See this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBGQADED_Mw
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badrudd...ersial_remarks

What about that?

That Jerai MP have always been a disgrace.

He was involved in quite a major bribery in Malacca.

The Dewan Rakyat is like a zoo.I also see the Australian parliament on TV and I see no such rudeness and shouting.

EVen the Yang Di-Pertuan Majilis is so weak and lame,cannot control the session.

ya man. when i saw some of the proceedings i thought it was worse than a primary classroom. but zoo is a better comparison.

i also remember in taiwan or korea or something, their parliament equivalent always involve punching and sometime free4alls fighting. even their lady MPs. at least ours not to that extent..

I support him. Why should those who hate Malaysia should be allowed to stay? Or rather, why do those haters want to stay here if they hate Malaysia?

Boo to the MP from Jerai!
Sungguh kurang sopan.

Huh? Dia yang kurang sopan?
Cuba perhatikan betul-betul siapa yang melalak seperti orang gila?
Perhatikan betul-betul.

Betul sebenarnya, masing-masing dua kali lima.

Saya ada satu persoalan tengkuafif, kenapa saudara berpendapat ada di antara ahli majlis parlimen sebagai pembenci Malaysia?

I am encouraged by the fact that Malay Malaysians here have spoken against this MP. However the sad truth remains that there are still Malays in Malaysia who don't believe that Malaysia is for all Malaysians. You would question how a man who is such a bigot could be elected into parliament, still be re-elected to parliament and hold such an influential post in UMNO. If someone else had said anything as insulting as he has said in the parliament of any developed country, and said it as consistenly as he has, he would have been forced to resign. Badawi should ask for his resignation. The fact that he hasn't and the fact that Badruddin has consistently been re-elected speaks volumes.

That's not true. He was referring to a group of Parliamentarians 'to keluar Malaysia', not the rakyat. Why has he said that? I'm sure he didn't simply say that for fun.

Speaking about developing country, it's not all good here. They have MPs who
asked people to remove their veils, speak the national language at home, integrate with the society, don't preach hate etc.
Basically, the politicians here tend to generalise the ethnic minorities.

This may or may not be true but, if he was referring to palimentarians, isn't that worse? They are the representative of the people. Who is more patriotic, someone looking after the rights of one group of people, or someone looking after the rights of all Malaysians? Furthermore he has done this on more then 1 occasion. He talks about the rights of Malays and of Malay culture, what about the rights of other Malaysians of non Malay culture, or is that not important? Furthermore he has only apologised for his misdeeds when instructed to do so by someone higher up, he has never as far as I can tell, apologised when not instucted to do so. Furthermore does the same thing later on and didn't apologise for it becasue he was not instructed to do so. One quetions how genuine his apologies are.


Maybe but irrespective of which it is not right to generalise.

Ya, why did he say that? Do you know? What wrong has the opposition MP done?

Im not sure, but if not mistaken the BN MP was arguing that Malaysia is an Islamic country, the Opposition MP was arguing otherwise (M'sia is not officially an Islamic country). Nothing wrong with this argument i think, cos it seems Islam is more like a de facto religion, rather than official religion. The Jerai MP obviously too dumb and stupid to know what to answer simply blurted out those immature response. Unless the opposition MP has done something terrible which im not aware of (please tell), then maybe he deserve to kena 'halau'.

DAP were the cause of everything bad that happen in Malaysia.

hmm... wat a remark

Why issit wrong
So don't vote for DAP

MCA the patung in BN or BN? PAS? NO WAY...
i will take leave and fly back to malaysia to vote for DAP if they contest in my area

That means you also responsible in anything bad that happen to Malaysia j/k

no matter wat.. i dun forsee opposition can rule msia so fast...
BN will still hold the majority

The one mentioned in the cat in the hat movie.

Taiwanese fillibuster

The Kinabatangan MP who shouted at Lim Kit SIang is actually a good MP,he raised quite good and moving issues in the parliamnet.Surprised he acted like that .

If there's one thing I learnt, it's this. Who you vote depends on which place the involved parties are contesting on.

Rural :

Vote BN for development.


Urban :

Vote DAP to check the government.



We should not be confined to the mindset that the opposition is a snare, and shall always be a snare. The opposition is the one that keeps the ruling party on its feet. I do not intend to bad-mouth BN, but parties are made up of fallible human beings which are still prone to corruption.

If a party wants to sustain itself, it has to adopt an open mindset.



As for that MP Jerai, no thumbs-up for him. He also dua kali lima. Why couldn't he say other non-controversial words? Why those 'kalau kamu tak suka, kamu keluar dari Malaysia!' words? So much for the harmony that the govt has been trumpeting about.

Anyway, if you're thinking of defending that MP Jerai, think again. Badruddin bin Amiruldin has had 'police reports filed against him for uttering racial slurs'. So I suppose this remark wasn't his first controversy.

