i think you just read pictures u seem to forget this one came from that site " Srivijaya Empire included the Sulu Archipelago and the Visayas islands (and indeed the latter island group, as well as its population, is named after the empire)"

all i can say to you is you are BOBO!!! ahaha

And why would they even return to the Philippines to settle when their own land was so abundant?? Maybe a few , but not all, because when people settle, they settle not go backwards! Oh, whats this now, NOW YOU ACCEPT WE ALL CAME FROM TAIWANESE ABORIGINES!!!!!!!! Maybe you have hope with your feeble brain after all. Yeah, the Indonesians and malays are also descended fromt he Taiwanese and South Chinese, but now they are more distant, since they are farther away from their starting point, while the Philippines is closer to the starting point. You dont' know jaclk sh*t from genetics other than what ytou just found out. Ungas! Pipi, Tarantado!!!

But was it the original land of the Srivijayan kingdom?? Nope! it said BY THE 12th Century. Only later in it's history, thats what i meant!!!That still makes you dumber by stating that we were all muslims yet those are Buddhist kingdoms. LOL Tarantado!

Now again, I challenge you, what in the Majapahit and Srivijayan cultures is similar to the Philippines??? What?? You were talking about Borneo a while back now you bring up a totally different subject. Retarded to the bone ka talaga ungas! go tell your mom not to send a retarded boy to do a mans job.

why do you keep debating with the guy? all he wants is for you to confirm he looks kastila and then that's it... he can then later gloat and look down on you malay indios and chinese indios because he's lola has blond hair (puti actually) with red searing eyes.

most don't really care where our ninunos came from anyway as long as they can say they've got kastila blood. to hell with negritos, malay, chinese or whatever blood, what's important to them is kastila blood. Me, i don't care whatever blood i have....all i know of is i'm definitely MARTIAN and my blood is blueish-green!

And let some moron teach me about my identity? He could barely understand what the word "aborigine" means yet he has the nerve to debate me about Philippine anthropological topics. You can see he can barely answer any of my many questions pointed at him, yet he keeps coming back like a toilet nugget.

haha, do u even live in philippines? lol coz you are so igonorant of the philippine culture bubu mu talaga haha.

Of course bornens settlers came here and started coastal villages and made trade routes connecting to the Srivijaya Empire and the Majapahit Empire. Ever heard of the world baragay? It is a settlement the word is derived from balangay, the name for the sailboats that originally brought settlers of Malay stock to the Philippines from Borneo. Each boat carried a large family group, and the master of the boat retained power as leader, or datu, of the village established by his family.

Learn more about philppine history dumb retartd before you rant weird unproven $hit! :P haha

to add in iloilo we have the paraw festival these are the boats used by malay settlers back in pre-spanish times.. lol lol i bet u need to enroll in elemetary philippine history class for you to be aware of our culture. haha ignorant dumbass!

well, if it's entertaining you, so be it.

It's funny to me how non of you ever back down. Lol.

Do I need to live in the Phil. to know my history?? NO! But living outside the country gave me access to the internet(something you take for granted), books, a REAL EDUCATION and the REAL truth about Filipinos. As far as I'm concerned, the word barangay does not conform to the Malay/Indonesian word of Kampung for village as it has always been. Go learn more Etymology before you start talking out of your anus again, pussyface.

So what is it then? Paraw or Balangay? That does not even prove a point, but rather proves how ignorant you are of beliving a myth founded by some loser in IloIlo 70-80 years ago and your own ignorance of the words that you use. Whose the ignorant dumbass now, mamas boy? LOL

I never back down on these alien fu-ks who don't know $hit about our culture. They grew up not knowing $hit about philippines and it is a shame now how they rant on something they are not a part of like they act like they know way of life here and the culture.

did u read the post above it, why don't quote the one i posted above it? trying to disect info that u don't want to read? did it hit u? lol lol

here let me post it again retard

Of course bornens settlers came here and started coastal villages and made trade routes connecting to the Srivijaya Empire and the Majapahit Empire. Ever heard of the world baragay? It is a settlement the word is derived from balangay, the name for the sailboats that originally brought settlers of Malay stock to the Philippines from Borneo. Each boat carried a large family group, and the master of the boat retained power as leader, or datu, of the village established by his family.

