P.S. Let me know if these people are not Hmongs.
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Very old post cards from the Indo-China period. I thought you guys might be interested.
P.S. Let me know if these people are not Hmongs.
P.S. Let me know if these people are not Hmongs.
they dont look hmong..
what are Hmong people supposed to look like?
i know this is a dumb question - but im still gonna ask
i know this is a dumb question - but im still gonna ask
QUOTE (vn1234 @ Jun 23 2004, 04:30 PM)
what are Hmong people supposed to look like?
i know this is a dumb question - but im still gonna ask
i know this is a dumb question - but im still gonna ask
Blonde hair, blue eyes Caucasoid Siberians?
JK JK
wow that mst mean im surrounded by Hmong people in Canada - haha
QUOTE (vn1234 @ Jun 23 2004, 05:30 PM)
what are Hmong people supposed to look like?
i know this is a dumb question - but im still gonna ask
i know this is a dumb question - but im still gonna ask
Asian duh, what you think
Very funny kulong...Back to topic, and no they are not hmong.
QUOTE (IYIiDWeSt_T.S.I3 @ Jun 23 2004, 04:49 PM)
Very funny kulong...Back to topic, and no they are not hmong.
Meant no harm
But seriously though, what makes you so sure that they are not Hmong?
QUOTE (IYIiDWeSt_T.S.I3 @ Jun 23 2004, 03:49 PM)
Asian duh, what you think
Very funny kulong...Back to topic, and no they are not hmong.
Very funny kulong...Back to topic, and no they are not hmong.
that's why i called it a stupid question - but hey i seem to rack up stupid answers - so i guess it balances out - heh!
Anyway, below are a descriptions for each postcard.
1st picture
2nd Picture
Are Maos and Meos different? May be kulong has some inputs in this.
1st picture
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Early Lao Ethnic Card entitled: “Ethnographie Jeunes Gens , Meos Blancs (Hua Pahn).” (Collection Raquez, Laos Séries E Nº 11) Interesting ethnic card showing young Meos in Hua Pahn
2nd Picture
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Laos Ethnic Postcard entitled: Groupe of Maos Very Attractive Ethnic Card
Are Maos and Meos different? May be kulong has some inputs in this.
QUOTE (vn1234 @ Jun 23 2004, 06:06 PM)
QUOTE (IYIiDWeSt_T.S.I3 @ Jun 23 2004, 03:49 PM)
Asian duh, what you think
Very funny kulong...Back to topic, and no they are not hmong.
Very funny kulong...Back to topic, and no they are not hmong.
that's why i called it a stupid question - but hey i seem to rack up stupid answers - so i guess it balances out - heh!
....yea
After reading that postcard infos, meos? yea they are hmong arite, they look different from hmong american and hmong chinese.
and miaos and meos are same people, just different name for them, like in vietnam they call hmong "mong" right? and meo in lao , miao in china , hmong in america ect.
QUOTE (IYIiDWeSt_T.S.I3 @ Jun 23 2004, 05:53 PM)
QUOTE (vn1234 @ Jun 23 2004, 06:06 PM)
QUOTE (IYIiDWeSt_T.S.I3 @ Jun 23 2004, 03:49 PM)
Asian duh, what you think
Very funny kulong...Back to topic, and no they are not hmong.
Very funny kulong...Back to topic, and no they are not hmong.
that's why i called it a stupid question - but hey i seem to rack up stupid answers - so i guess it balances out - heh!
....yea
After reading that postcard infos, meos? yea they are hmong arite, they look different from hmong american and hmong chinese.
and miaos and meos are same people, just different name for them, like in vietnam they call hmong "mong" right? and meo in lao , miao in china , hmong in america ect.
Hell those pictures were more than 100 years old. Off course, they look different from Hmongs in the US and China.
For more information regarding different names of Miao/Hmong, go here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miao
To sum up, the original name of the Miao/Hmong people is "Miao". In Hanzi it's 苗, which means sprout, and it has no negative or deogratory meaning. However, when the Miao migrated to Southeast Asia, the Laotians, among other Southeast Asians, took the sound of the name "Miao" and turned it into "Meo", a deogratory term which sounds like the sound that cats make.
