What you guys think about his comments?
Racist?
only 2 weeks suspension..is this enough? should he get fired?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyKB63oPeGw

lol

my mom was like: "i don't know why he should be suspended, i mean, rap music in a way disrespects women as well, yet everyone turns a blind eye to that..."
guy on the news: "blá blá blá... nappy headed hos... blá blá blá"
mom: "HE SAID WHAT?"

haha. sheesh. people need to learn to keep their hate for other races deep inside and never let it escape the confines of their minds (or their houses i guess... lol... b/c apparently it's okay to say ñigger "as long as no one is around" haha)

Who the hell cares. I certainly dont.

Imus's comment is inconsiderate and absolutely wrong and insulting; but at the same time, I think the whole incident has blown way out of proportion. I've heard / read public people said even more insulting things to black people, but they did not get as much attention and skewered by the media. I really don't think this guy is a very racist person, seems more likely was a slipped of the tongue. He didn't think before he pull words out of his mouth. And all these black people came out on TV now appear as if they have been insulted so deeply and spilling out profound philosophy on black racism because of these four words this guy has said just completely blown out of proportion in my opinion. I don't think this guy should get fired because of the very wrong things that he said in a split of a second and overlook his 40 plus years long quite accomplished careers.

if he said slantyeyed hos i doubt anything would happen....but WTF was he thinking......clearly if anything offends blacks the sh-it will hit the fan.......jesses jackson and co would come down on yer @$$......but at least the guy apologize sincerely unlike that fuker rosie o'donell ....but still......it was offensive.....like....slanty eyes......big lips.....jew nose....etc.......nappy hair is a racial slur too............white people just don't get it

okay but what he said was true right so?

I actually like Imus. I watch him from time to time, b'coz he & his (racist anti-black) producer actually make thinly-veiled & snide remarks on the Jewish control of the media. But that flaxen headed b!tch does need to be canned like tuna for such vicious comments against the Rutgers players.

I'd miss him tho'.

He got suspended but I would like to see how his career is after all this. It might recover but for the moment it looks like he'd have an extremly hard time getting many politicians on his show in the near future. I heard he's also already lost 2 of his sponsors.

Freedom of Expression? Not saying I agree with what he said but he can say whatever the heck he wants.

Sharpton and Co. need to bring as much pressure that they bring to white men to their own kind (rappers, etc.) Bunch of hypocrites IMO.

Dude, c'mon! Just b'coz you can smack your girlfriend's booty doesn't mean that every other guy can. There's a level of intimacy here, where she allows you to.

It's bad enuff when rappers use the N-word. But it's far worse when whites use it. Same goes for "nappy headed ho."

If a Vietnamese guy calls his Vietnamese friends "FOB's", "Boat People", "VCR's" (Viet Cong Refugees), etc., then it may hardly be graceful or classy, but it is not racist. But if a white guy does it? Hell Yeah! There's a level of intimacy when friends say such things to each other. There is none when a stranger says it. "In-group", "out-group" interactions... Heck yeah it matters!

Thus, if you disagree, then shouldn't mind me smacking your girl's booty.

and there's also a thing called freedom to fire dumb crackers.

That's true. For a sports announcer, I'm sure that his slur will give him all the publicity that he deserves.

Indeed he has the right to freedom of expression but a private owned business has as just much a right to suspend or get rid of someone who they think will bring harm to their company. He can say whatever the fu-k he wants, however like everyone else we have to take responsibility for the things we say and be prepared for the consequences of our words(such as other people using their freedom of expression to display that they were offended).


Quite frankly I don't care but I laugh at the people who say this is anyway not racist. I think he could of gotten away with nappyheaded hos, because to me it's not that bad however once the "jigaboos vs wannabes" was thrown in there, it pretty much sealed what the mentality of the two guys talking was. Race was the central part of the "dissing" whether stated overtly or not and anyone who doesn't see that is a social retard.

I think he got a little too comfortable with that subject.

fu-king signed.

