http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLPZaHZVo8Q...ted&search=
I pray everlasting peace between these two nations.
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that would be nice
yeah i hope so, but we did invade there country,it was for the best interest of the cambodian people i guess.
QUOTE(mytran80 @ Mar 16 2007, 05:13 PM) 
yeah i hope so, but we did invade there country, it was for the best interest of the cambodian people i guess.
What a $hit! For the best interest of the Cambodians,... my @$$! Vietnam was afraid of Pol Pot of claiming back Kampuchea Krom (too bad i can't call Southearn part of Vietnam any other than that name). But i have to admit that Pol Pot was useless and the governments after him even worse because Hun sen is Vietnam pupets. long last peace between the two neighbours? Well... first thing they (viet) should consider is to decolonize Kampuchea krom. That would solve every problem.
I can tell you that it is not going to happen. It is like telling the Anglo-Saxon to decolonize the Americas.
Khmer Krom are under Vietnamese nationality -fine. But they should be recognized and not treated like they came and settle into Vietnamese territory. They wouldn't be demonstrating for religious and human rights freedom outside of Vietnam if they weren't treated worst than $hit.
Why are you telling me this? Do you think the average Vietnamese person can make policy changes? NO!
People in the government like the Prime Minister are the one that make those policy. That is the reason why I think that b!tching at Vietnamese people will not help the plight of your compatriot in anyway.
Well, on the issue of the "khmer krom" I believe that they aren't the only ethnic minority group that are being watch by the government. It is the ugly truth that the government want to create a homogenous society where everyone is a Vietnamese not chinese, khmer, hmong, or laotian through whichever mean necessary. It may be bad for the ethnic minority but it is for the interest of the Vietnamese people and the government of Vietnam is for the Vietnamese not anyone elses. Unfortunately for the khmer in Vietnam, the Vietnamese government doesn't share the view of a diversify society like the modern United States which 50 years ago is a very well segregated society. In the future, I can see that either the khmer in Vietnam assimilated into Vietnamese culture and identity or move back to Cambodia slowly.
People in the government like the Prime Minister are the one that make those policy. That is the reason why I think that b!tching at Vietnamese people will not help the plight of your compatriot in anyway.
Well, on the issue of the "khmer krom" I believe that they aren't the only ethnic minority group that are being watch by the government. It is the ugly truth that the government want to create a homogenous society where everyone is a Vietnamese not chinese, khmer, hmong, or laotian through whichever mean necessary. It may be bad for the ethnic minority but it is for the interest of the Vietnamese people and the government of Vietnam is for the Vietnamese not anyone elses. Unfortunately for the khmer in Vietnam, the Vietnamese government doesn't share the view of a diversify society like the modern United States which 50 years ago is a very well segregated society. In the future, I can see that either the khmer in Vietnam assimilated into Vietnamese culture and identity or move back to Cambodia slowly.
QUOTE(kpham001 @ May 30 2007, 02:52 AM)
Why are you telling me this? Do you think the average Vietnamese person can make policy changes? NO!
We're giving you our side of the story.
People in the government like the Prime Minister are the one that make those policy. That is the reason why I think that b!tching at Vietnamese people will not help the plight of your compatriot in anyway.
Usually, the citiziens more or less share the views of their government.
Well, on the issue of the "khmer krom" I believe that they aren't the only ethnic minority group that are being watch by the government. It is the ugly truth that the government want to create a homogenous society where everyone is a Vietnamese not chinese, khmer, hmong, or laotian through whichever mean necessary. It may be bad for the ethnic minority but it is for the interest of the Vietnamese people and the government of Vietnam is for the Vietnamese not anyone elses.
That will inevitably create resistance and ethnic tension. Vietnam should somehow offer its citizens a sense of freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of self determination. I can't believe some can openly advocate such oppression.
Unfortunately for the khmer in Vietnam, the Vietnamese government doesn't share the view of a diversify society like the modern United States which 50 years ago is a very well segregated society.
Vietnam should follow US policies regarding its treatment of its citizens so that everyone can have a sense of equality; unfortunately it does not work that way for Vietnam
In the future, I can see that either the khmer in Vietnam assimilated into Vietnamese culture and identity or move back to Cambodia slowly.
