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*SallyBowles*
Well I think it's a good thing that this is being brought to light. Following Spain's example, some countries are banning super skinny models from the runway. And another wanna-be model died in Brazil from anorexia a few days ago I think, and that's already having repurcussions in the fashion industry.

Anyway I do think that it has to do with height. Most shorter women don't look skeletal at size zero. The thing is that models have to be tall, at least 5' 8" or 5' 9". Something like 5' 4" is considered too short to be a runway model. So what you have for runway models are tall women that are a size zero, and imo that looks terrible. And I really don't understand the mentality behind that because when these women are modeling the clothes, it looks like the clothes still draped on a hanger. The models look like human clothes hangers. icon_neutral.gif
Tami
QUOTE(*SallyBowles* @ Jan 11 2007, 04:51 PM) [snapback]2643203[/snapback]

And I really don't understand the mentality behind that because when these women are modeling the clothes, it looks like the clothes still draped on a hanger. The models look like human clothes hangers. icon_neutral.gif

That's the entire point. It's not supposed to be about the models or their bodies, it's supposed to be about the clothes.
*SallyBowles*
QUOTE(Tami @ Jan 11 2007, 04:56 PM) [snapback]2643216[/snapback]

That's the entire point. It's not supposed to be about the models or their bodies, it's supposed to be about the clothes.


But the thing is that you can't really tell what the clothes themselves look like because of the way that they're hanging off the models. If I were a designer I would want my clothes to be displayed so they could look as best as possible and that really can't be achieved if they're being draped over a hanger.
Tami
QUOTE(*SallyBowles* @ Jan 11 2007, 05:14 PM) [snapback]2643272[/snapback]

But the thing is that you can't really tell what the clothes themselves look like because of the way that they're hanging off the models. If I were a designer I would want my clothes to be displayed so they could look as best as possible and that really can't be achieved if they're being draped over a hanger.

Well, if you were a designer for the runway, you'd know that you're not really selling your clothes. You're just selling the details in the designs and innovation, which would probably get overlooked if you put it on a model that had a more conventionally attractive body. You're also not marketing to the normal masses, so appealing to them is pointless. Most runway designs are not prêt-à-porter.
GawtxJenny
the first one and nicole richie look super skinny ewww they need to eat at mickey d's
*SallyBowles*
QUOTE(Tami @ Jan 11 2007, 05:31 PM) [snapback]2643336[/snapback]

Well, if you were a designer for the runway, you'd know that you're not really selling your clothes. You're just selling the details in the designs and innovation, which would probably get overlooked if you put it on a model that had a more conventionally attractive body. You're also not marketing to the normal masses, so appealing to them is pointless. Most runway designs are not prêt-à-porter.


Putting clothes on a fuller body would make the clothes themselves look better and show off the details better. And also the issue is not about the fact that they're not marketing to the normal masses and therefore they don't have to appeal to them, it's much more serious than that. The issue is about not endangering the health of their models in showing off their designs. If they don't want a conventional looking body, they could show off their designs and not endanger the health of women by having them be at an unnatural and unhealthy weight for their height, and looking like they were just liberated from a nazi concentration camp. They could acheive the same effect by placing a bunch of clothes hangers on a moveable ramp along the runway. Or they could construct mannequins out of sticks and place them on a moveable ramp and get the same effect.
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Nicole is meatier now, she gained some pounds
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charlee
QUOTE(- Nosferatu - @ Jan 12 2007, 12:09 AM) [snapback]2643460[/snapback]

Nicole is meatier now, she gained some pounds.

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Still looks real skinny. I could break her arms in an instant.
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QUOTE(charlee @ Jan 11 2007, 04:13 PM) [snapback]2643471[/snapback]

Still looks real skinny. I could break her arms in an instant.

SHe's only 5'2"

Gaining too much too fast, will only make her look really fat
charlee
QUOTE(- Nosferatu - @ Jan 12 2007, 12:16 AM) [snapback]2643486[/snapback]

SHe's only 5'2"

Gaining too much too fast, will only make her look really fat


....the fatter she is the better I feel.... embarassedlaugh.gif
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and later she'll be criticized about she's having eating problem icon_confused.gif

Sucks being her

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BlueAway
QUOTE(- Nosferatu - @ Jan 11 2007, 06:23 PM) [snapback]2643512[/snapback]

and later she'll be criticized about she's having eating problem icon_confused.gif

Sucks being her

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Tami
QUOTE(*SallyBowles* @ Jan 11 2007, 06:01 PM) [snapback]2643435[/snapback]

Putting clothes on a fuller body would make the clothes themselves look better and show off the details better. And also the issue is not about the fact that they're not marketing to the normal masses and therefore they don't have to appeal to them, it's much more serious than that. The issue is about not endangering the health of their models in showing off their designs. If they don't want a conventional looking body, they could show off their designs and not endanger the health of women by having them be at an unnatural and unhealthy weight for their height, and looking like they were just liberated from a nazi concentration camp. They could acheive the same effect by placing a bunch of clothes hangers on a moveable ramp along the runway. Or they could construct mannequins out of sticks and place them on a moveable ramp and get the same effect.

