion to Southeast Asia (esp. Java) has been foreseen and predicted centuries before, by a psychic Javanese King.
What is the name of that King with extraordinary gift of pshycic talents....?

2. That prophet-king was none other than Jayabaya the ruler of Kediri kingdom (1135-1157)

3. Actually this 'yellow' invasion is proven has happened twice in Javan history.... Name those two 'yellow' invasions.....!
Those two 'yellow peril' but short period is destined to be "pre-requisite" for the formation of free and unified empire/nation. What empire and nation is that....?

3. The two so called "yellow invasions" foretold by Jayabaya were of course :
A). The Mongol invasion in 1293 during Raden Wijaya era that led to the formation of the great Majapahit Kingdom/unified Nusantara and
B) The Japanese occupation in 1942-1945 that led to the formation of a free NKRI


And here is my jumbled comment :

Saya ngobrol dengan seorang pak dosen dari Bdg dia bilang penyajian sejarah kita masih datar, kurang berelung dan kurang berorientasi kepada pemecahan masalah.

Misalnya bagaimana meningkatkan metoda pembelajaran sejarah kita dari pengisian daya memori jangka pendek seperti menghafalkan nama2 dan tanggal peristiwa2 ke yg lebih fungsional seperti mentradisikan belajar nilai sosial dari kesalahan sejarah (supaya jangan mengulanginya) dan
perbaikan sistem pembelajaran nilai-nilai sosial yang secara perlahan dapat mengubah tatanan berpikir ke arah yang lebih terbuka, kritis, dan bijaksana.

...dan juga sejarah umumnya ditulis oleh pemenang yah dan yang kalah jarang mendapatkan kesempatan menuliskan versinya.

[TonyL]

China is usually not included if we mean repelling invasion. I think Egypt should be there. So it would be Java, Japan , Egypt. Vietnam can be added too.

Something in honour to the king with foresight :

"Thus the fame off such a hero, renowned as conqueror in battle, spread throughout the three worlds ; all his vanquished enemies acknowledged him as Lord Protector. As his fame spread , the whole world honoured him with the name of His Majesty Lord Jayabaya,confirmed and blessed as well by the nobles as well as by eminent brahmins, sages , siwaites and buddhists. "

( verse from Old Javanese work Bharata Yuddha )

These quizes are nice.

This post has been edited by TonyL: Oct 25 2006, 10:57 PM

[Bhaskara]

Aww...I wanna answer too. But then again, I'm not really a history freak...

[Majapahitans]

Thanks you,... thats very interesting posts Mas , let me take a shot at the quiz…
reading from your previous posts and some googling, here are some probable answers:
1. Beside Majapahit the other 3 nations were : China, Japan (1274/1281) and possibly Dai Viet (North Vietnam)
2. That prophet-king was none other than Jayabaya the ruler of Kediri kingdom (1135-1157)

3. The two so called "yellow invasions" foretold by Jayabaya were of course :
A). The Mongol invasion in 1293 during Raden Wijaya era that led to the formation of the great Majapahit Kingdom/unified Nusantara and
B) The Japanese occupation in 1942-1945 that led to the formation of a free NKRI

Nice answers...., but for the first questions, out of three only Japan fits the question.
Kaifeng of Southern Song China has fallen to Mongol Horde. Even Kublai Khan create new Yuan dynasty in China, a foreign regime dynasty in Han Chinese history together with Qing of Manchus.

The right answer is Tony L's answer
1. Java (now Indonesia, clever and cunning Prince Wijaya who later set the base for Majapahit empire)
2. Japan (but it was nature who destroy Mongol's fleets, Typhoon, the wind of gods; Kamikaze)
3. Egypt (Malmelukes warrior of Egypt who kickback Mongols from Egypt). Correct me if I was wrong, but is it Ibn Taimiyah, the hero who liberated Ad Dhimasq (Damascus) from Mongol's horde....?

The other two is perfect answer..... Clever Girl.....

This post has been edited by Majapahitans: Oct 26 2006, 07:30 AM

[purnomor]

Hi Mas Majapahitans!

What are the causes and outcomes of the Paregreg War of 1405?

This post has been edited by purnomor: Nov 1 2006, 02:03 AM

[Majapahitans]

Paregreg war sign the slow but steady decline of Majapahit.....
Like many dynastic causes of destruction, internal intrique, struggle for succession of power, leads to the weakening of the empire.

The Paregreg war is the war between Wikramawardhana (Hayam Wuruk son in law, husband of crown princess, Kusumawardhani) vs Bhre Wirabumi (Hayam Wuruk's sons from concubine).
Bhre Wirabhumi claim that as male heir of Hayam Wuruk, he's deserve the throne better than his half sister. Although Majapahit are quite advance in succession law. First born of the queen are deserve to be the future emperor, regardless their gender..... So we can find both male and female monarch in Majapahit history.