Please, Khmers did not migrate into Vietnam, it's the other way around buddy. Don't speak as if we're nomadic people unlike the people up north.
We're giving you our side of the story.
People in the government like the Prime Minister are the one that make those policy. That is the reason why I think that b!tching at Vietnamese people will not help the plight of your compatriot in anyway.
Usually, the citiziens more or less share the views of their government.
Well, on the issue of the "khmer krom" I believe that they aren't the only ethnic minority group that are being watch by the government. It is the ugly truth that the government want to create a homogenous society where everyone is a Vietnamese not chinese, khmer, hmong, or laotian through whichever mean necessary. It may be bad for the ethnic minority but it is for the interest of the Vietnamese people and the government of Vietnam is for the Vietnamese not anyone elses.
That will inevitably create resistance and ethnic tension. Vietnam should somehow offer its citizens a sense of freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of self determination. I can't believe some can openly advocate such oppression.
Unfortunately for the khmer in Vietnam, the Vietnamese government doesn't share the view of a diversify society like the modern United States which 50 years ago is a very well segregated society.
Vietnam should follow US policies regarding its treatment of its citizens so that everyone can have a sense of equality; unfortunately it does not work that way for Vietnam
In the future, I can see that either the khmer in Vietnam assimilated into Vietnamese culture and identity or move back to Cambodia slowly.
Please, Khmers did not migrate into Vietnam, it's the other way around buddy. Don't speak as if we're nomadic people unlike the people up north.
QUOTE(Super Khmer @ May 28 2007, 05:13 AM)
But i have to admit that Pol Pot was useless
that's a bit of an understatement, don't you think?
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QUOTE(kpham001 @ May 30 2007, 02:52 AM) *
Why are you telling me this? Do you think the average Vietnamese person can make policy changes? NO!
We're giving you our side of the story.
Why are you telling me this? Do you think the average Vietnamese person can make policy changes? NO!
We're giving you our side of the story.
Your side is to blame the people for what their government do. Do you remember the part where the south fought against the government? It may be the government of some of the people, but not a lot.
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People in the government like the Prime Minister are the one that make those policy. That is the reason why I think that b!tching at Vietnamese people will not help the plight of your compatriot in anyway.
Usually, the citiziens more or less share the views of their government.
Usually, the citiziens more or less share the views of their government.
Bush's approval rating is like 30% in the US. I don't think that's a fair statement. Especially in a Community country.
The obsessively, blindly anti-Viet people like you give Cambodians a bad name. Don't blame a people for its government. Notice the vocally anti-Iraq war Americans? Notice that the US is still at war?
^I don't give a sh!t what you think mother fuker.
QUOTE(kvetch @ May 30 2007, 07:50 PM)
Your side is to blame the people for what their government do. Do you remember the part where the south fought against the government? It may be the government of some of the people, but not a lot.
I'm not blaming the people idiot. But some Viets share the views of their government just to go on a rampage which does not make them any different
Bush's approval rating is like 30% in the US. I don't think that's a fair statement. Especially in a Community country.
I've encountered many Viets here who do share their government's view and defend their actions at all causes even though it makes them look like the biggest bigoted motherfukers around.
The obsessively, blindly anti-Viet people like you give Cambodians a bad name. Don't blame a people for its government. Notice the vocally anti-Iraq war Americans? Notice that the US is still at war?
You can call me anti-Viet, but that is only what you people make of us. So don't go around blaming us when you people give US a bad name, idiot. For the record, I'm not blaming the people, I blame who support their atrocious acts and their enforcement of oppressive ideals.
I'm not blaming the people idiot. But some Viets share the views of their government just to go on a rampage which does not make them any different
Bush's approval rating is like 30% in the US. I don't think that's a fair statement. Especially in a Community country.
I've encountered many Viets here who do share their government's view and defend their actions at all causes even though it makes them look like the biggest bigoted motherfukers around.
The obsessively, blindly anti-Viet people like you give Cambodians a bad name. Don't blame a people for its government. Notice the vocally anti-Iraq war Americans? Notice that the US is still at war?
You can call me anti-Viet, but that is only what you people make of us. So don't go around blaming us when you people give US a bad name, idiot. For the record, I'm not blaming the people, I blame who support their atrocious acts and their enforcement of oppressive ideals.