People don't get it. Another analogy. Say you have no problem spanking your children, does that give strangers the right and would you like it if another person spanked your child? No. Again I think some people selectively become totally retarded socially.

What the heck are you talking about?!? Is this some kind of joke or do you have serious reasoning problems?



IBID.

Most parents do not appreciate other people spanking their children whether they were justified or not because they feel it's not their place to do so and it's something left up to the parents and most would parents would react very negatively to that happening to their children even if they spank their children everyday. Some would even view them as assaulting their child. It's viewed differently if a stranger or outside did it compared to a family member or the other parent did it. It doesn't matter if the parents do it everyday (in this case for example taking one black person calling another person a nappy head ho, even though I think most black women would be offended by it even from another black person), it's a different situation when done by someone else(in this case similar to a white guy being perplexed why he is suddenly in a $hitstorm for calling blakc women nappy headed hoes and his partner talking about "jigaboos vs the wannabes" in combination with that)

Perhaps it wasn't the best analogy. However the poitn I was making is that there is a difference between what happens within a group and when someone does something to someone else within that group compared to when it's done by someone outside the group. Women might joke around and call each other b!tches however the impression it gives off when a man comes by and calls her a b!tch is different. It's often viewed as insulting. Most people who aren't totally socially inept are aware of these boundries and people only pretend they don't exist when they fu-k up, such as the people who would defend this as not being racist.

ico,

1. I'm was saying the same damn thing about "in-group" vs"out-group" interactions.

2. If you're gonna agree with people, then make it unambiguously clear that you're agreeing with them--especially if you gonna be sarcastic.

3. "nappy headed ho" is enuff to get him fired. It is the eurocentric standard of beauty that drives black women to straighten out their hair. In some cases, they even lighten their skin; Asian women do this too. The latest trend is for black women to go completely blonde. I find it ridiculous myself. (Straitening out hair is fine, but the other stuff is ridiculous.) The fact that Af. Am. women are doing this to some significant degree should inform you that the term "nappy headed ho" will hit a sore spot. He could have gotten away with the sexist portion of it, but certainly not the racist part of it. Besides, one of the stereotypes of black women is that they can't control their sexuality.

Well I thought I was making it pretty clear that I agreed with this

and I was reinterating what you said with the analogy following that
However ok, sorry If I was unclear.

Also I agree with 3. that yes he was saying it to be demeaning towards black females and I agree that "natural" hair has been made to be synonymous with ugly in this country and even among blacks themselves. Though I'm just saying...I don't think people would be upset AS MUCH if he just left it at nappy headed hos. That's just MY speculation. I think it was his partner's "jigaboos and wannabes" commen that pretty much made it without a doubt what the whole conversation about and that is trashing a group of people based on their race. I'm just guessing how it might of turned out differently.

The last I heard, he got fired.
I think it's lame. Even though this is old news, Rosie O'donald openly mocked Asians on the view and claimed it was for humor, this guys does it and gets fired but not before a $hit load of publicity.

Tell me why shaq gave such a shallow @$$ apology to Yao Ming for his ching-chong comments that happened 4 years ago.

Then tell me why miss jones STILL has her job with hot 97 after she sung that racist Tsunami song about ch_nks drowning. She only still has her job, because she's black and that it's politically incorrect to fire black people for racism.

However, God never gives into political correctness, as he gave deja vu to miss jones and her "people" in the Katrina Hurricane disaster!

Hmmm, well rappers are allowed to use N word since the majority of them are black, but they can't use that excuse when they use the B or H word since they aren't females. I find it odd that women don't get offended when it's used in entertainment all the time but they do when some unknown white dude uses it.

God huh? I wonder what that says about the tsunami that hit and killed nearly 300,000 Asians the year before. Genius...

