do you think vietnam is encouragement taiwan to get independent from china in secretly. ?
is it beneficial to vietnam in the future for supporting taiwan?
is taiwan alway friendly with vietnam ?
is china and taiwan both having good trading with vietnam more than a decade ?
If taiwan get independent ,and then
Tibet get independent also.?
mongolian get their half part from china also.?
does China want to be a old soviet union or a russia.

FYI.

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/editorial/deta...=i&id=95576

Taiwan-Vietnam ties are looking better than ever

2006/11/20
The China Post


Once again, political pressure from Beijing has made it impossible for President Chen Shui-bian to attend the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) forum's leadership summit.

It was regrettable that Vietnam, the APEC meeting's host country, could not overcome Beijing's pressure. However, we were especially heartened to see Hanoi roll out the red carpet for President Chen's special envoy, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company chairman Morris Chang.

As was the case at past APEC events, our special envoy will be permitted to take part on President Chen's behalf and meet with top officials and heads of state from other APEC member economies.

And in a symbolic gesture, Chang was permitted to fly to Vietnam in President Chen's official aircraft, dubbed "Air Force One" by the local news media. Reports here have said that the aircraft, which bears the Republic of China's flag and national symbols, has never been permitted to land in the capital of a foreign country that has no diplomatic relations with us.

After Chang's arrival, his delegation was met by officials from Vietnam's Foreign Ministry and received a police escort as they made their way into the city toward their hotel accommodations.

While the reception still fell short from that normally accorded a visiting head of state, the cordial arrangements symbolized just how much relations between Taiwan and Vietnam have changed for the better over recent years.

It really was stunning and surprising to see footage of Chang's aircraft landing in Hanoi, since such a scenario was truly unthinkable not very long ago.

During the Vietnam War, Taipei was a staunch ally of the former government of South Vietnam and provided material and logistical support to Saigon.

Shortly before Saigon fell to invading North Vietnamese forces in April of 1975, South Vietnamese President Nguyen Van Thieu personally fled to Taipei, where his younger brother was serving as South Vietnam's ambassador to the ROC, and eventually resettled in Britain.

When South Vietnam collapsed during that fateful month, ROC forces were dispatched to assist with the evacuation of our nationals, many of whom had lived and worked in South Vietnam for many years.

In Taipei, the fall of Saigon was officially trumpeted as a stark warning of what would ultimately happen if Taiwan were to make any sort of compromises in its dealings with the communist government of mainland China.

Large numbers of South Vietnamese who had been studying in Taiwan or visiting at the time of the fall crowded into Saigon's embassy in Taipei in the hopes of getting travel documents or last minute assistance with resettling here or in a third country.

An aircraft belonging to the defunct South Vietnamese airline sat abandoned for several days at the Sungshan Airport, and eventually was handed over to a domestic airline here in Taiwan.

After Saigon fell and South Vietnam was annexed by North Vietnam, authorities in Hanoi began persecuting ethnic Chinese in the country and large numbers of them fled, including many refugees who made their way to Taiwan.

Things got even worse after the events of late 1978 and early 1979, when Vietnam invaded and occupied Cambodia, triggering mainland China's brief "war of punishment" against Vietnam.

After reaching rock-bottom, ties began to rapidly turn for the better after the Vietnamese government adopted mainland Chinese-style economic reforms in the mid-1980s.

Starting around that time, Vietnam changed its policies and began welcoming foreign investors, including Taiwanese businesspeople who had extensive experience in labor-intensive exporting industries.

While Vietnam's communist government has since renewed its friendship with Beijing, Hanoi has opened unofficial relations with our government much in the same way that other countries of Southeast Asia deal with us.

Today, Taiwan has become Vietnam's largest source of foreign investment capital, with an estimated US$8 billion sunk into mostly labor-intensive manufacturing industries.

In recent years, officials and entrepreneurs from Taiwan have shared their experience with Vietnamese counterparts in operating export processing zones and formulating policies conducive to economic growth.

Taiwanese investment in Vietnam is widely expected to grow after Vietnam becomes a member of the World Trade Organization.

While ties between Taipei and Hanoi remain unofficial, it could easily be argued that relations have never been better.

That is most likely the reason why Hanoi managed to shrug off Beijing's demands and permit Chang to arrive in the presidential jet and take full part in the APEC summit.

