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The Indochinese nation is fast emerging as the next Asian country to give China and India a run for global investors' money

by Lynn Tan

India and China may be the current hot favorites of global investors, but Vietnam is fast emerging as the next Asian country to give both countries a run for their money. It will take more time, however, before Vietnam can be on par with the economic powerhouses, according to a market observer.


"[Vietnam] is sort of a hybrid between India and China," said Abdessamad, noting that China is more of a manufacturing powerhouse, while India's strength lies in its large pool of IT talent. Vietnam, he said, has "a little of both".

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Captain_Obvious
Vietnam is vietnam....fu-k you anyway.
ntn1987
thats why Viet Nam (and Cambodia and Laos) is known as INDOCHINA icon_smile.gif
nfacblade
QUOTE(ntn1987 @ Apr 9 2007, 07:47 PM) *

thats why Viet Nam (and Cambodia and Laos) is known as INDOCHINA icon_smile.gif

Nobody should refer to Vietnam as Indochina. That was a French-invented word. Did you know during French colonization, Vietnam as a nation disappear from the face of the earth? Why? Because the French called Vietnam and the other countries Indochina, as if Cambodia and Laos are the same country as Vietnam. Vietnam is Vietnam, Laos is Laos, but not Indochina.

Regarding the article, I think it's a good strategy to develop both manufacturing and IT sectors to hedge potential economic downturns. Having all eggs in one basket is risky. Vietnamese have a natural knacks for technology and IT works, but we also need to have a strong manufacturing base, because that enables more participation of the workforce since not all people can afford to have a college degree to work in IT.
02tonyl
QUOTE(nfacblade @ Apr 9 2007, 09:12 PM) *

Nobody should refer to Vietnam as Indochina. That was a French-invented word. Did you know during French colonization, Vietnam as a nation disappear from the face of the earth? Why? Because the French called Vietnam and the other countries Indochina, as if Cambodia and Laos are the same country as Vietnam. Vietnam is Vietnam, Laos is Laos, but not Indochina.

Regarding the article, I think it's a good strategy to develop both manufacturing and IT sectors to hedge potential economic downturns. Having all eggs in one basket is risky. Vietnamese have a natural knacks for technology and IT works, but we also need to have a strong manufacturing base, because that enables more participation of the workforce since not all people can afford to have a college degree to work in IT.


And IT and other technology industry will sustain Vn economic growth in the future , we cant rely on cheap goods manufacturing all the time
blacklight
QUOTE(02tonyl @ Apr 10 2007, 05:26 AM) *

And IT and other technology industry will sustain Vn economic growth in the future , we cant rely on cheap goods manufacturing all the time

I want us to have an economy and an infrastructure like California's, except that our manufacturing arm will be much stronger. Needless to say, the accelerating high tech investment in Vietnam is creating tremendous pressure for improving the national education system, and not doubt some more Orthodox Communist-era controls will have to go, and the government will have to be pragmatic and be more tolerant of dissent.
ntn1987
QUOTE(nfacblade @ Apr 9 2007, 09:12 PM) *

Nobody should refer to Vietnam as Indochina. That was a French-invented word. Did you know during French colonization, Vietnam as a nation disappear from the face of the earth? Why? Because the French called Vietnam and the other countries Indochina, as if Cambodia and Laos are the same country as Vietnam. Vietnam is Vietnam, Laos is Laos, but not Indochina.

Regarding the article, I think it's a good strategy to develop both manufacturing and IT sectors to hedge potential economic downturns. Having all eggs in one basket is risky. Vietnamese have a natural knacks for technology and IT works, but we also need to have a strong manufacturing base, because that enables more participation of the workforce since not all people can afford to have a college degree to work in IT.


So youre saying, noone should refer China/Korea/Japan/Taiwan as Asia? Remember Asia is a Western word.
Political correction has gone mad to a point of ridiculous.
Loc85
QUOTE(nfacblade @ Apr 9 2007, 10:12 PM) *

Nobody should refer to Vietnam as Indochina. That was a French-invented word. Did you know during French colonization, Vietnam as a nation disappear from the face of the earth? Why? Because the French called Vietnam and the other countries Indochina, as if Cambodia and Laos are the same country as Vietnam. Vietnam is Vietnam, Laos is Laos, but not Indochina.