Well, I think Imus is quite famous compared to any single rapper--certainly to any average rapper. Outside of P. Diddy, Snoop Dogg, Jay-Z, most rappers are not household names, particularly if you're talking suburban white women. Imus is probably ast least as famous of any one of these guys in middle America. But to borrow a phrase from our fearless leader, Dubya, it does in part have to do with the "biggotry of low expectations", where are allowed blacks do get away with more.

But then again, Imus does have a big mainstream show that brings in mainstream politicians, including presidential candidates. That's quite a bully pulpit to be say stuff like "nappy headed ho."

While I agree miss jones still shouldn't have her job you seem to forget that all the other people....guess what, who were black were fired. Todd lynn for example.

Secondly while I agree the two should be given harsher punishment, I think you need to take into account that shaq is employed by the nba, miss jones employed by some random radio station and imus employed by msnbc. Depends on how their employers handle it and that differs from one or the other.

Finally, you really should stop crying about racism when you tend to be one of the most racist on this forum lol. Do unto others, etc, etc. Yes random black people who had nothing to do with the miss jones song deserve to die because they happen to be black too. Nice but you would b!tch if I said I will be glad a random korean is shot in the street because your comments make me angry.

Damn, that was my 700th post, and I forgot to make a wish!

I wish for world peace.

Well you moron, I was only talking to jasel when a thick-headed imbecile like you had to butt in on my conversation with him. I was just pointing out how racist blacks in the media, who mocked Asians, get away scot-free with racism, because jasel wanted this white trash radio host terminated from his job. So I was just pointing out miss jones who still has her job, and wasn't even apologetic of what she sang in her song.





The tsunami also hit Ethiopia and other east african countries where all those fly-attracting people drowned as well! Gee mister genius, why didn't miss jones sing some mockery about her "people" in east africa who died from the Tsunami disaster as well?

I don't know if you've noticed this but the media generally doesn't give a $hit about minority/minority crime and minority/minority racism in general. I also don't think it's the fault of blacks (although I admit many could do some more) that racism against Asians gets little or no punishment.



omg you actually took me literally I'm saying that using one of the worst natural disasters in American history that happened to affect a heavily black populated area and claiming that it's somehow karma because of some black radio DJ who made racist comments on the other side of the country is beyond idiotic. Which coming from you I suppose shouldn't suprise me anymore.

Yet you opened the thread and responded...

Who cares about anti-Asian racism. Be a bigger man and ignore it rather than whining about it. While it may be unfair, it is better to just ignore it rather than let it occupy your mind all the time to the point that you become the next Kenneth Eng and can't separate racism from magical dragons and laser guns.

lol, that guy's so stupid!

And I believe Miss Jones did mention Africans in her tsunami song. Not that it makes it any better.

I believe Miss Jones is the referred mentioned "nappy headed ho".

God, it's pussies like you that never let the Asian stereotype die. I bet you're one of those dorks that just sit around and ignore a racist prick if he was harassing you, thinking that if you ignore them then they will go away.

Well. I see that alotta people are mentioning rappers in this thread which is true, they do mention it but the thread is not about rappers. It's about this SUPER raggedy dried up old man. Sucks to be him because I know he's feeling like an idiot now, especially since he lost his job & what not.

Most likely though, he'll probably get his job back in a couple weeks like nothing happened at all. Al Sharpton is just a bandwagoner, he is not the voice of black people, most definitely not mine.

Yeah, freedom of speech now deal with consequences.

I don't think Don Imus actually hates black people, but what he did said was stupid, and the Rutgers woman's basketball team does deserve an apology and he does deserve to be suspended. I never understood why an apology is due to Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson, hearing Al Sharpton accepting his apology made me laugh. Friggin Al Sharpton isn't the president of African Americans.

