Koreans and plastic surgery, statistics Options

[Ino_II]

I wouldn't say Chinese are flocking to go to SK like these articles suggest. Even if they make up 10% of korean plastic surgery industry, Chinese in HK, Taiwan, and the mainland make up 1.3-1.4 billion people. I wouldn't say it is a fair representative view. Maybe there aren't many plastic surgeons in China? Or maybe the plastic surgery is more advanced in SK?

more advanced.

Cynics say the boom won’t last. Kim Si-wan, the director of a medical consulting firm OpenDoctors, said, “Chinese plastic surgery skills have developed, so more and more Chinese doctors perform operations using Korean techniques in their hospitals in China.” In other words, it is the Chinese clinics that reap the rewards of the Korean Wave when they put up pictures of Korean stars in the reception as a marketing gimmick.

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This post has been edited by Ino_II: Oct 28 2006, 10:08 PM

[kmondiale]

Nationmaster bases the statistics on this source:

http://www.isaps.org/stats_comingsoon.php

I don't think this organization is reliable at all. HK's
health institutions adopt more western standards, and
just make them vulnerable to false statistics.

Of course, korean market is unregulated, comparing to western standard. that tells more real story. I mean this organization is a voluntary membership, and not like having any relations with regulation body, how could they estimate anything accurate? hopeless.

http://www.isaps.org/info_organization.php

This post has been edited by kmondiale: Oct 28 2006, 10:16 PM

[northwestern_stu...]

i think these are general types of plastic surgery. people who go for plastic surgery in western countries usually tend to get boob jobs (not that expensive) and face lifts. whereas in especially korea and other east asian countries the focus is mainly on nosejobs (thinning, lifting and lengthening of nose and nostrils) and eyejobs (enlargement of eyes). if hong kong and taiwan are disregarded (they are not really countries), and if the stats only focused on facial surgery, then probably korea would come out top. either south korea, or hong kong and taiwan.

i read some time ago that korea does have the highest number of surgeons who are specialized in a form facial cosmetic surgery.

This post has been edited by northwestern_student: Oct 28 2006, 10:16 PM

[Ino_II]

i think these are general types of plastic surgery. people who go for plastic surgery in western countries usually tend to get boob jobs (not that expensive) and face lifts. whereas in especially korea and other east asian countries the focus is mainly on nosejobs (thinning and lengthening of nose and nostrils) and eyejobs (enlargement of eyes). if hong kong and taiwan are disregarded (they are not really countries), and if the stats only focused on facial surgery, then probably korea would come out top.

i would disregard hong kong but not taiwan. and youre forgetting japan.

japan is ranked 18th
taiwan is 13th

Still, something of the stigma remains, judging by how many of the women who appear on Beauty Colosseum and in myriad magazine testimonials do so under assumed names. Risa Arato, for instance, appeared on TV under the name Saori Toda.

Attitudes toward cosmetic surgery have also been dramatically reshaped by a new generation of cheaper, noninvasive techniques that aren't permanent.

Doctors can create double eyelids with sutures in 10 minutes for as little as $400. Other in-demand procedures include injections of botulium toxin A - a wrinkle-buster popular in North America - and hyaluronic acid, a tissue-filler from Europe used to enlarge noses and chins.

This post has been edited by Ino_II: Oct 28 2006, 10:17 PM

[northwestern_stu...]

^what does the above article prove?

again i am not saying europeans don't use facial cosmetic surgery, it's just that it's much more prevalent in east asian countries like korea and japan. also most of the emphasis of cosmetic sugery in europe is on boob jobs, facelifts, liposuction, vaginaplasty. etc. if only facial plastic surgery was concerned, then east asian countries would come on top. besides, they have the highest number of physicians specialized in facial surgery.

[deep impact]

it's true...the numbers are increasing every year...chinese think korean surgeons are the best...
not surprising actually...that's what the chinese media led them to believe...

Many korean surgeons do make money for japanese and chinese. But korean women just don't need any extra helps for beauty as korean is naturally endowed with stylistic features of altaic races.

[Ino_II]

^what does the above article prove?

again i am not saying europeans don't use facial cosmetic surgery, it's just that it's much more prevalent in east asian countries like korea and japan. also most of the emphasis of cosmetic sugery in europe is on boob jobs, facelifts, liposuction, vaginaplasty. etc. if only facial plastic surgery was concerned, then east asian countries would come on top. besides, they have the highest number of physicians specialized in facial surgery.

youd be surprised. medically, western countries have also been more advanced in the facial plastic surgery sector. facelifts are facial aernt they. and who invented Botox?


show me a source that shows that the highest number of physicians speciliazed in facial surgery are in Asia.

Many korean surgeons do make money for japanese and chinese. But korean women just don't need any extra helps for beauty as korean is naturally endowed with stylistic features of altaic races.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) uhm. no.