Regarding the article, I think it's a good strategy to develop both manufacturing and IT sectors to hedge potential economic downturns. Having all eggs in one basket is risky. Vietnamese have a natural knacks for technology and IT works, but we also need to have a strong manufacturing base, because that enables more participation of the workforce since not all people can afford to have a college degree to work in IT.


The Vietnamese communist did at one time called themself the Communist Party of Indochina or Indochinese Communist party. A possible attempt to unite French Indochina under Vietnamese leadership. Not sure why they abandoned the plan. A Federation of Indochina seems like a good idea to me, preferably one model on the United States or EU. Any union base on the Soviet model will be a bad idea. Look what happen to them, forced unions like that don't usually work. laugh.gif
blacklight
QUOTE(Loc85 @ Apr 10 2007, 01:26 PM) *

The Vietnamese communist did at one time called themself the Communist Party of Indochina or Indochinese Communist party. A possible attempt to unite French Indochina under Vietnamese leadership. Not sure why they abandoned the plan. A Federation of Indochina seems like a good idea to me, preferably one model on the United States or EU. Any union base on the Soviet model will be a bad idea. Look what happen to them, forced unions like that don't usually work. laugh.gif

I have trouble imagining why Cambodia and Laos would want to unite with Vietnam at the moment. If we are strong, advanced and well on our way to become a world power (as we are), then the Cambodians and the Laotians will be concerned about being totally overshadowed by us. If we are weak, then why should they bother with us? On the other hand, many Cambodian and Laotian women are quite beautiful, and I have no doubt that there will be heavy intermarriage between Vietnamese and Cambodians and Vietnamese and Laotians.

We are more likely to unite with the Laotians than the Cambodians but if the Laotians want to unite with us, this will be a histoic event.
Loc85
QUOTE(blacklight @ Apr 10 2007, 01:36 PM) *

I have trouble imagining why Cambodia and Laos would want to unite with Vietnam at the moment. If we are strong, advanced and well on our way to become a world power (as we are), then the Cambodians and the Laotians will be concerned about being totally overshadowed by us. If we are weak, then why should they bother with us? On the other hand, many Cambodian and Laotian women are quite beautiful, and I have no doubt that there will be heavy intermarriage between Vietnamese and Cambodians and Vietnamese and Laotians.

We are more likely to unite with the Laotians than the Cambodians but if the Laotians want to unite with us, this will be a histoic event.


The way I see it, if we give them fair terms for union they might be willing to unite. Everything should still be the same except for the fact that we would use the same money (Indochina Dollar?), merged military forces, and have open borders. Each "state" in the union would still have power within it's borders, except when it comes to foreign affairs. That responsibility would be task to an elected federal government. Because of population differences, there should be two houses of congress to insure fairness. The U.S. congressional model of a upper house/senate and lower house/house of representative is a good model to follow.

I'm thinking ....

Upper House/Senate Total 99 members


Vietnam 33

Laos 33

Cambodia 33

Total 99

Lower House/House of Representative Total 300, divided according to population.

As of today that would be about ....

Vietnam pop. 85,250,224 = 243

Cambodia pop. 14,071,000 = 40

Laos pop. 5,924,000 = 17

Total 300


asean.asia
That's because we had to pull vietminh troops from cambodia to fight the US and puppet vnch. If it wasn't because of the American War, then the map of Vietnam would include Laos and Cambodia.

QUOTE(Loc85 @ Apr 10 2007, 12:26 PM) *

The Vietnamese communist did at one time called themself the Communist Party of Indochina or Indochinese Communist party. A possible attempt to unite French Indochina under Vietnamese leadership. Not sure why they abandoned the plan. A Federation of Indochina seems like a good idea to me, preferably one model on the United States or EU. Any union base on the Soviet model will be a bad idea. Look what happen to them, forced unions like that don't usually work. laugh.gif


