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NoAnger
This happens a lot with South Asians who live around here. They all like to differentiate between themelves, which is fine. Some are Gujurati, some are Punjabi, etc. However lately I've been seeing more and more feuds about it. A large amount of them fuel from one group thinking that they're better than another, or the best.

I'm Punjabi, and a Sikh. I'm very proud of my culture and heritage, as are a lot of my relatives, however I still have a great interest in the other cultures of India, and strive to learn more and more about them.

When my parents told me that (and don't quote me on this, I'm not sure if it's correct) that Sikhs wanted their own country to call Khalistan, I was kind of devestated. I'm really proud to be able to call myself an Indian. Indian culture in general is just such an amazing mix of different things. It's really amazing because it's so diverse.

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kkdkckrl
QUOTE(NoAnger @ Mar 24 2007, 11:26 PM) *

This happens a lot with South Asians who live around here. They all like to differentiate between themelves, which is fine. Some are Gujurati, some are Punjabi, etc. However lately I've been seeing more and more feuds about it. A large amount of them fuel from one group thinking that they're better than another, or the best.

I'm Punjabi, and a Sikh. I'm very proud of my culture and heritage, as are a lot of my relatives, however I still have a great interest in the other cultures of India, and strive to learn more and more about them.

When my parents told me that (and don't quote me on this, I'm not sure if it's correct) that Sikhs wanted their own country to call Khalistan, I was kind of devestated. I'm really proud to be able to call myself an Indian. Indian culture in general is just such an amazing mix of different things. It's really amazing because it's so diverse.

Share your views on this topic please. biggrin.gif


Are your parents saying that Sikhs should have their own country, or are they saying they as Sikhs would want a Khalistan?

Personally, I think they have a right to their views, as long as they don't say all Hindus should be thrown out of India, or berate other indians, advocate violence against Indians, or call for open secession against India, which isn't going to do anyone any good.

Gujjus Vs Punjus rivalries or Punjus Vs Tamil rivalries is something very common and is to be expected as there are many cultural differences. Most of the time ppl of each ethnic group rarely interacts with the other as far as I am concerned.

Many ppl who downplay other cultures have serious insecurity issues, and the only way they can make themselves feel better is by putting others down.
NoAnger
QUOTE(kkdkckrl @ Mar 24 2007, 11:02 PM) *

Are your parents saying that Sikhs should have their own country, or are they saying they as Sikhs would want a Khalistan?

Personally, I think they have a right to their views, as long as they don't say all Hindus should be thrown out of India, or berate other indians, advocate violence against Indians, or call for open secession against India, which isn't going to do anyone any good.

Gujjus Vs Punjus rivalries or Punjus Vs Tamil rivalries is something very common and is to be expected as there are many cultural differences. Most of the time ppl of each ethnic group rarely interacts with the other as far as I am concerned.

Many ppl who downplay other cultures have serious insecurity issues, and the only way they can make themselves feel better is by putting others down.



What my parents said was that they heard on the news about sikhs in India (not my parents) wanting their own country.

I agree that they have their own rights and such, but what I mean is saying that they are better than others isn't really right. It doesen't accomplish anything either.

I don't really see the points of the rivalries either, it'd be better to just accept and try to learn from the other cultures rather than challenge them or compete. It's pointless.

I agree that they have serious insecurity issues if they downplay other cultures.
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(NoAnger @ Mar 25 2007, 12:26 AM) *

What my parents said was that they heard on the news about sikhs in India (not my parents) wanting their own country.




People in India? I thought the Khalistan thing existed outside of India, because our generation's parents came around 84. The Sikhs recently from India are more patriotic about India than anything else.

QUOTE(kkdkckrl @ Mar 25 2007, 12:02 AM) *

Punjus Vs Tamil rivalries is something very common and is to be expected as there are many cultural differences. Most of the time ppl of each ethnic group rarely interacts with the other as far as I am concerned.



Punju Vs Tamils? What they got against Tamils specifically? I thought it was more of a Northie vs. Southie thing. No offense, but Southies are Southies up in the North...I rarely hear Northies bothering to state who's Tamil, Malu, Telugu or Kannada.
NoAnger
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Mar 24 2007, 11:49 PM) *

People in India? I thought the Khalistan thing existed outside of India, because our generation's parents came around 84. The Sikhs recently from India are more patriotic about India than anything else.
Punju Vs Tamils? What they got against Tamils specifically? I thought it was more of a Northie vs. Southie thing. No offense, but Southies are Southies up in the North...I rarely hear Northies bothering to state who's Tamil, Malu, Telugu or Kannada.


Oh that may be it actually.. the main point was that some sikhs wanted their own country =P I wasn't too sure on it.
-=(-_-)=- HI-hit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalistan cool
bandung
instead of punjus versus gujus what about datlits versus punjus. who would win
NoAnger
QUOTE(bandung @ Mar 26 2007, 05:22 AM) *

instead of punjus versus gujus what about datlits versus punjus. who would win


Dalit are the lowest of the Hindu Caste system right?
I've never figured how that works =\ how do they get down the caste anyways?
nimbus
i think the rivalry between different groups of indians exists more outside india than in india itself. and i think it's more developed in the "abcd's," because if u take a look at the fob students in college vs. the abcd students, the abcd's tend to segregate more than the fobs. the fob students all seem to get along really well.
that could be because they find more similarities amongst themselves than the abcd's, or it could be that they just feel more comfortable with eachother, or it could even be that they have a sense of solidarity since they are all foreign students from the same country.

i think if you have a a large number of indians from various states in india all in the same place, they will naturally cling to one another. that's probably because being a desi, you just have more in common with someone who is just like you, and who has the same traditions as you do, not to mention you dont really fit in with the all american students.

honestly, you see the same trends among different east asian, southeast asian, and latino students. it's like india is one big country made up of many smaller countries, since we have so many different languages, phenotypes and genotypes.

i think it's great to have pride in your heritage, as long as you dont put down other indians. anyone who does that is a hypocrite, since by insulting other indians, you are still insulting yourself.

ExpressYourself
QUOTE(bandung @ Mar 26 2007, 06:22 AM) *

instead of punjus versus gujus what about datlits versus punjus. who would win



Dalit is a caste. Punjabis are an ethnicity, where all kinds of castes can be found. The Punjabi Dalits are called "Chamars" (I think)
NoAnger
Could anyone tell me what castes there are in India? And in which order they go? {from highest to lowest} I've always been a little confused on them.

If anyone could I'd really appreciate it.

And I agree, insulting other Indians is just hypocritical as it demeans oneself as well.
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(NoAnger @ Mar 26 2007, 04:11 PM) *

Could anyone tell me what castes there are in India? And in which order they go? {from highest to lowest} I've always been a little confused on them.

If anyone could I'd really appreciate it.

And I agree, insulting other Indians is just hypocritical as it demeans oneself as well.



The four main ones in ranking are Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya and Sudra. There are tons of sub-castes broken down, which gets complicated.
Jagger
QUOTE(bandung @ Mar 26 2007, 11:22 AM) *

instead of punjus versus gujus what about datlits versus punjus. who would win

The Punjis and Gujus don't stand a chance against the untouchable Dalits.
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