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lilzz
form a common currency like the euro.
US doesn't like to see it, but good for asia.

But first and foremost, have to rid of feeling ethnic superioity over another in asia.
probably feel superior to other asians.
ANd this feeling of ethnic superioity is one more destructive element exit. really have to get rid of that.
supernovasp
Not possible with the currency, but there's already a "pack", the ASEAN +3.
retardsrox
ya there is.. ASEAN+3

the ASEAN nations plus china, japan and south korea
BigBenChow
Having a EU type of arrangement in Asia is impossible. Especially when Japan constantly opens up old wounds by making nationalistic movies claiming Nanking Massacre never existing, or paying a visit to a shrine which worships war criminals as Gods.
holysh33t
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Having a EU type of arrangement in Asia is impossible. Especially when Japan constantly opens up old wounds by making nationalistic movies claiming Nanking Massacre never existing, or paying a visit to a shrine which worships war criminals as Gods.

Yup... too many problems in East Asia.
retardsrox
east asia...
Italiano_Parkour
QUOTE(lilzz @ Feb 3 2007, 11:36 PM) [snapback]2701393[/snapback]

form a common currency like the euro.
US doesn't like to see it, but good for asia.

But first and foremost, have to rid of feeling ethnic superioity over another in asia.
probably feel superior to other asians.
ANd this feeling of ethnic superioity is one more destructive element exit. really have to get rid of that.

I think it is possible, but countries will have to be kind of developed ( being rich and have similar economy)
so it would be S.Korea+Japan+Singapore+Taiwan?
Ecthelion
QUOTE(Italiano_Parkour @ Feb 14 2007, 11:20 PM) [snapback]2726179[/snapback]

I think it is possible, but countries will have to be kind of developed ( being rich and have similar economy)
so it would be S.Korea+Japan+Singapore+Taiwan?


Having a common currency without China involved would be like having the Euro without Germany involved.

And no, it's not likely to occur within the next 10 years. This sort of thing takes time for the economies to synchronize. Monetary policy is a terrible thing.
Proud ASIAN
Yes the ASEAN + 3 or ASEAN + China, Japan, and South Korea. ASEAN now have become an union, China, Japan and South Korea should join the Union and form an ASIA Federation.
yiersan
QUOTE(Proud ASIAN @ Mar 6 2007, 01:10 AM) [snapback]2768935[/snapback]

Yes the ASEAN + 3 or ASEAN + China, Japan, and South Korea. ASEAN now have become an union, China, Japan and South Korea should join the Union and form an ASIA Federation.


Okay good , Asian works as unit to expell anglo saxons out of our sphere of influence . I hate anglos


QUOTE(lilzz @ Feb 4 2007, 08:36 AM) [snapback]2701393[/snapback]


US doesn't like to see it, but good for asia.




US is sh!t , that flood in new orelan is divine retribution from god , so is the 911
moobie
They have to build it from the ground up and need extensive dialogues, though.
SinoPak
No,


Until each of all trust each other

But never eek.gif
Ecthelion
As much as I hate to say it. I think Asia is still one massive war away from a true EU like economic union.

The EU was formed in the wake of WWII after all the leaders of Europe realized that they had far more to gain from working together than from working against each other. We Asians have yet to learn that lesson.

Also there is the issue of Chinese hegemony. Unlike Europe, power in Asia is not share equally amongst the major nations. France, England and Germany are equally powerful to the point where war between them would probably stalemate as it did in WWI. But China has more than enough resources to fight the rest of East Asia all at the same time and still win. So Chinese hegemony is basically the other major possibility.
wontonsoupx
eventually we will unite....and awake the sleeping dragon
YaoRocks
There used to be loose union of sort. The relation was defined by small states paying tribune to China, in exchange for acceptance and protection. And it worked quite well, for a long time until the western imperialists came along and messed everything.

If there is ever going to be a 2nd union, it most likely will be along the same line, but with trade as the link.

Ecthelion
QUOTE(YaoRocks @ Mar 24 2007, 02:23 AM) [snapback]2811840[/snapback]

There used to be loose union of sort. The relation was defined by small states paying tribune to China, in exchange for acceptance and protection. And it worked quite well, for a long time until the western imperialists came along and messed everything.

If there is ever going to be a 2nd union, it most likely will be along the same line, but with trade as the link.


The Japanese stopped paying tribute after the Anlushan Rebelion, after that there was no longer an imminent threat of a Chinese invasion.

The Koreans became a tributary state again after centuries of autonomy, because they were devastated by the Imjin War and could not resist the Ming in case of an invasion. The Qing were far too powerful for the Koreans so they continued to pay tribute.

And tribute wasn't really what you might think it was. In Imperial China, tribute was often another name for imports and exports were referred to as "gifts". This allowed trade between the Chinese Empire and the surrounding kingdoms while still allowing the Chinese Empire the nominal status as the leader. The truth was, none of the tributary states really had much to offer. Their entire treasuries were nothing compared to the wealth of the Chinese emperor. These smaller kingdoms also knew they were secure from invasion because it would cost more to mount a campaign to invade and occupy the country than that could be gotten from taking it. Sort of like Iraq...
Ogumo
Wont ever happen.
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