Please contribute your constructive opinions of how
China and India can build harmony between the two nations.



http://au.china-embassy.org/eng/xw/t210509.htm

Hu Jintao appeals to promote int'l harmony, vowing to enhance democracy, rule of law

2005/09/06
BEIJING, Sept. 5 (Xinhuanet) -- Chinese President Hu Jintao appealed to build a harmonious international community which features long-lasting peace and common development.
Hu told participants in the 22nd Congress on the Law of the World on Monday that the rule of law is needed in maintaining harmony between people, nature and countries.

"Peace and development are the theme of the current era but newchallenge and threat keep emerging, which affect the harmony in the international community and the common development of all countries," Hu said.

"In building a harmonious international community, the rule of law should be strengthened, and the principles of the United Nations Charter and broadly recognized principles on internationalrelationship should become the code of conduct of the international community," he said.

"Building a harmonious international society conforms to the common aspiration of the peoples around the world in pursuing peace, development and cooperation," he noted.

China will build a socialist harmonious society, which is a "strategic task" to promote socialism democracy and the rule of law, he said.

More than 1,000 delegates from the law circle of more than 60 countries and regions are attending the conference held in Beijingand Shanghai. Enditem

As long as they don't get in our way, we're fine with them.

China and India are wholly incompatible.

what has the article to do with india??

i think it's very good that both cooperate but china deserves the lead role. unfortunetly indians will think the opposite

Who cares what they think?
I don't.

I don't like India, they are ally of USA and Japan.

China has tried to make friend with India, but what did India do in return??

Here is what China did for India:
1) Allowing Indian companies to invest in China
2) Allowing Indians to live and find jobs in China. (currently 50,000 Indians in HongKong and more than 100,000 in mainland China)
3) Allowing Indians to enroll universities in China. (currently more than 10,000 Indians in Chinese universities)
4) helping India to improve relationships with Pakistan
5) take the intitiate to resolve the border issue with India.
6) Supporting India's bid to become a permenant member of UN security Council.

This is how the Indians return the favor:
1) Constantly bashing China on their media
2) Discriminating Chinese companies in India
3) Denying political rights of Indianized Chinese.
4) Does not allow the Chinese to stay in India for long period.
5) Barking about containing China with US
6) India currently has more than 500 missiles targeting China.

Can I request thread close? The original article has nothing to do with India and what a shock, it's becoming an Indian flame thread.

I'm all for friendship with india.

I'm with you (well, being Indian I guess I'd say friendship with China lol). Shame every time any thread regarding India (which this one shouldn't be anyway), all we see is a lot of b!tching.

To point of view of Indian, 2 things will improve Sino-Indian relationship :

1. Allow Tibet independence
2. Allow India to attack Pakistan

Seriously , i think China needs to invite the Dalai Lama back to tibet and start negotiating about tibet's autonomy (like that of hong kong) and let him be tibet's spiritual leader, from what i read the dalai lama said he is willing to talk to PRC about the "one country, two system" that china already gave hong kong, but the central government now refuses to talk to "separatist" .From what The economist state that by negotiating with the dalai lama, the image of china and her relationship with neighbouring countries will improve immensely, and other coutries will feel less threatened, it is way better than those diplomatic trips by wen jinbao and hu jin tao

And about attacking pakistan, as we know war is never good, especially in asia, asia already witnessed enough sorrows , ppl should leave her in peace. In the end of the day , this is our continent and that is why most of us here are called ASIANS.

Thank you for reading

Have a good day

It is pity that Dalai Lama never give up his dream of Greater Tibet State.

I think he cannot come back to Tibet before his death, and then his followers will convert to territorists like East Turkistan against China.


That's all.

It doesn't matter what he thinks. The man is old, he will die and the lineage of "spiritual" Tibetan rulers will die with him.

As for Indian relations. They're not necessary, we have nothing to gain from it.

There you go, you Chinese think China should still be the first and we think we should be the first, we have our differences, but we can still set them aside. Most Chinese and Indians don't care about each other, the other country is just a neighbor and thats really just all.
I have no problem with India being friends with China, its just that both countries don't have a lot in common.
Both can benefit so much by cooperating and lose so much by not. No offense to China, but doesn't it seem that really all of its neighbors are antagonistic/mistrustful towards it? Mongolia, India, Japan, Vietnam, S. Korea etc, except for Pakistan and Russia and thats only because of India? Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

China does have a lot of power and is not to be underestimated, I fear China myself, its a sleeping dragon/tiger, etc.

all china's neighbors hate china until china dumps billions in investment money onto them, then they're happy. takes the u.s a lot more to please though, maybe if they floated 8 trillion of U.S debt americans will like china.

I fail to think of a single reason as to why India should NOT be the junior partner. It is inferior in everything from GDP to sanitation.

there won't be a "junior partner", i dont think. it's not like india will have to make unfair concessions.