QUOTE(mytran80 @ Mar 16 2007, 12:13 AM)
yeah i hope so, but we did invade there country,it was for the best interest of the cambodian people i guess.
LOLZ
QUOTE(kvetch @ May 30 2007, 09:43 PM)
that's a bit of an understatement, don't you think?
and re:LOLZ
of course it's an understatement ! But the reason Viets invaded Cambodia has nothing to do with the policy the KR were running since they share the SAME ideology ! they were just looking at what was in their best interests... ie : more territory. Doesn't make either one of them right...
ugh. I'm done with serious talking for today...
had enough in the viet chat
QUOTE(SoCal @ Feb 14 2007, 02:56 AM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLPZaHZVo8Q...ted&search=
I pray everlasting peace between these two nations.
I pray everlasting peace between these two nations.
i would pray for piece too after i'm done stealing the neighbor's lands.
QUOTE(Super Khmer @ May 28 2007, 02:13 AM)
What a $hit! For the best interest of the Cambodians,... my @$$! Vietnam was afraid of Pol Pot of claiming back Kampuchea Krom (too bad i can't call Southearn part of Vietnam any other than that name). But i have to admit that Pol Pot was useless and the governments after him even worse because Hun sen is Vietnam pupets. long last peace between the two neighbours? Well... first thing they (viet) should consider is to decolonize Kampuchea krom. That would solve every problem.
They were not afraid of the Pol Pot claiming back South Vietnam because every non-Cambodian in the world could see that the claim was absolutely ridiculous. If the Pol Pot did not cross the border and savagely killed Vietnamese citizens, the govt would have not sent troops to Cambodia.
QUOTE(vietpride @ Jan 4 2008, 07:55 PM)
Dear Vietpride,
Since your name is Viet, that mean you represent all of Viet people. Do me a favor, talk to your people, tell your people, plead to your people. Please, please, please; do not go to Cambodia. As you guys already know. We are a bunch of barbarians. Pol Pot kill your fellow Youn and so was Gen Lon Nol. It doesn't matter who will be in control of Cambodia after Hun Sen leave or dies, there will be another blood bath of Youn blood. Please, help me, tell youe relatives do not go over there. I hate to see people die needlessly. They should stay in Vietnam or go to China where they are treated better than in Cambodia. I'm not kidding. I am begging you. Vietnam do not acknowledge that there are Viets/Youn in Cambodia, so if there are killings in the future Vietnam will not get involve. Help them.
QUOTE(kpham001 @ May 30 2007, 01:35 AM)
I can tell you that it is not going to happen. It is like telling the Anglo-Saxon to decolonize the Americas.
How about Romans decolonize Britain or Great Britain decolonize India? Oh, better yet, China decolonize Vietnam. Whatever, happened now and then its all relative. In other word; Fuch you Charlies and have a nice day.
QUOTE(XigonCongchua @ Jan 4 2008, 09:54 PM)
They were not afraid of the Pol Pot claiming back South Vietnam because every non-Cambodian in the world could see that the claim was absolutely ridiculous. If the Pol Pot did not cross the border and savagely killed Vietnamese citizens, the govt would have not sent troops to Cambodia.
Dude,
Get your facts straight. Vietnam sent probing units into Cambodia, and retreated so that the Khmer Rouge send their vengeful units in return. Its all a game. If you are so sure about the "Arts of War" then you should ask Uncle Ho or better yet Gen. Vo Ngyen Giap. He'll tell you what happen in the strategies. I bet Mr. Le Duc To is your uncle. How about Ngyen Co Thach, Kong Chi Than, Ngyen Kao Key, Ngo Dien Diem, Nu Dien Diem, Long Duc Dong, The liost goes on. I'm srry about the spelling, you us Khmer cannot spell because we are barbarians.