The Miao/Hmong people isn't united. There are various tribes and they all have a name for themselves. Most of them refer themselves as Miao while only 1/4 of the tribes refer themselves as "Hmong". It just so happens that most Miao/Hmongs in the U.S. came from the "Hmong tribe" and therefore they consider themselves Hmong. Not only that, they want ALL Miao/Hmongs to be called Hmongs although Miaos in China consider themselves Miao as the name in Chinese has no deogratory meaning, only in Laotian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miao
To sum up, the original name of the Miao/Hmong people is "Miao". In Hanzi it's 苗, which means sprout, and it has no negative or deogratory meaning. However, when the Miao migrated to Southeast Asia, the Laotians, among other Southeast Asians, took the sound of the name "Miao" and turned it into "Meo", a deogratory term which sounds like the sound that cats make.
The Miao/Hmong people isn't united. There are various tribes and they all have a name for themselves. Most of them refer themselves as Miao while only 1/4 of the tribes refer themselves as "Hmong". It just so happens that most Miao/Hmongs in the U.S. came from the "Hmong tribe" and therefore they consider themselves Hmong. Not only that, they want ALL Miao/Hmongs to be called Hmongs although Miaos in China consider themselves Miao as the name in Chinese has no deogratory meaning, only in Laotian.
QUOTE (Kulong @ Jun 23 2004, 10:31 PM)
For more information regarding different names of Miao/Hmong, go here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miao
To sum up, the original name of the Miao/Hmong people is "Miao". In Hanzi it's 苗, which means sprout, and it has no negative or deogratory meaning. However, when the Miao migrated to Southeast Asia, the Laotians, among other Southeast Asians, took the sound of the name "Miao" and turned it into "Meo", a deogratory term which sounds like the sound that cats make.
The Miao/Hmong people isn't united. There are various tribes and they all have a name for themselves. Most of them refer themselves as Miao while only 1/4 of the tribes refer themselves as "Hmong". It just so happens that most Miao/Hmongs in the U.S. came from the "Hmong tribe" and therefore they consider themselves Hmong. Not only that, they want ALL Miao/Hmongs to be called Hmongs although Miaos in China consider themselves Miao as the name in Chinese has no deogratory meaning, only in Laotian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miao
To sum up, the original name of the Miao/Hmong people is "Miao". In Hanzi it's 苗, which means sprout, and it has no negative or deogratory meaning. However, when the Miao migrated to Southeast Asia, the Laotians, among other Southeast Asians, took the sound of the name "Miao" and turned it into "Meo", a deogratory term which sounds like the sound that cats make.
The Miao/Hmong people isn't united. There are various tribes and they all have a name for themselves. Most of them refer themselves as Miao while only 1/4 of the tribes refer themselves as "Hmong". It just so happens that most Miao/Hmongs in the U.S. came from the "Hmong tribe" and therefore they consider themselves Hmong. Not only that, they want ALL Miao/Hmongs to be called Hmongs although Miaos in China consider themselves Miao as the name in Chinese has no deogratory meaning, only in Laotian.
oh please kulong, i dont think you should be quoting from wikipedia because wikipedia supports all my claims on the relationship between Austronesian peoples:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malay_people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austronesian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwanese_aborigine
IMO, I think we sort of look like the Vietnamese people..I've been mistaken for being Vietnamese...
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Jun 23 2004, 10:30 PM)
QUOTE (Kulong @ Jun 23 2004, 10:31 PM)
For more information regarding different names of Miao/Hmong, go here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miao
To sum up, the original name of the Miao/Hmong people is "Miao". In Hanzi it's 苗, which means sprout, and it has no negative or deogratory meaning. However, when the Miao migrated to Southeast Asia, the Laotians, among other Southeast Asians, took the sound of the name "Miao" and turned it into "Meo", a deogratory term which sounds like the sound that cats make.
The Miao/Hmong people isn't united. There are various tribes and they all have a name for themselves. Most of them refer themselves as Miao while only 1/4 of the tribes refer themselves as "Hmong". It just so happens that most Miao/Hmongs in the U.S. came from the "Hmong tribe" and therefore they consider themselves Hmong. Not only that, they want ALL Miao/Hmongs to be called Hmongs although Miaos in China consider themselves Miao as the name in Chinese has no deogratory meaning, only in Laotian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miao
To sum up, the original name of the Miao/Hmong people is "Miao". In Hanzi it's 苗, which means sprout, and it has no negative or deogratory meaning. However, when the Miao migrated to Southeast Asia, the Laotians, among other Southeast Asians, took the sound of the name "Miao" and turned it into "Meo", a deogratory term which sounds like the sound that cats make.
