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 Nov 24 2006, 04:01 PM
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AF Guru  Group: Members Posts: 3,529 Joined: 16-February 06  |
QUOTE(Betong @ Nov 24 2006, 01:53 AM) [snapback]2509918[/snapback] You just cannot compare Islam with other religion and vice versa... Maybe some are their teaching are same but did Christian practice it... I don't think so... I'm not so surprise if Christian have same methodoly regarding married because we're still what so called "Abrahamic Religion".... Yes they do practice it. I have friends who won't date non Christians. But why does it matter, as there are Christians who don't practice every aspect of their religion, there are Muslims who do likewise. The fact that there Muslims in Malaysia who want to give up their religion says enough. The difference between Christians and Muslims in Malaysia is that in Malaysia the Muslim leaders have influence in the laws. In Singapore Muslims convert out of their religion all the time, furthermore inter-racial marriages occur with neither spouse having to convert. How would Malaysia respond if Singapore laws made it compulsory that in inter-religious marriages, Muslims had to convert to either Christianity of Buddism? |
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Nov 26 2006, 07:53 AM
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AF Pro  Group: Members Posts: 1,898 Joined: 3-November 06 From: The Land of Twin Tower |
You should not asked what Malaysia will do??? The right question was did Singapore have a gut to do that??? It not compatible with human rights that proposed by American to Singapore.... What American will say first???
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Nov 26 2006, 05:18 PM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,529 Joined: 16-February 06 |
QUOTE(Betong @ Nov 26 2006, 07:53 AM) [snapback]2515925[/snapback] You should not asked what Malaysia will do??? The right question was did Singapore have a gut to do that??? It not compatible with human rights that proposed by American to Singapore.... What American will say first??? I'm not sure what you mean, but if you're saying that Singapore doesn't have the guts to implement laws regarding freedon of choice regarding religion, then this is not true. WRT Singapore its not a matter of guts. If you're suggesting that Singapore wouldn't do it becasue of pressure from the US, this is not true. Singapore believes in freedom of religion. If you want religious harmory in the world, then all religions needs to be treated equally. You may believe that yours is the one true religion fair enough but, you shouldn't force your religion on to others. |
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Nov 26 2006, 06:11 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,898 Joined: 3-November 06 From: The Land of Twin Tower |
No, Singapore only didn't have gut to do this
QUOTE How would Malaysia respond if Singapore laws made it compulsory that in inter-religious marriages, Muslims had to convert to either Christianity of Buddism? We never force any non-muslim to join Islam for sure..... |
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Nov 26 2006, 06:21 PM
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AF Geek  Group: Members Posts: 280 Joined: 19-November 06 From: Negara Malaysia |
But once you're muslim, Your're not allowed to get out. We make damn sure anyone who wish to convert to Islam understand this fact. it's like joining the regular army. once you've join, you must serve the term.
Woi Betong! kenapa ko guna slogan UTM? |
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Nov 26 2006, 06:25 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,898 Joined: 3-November 06 From: The Land of Twin Tower |
Slogan ni best woooo!!!!
Nak fight ngan slogan ko?? This post has been edited by Betong: Nov 26 2006, 06:26 PM |
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Nov 26 2006, 06:55 PM
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AF Geek Group: Members Posts: 273 Joined: 28-September 06 |
QUOTE(Malay_guy @ Nov 27 2006, 07:21 AM) [snapback]2517262[/snapback] But once you're muslim, Your're not allowed to get out. We make damn sure anyone who wish to convert to Islam understand this fact. it's like joining the regular army. once you've join, you must serve the term. Woi Betong! kenapa ko guna slogan UTM? so, how about those newly bornt in a muslim family? i have a friends (malay and he has a chinese wife) that told me his childrens are not muslim. he said children shouldn't be punished for their parent's mistake. i am sure you get what i meant. QUOTE(Betong @ Nov 27 2006, 07:11 AM) [snapback]2517210[/snapback] We never force any non-muslim to join Islam for sure..... please refer to my 2 points before. hence, indirectly muslim did and u called it brilliant 
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Nov 26 2006, 07:05 PM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,898 Joined: 3-November 06 From: The Land of Twin Tower |
The a rule that said that said Muslim cannot married non-Muslim...