Betong, I don't mean to offend you but, this is one of the silliest things I've heard. Right out of the UMNO propaganda machine.

The problem with UMNO and BN is that whenever they look like losing a sig majority they change the rules.

It clearly from UMNO man......

Who? What do you mean?

I read something from thestar today, they say something is wrong with the electoral system. In all past elections the percentage of popular votes always differ greatly with the percentage of Dewan Rakyat seats won.

eg: in 1978 election, BN got 57.2% popular votes; Opposition got 42.8%
but BN manage still manage to obtain 84.4% Dewan Rakyat seats; Opposition only 15.6%

another eg: 2004 elections, BN: 63.9% popular votes; Opposition: 36.1%
Dewan Rakyat seats (as it also stands today), BN: 90.4%; Opposition: 9.6%

This means that many people actually voted for Opposition since independence. In the elections of 1982, 1986, 1990, 1995, and 1999, the Opposition actually manage to get 39.5%, 44.2%, 46.6%, 34.8%, 43.5% popular votes respectively. but in the end those votes would mean nothing cos the votes didnt translate into "voice of Rakyat" in the Parliament. as they only manage to get 14%, 16%, 30%, 16%, 23% of Dewan Rakyat seats. where to get "checks and balance"?

Unfortunately our electoral system based on "First-Past-The-Post" (FPTP) system. We're inherit that from British.. But even British have modified it to more voters friendly like "populor vote" which also given a share in Dewan Rakyat seats.

But I agree there must be serious reform in our election system...


What I mean.. that quatation was usual quote from UMNO suppoerter like me *oops*
But anyway we in Malaysia always thinking too much about parties that represent us. Boo to that.....

Why do you vote UMNO?

UMNO will not change the rules to weaken its political position. In the recent past all it has done is change things to strengthen its position.

cos only UMNO will be able to pertahan their tongkat

why umno? because they are less conservative than PAS and keadilan is still not proven with their credibility.. i dont see any reason why malays would vote for DAP because they just want a muslim leader.. fullstop* its not about tongkat or anything my friend..

-just my freaking opinion

I wanna vote for DAP, but they are too racist...
This only my opinian lorr...
lmoa...

that's my freaking opinion as well LOL

Why is DAP racist? I've not heard of them doing anything to indicate that they are racist

Hehe..eventhough many middle class including Chinese kutuk the government..most of their livelihood depend on BN.

All project and tender are in the hand of the current government.As u know,many in Malaysia depend on the construction sector....and we know who runs the construction sector----BN....who roll out $$$.When construction sector jatuh..the rakyat suffers.

In the end...$$$$ comes first...and BN comes into mind.

DAP,KeADILan and PAS...mane ada $$$$$....the truth hurts.

Oh cum on Forrest.....the chinese are the only people on this planet where you can put anywhere and they will survive

Name one country in the world which dun have chinese. Even in Kota Bharu we have chinatown which many feels it never existed

The truth about Chinese businesses....they dun depend on govt tongkat....they work hard within their clanship

May be if the tongkat dun exist.....then I would say...the malays will be a lot teruk.....the truth hurts honey

I don't mind if the special privileges enjoyed by the bumis be abolish and malaysians of all races have equal right in economy and education. but i will never agree if :-

- Islam should be divided from the state

- Islam position as malaysia's official religion should be revoke. in fact, i suggest that Islam should be Malaysia National sanctioned religion.

- Muslims are allow to convert to other religions.

I also suggest the creation of a Islamic Moral Enforcement Agency, an independent body that enforce the Islamic value within Muslim community with almost the same power as the police force. it will be able to detain offenders under it's own authority for a period of time to be determined. the agency will also be able to initiate an overt or covert surveillance just like our own PDRM. The creation of this agency will come in par with the creation of a new shariah law that promote harsher punishment for Islamic moral offenders.

Then I think about 50% of all Muslim men in Malaysia above the age of 21 would at some point in time been in jail. Muslims not allowed to drink ya? What about smoke?

My belief is that it doesn't matter what you do out in the open but, how you feel inside, so therefore you cannot police religion.

Also, if Islam has special privilidges in Malaysia then by definition non believers of Islam will be discriminated against.

If you have 10 children and then you find out that 7 of them is stealing. do you make it okay in your family to steal and exclude them from punishment?

when you drink, you lost your capability to think logically. now you say don't drink and drive, but when the man lost control of his action under the influence, how the he's going to realized that he actually enter a car and driving it? Islam didn't say that liquor doesn't have a benefits. it has! but the disadvantages far outweight the benefits and most of the benfits of liquor can still be achieve by other better means.

there's contention among top Ulama about smoking. the problem is, though smoking is bad to health, it doesn't take away somebody's ability to think just like liquor does. some say it's haram, some say it's makruh, and some say it's harus. but in Malaysia, we take makruh.



