Does Japan wish to be the master of asia again? Or it is satisfied with its current status? Recently japan is upgrading its Self Defense Forces and thinking about acquring nukes. Something going on with the recent moves?

they know aliens are coming

Any country naturally wants to become powerful. Too bad for them, Koizumi isolated Japan from the rest of Asia. Therefore, Japan won't be the dominant player in Asia for a long long time.

China has a greater foreign policy. China is gaining more and more influence on every single continent. Japan on the other hand is focused on NK like a laser beam while ignoring everything else.

Exactly.

Why is Japan so focused on North Korea? China and South Korea would have to worry about a max influx of refugees for instance if any $hit happens in N. Korea, they have a very volatile neighbor right on their doorstep.

Japan is so focused on NK because it offers an excuse to shed its pacifist constitution. Which is why I think China needs to kill Kim Jung Ill.

Pretty lame excuse of course.

Stop NK developing Nuclear power and avoid any excuse for Japan to expand her military force.

China is so great and powerful thats why its so scared of a little island off its coast

yeah china believes that confucius will fly over the sky like superman and save them..

Although they're the biggest distributor of porn in the world, but they're a very ambitious people.

No , they want to be Masters of the Universe!

" Hi I'm Abe, prime minister of Japan and soon all of Asia. This is my fearless friend Yamamoto. Fabulous secret powers wll reveal to me the day I shoot off my mouth and say, 'By the powers of the extreme right!!...I have the power...' Yamamoto becomes the mighty arm chair general and I became Shinzo Abe the most annoying but powerful man in Asia. Only three others know of my plans, our friends the US, S korea and India. Together we defend our sphere of influence from the evil forces of Chinas..."

Chen Shui Bian: "What about meeeeeeeeeeeeeee??!?! "

bukake us all...

If Japan is leader of Asia they would probably make everyone commit suicide,

Personally, I don't mind the Japan remilitarization at all. In fact, I think this is a very positive step and one that will ultimately HURT American influence in the Pacific.

Japan is an ally of the United States, but such an alliance is an unnatural one. Really it boils down to a defensive alliance against China (NK is just a poor proxy). But China is not the USSR and it has no inherent issues against Japan. Given time, alliances will shift. Most Japanese may despise the idea of being allied with China, but time changes opinions, especially over the course of decades. Ultimately, Japan will become China's strongest ally, allowing Japan to achieve Asian control over the Pacific, the dream for which the Japanese fought and lost in the Pacific War.

Stop daydreaming. With the way the situation is unfolding, China and Japan will be even worse off in the future. Decades have passed since World War II, but the anti-Japanese sentiments among Chinese and anti-Chinese sentiments among Japanese are actually rising and creating tensions among each other.

Would you bet your life on that?

to create unlimitless porn and become a pornographic country

Japanese porn is weird though

You can take that one to the bank. Want proof? Just go out to a crowded square in Beijing and yell, "THE JAPANESE ARE COCKSUCKS" in Chinese and hundreds will form up an angry mob to rally behind that statement, all the while mobbing on anyone owning Japanese products, including their fellow Chinese.

Hell, where's that video of the Chinese protesters smashing a Japanese-made car with Chinese woman driving it? The poor girl was crying, too, while some moron in the background went off to yell out, "The money you've bought the car from fed the Japanese" or something along that line.

Hu: "come on you bloody small fu-ks, i will show you the power of china and take over the whole world. just you see i will make sure all of your balls drop muaahahahha! lets so USSR, my bro!

Nambaryn Enkhbayar: i want to kill china too! lemme join! i'll help you!

Japan is a chess piece for US, /wo US backing, Japan doesn't stand much chance against China militarily.

think about it, Japan is island country, which depends on foreign resources and look the sea lanes of the ship
all come from South China Sea and bring it up northward to japan.

That's a huge vulnerabilty there. it depend on the US navy to protect their ship lanes if in war.
so this by itself already determines it can't be any superpower in asia.

and the reason why japan is adamant about protecting taiwan is again their ship lanes are just east of taiwan. They just have too many geogrpahic and strategic vulnerability.

And china soon would field their new carrier group,push their presence down south china sea.
Ships to taiwan, japan, south korea all have to come through south china sea. That's the choke point.

bush: nevermind about south china sea, we will work together and sink all the china-men's ships!

That sounds like a meaningless shout or slogan. no substance and effective soultions.

I telling you japan is very very faraway from south china sea and the US forces concentrate in guam and japan south korea. It's nearly impossible to defend the ship lanes in times of war in south china sea.

take a look at the map, from japan to southern part of philippine is already taken 4 to 5 fours by planes. let alone by ship. japan and US have no military base there in south china sea. after US left the subic base on phillipines. so you do the math.


why do you think china putting number one prioirty on their navy list, submarine? right now, they starting the hai nan dow as the key base for nuclear attack submarines and super quiet diesel kilo class submarines.

china realize in their northern and eastern sea they are blocked by japan-US influences. thye can't move there. So once the air craft carrier done in quindao, it will move to the southern seas fleet . over there in south china sea it's completely open.