QUOTE(lemongrass @ Jan 5 2008, 09:14 AM)
Dear Vietpride,
Since your name is Viet, that mean you represent all of Viet people. Do me a favor, talk to your people, tell your people, plead to your people. Please, please, please; do not go to Cambodia. As you guys already know. We are a bunch of barbarians. Pol Pot kill your fellow Youn and so was Gen Lon Nol. It doesn't matter who will be in control of Cambodia after Hun Sen leave or dies, there will be another blood bath of Youn blood. Please, help me, tell youe relatives do not go over there. I hate to see people die needlessly. They should stay in Vietnam or go to China where they are treated better than in Cambodia. I'm not kidding. I am begging you. Vietnam do not acknowledge that there are Viets/Youn in Cambodia, so if there are killings in the future Vietnam will not get involve. Help them.
Since your name is Viet, that mean you represent all of Viet people. Do me a favor, talk to your people, tell your people, plead to your people. Please, please, please; do not go to Cambodia. As you guys already know. We are a bunch of barbarians. Pol Pot kill your fellow Youn and so was Gen Lon Nol. It doesn't matter who will be in control of Cambodia after Hun Sen leave or dies, there will be another blood bath of Youn blood. Please, help me, tell youe relatives do not go over there. I hate to see people die needlessly. They should stay in Vietnam or go to China where they are treated better than in Cambodia. I'm not kidding. I am begging you. Vietnam do not acknowledge that there are Viets/Youn in Cambodia, so if there are killings in the future Vietnam will not get involve. Help them.
i heard that viet population in cambodia is increasing everyday. viets are about to be the majority. this time, khmers should be worried if bloods are spilled.
QUOTE(CoverTwo @ Jan 5 2008, 11:33 PM)
i heard that viet population in cambodia is increasing everyday. viets are about to be the majority. this time, khmers should be worried if bloods are spilled.
No friend,
I am serious about this kind of things. I do joke around sometimes but this time it is a serious issues. Vietnamese is not the majority in Cambodia and Khmer people do not like Vietnamese. Then again what do I know. I don't live in Cambodia, I live in Thailand. Take it into consideration.
QUOTE(lemongrass @ Jan 6 2008, 12:36 AM)
No friend,
I am serious about this kind of things. I do joke around sometimes but this time it is a serious issues. Vietnamese is not the majority in Cambodia and Khmer people do not like Vietnamese. Then again what do I know. I don't live in Cambodia, I live in Thailand. Take it into consideration.
I am serious about this kind of things. I do joke around sometimes but this time it is a serious issues. Vietnamese is not the majority in Cambodia and Khmer people do not like Vietnamese. Then again what do I know. I don't live in Cambodia, I live in Thailand. Take it into consideration.
let see who will have the most to lose when bloods are spilled. we viets ain't that easy to walk over. everytime you guys are doing something stupid, your land keeps getting smaller.
^ That's not entirely true. The KR army relentlessly attacked Vietnam's border villages and even after the VC overthrew the KR, Cambodia is still the same size. One thing you must learn is that Khmer's aren't exactly the pushovers you imagine (present day Cambodia is kind of a bad example, Hun Sen being a puppet of the Vietnamese government).
If Cambodians didn't have a strong will and strong pride in their heritage do you imagine we'd still be around? Since the sacking of Angkor Cambodians have been at war with Thai, Viet and Cham states. 550 years later and we're still around. The Cham didn't last long under the expansion of the Vietnamese people. Pattani Malays were overthrown seemingly overnight. I suppose if there is something similar between Khmers and Viets, it might be that both people are very resilient and do not fold easily, even when beaten into submission.
If Cambodians didn't have a strong will and strong pride in their heritage do you imagine we'd still be around? Since the sacking of Angkor Cambodians have been at war with Thai, Viet and Cham states. 550 years later and we're still around. The Cham didn't last long under the expansion of the Vietnamese people. Pattani Malays were overthrown seemingly overnight. I suppose if there is something similar between Khmers and Viets, it might be that both people are very resilient and do not fold easily, even when beaten into submission.
QUOTE(transtic @ Jan 6 2008, 01:33 AM)
^ That's not entirely true. The KR army relentlessly attacked Vietnam's border villages and even after the VC overthrew the KR, Cambodia is still the same size. One thing you must learn is that Khmer's aren't exactly the pushovers you imagine (present day Cambodia is kind of a bad example, Hun Sen being a puppet of the Vietnamese government).