Now what do you mean by "junior" partner anyways, can you elaborate on that? What, like both of them cooperate on mining for natural resources and India gets the smaller peice of pie?

ecthilon

U are so close minded. Why indians are inferior ? Arent they human like chinese too ? Seriously a chinese like you just bring a bad name to china.Please keep all the negatives to urself
If u truly want to help china , spread love, culture and a better understand of china to other ppl .
Do you like it when a white trash talk like that about China ?

I'll express solely my personal opinion here drawing from personal experiences.

I do found many East Indians, at least the ones in Canada, rather rude and selfish. They'll ask you for a lot of favors but they'll give nothing in return. Not even a tiny little thing such as borrowing a pencil for 2 second.

But then, of course, not all East Indians are like that.

China spread love and culture for millennia and it got nothing in return. The Japanese decimated Asian and made the Mongols look like Mormans, and now everyone loves Japan.

The truth of the matter is people might say they hate violence or whatnot, but our primal instincts tell us to respect the person with the biggest gun.

And yes, China has a bigger gun than India, way bigger. Until that changes, India will have to resign herself to junior partners status or not deal with us.

I love your avi and sig. It's colorful!



Maybe there needs to be some curb stomping? Anyhow, China needs to develop it's own military contractors and go ballistics crazy surpassing all other weapons of other nations. Right now, it seems China needs to just mind itself and keep everything within it's borders. No more sharing and helping......It needs to help itself only.

I've seen the dancing Indian Superman and Spiderwoman;
I've seen the Indian Michael Jackson and Elvis.

Unless India comes up with a Indian James Bond soon, there shall be no peace between us!


http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/lofiversio...hp/t116002.html

there's a bollywood verions of Fight Club.

I second that. The Indians I've met are arrogant, obnoxious individuals. None are particularly well endowed in the intelligence, personality or humility departments.

wow thats weird...most of the indians i met were awfully respectful and nice to me. i supose it does get frustrating when they think you are suddenly like..close friends. but thats from every race. and i suppose to most people you would become close friends. i guess im in that stage where i already have a group so im not interested in meeting new people.

C.Chen's opinion is the only opinion that matters as far as i am concerned.
Goodnight Midnight

I agree, China's military honestly needs to revoke its position as Russia's b!tch.

And this isn't for you Master Zhen Xing it's for Whoever, you've quoted previously

"The truth of the matter is people might say they hate violence or whatnot, but our primal instincts tell us to respect the person with the biggest gun.

And yes, China has a bigger gun than India, way bigger. Until that changes, India will have to resign herself to junior partners status or not deal with us."

Aside from Nukes, most of the "Bigger than India's" guns we own are either purchased or derived from Russian Technology which India can aquire.

As of now it is not really a good idea for China to use nukes on India.


BTW SiFu, whose that goddess you labled yummi.

Build a fence and small talks.

I request this thread to be open for discussion until further notice.

Thank you, Sir and Lady.

lol, internet diplmocay. Some of you guys take yourselves too seriously.

Indians are well-known for being cheap bastards. They are like the Hinjews of Asia.


How is it possible for those idiotic Indians to become the highest performing ethnic group in the US and most successful ethnic group in the UK without any intelligence?

Well the indians i met in my school are very nice and helpful. They are very intelligent ppl in my view (mostly doctors and lawyers) , gotta respect them.

Those india vs china debates are senseless and stupid, India and China have their own way of developing their country, just like human, look different, act different.

Thank you for reading

Have a nice day

melissa/missy peregrym.

doesn't she just look delicious?

Okay, Indians are people too, and there are greedy Indians and altruistic Indians (like the Buddha, I guess). So you can't just be like "well I met this greedy/altruistic Indian, so therefore most Indians are greedy/altruistic".

I go to a university where there is an assload of Indians, I mean this is like brown people central. While I haven't liked most of the Indians I've met for various reasons, there are a few I can get a long with reasonably well, a few.

Phew... At lease something sounds ok finally come out from you, ya if u are buddhist then u should know where buddha came from

Well close mindedness and arrogance are the reasons for the collapse of the Chinese empire , one of the greatest civilzation of the world

Hope you have a good day and thank you for reading

I'm not Buddhist. But I do know where the man who is believed by Buddhists to be the Buddha came from yes, that's a historical fact.

And closemindedness and arrogance were not the reason for the collapse of the Chinese Empire. The Manchu government simply lost the support of the people. Sort of like how the Russian Czar lost the support of his. Arrogance was no longer an issue after the Opium Wars.

And I'm toning some stuff down atm cause I just got warned twice in one day, ouch! PC mode on!

Agreed, and quite frankly there's nothing wrong with a the nations being allies, as they won't lose anything from it.