[northwestern_stu...]

youd be surprised. medically, western countries have also been more advanced in the facial plastic surgery sector. facelifts are facial aernt they. and who invented Botox?

we are talking about two different kinds of surgery. the aim cosmetic surgery in western countries is primarily to make people to look younger, hence the boob jobs (to fix sagging brests) and facelifts to correct wrinkles. and even botox is (originally used to treat muscle spasms) used to make people look more youthful. hence the joke with kerry and botox.


the cosmetic surgery in asia is for very different reasons than in the west

http://www.time.com/time/asia/covers/11010...5/plastics.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1435547.stm

Kim Hee-soon is fairly typical. An impossibly slender 28-year-old shipping clerk.

She began with a double eyelid operation when she went to university. It is the most common procedure for Koreans, designed to make the eyes look bigger.

Pleased with the result she went back later to ask for a more statuesque nose.


It is a highly lucrative business and everyone wants a slice of the action
But the surgeon had a suggestion of his own, an operation to make her chin more shapely and cutting from inside the mouth he inserted an implant.

Three years later, she still feels pain and discomfort, especially when the weather is cold.

But despite the experience she is now considering breast implants.

That surgeon, like so many others practising here, turned out to be unqualified for the job, but he aggressively denied anything was wrong with his handiwork.

Disfigurement

South Korea has just 1,200 certified plastic surgeons. Many thousands of others are operating without proper qualifications.

It is a highly lucrative business and everyone wants a slice of the action.

One qualified surgeon told me he knew of psychiatrists doing liposuction and radiologists performing double eyelid operations.

The results are predictable enough.


For those who want an even cheaper job, there is always the massage woman at the local sauna who is handy with the botox injection and the scalpel
Cosmetic surgeons tell hushed stories of botched noses, damaged faces and women who cannot close their eyes at all after too much of the lid is cut away.

Some of the practitioners have no grasp of basic surgery. Patients asking for liposuction are literally risking their lives on the operating table.

Qualified operators say their old classmates from med school constantly badger them for lessons on lucrative cosmetic operations.

The result has been a dramatic drop in the price of plastic surgery, making it available to all. A second eyelid for the price of a night out.

And for those who want an even cheaper job, there is always the massage woman at the local sauna who is handy with the botox injection and the scalpel.

Amazingly, malpractice suits are few and far between, and the damages paid to victims are derisory by international standards.

Most complaints are settled quietly out of court in deals brokered by the consumer association.

The certified plastic surgeons are pushing for tougher regulation and more accountability, but they are up against a powerful lobby of doctors who fight any restrictions on the right to practice.

This post has been edited by northwestern_student: Oct 28 2006, 10:35 PM

[xiaolin]

By conservative estimates, 50% of South Korean women in their 20s have had some form of cosmetic surgery

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from...ent/4229995.stm

[Ino_II]

By conservative estimates, 50% of South Korean women in their 20s have had some form of cosmetic surgery

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from...ent/4229995.stm

50% seems kinda off. that would like what? 2 million ?

[xiaolin]

http://www.seoulstyle.com/art_plasticFantastic.htm

[Ino_II]

The current statistics are hard to estimate, but after a search of the internet, one article claimed that about 50 percent of Korean women in their 20’s have undergone some kind of cosmetic operation.

not really concrete...

This post has been edited by Ino_II: Oct 28 2006, 10:41 PM

[HanulSky]

even if it's true. I've seen plenty of really pretty koreans before. and really ugly looking koreans. because in junior high and highschool, I use to see some hot koreans, and not so hot koreans. so it's really relative. beauty is just given to a certain percentage of people in every type of race, culture.

cuz there are really ugly white people and ugly one's. same goes for the indians, the native indians, africans, jewish, and asians.

so I hate to hear that korean people are pretty because they are totally reconstructed of something. That's just to weird.

[Ino_II]

^
true.. every race has its beauties, and beasts (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_neutral.gif)


btw hanul, wuts with ur sig? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[xiaolin]

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...29375&st=20


And here's what the data shows.

http://www.isaps.org/stats2002res.asp
Total number of answers: 113
Number of countries having answered: 35
country, # operations, % of total, rank
JAPAN 42842 8.99% 4 ---> 714 operations/surgeon
TAIWAN 10048 2.11% 14 ---> 346 operations/surgeon
SOUTH KOREA 9560 2.01% 15 ---> 478 operations/surgeon
HONG KONG 5096 1.07% 18 ---> 339 operations/surgeon


Among ISAP surgeons, of which SK had 20, HK had 15, Taiwan 29, and Japan had 60, Taiwan and HK had the lowest number of surgeries performed per surgeon.