In times of war, I am telling you. the ships through malacca and going through south china sea can be completely interrupt by chinese subs.

japan remilitarization is going to do jack. why? geographic they in very bad location and depend heavily for outside resources. so it put them tremendous vulnerable position even if they have superior weapons, which now very debatable.

For example, /w the china self-make J-10 third generation air fighter, which is very sigficant, yes they already master the turbojet engine techonology, that's tremendou.
self-make mean they can produce cheap. no interrupt of supply when in war.

look at japan, all the aircraft like f-16 and f-15 come from US. J-10 can made /w 20 million dollar but a f-15 would cost 60 million, holy macaro! besides f-16 f-15 are not superior to J-10.

In order to defeat J-10 decisively, Japan need the lastest US fighter F-22 raptor, do you how much it cost
2 billion dollar each, holy toledo! Japan can't afford it. actually, US want to sell to japan the F-22 but japan propose to produce domestically so they want to know the secret of the raptor!!

of course US is not going to compromise their number one tech right now even to their allies. So, they said NO WAY to Japan trying to learn the F-22 secrets. So No Deal.

Chinese subs are going to be very hard-pressed to stop all of the 688i, Virginias and Seawolves, and won't be available for proper "carrier hunting".



First off, if the U.S. feels that they need to hold on to the territory, then they will do so with any means necessary. Look at how they held on to Guadalcanal in World War II, not to mention West Berlin during the Soviet's blockade. If they can't supply Japan by sea, then they will do it by air, of which China has virtually no defense against out that far in the Pacific.

Will J-10 be superior to first- and second-generation F-16's and F-15's? Yes. But against newer F-16 Block 52's and modernized F-15C's? Definitely not. I really wouldn't want to be flying a J-10 against a modernized F-16's or F-15C's armed with the latest AMRAAMs.

Also, a F-22A doesn't cost $2 billion. You are most likely confusing the term with 200 million, which translates into 0.2 billion since one billion equals to one-thousand million. And even then a Raptor doesn't cost $200 million, either. Currently, a F-22A costs $120 million, and that's not accounting for mass-production levels and foreign exports, which will surely bring down the cost in the future.



I wouldn't be surprised to find F-22A being offered for sale shortly after F-35 goes on sale, which is about four more years from now.

what? the US already approached Japan to sell the raptors cause they want makeup for low numbers the US government ordered.
Japan complained the highcost and counteroffer to US that if they can license produce the raptors in japan to reduce the cost. Of course, the US turned it down. They not going to allow somebody to license produce
the raptors. So, it's no deal. Japan is already offered to purchase the raptors.





what terriotory you talking about? US has no base in south china sea.
yeah, US subs are superior. but in times of war, do you think they could protect all the sea lanes and merchant ships? lol

besides, the us subs are operating alone in that region, unless you bring the whole carrier group to south china sea. but that's going to be costly.

econocmically, China currently holds 1.5 trillion US dollar reserves. now how about if china dump the dollar and sell its US treasury and convert everything to euro.
It's going to bring US economy a quick recession. you think they can handle that.

man , the current us govenemnt is so overstretch and so such in debt. Look at the iraq and afghan wars who's funding the US operation. CHina is one of the big creditor. buying so much bonds and lowering the interest rate. if china is buying the us treasury bills and convert to euro. You think Japan can absorb all those
. No way Jose. WHo's going to lend the credit to allow the US to continue its military expense.
they are already heading finanical trouble.

What you are saying doesn't even make sense. U.S. isn't willing to let its allies know the "secrets" of the F-22A all the while they are willing to license and sell the F-35 in about four years, which are based on more or less the same technology? You gotta be kidding me.



Read my previous post again and you will know that I'm talking about Japan, which you've mentioned beforehand how it is very vulnerable to blockades by China. I haven't even mentioned anything about South China sea.



The same applies to China trying to choke off Japan in times of war to prevent the U.S. military from using it as a rally point. Do you really think that the Chinese subs can prevent every little ships that go in and out of Japan's ports? Hardly. Japan also has a submarine fleet with considerable size. Let them, the Japanese subs, protect the territory, the Japanese mainland and ports, while the U.S. subs simply escort the merchant ships while the rest of them simply go and set up shop at China's back door.

Also, you don't use submarines for going after every tiny little things. Submarines are strategic assets, and used against targets that represent the most value to the enemy and threat to the friendly forces.



No, it's not going to be costly. The USN operates all of its carriers and its carrier groups around the clock, war time or not, unless the ships are being replenished and/or repaired at the docks.