According to reports published in Taiwan, Beijing had initially believed it could stongarm Vietnam into completely banning Taiwan from participating in any of the APEC events this year.

We are grateful that Hanoi was able to overcome this pressure and note that our treatment has been commensurate with the warm state of unofficial relations between our two countries.

FYI.

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/editorial/deta...=i&id=95576

Taiwan-Vietnam ties are looking better than ever

2006/11/20
The China Post


Once again, political pressure from Beijing has made it impossible for President Chen Shui-bian to attend the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) forum's leadership summit.

It was regrettable that Vietnam, the APEC meeting's host country, could not overcome Beijing's pressure. However, we were especially heartened to see Hanoi roll out the red carpet for President Chen's special envoy, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company chairman Morris Chang.

As was the case at past APEC events, our special envoy will be permitted to take part on President Chen's behalf and meet with top officials and heads of state from other APEC member economies.

And in a symbolic gesture, Chang was permitted to fly to Vietnam in President Chen's official aircraft, dubbed "Air Force One" by the local news media. Reports here have said that the aircraft, which bears the Republic of China's flag and national symbols, has never been permitted to land in the capital of a foreign country that has no diplomatic relations with us.

After Chang's arrival, his delegation was met by officials from Vietnam's Foreign Ministry and received a police escort as they made their way into the city toward their hotel accommodations.

While the reception still fell short from that normally accorded a visiting head of state, the cordial arrangements symbolized just how much relations between Taiwan and Vietnam have changed for the better over recent years.

It really was stunning and surprising to see footage of Chang's aircraft landing in Hanoi, since such a scenario was truly unthinkable not very long ago.

During the Vietnam War, Taipei was a staunch ally of the former government of South Vietnam and provided material and logistical support to Saigon.

Shortly before Saigon fell to invading North Vietnamese forces in April of 1975, South Vietnamese President Nguyen Van Thieu personally fled to Taipei, where his younger brother was serving as South Vietnam's ambassador to the ROC, and eventually resettled in Britain.

When South Vietnam collapsed during that fateful month, ROC forces were dispatched to assist with the evacuation of our nationals, many of whom had lived and worked in South Vietnam for many years.

In Taipei, the fall of Saigon was officially trumpeted as a stark warning of what would ultimately happen if Taiwan were to make any sort of compromises in its dealings with the communist government of mainland China.

Large numbers of South Vietnamese who had been studying in Taiwan or visiting at the time of the fall crowded into Saigon's embassy in Taipei in the hopes of getting travel documents or last minute assistance with resettling here or in a third country.

An aircraft belonging to the defunct South Vietnamese airline sat abandoned for several days at the Sungshan Airport, and eventually was handed over to a domestic airline here in Taiwan.

After Saigon fell and South Vietnam was annexed by North Vietnam, authorities in Hanoi began persecuting ethnic Chinese in the country and large numbers of them fled, including many refugees who made their way to Taiwan.

Things got even worse after the events of late 1978 and early 1979, when Vietnam invaded and occupied Cambodia, triggering mainland China's brief "war of punishment" against Vietnam.

After reaching rock-bottom, ties began to rapidly turn for the better after the Vietnamese government adopted mainland Chinese-style economic reforms in the mid-1980s.

Starting around that time, Vietnam changed its policies and began welcoming foreign investors, including Taiwanese businesspeople who had extensive experience in labor-intensive exporting industries.

While Vietnam's communist government has since renewed its friendship with Beijing, Hanoi has opened unofficial relations with our government much in the same way that other countries of Southeast Asia deal with us.

Today, Taiwan has become Vietnam's largest source of foreign investment capital, with an estimated US$8 billion sunk into mostly labor-intensive manufacturing industries.

In recent years, officials and entrepreneurs from Taiwan have shared their experience with Vietnamese counterparts in operating export processing zones and formulating policies conducive to economic growth.

Taiwanese investment in Vietnam is widely expected to grow after Vietnam becomes a member of the World Trade Organization.

While ties between Taipei and Hanoi remain unofficial, it could easily be argued that relations have never been better.

That is most likely the reason why Hanoi managed to shrug off Beijing's demands and permit Chang to arrive in the presidential jet and take full part in the APEC summit.