The Miao/Hmong people isn't united. There are various tribes and they all have a name for themselves. Most of them refer themselves as Miao while only 1/4 of the tribes refer themselves as "Hmong". It just so happens that most Miao/Hmongs in the U.S. came from the "Hmong tribe" and therefore they consider themselves Hmong. Not only that, they want ALL Miao/Hmongs to be called Hmongs although Miaos in China consider themselves Miao as the name in Chinese has no deogratory meaning, only in Laotian.
oh please kulong, i dont think you should be quoting from wikipedia because wikipedia supports all my claims on the relationship between Austronesian peoples:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malay_people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austronesian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwanese_aborigine
I don't care for your pan-Austronesian B.S. That's why I linked it directly to the article about Miao.
Unlike you, just because someone or something presents SOME information I may disagree with, I don't automatically dismiss EVERYTHING that someone or something has to say.
QUOTE (Kulong @ Jun 24 2004, 01:13 AM)
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Jun 23 2004, 10:30 PM)
QUOTE (Kulong @ Jun 23 2004, 10:31 PM)
For more information regarding different names of Miao/Hmong, go here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miao
To sum up, the original name of the Miao/Hmong people is "Miao". In Hanzi it's 苗, which means sprout, and it has no negative or deogratory meaning. However, when the Miao migrated to Southeast Asia, the Laotians, among other Southeast Asians, took the sound of the name "Miao" and turned it into "Meo", a deogratory term which sounds like the sound that cats make.
The Miao/Hmong people isn't united. There are various tribes and they all have a name for themselves. Most of them refer themselves as Miao while only 1/4 of the tribes refer themselves as "Hmong". It just so happens that most Miao/Hmongs in the U.S. came from the "Hmong tribe" and therefore they consider themselves Hmong. Not only that, they want ALL Miao/Hmongs to be called Hmongs although Miaos in China consider themselves Miao as the name in Chinese has no deogratory meaning, only in Laotian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miao
To sum up, the original name of the Miao/Hmong people is "Miao". In Hanzi it's 苗, which means sprout, and it has no negative or deogratory meaning. However, when the Miao migrated to Southeast Asia, the Laotians, among other Southeast Asians, took the sound of the name "Miao" and turned it into "Meo", a deogratory term which sounds like the sound that cats make.
The Miao/Hmong people isn't united. There are various tribes and they all have a name for themselves. Most of them refer themselves as Miao while only 1/4 of the tribes refer themselves as "Hmong". It just so happens that most Miao/Hmongs in the U.S. came from the "Hmong tribe" and therefore they consider themselves Hmong. Not only that, they want ALL Miao/Hmongs to be called Hmongs although Miaos in China consider themselves Miao as the name in Chinese has no deogratory meaning, only in Laotian.
oh please kulong, i dont think you should be quoting from wikipedia because wikipedia supports all my claims on the relationship between Austronesian peoples:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malay_people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austronesian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwanese_aborigine
I don't care for your pan-Austronesian B.S. That's why I linked it directly to the article about Miao.
Unlike you, just because someone or something presents SOME information I may disagree with, I don't automatically dismiss EVERYTHING that someone or something has to say.
wow, so you can be so blatant and disrespect someone's culture and call it Bull -sh-t, but if someone says chinese culture is bull -sh-t that is anti chinese? ok well since you have just blatantly said such an offensive thing about my Austronesian culture this is surely worthy of report to the mods
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Jun 24 2004, 12:30 AM)
wow, so you can be so blatant and disrespect someone's culture and call it Bull -sh-t, but if someone says chinese culture is bull -sh-t that is anti chinese? ok well since you have just blatantly said such an offensive thing about my Austronesian culture this is surely worthy of report to the mods
I didn't say Austronesian cultures are B.S., I said your little pan-Austornesia "brotherhood" is B.S. I've said it before and I will say it again, you are trying to create something that simply doesn't and never existed. Austronesian cultures are as different from each other as East Asian or African cultures.
Don't try to put words into my mouth you little rat.
BTW, it's you who started flaming me, just as the past couple of times. Would you please stop harassing me and allow other members to have mature and decent discussions? Thank you.
Anyway this topic out..