This whole thing was blown way out of proportion, I don't think the Mel Gibson or Kramer incidents were because they were using actual hate speech and slurs, and they deserved all the criticism they got. I do think to some extent Jews and blacks are pretty untouchable when it comes to public racism. When George Allen called an Indian American something like the French equivalent of N*gga it was pretty much forgotten the next day, the same with the Rosie O'Donnel(to be fair, in her case it was outta stupidity then actual racism), and Bill O'Reilly(when he said people shouldn't get face lifts because they end up looking Oriental, then used his fingers to make slant eyes. but the fu-ker didn't even apologize). I do think saying stupid stuff does need to be addressed so the individual realizes they are being stupid but I don't think Don Imus deserves to be crucified for what he said.

rofl nappy headed hos! that is really random basketball commentary

If he just called them ho's, would that have saved him from the racism remark?

at first i was like dam he should get fired
but second i think he shouldnt cause if you see rap videos, their degrading women all the time. ho this ho that... but right now i heard advertisements are getting cut off from his show... i guess it will only get worse as those loud monkies will try to get him fired.

another hip hop radio host says its okay if a black man OR RAPPER says nappy headed ho since hes telling a life story from the hood....

WTF does rap music have to do with Don Imus making racially insensitve and derogatory remarks about the Rutgers women's basketball team? Don't take this as me attacking you, I'm just informing you that you're stupid. What you do with this knowledge is in your hands.

I agree with you, but would have to qualify... It depends on the context, namely "intensity". How intense is the discrimination?

1. If it is like slavery or colonialization, then fight back--violently. There is no other option. But this is the extreme case and you obviously agree with it.

2. Jim Crow or Apartheid? This is another extreme, though lesser scenario. The plight of Jews in Europe and the West is quite relevant here. They just kept their noses to the grindstone and managed to do well, very very well. And yes, they did face a lot of violence akin to blacks being lynched during the Jim Crow era in America.

But of course, modern sensibilities would say even segregation is way too brutal & extreme, thus no one should stand for it. The only question is: Do you fight violently or follow the Ghandi/Martin Luther King model? Here, I prefer the peaceful route, i.e. civil disobedience. The violent path is the path of least resistance. By definition, it is the easy way. The easy way is more often than not--NOT the best way to proceed.

3. Racism in the sense of what's going on today in Western countries, particularly America with racial profiling and what not. This is what you're really addressing above. Here, I agree. Society is still unfair. But if one keeps their nose to the grindstone, i.e. spend all your energy getting ahead in life, instead of constantly reacting to racism, racial profiling, "microinsults" (like blacks being followed by department store employees), and blaming the white man for your lousy grades in school instead of hittin' the books, then you'll actually outcompete the white man eventually becoming his boss. This is what Jews did. Asians are doing this to a lesser extent. We too are outcompeting whites. Blacks would succeed just as much as Jews if they followed the Jewish model, instead of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. A few African American leaders are only beginning to push this now. Bill Cosby is sorta doing this--though I don't agree with his condescending tone.

BTW, if blacks copied Jews, they'd outcompete us Asians too.

Merely b!tching & whining about racism instead of hitting the books, busting yer arse to get that college degree, that MD, that MBA, that PhD, is the path of least resistance. Like I said, the path of least resistance is NOT the best path. It is the lazy, easy way out. Studying hard is not the path of least resistance; it is not the way of immediate self-gratification. It is pragmatic, it is prudent, it is the best way.

Now, I'm not saying one should never speak up when being discriminated, but I definitely believe that given the choice of only crying racism or only studying hard, then one should study hard. Of course, one should do both, but the emphasis must be on studying hard and competing--non whining!

BTW, this is the God damn Holy truth.

P.S. But culture is central here. Jews, Asians, Whites (Calvinist/prostestant work ethic), and even Mexicans came with their culture intact. Blacks came in chains. They lost their culture, which was tribalism to begin with. Tribalism is great if you live in an area of low population density. But once the population grows, cities form and with cities one has all those ills of urbanization, i.e. crime, deviancy, etc. Triablism is ill-equipped to death with the problems of modern societies. Tribalism is about living in harmony with nature, not about the materialistic rat-race of modern cities. But again, Af. Am. don't even have their tribalism to fall back on--they lost it when the white masters chained, whipped and raped their women. Long story short, Af. Americans need to develop a rat race culture, particularly like Jews or Asians. In a white society, one has to outcompete whites so that they are forced to respect you. Those with the gold make the rules. If you make more than the other guy, the other guy has no choice but to respect you.