If Cambodians didn't have a strong will and strong pride in their heritage do you imagine we'd still be around? Since the sacking of Angkor Cambodians have been at war with Thai, Viet and Cham states. 550 years later and we're still around. The Cham didn't last long under the expansion of the Vietnamese people. Pattani Malays were overthrown seemingly overnight. I suppose if there is something similar between Khmers and Viets, it might be that both people are very resilient and do not fold easily, even when beaten into submission.
If Cambodians didn't have a strong will and strong pride in their heritage do you imagine we'd still be around? Since the sacking of Angkor Cambodians have been at war with Thai, Viet and Cham states. 550 years later and we're still around. The Cham didn't last long under the expansion of the Vietnamese people. Pattani Malays were overthrown seemingly overnight. I suppose if there is something similar between Khmers and Viets, it might be that both people are very resilient and do not fold easily, even when beaten into submission.
is that right? why then khmers keep saying that Hun Sen gives territory to Vietnam?
^ I always thought that came from when Hun Sen signed an agreement in 1985 with Vietnam.. I don't know about now though, its a bit of a thorny issue.
QUOTE(transtic @ Jan 6 2008, 02:05 AM)
^ I always thought that came from when Hun Sen signed an agreement in 1985 with Vietnam.. I don't know about now though, its a bit of a thorny issue.
so you guys should stop complaining about Hun Sen giving land to vietnam.
Lemongrass sounds so bitter and angry. I wonder if he's related to Khmer Rouge.
QUOTE(vietman @ Jan 7 2008, 10:54 AM)
Lemongrass sounds so bitter and angry. I wonder if he's related to Khmer Rouge.
Thats not very nice, lemongrass is a good AFer. He was a victim of the Khmer Rouge, he just stating how Khmers are in Cambodia.
Phnom Penh To Ho Chi Minh City by Bus 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfaXug6lhWQ...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfaXug6lhWQ...feature=related
Its never happenned as what you think, unless you Viet return back to wherever that you came from and leave us Khmer alone...After that we will be considering on that matter...
But hey!! You Yuon are DogEaters and Lowlives...the Khmers just dont want to be frienship with you...Becuz our Khmer lives are very important and precious ever!!!
But hey!! You Yuon are DogEaters and Lowlives...the Khmers just dont want to be frienship with you...Becuz our Khmer lives are very important and precious ever!!!
QUOTE(SoCal @ Feb 14 2007, 02:56 AM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLPZaHZVo8Q...ted&search=
I pray everlasting peace between these two nations.
I pray everlasting peace between these two nations.
^^dude your English is awful.
QUOTE(Wardrum80 @ Mar 26 2008, 04:37 AM)
^^dude your English is awful.
"Becuz our Khmer lives are very important and precious ever!!!"
On a serious note, I think the Vietnamese should do what ever it can to improve relations with its neighbors.
QUOTE(RockHeart @ Mar 22 2008, 09:48 AM)
Its never happenned as what you think, unless you Viet return back to wherever that you came from and leave us Khmer alone...After that we will be considering on that matter...
But hey!! You Yuon are DogEaters and Lowlives...the Khmers just dont want to be frienship with you...Becuz our Khmer lives are very important and precious ever!!!
But hey!! You Yuon are DogEaters and Lowlives...the Khmers just dont want to be frienship with you...Becuz our Khmer lives are very important and precious ever!!!
Do you think this type of talk will help or harm the relationship?
oh my god, once again, there are so many racist cambodians in here! why you @$$hole khmer brownies hated on Vietnamese so badly? just because you guys lost half of your land 300 years ago doesn't means you blame everything on the Vietnamese people? Think about the Chinese who start building the communist Pol Pot government in your country and caused millions of Cambodians life casualties! Stupid fuk...learn about your past history and acknowledge who is on your side to fight the Chinese in 1979....It's the Vietnamese people who putting down the work!
QUOTE(asiangang714 @ May 24 2008, 01:20 AM)
oh my god, once again, there are so many racist cambodians in here! why you @$$hole khmer brownies hated on Vietnamese so badly? just because you guys lost half of your land 300 years ago doesn't means you blame everything on the Vietnamese people? Think about the Chinese who start building the communist Pol Pot government in your country and caused millions of Cambodians life casualties! Stupid fuk...learn about your past history and acknowledge who is on your side to fight the Chinese in 1979....It's the Vietnamese people who putting down the work!
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