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Yeah!! Their faces are all similar Hmong Faces...They have the cute faces and lovely...I love those faces... 
Rock.....your one of the weirdest person i ever incounter online..
QUOTE (holamon @ Jun 23 2004, 04:42 PM)
Very old post cards from the Indo-China period. I thought you guys might be interested.
P.S. Let me know if these people are not Hmongs.
P.S. Let me know if these people are not Hmongs.
those people are hmongs, they just look dark because of the black and white pictures
QUOTE (aaronly @ Aug 9 2004, 10:00 PM)
QUOTE (holamon @ Jun 23 2004, 04:42 PM)
Very old post cards from the Indo-China period. I thought you guys might be interested.
P.S. Let me know if these people are not Hmongs.
P.S. Let me know if these people are not Hmongs.
those people are hmongs, they just look dark because of the black and white pictures
Yup, even Korean in vintage pictures look dark
They are Hmong for sure...Just look carefully at them. Hmong people has change so much over these past 200-300 years. Customes changed and even language.
Yep, they're Hmong. Their clothes are the older style of our Hmong clothes now. According to my mom, her grandmother (my great-grandmother) wore this type of clothing in Laos.
QUOTE (holamon @ Jun 24 2004, 07:42 AM)
Very old post cards from the Indo-China period. I thought you guys might be interested.
P.S. Let me know if these people are not Hmongs.
P.S. Let me know if these people are not Hmongs.
hm.....the people in these pics looks like they have no life.
Anyone know where I can get those old outfits....I like them better than those that our hmong people be wearing to new years?
QUOTE (holamon @ Jun 23 2004, 01:42 PM)
Very old post cards from the Indo-China period. I thought you guys might be interested.
P.S. Let me know if these people are not Hmongs.
P.S. Let me know if these people are not Hmongs.
Great pictures! Where did you find them?
QUOTE (yajthaugluv @ Aug 26 2004, 12:36 PM)
Anyone know where I can get those old outfits....I like them better than those that our hmong people be wearing to new years?
Your best bet is to go to China.
i believe the top picture is hmong while the bottom is not.
i don't know.
the bottom pic looks like chinese slaves.
i don't know.
the bottom pic looks like chinese slaves.
How do you even know that is Hmong peoples??? Where does it say that??? Images don't prove notting. You got documentation???? Maio doesn't always mean they are HMONG.
QUOTE(supernovasp @ Aug 9 2004, 07:49 PM) [snapback]357180[/snapback]
those people are hmongs, they just look dark because of the black and white pictures
Yup, even Korean in vintage pictures look dark
Yup, even Korean in vintage pictures look dark
http://www.mdbchina.com/movies/5486/photogallery/
This picture shows the real Hmong tribal girl. I have seen many Hmong people like that in China & US. THey are the finest east asian I have ever seen. SOmetime just feel sad & missing to see that Hmong people have to use Korean or somebody to verify something that actually they possess the most.
i believe these pictures are hmong.
the silver plate and neckring resemble hmong silver neckring back
in laos when hmong leaders like kiatong and other hmong figures wore.
these pic seem like they're recent hmong that just enter indochina during that era.
my mom told me that back in the day, HMONG MEN wore cloth on their heads.
so, maybe these are hmong people.
the silver plate and neckring resemble hmong silver neckring back
in laos when hmong leaders like kiatong and other hmong figures wore.
these pic seem like they're recent hmong that just enter indochina during that era.
my mom told me that back in the day, HMONG MEN wore cloth on their heads.
so, maybe these are hmong people.
QUOTE(xeemlauj @ Aug 15 2007, 04:22 PM) [snapback]3137293[/snapback]
i believe these pictures are hmong.
the silver plate and neckring resemble hmong silver neckring back
in laos when hmong leaders like kiatong and other hmong figures wore.
these pic seem like they're recent hmong that just enter indochina during that era.
my mom told me that back in the day, HMONG MEN wore cloth on their heads.
so, maybe these are hmong people.
the silver plate and neckring resemble hmong silver neckring back
in laos when hmong leaders like kiatong and other hmong figures wore.
these pic seem like they're recent hmong that just enter indochina during that era.
my mom told me that back in the day, HMONG MEN wore cloth on their heads.
so, maybe these are hmong people.
Yes they did wear cloth on their heads. Some even had the Qing Dynasty haircuts lol.
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