The U.S. can simply freeze the currency in case of a national emergency, and actually use that against China by not letting the Chinese dump all the Dollars for Euro, while simply pulling its own companies and investors out of China to prevent any more money flowing into the country.

while you made some sense militarily, but judging from what you wrote uptop, you have no clue how the economy work at all.
freeze the currency?? you know what, the US depend on the exporting their devalued dollar to other countries to keep the country afloat. That's what it's the petrodollar policy is all about.
bush is defending it in iraq because sadamm is trying to bypass the dollar and not using the dollar for selling the oil. same for iran.

why the gas in US so cheap compare to others because uncle sam is printing those devalued us dollar and export to the world.
freezing the dollars? who's finance their military operations?
maybe something like this, US, to Japan, and taiwan, hey, I need money to operate. now china is buying those bonds, you guys have to pick up the load. so you guys have to pay up and finance the war.
you think japan and taiwan can pick the load??

not allow to dump the dollar?? I have big trouble from refraining laughing at this.
man, the currency is at the world market, it's beyond the US control. you can't prevent someone from dumping the dollar. It doesn't work that way. It's not the US military camp.

Seriously, you should take some economic classes first.

This doesn't have anything to do with economics at all. The thing is that the European Union has closer ties with U.S. than China. The Americans helped Europe out with two World Wars, and don't you think Europe will be able to pay back the debt? Oh, sure, the French will love to see the Dollars switched into Euro, but as for the rest of the Europeans countries, it's better for them to side with the U.S. than China. It's obviously going to be more destabilizing for them, too, should the U.S. go down instead of China because of all the shared markets that existed for decades between the U.S. and Europe, whereas Europe is only more or less beginning to take first steps getting into the Chinese market and hence the lower risk.

Seriously, you should consider to take some lessons in history classes first, let alone study about warfare before going off to post all the bullsh!t technical crap that you've done.

their ambition is to invite all the white people in the world to their country and have sex with their women so they can finally become the caucasian race they;re masturbating to

hahha this is even better then the:



lol

Some people... I won't say who, seem to not have an understanding of basic politics.

It is one thing what the masses of your nation feels and an entirely different matter with respect to what the geopolitical situation, which is largely based on strategic interests and economic necessities.

Alliances between nations that didn't get a long for cultural historical reasons are common in human history, especially in the modern period.

Strategic and economic interest supercede all cultural/historical divisions.

With that being said. The Japanese situation is quite simple:
Right now they have little to fear militarily from the Chinese. With Taiwan, South Korea and Guam in US hands, the Chinese are hemmed in. But as soon as Taiwan is reunified, that ring around China collapses. This is why the US has openly declared its intent to defend Taiwan if necesary. And if Taiwan falls, Japan and South Korea's position as US allies becomes untenable, that is unless the Japanese and South Koreans seriously believe that the US can keep them alive once their trade routes to the rest of the world are cut.

Shakes head sadly at the juvenile discourse on this thread.

i'm just spouting out rubbish.. can't you tell

Relax , our Han people will keep them in check

Europe does not pay debts. Not even the Nazis, they paid pitiful $hit to the Jews Poles East Europeans and Russians when their economy witnessed 1700% growth after the war.

No... china is not evil, they just think that every other country is their enemy

You could have said the same sort of thing for England and France not too long ago or France and Germany. The bottom line is: blood is thicker than water. No matter how insane the Japanese may be, they have no illusions about who is their closer kin, the Chinese or the Americans. Right now the Japanese PM is an idiot because he's thrown his chips in with the losing power. Just as it did in WWII when it tossed its lot in with Germany, Japan will suffer yet another hard learned lesson if it continues on its current path with the US. I just hope the rest of the Japanese political world can see things for what they are, especially the US.

The geopolitical situation in East Asia is more like England(Japan), France or Germany(Korea) and the Soviet Union(China).

And Japanese people usually have crooked teeth, as do the English... lol

aww what no ino iv

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Yeah... no, you fail, again. Comparing the USSR to China is like comparing Athens to Sparta. The USSR even in its best years was an economic disaster. Most years they barely had enough food to go around, nevermind other consumer goods.

Then there's the obvious difference of proportion. England and Germany thrown together have a population that was almost half that of the USSR. Not counting Siberians, Germany alone had a larger population. In terms of industrial capacity, the USSR never surpassed Western Europe. The USSR was really nothing more than a hollow shell.

China's population and potential industrial capacity dwarfs that of the rest of Asia by many fold. And of course China has a more than viable economy, the fastest growing one in world history bar none.

So yeah, you fail, go drown your woes in a nice dish of kimchee with grilled beef.

I see nothing wrong with japan defending itself. Not to mention the chinese have nukes and are building their army. Japan should do the same. It would not be logical to do otherwise.

Japanese guy is disgusting, always pretend to be the victims in World World II, but never admit that thier criminals over Asian.

Logically yes you are right. Reality? You can't Americans defeated you and now you can't. What goes around come around.

i think they are satisfied being under the thumbs of americans. seriously, america offers them military protection which is insanely hard to do, as well as providing technology. nobody stands a chance against the best military in the world (USA) so no one will mess with japan as long as USA have bases there.

It isnt a matter of being "satisfied" many japanese politicians in the past simply did not see any other way. This seems tobe slowly but surely changing. Even so there is still a way to go for true japanese independence.

Japan is not a little Island. it is a group of Islands of a mix of Japanese and non-Japanese people (Ryukyuan and Ainu) that about the size of California and about half the population as that of the United States.

Spitting out many metrosexual guys as possible through Americanism.