And I never back down on impostors who think they are experts on the culture. I grew up enough to know wat the Philippines is like and never let some loser who just managed to use a computer try and tell me what i should know. it's you who don't know sh*t about our culture and who can't accept your own faults as a student of our culture.

Hey sh*t for brains, you sound like a broken record. Show the proof that they did that AFFECTED THE GENETIC AND CULTURAL MAKEUP OF THE PHILIPPINES on a large scale, then I'll believe you. If not you ccan go fukk yourself, $hitbrained b!tch.

before u go on ranting about philippines culture and history, you need to go back to grade 1 because your mentality is like a grade 1 and you need to study our history from there up to 4th H/S before you act like you know sh!t.

Oh, another question is, why is it that if it were so important to point out the "Malayness" of the Filipinos, why is it that we no longer call our leaders Datu anymore except for the Muslims? Yeah, sure, i should believe someone who only thought that the meaning of the word Aborigines were the blacks of Australia and who admits that he was wrong in assuming that there is such a thing as a Malay race. I'm not stupid unlike your entire family dude.

If they did not affect the cultural why do we celebrate the paraw festival? Wave after wave of settlers settling on the coasts sure does affect the genetic? lol lol they started families they settled in coastal areas made settlements called baragays.
Now i posted what is a baragay up there, and every city in the philippines is disected into baragays!!! just an advice you don't know much about philppines culture and way of life here so dont act like your are MR.expert because your denfinity a retarded idiot!! haha

Oh wow, big words for a kindergarten reject!!! Before you start debating me about Philippine culture, you better go re-study how to talk at least on the 1st grade level. Plus 4th year H/S is very basic stuff and what I'm telling you about our origins is already college stuff. Your talking about highschool sh*t like you know sh*t, but you can't even get to the level of college data. Fukk off and get off my back like the ape you are.

I'm talking about the whole Philippines, but it seems the paraw festival is celebrated in ILoIlo only according to you. And why not cling to the adat system that malays are well known for in regards to basic govt. in the barangays? No s*t the Philippine villages are called barangays @$$hole, now tell me if they are trully Malay and have connections to Malays, we would be calling our villages Kampungs, not Barangays! And don't act a though you are Mr. Teacher, 'coz you are failing to teach anything in here. Retared Pussy! You know nothing of the Philippines even though you live there.

Seriously, you don't know $hit about philippine history if u have studied grade 1 up to high school sibika at kultura you would know better. And of course in college we have philippine history which is History I. I think an elementary kid has far off better knowledge than u, so don't like your expert because u don't know $hit.

it doesn't cost a dime,just to be kind.

Respect.

Yawn! sibika at kultura is probably the only level you ever studied regarding the history and culture. I'm not impressed and I know deep in my bones that the info I used to combat you overwhelemed you and you are just dying to say, why rely on the findings of others, when we have our own history books here. Thats not the way it goes. Obviously, you don't know sh*t about anything. basic crap. It's like telling me, "Oh, look you got hair!" No sh*t sherlock. If a elementary school kid(YOU) has more knowledge than me, it would be called a prodigy, making millions with his/her knowledge rather than sitting behind a computer debating things he has no knowledge or a backbone to accept.

Seriously, you need to go grow a brain and a backbone, because the way you debate is like trying to insult the intelligence of those who have read and are learned. You don't know me faggot, I don't know you, I don't want to, but I sure as hell can tell bullsh*t from truth. You're not even a professor regarding Philippine Prehistory and I was using the writings of the late Jocano Landa the expert in Philippine history and was the first to reject Otley Beyer's theory that the Filipinos are malays. You're a sorry joke for a Filipino dude.

It seem u don't know how to read what an idiot here let me spoon feed it to you again. Barangay It is a settlement the word is derived from balangay, the name for the sailboats that originally brought settlers of Malay stock to the Philippines from Borneo. Each boat carried a large family group, and the master of the boat retained power as leader, or datu, of the village established by his family. They could not call kampungs since it would be too small, just like you could not call City of London to city of new york when the settlers arrived there. Since then they stick with the baragay and not kampungs! Geez even a grade 1 kid would realize that! You too damn retarded man! You need a brain transplant

if read back this retard is one who started trashtalking at i let it slip but he kept on talking $hit he totaly have no manners. I bet he grew up with rednecks

i knoe,but why stoop to his level? you knoe what i am saying? keep it righteous and good things will come. when they say things you dun like. you just need to show dem love in return. no matta what people say,we are all one blood.