I disagree with most of what you said, especially the tribalism part, but I do think that black leaders in this country need to be sending a different message to blacks. A part of me thinks this entire was made too big of a deal out of.

thats one botox faced honkey ho

He should've never been fired, free speech is still an American liberty.

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I'm watching this $hit on the news and it's disgusting. Give me a fu-king break, there's a WAR going on in the world. And this is news???? What's happening to the world.

Free speech is indeed a liberty however do you know what the term free speech refers to? It means that GOVERNMENT has no right to limit a person's free speech or punish them for it. His firing is done by a privately owned corporation who have every right to fire him. He can say whatever he wants but his bosses have every right to let him go when he does something that might harm the company suchs as making such statements which in turn lead to loss of sponsers and bad press.

However I agree this shouldn't tkae up so much fu-king news. fu-king useless wedge issues that take precedence over much more pressing matters than some old fart who said some mean on the radio. This shouldn't recieve so much fu-king attention.

It's a dumb comment, but I don't think he should have suffered that much for it.

The black community, esp those morons named je$$e jack$on and al $harpton (money grabbers), are just making a big hooplah over this incident. Funny how blacks always get riled up when people aren't trying to be very racist towards them. It's also funny how the media always caters towards the blacks when they are picked on, but don't give a rat's @$$ about us Asians when people make racial insults toward us.

Just remember that Jay Leno incident 4 years ago when he made fun of Koreans eating dogs.

Just remember that fat lesbo douchebag rosie o'd!ckhead who made that "Ching-chon-ching" comment on her gay show.

Just remember adam corolla the crackhead who mocked Asians as well.

What do they all have in common? They never got fired from their jobs.

HOWEVER, I do agree that imus the a-hole needs to be fired for his insensitive remarks. If I were one of those female black rutger b-ball players, I wouldn't mind smacking the living sh_t out of imus.

asians are passive and humble. alot of asians aren't really socially aware of whats going on they just go about within their own personal lives ; therefore they wouldn't know or care to begin with. and even if they know, they wont do much. blacks , hispanics and jews on the otherhand , voice themselves together and are aggressive about it.


asians have decent money and education but are not organized culturally like the jews.

Why should they???? What do Asian do for them?? I hear way too many Asians talk exactly like white people when it comes to blacks. It's sickening. Jackson and Sharpton may not be saints or even the most qualified spokesmen for blacks but they are not morons. They use the media extremely well to make their point. You don't have to like them but you DO have to respect them. If you acquire a public life and make a statement about blacks and you find out Sharpton wants to talk to you in public, it's time to worry. He could ruin your rep overnight. I would think Asians should be looking at Jesse and Al and think, "Those guys may be a couple of flaming arsholes but--damn--we gotta start getting vocal like that!" But noooo, let's just roll our eyes and starting talking like white people, "How they get everything and we don't get nuthin--wah?" Cuz they know how to get things done--that's how. Asians obviously don't. They're happy being second-class white people with beautiful women.



And what Asian-American leaders grabbed the media spotlight to shame Leno into apologizing with the usual, "I'm not a racist. I have Asian friends. I was just trying to make a funny." Nobody.



Ditto.



Ditto.



Because Asians didn't make enough waves. Then our white friends might start to think about us like they think about black people and--god--black people suck!



He's been doing it for years. He should have canned after his first broadcast. I heard one once and it was racist as hell. They drag race into everything. That McGurk motherfu-ker is worse than Imus except he's paid to be so that Imus can feed off him. He's said worse than this, I really don't know why he found it so important to apologize now when he never did before--and he'd probably kept his job and nothing would have changed.

Blackass can say whatever they want to about other races. But when someone says something bad about them, they cry foul. They get no respect from me.