Btw, about Buddha, the term means "Enlightened one" (to have reached the stage of Dharma), meaning there's nothing to say there can't be more than one Buddha (though Buddhists I think believe only Siddartha Gautama has reached enlightenment).

I am a buddhist but damn i dont know much about buddha's teachings (how shameful), though sometimes i do read some books (in my language) so i dont know those indian names much (sorry for my ignorance).
Btw u mind telling me Buddha's name in indian please ?

Thank you

Have a nice day

I have little to no experience with Chinese myself, just mostly experience with Indians and I have met unfortunately more assholic Indians than good but the good Indians make up a lot for the other majority @$$hole Indians I've met. The assholes I know at least are extremely arrogant, stuck-up, that your GPA is how much you are worth as an individual, etc. Very aggressive and so academically focused but have this disgusting inferiority complex, coming from a fellow Indian mind you.

Its just left a pretty sour taste in my mouth, especially where we have this local Bihar American Association here in Houston, chock full of assholes.

AC already mentioned his name. Buddha's birth name was Siddhartha Gautama.


Why do you feel so much self-hate and inferiority complex?

Well, to give a brief history of Buddha, his name was Siddhartha Gautama and was born on the border of India and Nepal (though back then it was all just the Indian subcontinent).

He was born, raised and died a hindu, and Buddhism came from his teachings and interpretation of Hinduism. It's believed he may have been born into Royal ancestory, though spent his life dedicated to spirituality, eventually reaching Dharma, or enlightenment on Earth.

Hindus generally believe that Dharma is the highest state one can reach whilst maintaining physical form, after which comes Moksha (transcendence of phenomenal being, of any sense of consciousness of time, space, and causation or karma), which is most probably the state Siddhartha Gautama reached.

no. in reality, the neihbours are more closer to china than usa, europe etc. check the global poll to see what i mean. i hear this a lot in western media btw.


also, i want india and china to be good friends. because one day, both overseas citizens from these two countries might not experience the "go back to asia" racist remarks in western countires. if they do, it will make them look even worse in my eyes anyway, and if they still do...they are gonna get fu-ked.




i don't see how it's collapsed.

closemindness and arrogance though is starting to appear in usa and europe. arrogance already appeared long time ago in britain. i wonder what the future will look like.

Jagger, is that why you don't like me? You think I'm a self-hating Indian Japanophile? I hang around with Indians all the time, actually their the only people I hang around with, and its much easier to say the bad than the good, and many of the Indians I know are very arrogant, stuck up rude assholes, always judging you, having this superiority complex especially academically, its disgusting. And I've also met amazing funny as hell Indians as well that make up for those cockbites as well but its easier to talk about the bad than the good you know that don't you?

You got it wrong Jagger about me, sorry dude, don't be jumping into conclusions and judging so quickly.
I was born in India but I moved out a week later with my family to live in Saudi Arabia and Canada before coming to the U.S. I'll of course admit I am no where near as "Indian" as all of my other Indian peers but I'm not a self-hating Indian.

I just want more cultural exchange between India and China. Seriously, its pissing me off that both Indian and Chinese culture is being watered down and mixed w/ Western culture. I would love to see the effect Chinese culture would have on India, and vice versa.
Also, we need a forum where like minded Chinese and Indian ppl can talk about issues like this, and we can ban the assholes.

ugh the spread of christianity through china and india is definitely a problem

Where do you get the idea I hate you? There are many Indians who are cheap and arrogant bastards, but at the same time, the good apples always outnumber the bad apples for every group of people. For some reason, I just get the feeling you feel ashamed of your origins?

Dude, this argument can't be as one sided as you're making it.

How do you know what the Indian media says about china, I haven't heard about any bashing.

"Denying political rights of Indianized Chinese" are you talking about N. East Indians or Chinese immigrant, 2nd generation? Anyway all forms of discrimination are illegal in India. All citizen of India can vote(18 over), and have the right to run for office. India has over 13 racial groups and over 1,000 ethnicities. We have N. East Indians, Bengalis, Assamese etc.... people who are as much Indian as any other group.

I'm sure you're not giving the complete story, India is willing to cooperate with China in alot of sectors.

Give me a list of things you'd like India to do in return for Chinese cooperation.



Punjabis are considered the most arrogant, even in India. Guess what, most Indians in Canada are PUNJABIS. In India, Punjabis brag about how they're the best state. Or the best looking or the tallest etc... Bottom line, they're know for talking alot of sh!t. It's important to remember India is very diverse, there are over 13 racial groups and over 1,000 ethnicities. Each Indian state has there own culture, language etc... People are very different region to region.

Jenny Peg

Your description about the Punjabis from India sounds similar to the description of the Guangdongese (including Hong Kong, Macau) from China. Wow, at least India and China have that in common.

In my opinion,...oh never mind.