You need a brain period! Kampungs emcompass both small and large villages, it has not discriminatory meanings like Arabic. Mind you i studied about Islamic communities so i would know what I;m talking about. No, a grade 1 kid would not realize that, because thats a whole new field of linguistics and how to apply them. Let me force feed you now since you can't seem to get the drift.... now, if you belive the story of the Ten Datus to be so True, answer my questions from before, what exact beach did the forst Datu land on and where are their descendants today. If they were so true, then a mention of a Royal family would have been mentioned about IloIlo in Philippine history. And don't tell me it's because the Spanish killed them off. Since it was the IloIlo inhabitants that had special protection with the Spanish at that time.

I know but i can't that kind of BS it is just sickening to see people forcing they own thoughts and try dominating the filipinos who lives here in this land. They try act like know how things are here and how people think instead of learning to see and hear first before opening their mouth.

Well, i would just probably ignore this fool, and try not debate with someone who acts like he knows better about the culture and history of my country. :P

Nope, it was you that started insulting what i knew in regards to the origins of our people. But no, you didn't Instead you decided to talk as though you knew something, but in fact you don't. You don't know the works I've read and now your talking about respect and not stooping to my level? Please dude. You first need to know the meaning of respect.

you talkin to the wrong guy.

This is not my own thoughts, but what I have studied and read. Oh, and I guess your going to poke fun(like an immature person with no knowledge0 about my knowledge. If you are really mature and a real man, you would look back and think about the possibilities that other scholarly works can provide about the Philippines. Not only what you learned in your elementary school. I think your own attitude as a Filipino in the Philippines is disgusting. Just because you live there, DOES NOT mean you know everything about the country. Your Kababayans in other countries have more resources at their reach to learn about their history. Not you.

You don't have common sense do you? or you just have a little brain. Example in england city of plymouth, town of plymouth, village of plymouth. When they settlers arrived in america they did not call it city, town or village but simply a colony. So same with the settlers that arrived here in philippine they call their colonies baragays but the difference is they stuck to that name instead of chaning it to kampungs.

You are totaly a hopless case man, better stick to what you learn in your country and not try to be a know how on $hit u don't know. lol lol

You're the one with no common sense. Or you have no brain at all. You're the one that needs to go shoot yourself in the brain right now, since theres no cure for your retardation. We are not talking about Plymouth or anything else. The point being is that we are not Malays, we are not really close to Malays, to Borneo, but our close origins and ancestors are from South China and Taiwan. PERIOD! Now if you are so sure about your point of view, I dare you to go debate it with the scholars at UP-Diliman and at other institutions that you can only dream with despair of going to. The word Baragay still does not say that the Filipinos have more in common with Borneo like you claim. Sorry, i can't accept knowledge worth dirt. I would rather listen to the horses mouth than the goat's @$$.

Admit it, you are insulted, not because of some disrespect, but because as a Filipino living in the Philippines, you thought you could teach a Pinoy overseas something that he already knew, but even better that can refute the status quo in Philippine textbooks. Your pride was hurt, since that was all you had and no brain huh?

I consider myself Malay. We are of the same people as Indonesians and Malaysians, and all the other countries in the SouthEast Asian Archipelago. We don't look like the Melanese, only the Negritos do.

we are the same people as gorontalo and manado but not malayic

You can consider yourself Malay all that you want, thats not my problem. To me we are not Malays or Indons. From what I read and studied, I used to think like you, but things change all the time. Thats all about the process of learning, is that you discover newer things all the time. Unfortunately someone in here could not accept that and it's truly a shame. It's just that, Filipinos are still afraid of change and revolutionary ideas(in science and history). I choose to think out of the box in regards to our identity and I just have a problem with people pushing an outdated and questionable idea on me. Especially from a racist and biased person like my opponent implied by insulting the Taiwanese Aborigines and south Chinese who are our true brethren using the word "mongloid" in an insulting way. It's like pissing on our ancestors and on ourselves. The roots support the tree, not it's branches.

it's ok that idiot is not filipino anyway lets just leave the fcker alone he just out for attention he hopes to convince the philippine schools and universties to teach us we are taiwanese aboringes when in fact we have little culture in common with them compared to malayan culture.