To be honest though, a lot of models aren't in danger. The ones who are however, get more publicity.

I'm not sure how much you know about runway, but biggest and most popular models, like Gemma Ward, Jessica Stam and even Kate Moss (most of the time) don't look unnaturally skinny. They're very thin, yes, but not to the point of emanciation, and their bodies seem to simply be built like that.
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Clothing tends to look more elegant on them because the clothing flows, and there's less jiggle. Jiggle is generally always unattractive and distracting. There's also the fact that designers only make clothes for the runway in sizes 0-2, because that is the size of the mannequins. It would honestly not have the same effect if they were to put the mannequins on a ramp. They lack the general attitude of the models. A good model knows how to adapt to the feeling of the clothing she's wearing.

In the end, it's the women who endanger themselves trying to be something they're not. The problem doesn't lie with the industry necesesaraly, but the women who cannot accept the body they're born with. Could it be fueled by the industry? Possibly, but it has more to do with the self-esteem issues of women, which aren't going anywhere. If they were to embrace fuller women, will that really change anything? Not really, because in the end, people will always find something within themselves to be dissatisfied with if they look.

cherry_tree
^I agree, she's just the right size there. <3 Being skinny makes a face less fat looking and that's the appealing thing about being skinny. fat looking face = thumbsdown.gif
*SallyBowles*
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Clothing tends to look more elegant on them because the clothing flows, and there's less jiggle. Jiggle is generally always unattractive and distracting


Yeah that's true, no jiggle. It would be weird seeing a model with C's or D's jiggling down the runway. embarassedlaugh.gif

I don't think there's anything wrong with models like Gemma Ward, Jessica Stam or Kate Moss, they look good. They're not a size zero though...well Kate Moss is not anymore I don't think. I meant the really boney ones that are tall and a size zero. That imo is very unnatractive, you know, boney shoulders, lanky arms and long boney legs.

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chynagongju
QUOTE(*SallyBowles* @ Jan 14 2007, 07:10 PM) [snapback]2651853[/snapback]

Yeah that's true, no jiggle. It would be weird seeing a model with C's or D's jiggling down the runway. embarassedlaugh.gif

I don't think there's anything wrong with models like Gemma Ward, Jessica Stam or Kate Moss, they look good. They're not a size zero though...well Kate Moss is not anymore I don't think. I meant the really boney ones that are tall and a size zero. That imo is very unnatractive, you know, boney shoulders, lanky arms and long boney legs.

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Uh no. They probably are close to a size 0.

Size 0 doesn't automatically mean boney.
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QUOTE(*SallyBowles* @ Jan 14 2007, 06:10 PM) [snapback]2651853[/snapback]

Yeah that's true, no jiggle. It would be weird seeing a model with C's or D's jiggling down the runway. embarassedlaugh.gif


Victoria's Secret models arent weird nono.gif
charlee
QUOTE(*SallyBowles* @ Jan 15 2007, 02:10 AM) [snapback]2651853[/snapback]

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Those legs just aren't hot...they look too long and weird. >.< Like another set of arms attached to her body with hands instead of feet. icon_redface.gif
*SallyBowles*
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Uh no. They probably are close to a size 0.

Size 0 doesn't automatically mean boney.


Yeah I already said that in another post. Just because someone is a size zero it doesn't mean that they're boney, it depends on their height also. I'm specifically talking about the tall, lanky models here, not everyone that's a size zero. I used to be a size zero not too long ago and I wasn't that boney and lanky, I'm 5'4", not too tall.
Yoona
QUOTE((-_-)--o @ Jan 8 2007, 02:09 AM) [snapback]2633830[/snapback]

i dated a former gymnast and she was size zero. she was rythmic not artistic, so more lean, but she wasn't bone skinny, curvy and size zero.

so not all girls with size zero are bone skinny.


According to wha tyou told last time, you lived wth her for THREE YEARS and fu-kED her almost every single day. I guess sex is one of the greatest exercises which kept her body curvy and size zero. Former gmnast? Haha She might be former GULAE too just like 3k. icon_neutral.gif
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