are Punjabi's the only ppl who think their superior to other indians?

I would say other North Indians and Bengalis

It sub-consciously exists in more subtle forms among other communities. For instance, South Indians might inherently think that they're the smartest Desis. Rajputs might think that they're the most courageous and will expect everyone to glorify their ancestors' deeds. Gujaratis might think that they're the most prosperous compared to other Indians abroad, etc.

It's just that Punjabis are more vocal, I guess.

I disagree I have only seen North Indians aND Bengalis with what you would call a superiority complex

What about Chitpavans, huh? Don't tell me that nobody in your family tree never had an ounce of pride at being "fair", "having "green eyes" or being regarded as "good-looking" in comparison to the rest of the Marathi population.

yeh cus ive never seen any south Indians who are like jat/w/guts



is there a reason why ppl prefer having a fair complexion then a dark one, is there a reason or is it just cus fair complexion ppl are so low in ratio they just see themselfs as special

That's why I used the word "subtle." A South Indian isn't going to say these things to your face, because they know it's socially inappropriate. Plus, they don't let these superiority feelings interfere with their everyday lives. There will be a tiny inherent feeling of superiority in everybody in some form if you dig down deep enough. It's just that some Indian Punjabis and Pakistanis overseas take it to the extreme.





It's a symbol of attractiveness, status, and femininity for women. Colonization and Bollywood is probably the influence. A lot of high-caste Indians also think that they're better-looking than lower-caste Indians.

Are you trying to say that Jatt with Gutts is a representative for all of Punjab?

no i was just talking about his personality iev never seen any southys with his type of attitude

It's not in some people's culture to brag about themselves. They might be feeling egotistical on the inside, but they just don't believe in showing it or flaunting it.

Oh ok.........Where were you from again? Was it Thailand?...

He's from Australia.

Not really? ! I think there are some who are proud of genetic roots. I just don't want to be lumped with paks and persians. Hell my dad doesn't even take the whole peshwa thing serious.

We certainly don't think we are mystical warriors or act we are like noble prize winning european jewry Intelligentsia of South Asian




certainly not out of the mainstream in parts of Eastern America.

whyd you assume Thailand?

no, individuals think they're superior to others. It isn't just punjabis, but individuals from all ethnicities, Indian and non-Indian.

Additionally, as much as people may wish to claim they feel everyone is completely equal, deep down everyone at different points of their lives will hold some kind of prejudice or discriminate.

Are you referring to Bengalis there?

Isn't that where you said you were from? Or was that someone else?

He looks more like an Indian boy.

I wouldn't know that. I've never met him......

I've never met him either but I've seen his picture, and so have you.

He's Khmer! and now we're done

Why are most of his posts in India Chat instead of Khmer Chat?

yes

lol what about you referring to North Indians as "barbarians"? That's a form of superiority right there, because you're hinting that West Indians are more refined and less barbaric.




But at the same time, there's a part of these people that realize that it's wrong and socially inappropriate to feel that way. So, they tuck those feelings away, don't let it interfere with their daily lives, and don't feel the need to rub it in other people's faces.


Even if you try to explain to these Punjabi and Pakistani net warriors that it's not civilized to talk how they talk and that they should have a conscience to respect other people's feelings, they don't understand.

It's more of joke, as in comparing them to the Vandals or Visigoths. Being a bigoted and having massive superiority complex are to different things.

I agree, we talked about this on msn too a couple of times.

Yeah, think of this way. Let's say someone kills a family relative of yours, and it's a sudden instinct for you to feel that you want to go after that guy and KILL him. But later, you realize that it's not right for you to kill another human being and two wrongs don't make a right.

It's so wrong and yet so right.

thats me in the sig



whats a khmer

and im indian

They're powerful people from Cambodia.

The Khmer are the magical people of Southeast Asia.

cool

Before becoming a member of this forum, I had no idea this is the general thought amongst punjabi's. I asked my dad and he started laughing...asked him about all of those different types of indians as well and he said 'dont worry about it. you're not in india, so it really doesn't matter much'

meh...i dropped it after that. but yea...why is that?

I think it's more common abroad. My mom also said she never heard Punjabis talk like this when she was growing up. People back in the 60's in India had way better things to worry about than which Indian ethnicity is better-looking, taller and has nicer noses.

But, you can easily find these kind of sentiments on just about any Punjabi forum you go too. Jattworld.com is a good example where they enjoy calling all other Indians hideous creatures and weak cowards.

people like that make me want to curl up in a corner and hide. lmao..my dad always has a few choice words for those types as well. it's great to have pride and all...but i hate it when minorities segregate and act racist between themselves. How can we possibly make an impact if the majority of us sound like such hateful, racist, ignorant fools?!

I've heard of that jattworld site a few times on this site..and I seriously am reluctant to even check it out...might make me vomit.

I agree. However, the chances of the majority actually being hateful, racist and ignorant isn't too likely, and it's up to the those of us who choose to accept and respect all others, regardless of their ethnicity, to build a future that we feel is better for us, and all people.

Are you Punjabi? If so, I must say it's very refreshing to see posters like you and Vaman recently joining the forum, instead of other Punjabi posters like Jatt w/ Gutts (who I believe you are familiar with after receiving some attacks from him in another thread) and Amar.

They are in denial that what they say is hateful and racist. Their excuse is, "It's the truth. Accept that we are the most superior people in South Asia, just like how a tiger is superior to a rabbit."