Oh, and who are you, the father of the Filipino nation? Are you God? See, your living walking proof that the Filipino youth today are a dumb and arrogant generation. A person who complains that the evidence and proof that I provided is too much to read is in fact limited in the head and doesn't respect knowledge. You're not a Filipino either dude, since according to your words, your a Malay wannabe, so go ahead and convince the Filipino and reputable scholars that they are wrong and you are right. Plus to be truly Filipino is to learn even new ideas to enrich oneself like the past bayanis did. With your kind of attitude, don't be surprised to find yourself cleaning the toilets at Iloilo for the rest of your life. Seems to me you have no life besides your only life on-line. You couldn't even point to how we have more in common with Malayan culture when Malayan culture of the past was diverse and today it is Islamic. Way different than what Filipino culture is today. You make no sense at all and the reason why I treat you the way I did. You deserved it. I wasn't seeking attention, seek attention for what? You spoke bullsh*t first, the spotlight was on you. Good luck motherf*cker on your crooked quest. I'm done here and I'll be the better man and leave this piece of sh*t to his own ignorance and arrogance. I'm better than that.

i would rather stick to my elementary high school and college history than listen to a nutcase like you.

I learned filipino histroy in elementary, H.S. and college and u what have you learned about my culture and history and my people? Your knowledge is just based on google and whatever you think might be interesting.

BTW, i enrolled history 210 this sem i can't wait to tell the history teacher about this encounter with a totaly ingorant idiot on the net.

you are not Malay you are Austronesian.

I would rather trust the scholars beyond your cheap unregistered college education than listen to a arrogant good for nothing maniac like you.

I guess your elementary, HS and college education taught you to be a one sided student too huh? History 210 my butt, you can't even spell right and that tells me something about your so-called education. And to you the internet is not a place for wider and higher ideas, but for playing video games only huh? Stick to your playing of video games and check the reputation of your school before talking again. I'll go and talk to my professor friend about his debate by a dimwit full of pride moron who couldn't accept new facts and was lazy to read scholarly works to prove his point. Good luck, you'll need it!
Peace Mr. Selkies, I mean Scabies.

Your knowledge is just based on google and whatever you think might be interesting. embarassedlaugh.gif

It's not that I think that way, it's what I was taught in the Philippines. It's what the history books say, true that things change over time but right now, I'm sticking with what the scholastic community believes. It's what my Elementary and High School education taught. I may not be an authority on the subject, but my teachers definitely are.

And I respect that bro. I stick to what the academic community also says, not only in the Philippines, but others who do have the expertise. We both have different ways of how we were taught and I do take in consideration your academic upbringing, since you seem to be more open and honest to newer ideas.

Broken down record.

we are taught and study philippine histroy since grade 1 up to college. and you? Did u study philippine history to dictate us of our history and culture?

Let me say it again over and over again "Your knowledge is just based on google and whatever you think might be interesting."

Yeah in fact I did and was also educated outside the Phil. So thats more than double of what you know. Let me say this over and over again that it hurts, you are a tool that adheres to only one side of the story, not a student. Did I say I dictate history? Nope, but you do. If I do get my info on google, it's better than getting it from bubble gum wrappers and fabricated history like you. The hardheaded never learn. BTW you look like a maniac Japanese rapist.

You don't know jack$hit fu-ktard keep acting like know u know Oh and did u have philippine hisotry subjects? All you have is just based on what you find interesting in google and yahoo. You have not been sufficiently educated on our history and culture for you act like you know better than us on our own culture and history i suggest you stick to the culture of where you belong, i bet a grade 1 filipino elementary know better than u about philippines history.

Anyway i get my education about our country's history and culture from our very own country's universty and you get yours from google and yahoo. wtf?!! ahahah