dalawapo
Jun 22 2004, 04:41 AM
I would like to know if the Spanish surnames Filipinos adopted are in any way unique from the Spanish surnames generally taken by Spain's other colonial inhabitants in the Americas?
And what was the method of adopting Filipino surnames, based on saints, etc?
Can you recognize a Filipino between a Hispanic in a list of their names?
(probably their first name would give you a hint, right?) but that is another topic all together..
flipcombatmedic
Jun 22 2004, 04:56 AM
many filipinos back in the days got their names from spanish saint's, your right, but it was cuz it was the name of the town they ere from. also when the spanish were tired of not being able to track and read the names of filipinos they busted a book, and handed them out to officials to give to filipinos to adopt. the funny thing was the thing was in alphabetical orer that is why most names from one side is mostly starting from b c n etc. but many tribes practice what many indonesians today do, no family or surnames, just their personal name. also some of the names were given to the loyal and approved nobility, whom have served the spanish well and have gained their favor, so they get to keep the names they got initially when the spanish came. names were restricted to simple words in spanish and they were not allowed to use spanish nobility names like hidalgo, except maybe later on when intermarriages happened.
juan dela cruz is john smith version of teh filipino, but i don't think that this name is still continuing to grow, becaue most filipinos are starting to use english and english influenced name. for me i would give my kids traditinal filipino names but there are hardly any ones that i have seen to help me find out which one i coiuld pick from, yah i know it's really sad, but thats what 300 years do to the society but i still pick spanish name before english for my kids. it just sound more filipino to me.
BishoujoHunter
Jun 22 2004, 05:06 AM
Some chinese-filipinos changed their surnames to spanish
halohalo
Jun 22 2004, 05:49 AM
QUOTE (BishoujoHunter @ Jun 22 2004, 06:06 AM)
Some chinese-filipinos changed their surnames to spanish
yah i tink similar 2 my dad's family (?) i tink, i dunnoz. and dey also lent der family name 2 anoder chinese family who wanted 2 adopt a spanish surname. dats wat my dad told me anyways.
Ek-ek
Jun 22 2004, 09:27 PM
Chuanico, Chanchico, Cua, Cojuango, Uytingco, Coyuito, Tanhuatco, Coo, Golamco, Jayoma etc............... are some examples of Chinese surnames changed into Hispanized words.
redhotchili
Jun 26 2004, 09:09 AM
^cojuangco is a name that incorporated many different chinese names. cojuangco=co huang and the "co" at the end means kinship. tuason is another chinese name that was hispanicized. it was originally "son tua" but then the patriarch changed it into tuason, something more spanish-sounding.
the husband of the phil president is a tuason, an old rich chinese family.
i don't think however that the spanish gave us a different surname from their colonies in america. last names such as gutierrez, castro, luna, cruz, etc are pretty common.
Forumwalker
Jun 27 2004, 02:45 AM
rizal, santiago, saldaņa, araneta, valdez, tiongson
redhotchili
Jun 27 2004, 03:05 AM
i think tiongson is a chinese name. or a chinese-mestizo name.
Forumwalker
Jun 27 2004, 04:18 AM
QUOTE (redhotchili @ Jun 27 2004, 06:05 PM)
i think tiongson is a chinese name. or a chinese-mestizo name.
it is.

most of them in iloilo. probably changed their name during the spanish era when chinese revolts were common. or probably during japanese era.
redhotchili
Jun 27 2004, 07:45 AM
ah.. i see. my physics teacher is named tiongson. she's a kastila though, imported from spain. her husband is the tiongson and i saw his pic and he's chinese-looking that's why.
Ek-ek
Jun 27 2004, 08:45 PM
Batungbalkal
poknat
Jun 27 2004, 11:06 PM
I have several classmates which had a surname called Batungbakal.
dalawapo
Jun 28 2004, 12:42 AM
i have a native malay last name and a native malay second middle name! LOL
BatangDamo
Jun 28 2004, 12:45 AM
My sis has a teacher whos last name is "Labatete".
BatangDamo
Jun 28 2004, 12:47 AM
i got "Fernandez" from my mom's and "Beltran" from my dad's, both non-malay....
dalawapo
Jun 28 2004, 12:58 AM
I would like to know if Filipinos are proud to have native last names? Are they ridiculed by the ones with hispanic surnames?

or is it admired and respected to have a last name that is native?
halohalo
Jun 28 2004, 01:06 AM
Isn't Macapagal a native Malay name?
BatangDamo
Jun 28 2004, 01:07 AM
QUOTE (halohalo @ Jun 28 2004, 02:06 AM)
Isn't Macapagal a native Malay name?
yes, i think so
flipcombatmedic
Jun 28 2004, 05:30 AM
there were alot of hagedorns and jaworskis, they were german emigres. and some frechy mestizo last name that i forgot that my old friend from pi had.
Forumwalker
Jun 28 2004, 07:11 AM
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Jun 28 2004, 03:58 PM)
I would like to know if Filipinos are proud to have native last names? Are they ridiculed by the ones with hispanic surnames?

or is it admired and respected to have a last name that is native?