Tell me, is it ever occur to you sometimes, when you saw your friend's pretty and sexy wife, that you want to have sex with her? or maybe is it occur sometimes in your mind, to rob a bank and become instantly rich? i bet it has. but what stop you from doing it? i bet partly (maybe mostly) is the thought that you may get punish for that act. that's the point of enforcement. can you say that those who commit crime don't know that crime is wrong? they have to live in a cave to think like that. what keep the crime rate at bay? it's the man in dark blue and the jails and the hanging rope. fear is the best motivation you could ever have. now we don't snatch people on the road and throw them in jail. there'll be trials and all. You know Islam also adopt the policy that you are innocent until you're proven guilty. in fact, i believe that it is far more difficult to convicts someone in Islamic law as compare to the civil law. i say it is what occur outside that matter most since that is where the real damage is done. what you have in your heart no one else know, but what you did with your hand many can see and that's what we try to control.



I admit i have no credible answer for this one. suffice to say that we don't prosecute the followers of other religion, we don't force others to convert to Islam and they are free to practice their religion, as long as it was not too extreme (like sati). the only restriction is that we don't allow any other religion beside Islam to expand.

I actually paraphrased this opinion from SSC, from a chinese malaysian forumer himself.....he said the fact is..many rich and upper middle class chinese(and ther companies) owe their projects to government projects and contracts..it's a mutual thing.Why do u think Malaysia keeps seeing new estate houses and skyscrapers being built all year round. If the building stops...some people will starve.

Remember that Mahathir bailed our many chinese associations and companies with a current value of RM30 billion today during the economic slumpdown in mid 1980s.....the malays not the only one with tongkats la .

Stealing affects other people, choice of religion and sincerity of belief only concerns that one person.



Sure if it is a crime just enact it in the general law, not specific for one religion. Religious law, I believe should not be forced onto people regardless of belief.



If some one outwardly goes to the mosque to pray but while he is in the mosque, he is thinking about the newest issue of Playboy. If he doesn't drink outside the house but drinks like a fish at home, what is the point. Religion is in your heart, not for show.


At the moment Islam is free to propogate in Malaysia but not other religions. The rights of Muslims and of Islam is protected by law but not any other religion (eg a person must covvert to Islam to marry one. If you don't bring your child up as a Muslim they can be taken away from you). At the moment by law any new housing development must provide land for free for a mosque to be built for which the govnt provides funds while just to get permission from the govnt to buld a Church takes forever and they make it very difficult.

I say all of this without malice but to highlight the discrepencies between religions.

as i said, we deal with what we can see. if he do it in secret, public don't see it and there'll be no one who's being offended or some misconception occur that the misconduct is acceptable. if he pretend to pray in mosque, it's okay with us. we take it he's really sincere regardless of what he has in his heart. a boy in school may hate the teachers, but as long as he doesn't project those hatred into physical action, it's okay for the school principal.




I believe many religious misconduct did affect the society as whole. Islam is in it's basis is a guidance for human conduct and a law unto itself. it has been and it will always be until the end of time. when islam was vigorously adopted, muslims have rise to it's golden ages. unlike medieval christian, Islam didn't limit the bloom of knowledge and doesn't need a reformation or renaissance or whatever.

now many moral misconduct done always at some point effect the society as a whole. have u ever heard of "degradation of moral value among youth"? now where that this come from? it came from uncontrolable freedom. this thing expand like a plague since human are a social creatures, one people doing unproper thing may influence his friend to do so. it's like a drug. once you taste it, you'll be lust for it and our point is to prevent the first taste.

Ok lor if you say so. To me, its basically looking at the average chinese itself ...they dun depend on the govt

as for the super rich....let me phrase this. Tongkat is like viagra. One supplier many users. If supplier got problem....sure many would "tolong" ma

Typical of Asian politics..the rich wins or the military.

You know why govt give projects to the chinese.....its because of quality and they get more commission

Give to malay....the sub and sub and sub and sub......in the end.....nothing was done. Remember the computer project for the school.....and what was the end result

But Allah/God is not interested in what humans can see but what we feel on the inside. The way to heaven is not in what we do in front of other people but what we feel in our hearts. Teachers and God are not the same, at the end of the day you don't have to please your teachers. Your teachers do not know what you think or feel on the inside but, through religion you have to please God.


So is every other religion, Christianity and Buddism alike. In fact Buddism is entirely about the way of life.


But is religion about greatness, about power? I thought religion is about pleasing God and going to heaven.


I think there are many, many reasons for "moral misconduct" and of the "degradation of moral value among youth". Peer pressure will always be an issue, it has been present since the dawn of time and has nothing to do with religion. Peer pressure is about the desire to fit in. Freedom is something that should be valued and not feared, rather then hiding our children from it, we need to teach them how to deal with it. To control it and not it control them. Freedom is something all of us will eventually have as adults.


Probably because the Chinese bribe the govnt

bribe is SOP....standard operating procedure. The question is how much more can you get

that's where PR and top negotiator skills play a part...