More like Vietnam should be 85, Cambodia 10, and Laos 5. embarassedlaugh.gif



Upper House/Senate Total 99 members


Vietnam 33

Laos 33

Cambodia 33

Total 99

[/quote]
Loc85
QUOTE(asean.asia @ Apr 10 2007, 02:31 PM) *

That's because we had to pull vietminh troops from cambodia to fight the US and puppet vnch. If it wasn't because of the American War, then the map of Vietnam would include Laos and Cambodia.
More like Vietnam should be 85, Cambodia 10, and Laos 5. embarassedlaugh.gif

Upper House/Senate Total 99 members


Vietnam 33

Laos 33

Cambodia 33

Total 99


You and your tyrannical assumptions.
Any union under the the communist would been a forced union, it won't last. laugh.gif
Preydominator
Is it me? asean.asia reminds me of "Bobvu", only on the matter North/South is opposite, but the rest is the same provocation, joke.
asean.asia
How come there is Khmer odor in here? undiepull.gif

QUOTE(Preydominator @ Apr 10 2007, 01:45 PM) *

Is it me? asean.asia reminds me of "Bobvu", only on the matter North/South is opposite, but the rest is the same provocation, joke.
Loc85
QUOTE(asean.asia @ Apr 10 2007, 02:56 PM) *

How come there is Khmer odor in here? undiepull.gif


Stop being so racist. It's not cool. thumbsdown.gif
Preydominator
QUOTE(asean.asia @ Apr 10 2007, 08:56 PM) *

How come there is Khmer odor in here? undiepull.gif


Where? I'd like to smell one too to see the different. Never being real close to one. My nose can only smell trolls. They are really stinky!
arun
I'm glad Bob's a communist. laugh.gif
blacklight
QUOTE(Loc85 @ Apr 10 2007, 02:26 PM) *

The way I see it, if we give them fair terms for union they might be willing to unite. Everything should still be the same except for the fact that we would use the same money (Indochina Dollar?), merged military forces, and have open borders. Each "state" in the union would still have power within it's borders, except when it comes to foreign affairs. That responsibility would be task to an elected federal government. Because of population differences, there should be two houses of congress to insure fairness. The U.S. congressional model of a upper house/senate and lower house/house of representative is a good model to follow.

I'm thinking ....

Upper House/Senate Total 99 members


Vietnam 33

Laos 33

Cambodia 33

Total 99

Lower House/House of Representative Total 300, divided according to population.

As of today that would be about ....

Vietnam pop. 85,250,224 = 243

Cambodia pop. 14,071,000 = 40

Laos pop. 5,924,000 = 17

Total 300




It's plenty hard work and frustration building a democracy in Vietnam. I may have tunnel vision, but adding Cambodia and Laos into the mix could be a hell of a drag on our chances of success. My attitude is pretty much: let future generations of Vietnamese deal with this, if they want to. At present, I am more worried about treating our ethnic national minorities fairly and see to it that they share with the Kinh a future in a successful Vietnam.
Loc85
QUOTE(blacklight @ Apr 10 2007, 06:36 PM) *

It's plenty hard work and frustration building a democracy in Vietnam. I may have tunnel vision, but adding Cambodia and Laos into the mix could be a hell of a drag on our chances of success. My attitude is pretty much: let future generations of Vietnamese deal with this, if they want to. At present, I am more worried about treating our ethnic national minorities fairly and see to it that they share with the Kinh a future in a successful Vietnam.


That's true enough.
I'm all for treating the minorities fairly. Maybe more then fair. Since the minorities mostly live in the highlands, they have less opportunities then us Kinh. Maybe there should be more programs to help give them better access to higher education. Something like Affirmative action.
supernovasp
QUOTE(Loc85 @ Apr 10 2007, 06:42 PM) *

That's true enough.
I'm all for treating the minorities fairly. Maybe more then fair. Since the minorities mostly live in the highlands, they have less opportunities then us Kinh. Maybe there should be more programs to help give them better access to higher education. Something like Affirmative action.


There is Affirmative Action in Education in Vietnam.

Or you could always act like a bunch of VNCH extremists advocating the seperation of the Degar state icon_rolleyes.gif
Loc85
QUOTE(supernovasp @ Apr 10 2007, 07:07 PM) *

There is Affirmative Action in Education in Vietnam.

Or you could always act like a bunch of VNCH extremists advocating the seperation of the Degar state icon_rolleyes.gif


I'm aware. I'm saying more should be done.
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