According to reports published in Taiwan, Beijing had initially believed it could stongarm Vietnam into completely banning Taiwan from participating in any of the APEC events this year.

We are grateful that Hanoi was able to overcome this pressure and note that our treatment has been commensurate with the warm state of unofficial relations between our two countries.

As far as I'm concerned they're all Chinese, it doesn't matter which side VietNam go for, they're all the same.

if china get the whole taiwan, they will become a big country in the world. may be rate in #3.
taiwan get independent.?
Tibet get independent also.?
mongolian get their half part from china also.?

Vietnam is balancing the PRC, Taiwan and the US. No point in sticking for Taiwan, who would most likely leave us in the lurch if and when the PRC comes after us. We do our own fighting. Let the Taiwanese do theirs. In addition, I take it personally when Taiwanese employers mistreat Vietnbamese staff and Taiwanese lonehy hearts game our marriage laws. We do business with them, but they haven't said or done anything that warrants a closer relationship.

i hate reading long texts it feels like reading the bible

Those scenarios are unlikely to happen from my point of view. Under the banner of the "War on Terror", the PRC could deal with the independent aspirations of those areas, without much attention from the U.S.

No, I don't think Viet Nam encourage Taiwan to go against China. If Taiwan wants to secede from China, it ain't our problem or care. The only thing we care about is good economic relations with both. The Taiwanese or Tibetans wants their independence, then stop being a pussy and actually do something about it like my people throughout history.

here is a example,
Soviet Union is a very big nation and supper power country. but,
now, look at Russia, verything go down. they get weak than before.


Tibetan is a different in ethnics.

Việt Nam cần quái gì mà phải quan tâm đến Đài Loan. Nó chỉ là một đất nước bé tí tẹo như ngọn lông chân của Trung Quốc. Người Đài Loan thì hoặc chuyên ăn bám Trung Quốc, hoặc chuyên ăn bám Nhật Bản.

Đất nước thì bé như cái lỗ mũi mà họ dám coi người Việt không ra gì. Ít nhất người Trung Quốc nếu có khinh người Việt thì họ cũng không khinh ra mặt như cái bọn Đài Loan. Đấy là còn chưa nói đến việc Trung Quốc có hơn một tỉ người.

Taiwan chắc bị nhiễm cái "Inferiority Complex" ở đâu đấy.

Vietnam doesn't have the means to assist Taiwan.

But a Taiwan that is not yet taken over by the PRC is in Vietnam's strategic interest, since if China concentrates its military on Taiwan, then it will keep less watch on Vietnam.

To be honest, I don't give a crap about the Chinese. If Taiwan wants to bomb China, go ahead. Just leave us out of it.

very difficult to give a good answer when your sig include a pic of a hong kong girl next to a singaporean like that .

my friend, they all Japanese of my picture in the sig.

Which idiot even said that we would be in of this?

chinese and taiwanese are the same evil bastards. we should never trust a chinese. period.

I support China to overtake Taiwan by force.

i don't care

I do think the Vietnam war did prompt alot of countries to battle their independence from then on, funny this topic, I've got an acoustic guitar made from Taiwan-Republic of China in the 1960s, don't mind their independence but do mind when they deny where they came from like Japan and other countries.

Taiwanese are from Chinese nationalists [these people may has little Japanese ancestry, but not much] & Aboriginal living there. They are not Japanese. But I think that all of them admire Japanese very much, sometimes like demi-gods.

China should take over Taiwan. Then it should create a Small Leap Forward & a Cultural Semi-revolution in Taiwan.

I think sticking with the status quo is good for all sides, with Taiwan keeping its democratic system.

I dunno why its so hard for some people to exceot that chinese are chinese no matter what gov they rep!

You need to make a distinction between ethnicity, culture and citizenship. A second generation Chinese American would be Chinese by ethnicity, culturally Chinese at home (usually) and culturally American when he or she interacts with others, and of course American by citizenship. I myself am Vietnamese by ethnicity, culturally Vietnamese at home and American when I interact with other Americans, and American by citizenship (I was born in France, so I originally had dual French and Vietnamese citizenships).

The Singaporeans and the Taiwanese might be ethnic Chinese and they might be culturally Chinese, but they may also have absolutely no desire to be absorbed into the PRC. And they might be willing to do do everything they can think of including fighting to avoid that fate.