When the separation and struggle for power over Majapahit throne built up, the envoy of China incidentally slaughtered because they are in the wrong place and in wrong time, being the guests of Bhre Wirabhumi in East Majapahit.

Bhre Wirabhumi is killed by Wikramawardhana and royal house of Majapahit united again. but the war really exhaust Majapahit's strength.

This post has been edited by Majapahitans: Nov 2 2006, 09:21 AM

[heartshapedbox]

The emperor Hayam Wuruk was dissapointed, he has lost his faith to this powerful Prime Minister. The opposed ministers has arroused the Emperor's suspicions that Gajah Mada now is too powerful, that he maybe gonna commit Coup d'etat and have Majapahit throne reserved for himself.
Howabout the emperor personal feeling....? It strongly suggested that the emperor is feeling guilty, sad, angered, and broken hearted after the tragic death of his future queen, Princess of Sunda.
So..., after the incident the emperor ordered Gajah Mada for early retirement (btw he's quite old at that time). But despite the suspicions, the history proved that Gajah Mada is a loyal servant for Majapahit's crown He accepted emperor's offer and retired himself to Madakaripura, Probolinggo (Prabhalingga).
Btw it's strongly suggested that Gajah Mada adhere Siwa-Buddha, Javanese syncretism of Hinduism and Buddhism. Several years later, Gajah Mada vanished from his mountain retirement house. His wive try to search for him everywhere, but he just dissapeard. This event strongly add speculations for Gajah Mada's supranatural origin.... .
Me or Tom Cruise....? becanda yah....?

I read in the historic-fiction novel Gajah Mada by Langit Kresna Hariadi, that Gajah Mada probably was never married. There was no authentic-written proves that he was married. Maybe it becoz of his 'Hamukti Palapa' that he made when he became the Prime Minister of Majapahit. He wouldn't eat salty food, spicy food and other 'kenikmatan duniawi' until his dream came true. Sexual relationship could become on of his 'hamukti'
But I don't if when after he felt that he was already fulfilled his dream by uniting Nusantara, he got married.

PS: Btw, who is the handsome guy in your avatar?

[haqine]

Interesting.
I'm always thought probably we have some literatures who had borne about our histories, however the experts still haven't find it.
Who knows one day we could find another literatures like La Galigo epic

PS: Btw, who is the handsome guy in your avatar?

^That's mas majapahit
You think so too

[furansizuka]

That was he in his glorious day
sorry ya mas maja, sekali2 cewe godain cowo boleh, dong?!

[Majapahitans]

PS: Btw, who is the handsome guy in your avatar?

^That's mas majapahit
You think so too

(speachless......)

That was he in his glorious day

Iyah..., itu waktu gladiresik wisuda di koridor Balairung.

sorry ya mas maja, sekali2 cewe godain cowo boleh, dong?!

Bole aja....,
I have nothing against women emancipation......
Aha..ha..ha..

This post has been edited by Majapahitans: Nov 3 2006, 09:52 AM

[Majapahitans]

Majapahit empire teritorry during her height of Glory



I remember once Siri ask me weather I have map of Majapahit empire.
Well there you go.....

The map shows the area mentioned in the Book of Negarakertagama pupuh XIII dan XIV.

As you can see...., other than areas now known as Indonesia, Majapahit empire also ruled areas now known as Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei, East Timor. (Also Sulu island of The Phillippines....).

This post has been edited by Majapahitans: Nov 7 2006, 04:27 AM

[Sirikittong]

Majapahit empire teritorry during her height of Glory



I remember once Siri ask me weather I have map of Majapahit empire.
Well there you go.....

The map shows the area mentioned in the Book of Negarakertagama pupuh XIII dan XIV.

As you can see...., other than areas now known as Indonesia, Majapahit empire also ruled areas now known as Malaysia, Singapore, and Brunei. (Also Sulu island of The Phillippines....).

A very expansive maritime empire, indeed.

Thank You for sharing this with us, Maja.

[Astromantic]

Majapahit empire teritorry during her height of Glory



I remember once Siri ask me weather I have map of Majapahit empire.
Well there you go.....

The map shows the area mentioned in the Book of Negarakertagama pupuh XIII dan XIV.

As you can see...., other than areas now known as Indonesia, Majapahit empire also ruled areas now known as Malaysia, Singapore, and Brunei. (Also Sulu island of The Phillippines....).

Even to Papua!

[Bhaskara]

Whaa?Papua?I thought it was only a weak probability from a poem from an Empu?And I thought it has not been proven yet that the names mentioned in that poem is located Papua?