Year 2002
http://www.isaps.org/stats2002res.asp
Country Procedures Percentage Rank
JAPAN 42842 8.99% 4
TAIWAN 10048 2.11% 14
SOUTH KOREA 9560 2.01% 15

year 2003
http://www.isaps.org/Stats2003CompRes.asp
Country ISAPS 2001 ISAPS 2002 ISAPS 2003
JAPAN 2.6% 9.0% 3.8%
SOUTH KOREA - 2.0% 2.8%
TAIWAN 2.5% 2.1% 2.5%

Country Procedures Percentage Rank
USA 85635 16.35% 1
MEXICO 50490 9.64% 2
BRAZIL 47162 9.00% 3
CANADA 31460 6.01% 4
ARGENTINA 31232 5.96% 5
SPAIN 28757 5.49% 6
FRANCE 25265 4.82% 7
GERMANY 20114 3.84% 8
JAPAN 19837 3.79% 9
SOUTH AFRICA 18324 3.50% 10
GREAT BRITAIN 16473 3.15% 11
SOUTH KOREA 14619 2.79% 12



For the fifth consecutive year we produce the ISAPS International Statistics on Aesthetic Surgery procedures.
These numbers relate to the 585,891 aesthetic procedures performed by the members of the International Society of Plastic Surgery – ISAPS – in 2004. These statistics do not represent the work of every plastic surgeon in each country and this is why it is smaller than the numbers presented by National societies of plastic surgery. For example, in the US there are 6,600 members of ASPS, the National plastic surgery society, and only 189 are ISAPS members; In Brazil there are 4,400 members of the SBCP and only 144 are members of ISAPS.

ISAPS members however represent an important part of the plastic surgery community in every country. They are surgeons with a special interest for aesthetic surgery and they usually represent an international standard of education and quality of work. Last year data was collected by email for the first time. Again this year, between April and June, we sent three emails with the questionnaires to the 1285 ISAPS members worldwide. We received by the end of July 2005, 165 answers from 42 countries. Some doctors had difficulty sending the data by email, so they faxed them to the Webmaster who filled in their forms for them.

As in previous years we applied a correction factor to the numbers to statistically represent all the ISAPS members.

HIGHLIGHTS
The USA continues to be the country with more ISAPS members and more aesthetic procedures performed.

Mexico continues for the second consecutive year in second place. The recent trend of Medical Tourism we believe has benefited Mexican surgeons who get more business, due the good quality of their work and the proximity with the US.

Brazil has dropped in two years from second to seventh place. This can be due to the economic changes in the country, with a drop in the income of the population, now prefering cheaper procedures and doctors who are not members of ISAPS.

For the first time we divided the world in five continents, America, Europe, Africa, Asia and Oceania. America (North, Central and South) is in first place with 43,92% of the procedures, Europe second with 33,26%, Asia third with 16,54%, Africa fourth with 4,04% and Oceania fifth with 2,23%.

Usually the international proportion of procedures according to sex has been 90% female and 10% male, with variations of one or two percent in the last five years. Last year many articles have been published in the international press stating that the male population is having more surgery every year. This is not what the numbers show. There are some countries were the male population is higher and this can be due to the responses coming from surgeons who perform hair transplantation, a procedure mainly for the male patient. There has actually been an increase in the number of women in the US, where more than 94% of the patients are women.

Many publications in 2004 devoted pages to the “boom of plastic surgery in adolescents.” In the last four years we have had only about 12% of the patients below the age of 20, 60% between 21 and 50 and 28% older than 51. This year we see that this proportion is stable. The under twenties surgeries proportion is the smallest in Europe with less than 11%. Almost 70% are performed in patients between 21 and 50 years old. Europe is the Continent where less people older than 50 have plastic surgery, only 20%. In Asia 29% of the patients are older than 50.

Of all the procedures performed by ISAPS members in 2004, 25% are non-surgical. Here we include applications, such as Botox, which was again the number 1 procedure last year, and other substances including Restylane, Perlane, collagen, PMMA and hydrogel. Together with chemical peels these are now very popular among ISAPS members.

The most popular surgical procedure for both sexes is blepharoplasty (eyelid surgery), followed by breast augmentation and lipoplasty. Lipoplasty, which was for a long time in first place for both sexes, has now dropped to third place. Rhinoplasty (nose) is fourth. Fat injection, a procedure that a few years ago many surgeons believed did not work is now in fifth place, double the number from last year.

Considering only female patients worldwide we have first breast augmentation, followed by blepharoplasty and lipoplasty. This shows that the fears about breast implants have been overcome and the procedure is again very popular. The most popular procedures for men are rhinoplasty, blepharoplasty and lipoplasty.

The breast implant questionnaire revealed that the preferred implants are textured capsule and cohesive gel-filled.