And that I called brilliant... Surely your Malay friend doesn't know what he miss!!!! |
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Nov 26 2006, 07:22 PM
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AF Geek Group: Members Posts: 273 Joined: 28-September 06 |
QUOTE(Betong @ Nov 27 2006, 08:05 AM) [snapback]2517413[/snapback] The a rule that said that said Muslim cannot married non-Muslim... And that I called brilliant... Surely your Malay friend doesn't know what he miss!!!! that's is what we called indirectly force then  yeah... mayb u r right... cos he dun seems to miss "it" at all
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Nov 26 2006, 08:53 PM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,103 Joined: 9-July 04 From: Kuching |
QUOTE(Wulandari @ Nov 18 2006, 11:27 AM) [snapback]2491695[/snapback] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5205328.stm If Muslims believe Islam is the real religion, why they are so afraid if Muslims will convert to become non Muslims? There is something wrong with Islam  Just another case in insecure Malaysia. There's even this crap where one top guy said that his staff should stop wishing their Hindu friends "Happy Deepavali" because it contradicts their (Muslim) faith, or something like that. Then we non-Muslims should also stop wishing our Muslim brothers "Selamat Hari Raya Aidilfitri" because it contradicts the principles of our faith! Where's the religious tolerance that the government has been trumpeting? And what with not eating buns with crosses on it ... snap out of the fanaticism, my brethrens. Seems like fanaticism seems to show more under the reign of the gentle Abdullah Badawi. Where's Islam Hadhari? QUOTE(Bhaskara @ Nov 18 2006, 02:50 PM) [snapback]2492069[/snapback] So in Malaysia, Muslims can't convert to other religion?I'm sorry, but that is SO wrong!We have this thing called "Human Rights", if u haven't heard of it. It includes the freedom of religiousity! If you are a muslim, and believe that Islam is the truth, u shouldnt feel threatened by muslim who wishes to convert. It's their loss, right? Agreed. You can advise them, but not to the point of threatening them. |
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Nov 26 2006, 11:14 PM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,529 Joined: 16-February 06 |
QUOTE(Betong @ Nov 26 2006, 06:11 PM) [snapback]2517210[/snapback] No, Singapore only didn't have gut to do this We never force any non-muslim to join Islam for sure..... It has noting to do with guts, its to do with freedom to choose your own religion being one of the basic human rights. The US which is the strongest and prbably the biggest Christian dominated country in the world does not enforce this. So tell me if its a matter of guts, who is the US afraid off? QUOTE(Malay_guy @ Nov 26 2006, 06:21 PM) [snapback]2517262[/snapback] But once you're muslim, Your're not allowed to get out. We make damn sure anyone who wish to convert to Islam understand this fact. it's like joining the regular army. once you've join, you must serve the term. Even witht he regular army, once you've served your time you are allowed to leave. QUOTE(Betong @ Nov 26 2006, 07:05 PM) [snapback]2517413[/snapback] The a rule that said that said Muslim cannot married non-Muslim... And that I called brilliant... Surely your Malay friend doesn't know what he miss!!!! Yes and Christians aren't allowed to marry non Christians. The rule that prohibits Muslims from marrying non Muslims is a religious law, it is not the govnt's law. Since Christians and Muslims both have this law, then maybe the govnt just shouldn't allow any inter religious marriages. ie no one is allow to give up their religion. |
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Nov 27 2006, 03:14 AM
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AF Elite  Group: Members Posts: 5,662 Joined: 6-October 06 From: Zamrud Khatulistiwa |
Pls guys, both Islam and Christianity forbids inter-religion marriage. The point is not the religion, but the the law in Malaysia itself. Indonesia is the largest muslim-populated country in the world, but we let people choose their own religion as they please. Religion convertion is a regular thing, u don't have to got to the court and wait for them to decide what should've been ur right.
Betong, I am sad to hear u out. I guess u love Islam, and that's good. Unfortunately, people like u who gives Islam a bad name. How can Islam show that it is a religion of peace and grace if a muslim like u show zero-tolerance? If u truly love Islam, u better do some rethinking. |
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Nov 27 2006, 03:24 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 1,898 Joined: 3-November 06 From: The Land of Twin Tower |
Sorry Bashkara, that certain I have to disagree. But we can always discuss to find the solution...
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Nov 27 2006, 05:49 AM
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AF Guru Group: Members Posts: 3,529 Joined: 16-February 06 |
QUOTE(Betong @ Nov 27 2006, 03:24 AM) [snapback]2518925[/snapback] Sorry Bashkara, that certain I have to disagree. But we can always discuss to find the solution... I'm afraid that as long as you feel that Islam deserves special priviledges, its going to be near impossible to find a compromised solution. |
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Nov 27 2006, 06:28 AM
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AF Geek Group: Members Posts: 273 Joined: 28-September 06 |
QUOTE(Betong @ Nov 27 2006, 04:24 PM) [snapback]2518925[/snapback] Sorry Bashkara, that certain I have to disagree. But we can always discuss to find the solution... discussion for solution when you are so firmed with it? please enlighthen us your thought and possible solution..... |
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Nov 27 2006, 06:43 AM
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AF Elite Group: Members Posts: 5,662 Joined: 6-October 06 From: Zamrud Khatulistiwa |
Betong, my man...I can't believe u don't even budge when I gave u an illustration on how would u react if the situation was reversed...
Repent!pls... |
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Dec 22 2006, 06:33 AM
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AF Geek Group: Members Posts: 272 Joined: 26-August 06 |
QUOTE(Wulandari @ Nov 18 2006, 11:27 AM) [snapback]2491695[/snapback] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5205328.stm If Muslims believe Islam is the real religion, why they are so afraid if Muslims will convert to become non Muslims? There is something wrong with Islam  ha ha I think all ethnic Chinese, ethnic Indian and non-mulsim Malays should move out of Malaysia. 
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Dec 22 2006, 09:50 AM
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AF Geek Group: Members Posts: 228 Joined: 21-April 06 |
QUOTE(FIVB @ Dec 22 2006, 06:33 AM) [snapback]2591770[/snapback] ha ha I think all ethnic Chinese, ethnic Indian and non-mulsim Malays should move out of Malaysia. ha ha And leave you and your friends to indulge in inbreeding and incest? Sure... I'll ask the "foreigners" permission for you. This post has been edited by Centurion: Dec 22 2006, 09:53 AM |
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Dec 23 2006, 02:35 AM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 12 Joined: 22-December 05 |
the givernment is damn senstivie n bias towrds tis issue..so nothing will change even after 100 years ok nuff said
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Mar 11 2007, 11:14 AM
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AF Pro Group: Members Posts: 2,148 Joined: 12-September 05 |
Allah or God love and respect all believers and unbeliever and so should we. (We were all once unbelievers, unless we are Allah or God.)
Religion is a relationship between human and Allah/God; no need to check with human courts of any kind. And All believers say Amen!
This post has been edited by LaoShare: Mar 11 2007, 11:20 AM |
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