You're right..India isn't going to get anywhere by progressing if they quabble over these things. You would think that people would have learned their lesson by now considering how much India has been subjugated, due to a lack of unity and unnecessary superiority complexes.

Yes, I am punjabi...and this isn't the first time i've had to deal with other people like the ones you mentioned. I have plenty of relatives who i choose not to speak to any longer since their idealistic ways (and ironically completely hypocritical actions) keep them at odds with me. It's not a personal things against Punjabi's...like I said...I am one and proud of it...but I don't think that makes me any better than anyone else. Thankfully aside from some of my more ape-like relatives, my parents have always been very accepting and informative about other cultures (even within the S.Asian community). They're very unbiased which resulted in a general respect and understanding of most other cultures.

I think people that close themselves off completely and don't choose to look at the world around them, really are foolish and rather uncultured. I can feel a sense of pride going into any temple or church and knowing I still have a human connection there.

Maybe that's why I've been a bit reluctant to have ANY punjabi friends. Plenty of Asian, African American, American, Hispanic, Carribean and so on...but really no punjabi's. Even my parents are a bit weary of that thought...go figure.

Anyhow...good to be here.

Hahah that's funny.........my mom (a non-Punjabi) LOVES Punjabis and has a very different perspective......Most of her friends are Punjabi, so I also was exposed to mostly Punjabi teenagers and young adults at Indian functions. (since they are the kids of her friends). Although, I don't really feel like I fit in with them or could relate to the things they talked about.

Same here about not being able to relate. I've never been called out as a Punjabi though. The usual lines I get are: 'are you west indian? guyanese?, trini? -and most recently- hispanic?'

So it's a lot of fun to walk around those folks and listen in on their convo's when they think I dont know what they're saying.

It's a great culture...I dont wanna sound like a hater or anything...but I just haven't been around a lot of em (us..whatever). Doesn't mean I cant speak it or cant' appreciate it.

I hate it when people think you're one or the other...either you have to be super involved or you hate your own kind...i sort of walk the fine line between being indian and being myself. guess that's what gets me into trouble sometimes! oh well.

I actually relate more to people my age who are from India. I'm sure you would be able too...It's amazing how some younger Indians from the motherland are more open-minded, easy-going and are able to think more rationally compared to Indians over here.

If you can relate to some of the Indians from India, that's enough. Nobody can call you white-washed if they're even more Westernized and liberal than Indians over here.

That's true enough. My cousins are pretty forward thinking and I guess if you read my posts in another thread..sometimes they know more than their western counterparts. Nuff said on that.

I actually dont' really care if they do call me white-washed. It keeps most of them away, which makes me pretty happy...i know...i know...but again, I've never lived my life being scared of what other folks will think of me. If that were the case I'd have to give up a few very precious things in my life that make me who I am.

The other day I ran into this girl that my aunt and uncle knew (I posted her story in the other thread as well)...well long story short..she's punji and married (and younger than me) but she did her fair share of dirt before getting arranged married. She gave me her number and asked me to stay in touch. It took me about 3 weeks to call this girl back...I would look at her number in my phone and not call...look at it and think "do I want to go there...she's got this very traditional family that I know will not understand where I'm coming from...why do I want to stay in touch with her".

And when my bf found out I purposely didn't give her my number he said it was rather rude of me and I should at least call her once. So another 2 weeks later I ended up texting her whats up and then she finally called me. haha...

I really don't know why, but i've been terribly reluctant to make punjabi friends...i hate it when their mom and dad's go "oh look at her, she's such a nice girl, always listens to her parents-why can't you be more like her"

I dont like that bc they dont know me..I am a good girl...I do listen to my parents and love em, but I still like to go out, speak my mind, make my own decisions and until the bitter end choose to be with my bf...(that's the major sore spot for most of them)..the fact that i'm marrying a non-punjabi, non-asian man.

ok...this convo can go on and on...what really struck me was how many types of punjabi's there are ...or rather how many differents types of Indians are Sikh. Again I asked my dad and I guess it came out sounding very naive cause he just laughed.

North Indians are so blessed they're peace loving lot.

you're so imformed about 'North Indians'...por que?

haha..peace loving..tell that to my uncles

I was joking. I'm the marathi big of AF India Chat. Pleasure to meet you!

same here!

you've got a hilarious sense of humor btw!

umm...this is gonna sound ignorant..but all I've ever known were Indians and then north or south...i can't tell the diff between a lot of what you guys talk about in here so i'm lost most of the time.

In NYC...we're all just 'brown people' hehe...so I don't differentiate!

But I'm always interested to learn...

I think a lot of it has to do with the different narratives of India our parents/family tell us. I always wish I could've grown up in New York.

Do you go to NYU?

so where did you grow up?

I think you're dead on with the parents thing-they shape so much of our views and biases. thankfully we grew up in a household where the alter had everything from sikh artifects, to hindu ones as well rosary beads.

i'm currently pursuing my mba...not at nyu tho.

^Phoenix, Az

tri-state area is like the power center for Indian America

oh one of my friends moved to AZ for work.

haha...i guess so...i see many aunties staring me down as I walk down the street holding hands with my bf...kind of makes me happy they think i'm not Indian most of the time.

why did you ask about nyu? is that the power university for indian students? hehe

i had someone look at me once and go 'you look like a st.johns girl' i was like wth!??! just cause i'm indian i have to be a med major?