We are releasing a Comparison between the 2002, 2003 and 2004 statistics and the 3 most popular procedures per country.

If you have any questions please contact us at the Media Center.

Dr. Luiz S. Toledo
ISAPS Public Education Committee

Corrected # of Procedures per Country
Country Procedures Percentage Rank
USA 76091 12.99% 1
MEXICO 54074 9.23% 2
ARGENTINA 49590 8.46% 3
SPAIN 47680 8.14% 4
FRANCE 38070 6.50% 5
GERMANY 36607 6.25% 6
BRAZIL 35728 6.10% 7
SOUTH AFRICA 23698 4.04% 8
TURKEY 22827 3.90% 9
JAPAN 17227 2.94% 10
SWITZERLAND 15622 2.67% 11
SOUTH KOREA 13797 2.35% 12
CANADA 13189 2.25% 13
AUSTRALIA 13072 2.23% 14
TAIWAN 11018 1.88% 15
LEBANON 10790 1.84% 16
CHILE 10430 1.78% 17
GREECE 9783 1.67% 18
SERBIA-MONTENEGRO 9438 1.61% 19
RUSSIA 8754 1.49% 20
COLOMBIA 8330 1.42% 21
GREAT BRITAIN 8114 1.38% 22
DENMARK 7680 1.31% 23
INDIA 6173 1.05% 24
ITALY 5400 0.92% 25
SWEDEN 4902 0.84% 26
ECUADOR 4375 0.75% 27
VENEZUELA 4314 0.74% 28
PORTUGAL 3494 0.60% 29
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES 3289 0.56% 30
FINLAND 2430 0.41% 31
CYPRUS 2094 0.36% 32
SLOVAK REPUBLIC 1778 0.30% 33
PHILIPPINES 1185 0.20% 34
BULGARIA 1093 0.19% 35
JORDAN 994 0.17% 36
ISRAEL 770 0.13% 37
MALAYSIA 658 0.11% 38
BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA 385 0.07% 39
INDONESIA 336 0.06% 40
CZECH REP 312 0.05% 41
HONG KONG, CHINA 300 0.05% 42
Total 585891 100.00%



cosmetic surgery percent
SOUTH KOREA 28.8%
JAPAN 13.5%
TAIWAN 5.8%

but about 50 percent of Korean women in their 20’s have undergone some kind of cosmetic operation
http://www.seoulstyle.com/art_plasticFantastic.htm

This post has been edited by xiaolin: Oct 28 2006, 11:35 PM

[HanulSky]

^
true.. every race has its beauties, and beasts (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_neutral.gif)
btw hanul, wuts with ur sig? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

PMS. don't bother me.

[Ino_II]

In other words, among Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea, between 2000-2004, all three countries have taken turn at being first place among plastic surgeries

mods. can you close this thread? we shouldn't really be fighting flame wars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_neutral.gif)

sooner or later, some people with tempers are gonna come and its going to be this gorup vs. that group. not really what we want to see.

This post has been edited by Ino_II: Oct 28 2006, 11:20 PM

[Takashi]

In other words, among Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea, between 2000-2004, all three countries have taken turn at being first place among plastic surgeries

mods. can you close this thread? we shouldn't really be fighting flame wars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_neutral.gif)

sooner or later, some people with tempers are gonna come and its going to be this gorup vs. that group. not really what we want to see.

Mods, dont close the thread. Doesn't need closing, not yet anyway.

Anyway the original stats posted are old, they're from 2002, I remember finding some more up-to-date stats that I sent to toki, we're ranked a little higher, I think we were in the top 20.

As for the info posted by xiaolin, that was a complete waste of time seeing as that only shows the number of procedures as a percentage of the number of procedures in those countries specified, it doesn't show the procedures per capita and I dont know where he/she got the 28.8% from (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_confused.gif)
The 2003 ISAPS stats have no figures for plastic surgeries per capita.
You can have percentages showing whatever you like giving high rankings but if you don't take into account the number of people in the country the rankings effectively mean jack $hit, anyone with basic mathematical knowledge should know that.

This post has been edited by Takashi: Oct 29 2006, 12:41 AM

[qnpfr]

@xiaolin where did that 28.8% come from?
the ISAPS statistics are for cosmetic surgery lol
here i quoted from your own post "ISAPS International Statistics on Aesthetic Surgery procedures..."
"ISAPS members...They are surgeons with a special interest for aesthetic surgery..."

[Takashi]

@xiaolin where did that 28.8% come from?
the ISAPS statistics are for cosmetic surgery lol
here i quoted from your own post "ISAPS International Statistics on Aesthetic Surgery procedures..."
"ISAPS members...They are surgeons with a special interest for aesthetic surgery..."

The ones posted by JJK1 ares ISAPS as well (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_rolleyes.gif)
Plastic surgery is about aesthetics.