of course people are proud of their last name regardless of origin.. although some native last names are too literal or taken literally i.e. Batungbakal* meaning "Iron Stone?"..
*i did not mean to offend anyone here with that name.. im just citing it as an example.
other family names:
Depasupil - if you translate it, it means "Won't allow defeat"
Dimaano - "cannot be harmed" if translated in ilonggo as in DI meaning "cannot" and Ma-ano as in "Be harmed"
redhotchili
Jun 29 2004, 03:48 AM
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Jun 28 2004, 02:58 PM)
I would like to know if Filipinos are proud to have native last names? Are they ridiculed by the ones with hispanic surnames?

or is it admired and respected to have a last name that is native?

i can't speak for a lot of filipinos but yes, i'm proud of my last name. it's very unusual. i've never met a person having the same name as mine. and if ever that happens, it's most likely that he/she is a distant relative. it also has its perks, like when i got my clearance in NBI (national bureau of investigation) i didn't have to wait long because apparently i don't have a namesake in their records. so it's cool.
if you're asking whether or not they're respected, i say that it depends on the person and not on his/her name. and no, we're not ridiculed by those having spanish surnames.
maogmang_aki
Jun 29 2004, 04:38 AM
Heck, my surname is the same as the name as a whole village in spain! Caceres! hehehe
other surnames i know like Buncudin, Matamorosa, Bron, Alabastro, Templonuevo, Bolival, Alcantara, Realubit, Fabricante, Labordo, Tumbado, Libreja, Arcilla, Odiada, Dionela, Infante, Murillo, Musa, Ignao, Salvamante, Collao, Sumido, Mino, Baer, Abasola, Sabroso, Abad, Yater, Miranda, Moran, Pangilinan, Equizabal, Dimaiwat, Alto, oh, and a lot more. Some are obviously hispanicized like the Templonuevo, Libreja, some are more native-sounding Dimaiwat, Buncudin... and yes, it all depends on the persons if they are proud of their name, then, they are mostly respected, if they are not, they are usually the butt of jokes... but as always, we Pinoys can take jokes and give as good as we get!!!
flipcombatmedic
Jun 29 2004, 05:24 AM
i'm proud of my spanish last name just cuz it's mine, and generations before me, and it mark me as filipino.
i got a friend from the army and his last name was tapang, i was like your name fit your job man.
halohalo
Jun 29 2004, 06:45 AM
QUOTE (redhotchili @ Jun 29 2004, 04:48 AM)
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Jun 28 2004, 02:58 PM)
I would like to know if Filipinos are proud to have native last names? Are they ridiculed by the ones with hispanic surnames?

or is it admired and respected to have a last name that is native?

i can't speak for a lot of filipinos but yes, i'm proud of my last name. it's very unusual. i've never met a person having the same name as mine. and if ever that happens, it's most likely that he/she is a distant relative. it also has its perks, like when i got my clearance in NBI (national bureau of investigation) i didn't have to wait long because apparently i don't have a namesake in their records. so it's cool.
if you're asking whether or not they're respected, i say that it depends on the person and not on his/her name. and no, we're not ridiculed by those having spanish surnames.
yeah my last name is pretty unusual. In the whole of Australia I think my family and I are the only ones with that surname, or the whole of sydney at least.
kim_kayie
Jun 29 2004, 10:06 AM
QUOTE (maogmang_aki @ Jun 29 2004, 05:38 AM)
Heck, my surname is the same as the name as a whole village in spain! Caceres! hehehe
it was my college professor's surname....
ohhhh i miss him!!!!
bka father mo na pla sya...hehehe
JMAC
Jun 29 2004, 10:28 AM
I checked out the site (origin of Filipino names) and mine doesn't have any details on it
Sedges
Jun 29 2004, 01:48 PM
Apparently my Mother's last name is a 12th century Spanish one (Flores)... Ah well, still a cool name

hehe
Fil-Am
Jun 29 2004, 02:15 PM
Im proud of my spanish last name, Aventino. Though my middle name which is native malay gets ridiculed alot so I don't tell anybody here in the states. Maybe because they can't say it correctly?
maogmang_aki
Jun 29 2004, 08:55 PM
QUOTE (kim_kayie @ Jun 29 2004, 11:06 AM)
it was my college professor's surname....
ohhhh i miss him!!!!
bka father mo na pla sya...hehehe

sorry to tell you no he can't be hihihihi.. even i haven't met my dad coz he died a few months after i was born...
Ek-ek
Jun 30 2004, 12:39 PM
QUOTE (Fil-Am @ Jun 30 2004, 04:15 AM)
Im proud of my spanish last name, Aventino. Though my middle name which is native malay gets ridiculed alot so I don't tell anybody here in the states. Maybe because they can't say it correctly?


What was your middle name?
Fil-Am
Jun 30 2004, 12:40 PM
QUOTE (Ek-ek @ Jun 30 2004, 01:39 PM)
QUOTE (Fil-Am @ Jun 30 2004, 04:15 AM)
Im proud of my spanish last name, Aventino. Though my middle name which is native malay gets ridiculed alot so I don't tell anybody here in the states. Maybe because they can't say it correctly?


What was your middle name?
I will PM you my middle name.
Ek-ek
Jun 30 2004, 12:57 PM
ok!
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