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Federico
Richard Gere gets his the old fashioned way. embarassedlaugh.gif
Henry123
QUOTE(Bhaskara @ Apr 28 2007, 03:28 AM) *
It's normal for a foreigner to honor the values and norms of his host country. I think that old fart should apologize sure.gif

He actually did make an apology (even befor the warrant was issue for his arrest).
Henry123
QUOTE(Balaputradewa @ Apr 28 2007, 04:23 AM) *
I think Mr. Gere should have been more considerate about his actions.

I think he was just damn ignorant.
Warrior10
Gere was all over here like a horny old man...haha

Jackie Chan...he's classy with a nice chaste kiss:



and he even gets some in return:

noyume
^lol! i love his facial expression in the last.
Tenjikuronin
Nobody complained about Jackie Chan because he didn't try to grope Mallika.....
ACMILAN1983
One thing that I don't understand about all this. Gere is a Buddhist and apparently has visited the Dalai Lama in the past. Surely during his visits he would be more aware of the culture.
Jasel
I think he apologized and the entire thing should just be let go. Maybe he is a little culturally ignorant but I still think some people there overreacted. Jail time and burning $hit in the streets over a kiss?? That just seems a little overkill.
pecotosumairu
Felt sorry for Shilpa, looked like she was forced to smile in front of the cameras while being groped by Gere.

QUOTE(Warrior10 @ Apr 28 2007, 04:15 PM) *
Gere was all over here like a horny old man...haha

Jackie Chan...he's classy with a nice chaste kiss:



and he even gets some in return:



embarassedlaugh.gif
planxty
Shilpa seems to bring bad luck to the Western celebrities she meets recently.
First Jade Goody, now Richard Gere. A pattern is emerging lol icon_wink.gif
kollision
QUOTE(Warrior10 @ Apr 28 2007, 04:15 PM) *
Gere was all over here like a horny old man...haha

Jackie Chan...he's classy with a nice chaste kiss:



and he even gets some in return:



Malika did say she liked asian men biggthumpup.gif biggthumpup.gif biggthumpup.gif
ljes
QUOTE(kollision @ Apr 30 2007, 04:22 PM) *
Malika did say she liked asian men biggthumpup.gif biggthumpup.gif biggthumpup.gif


yeah considering that she is asian
kollision
QUOTE(ljes @ Apr 30 2007, 08:39 PM) *
yeah considering that she is asian


I think she was talking in regards to stereotypical asians..Chinese, Koreans, etc. Would be pointless for her to bring that up if it wasnt, especially in regards to Chan. Plus she made it sound like something foreign.
celina
QUOTE(kollision @ Apr 17 2007, 12:22 PM) *
Just saw this on the news today. Crazy stuff. Just as bad as the Muslims, actually I find this worse. I also heard about how they tried to burn down the Cricket players house because he didnt do well in the game. Friggin fanatics.


really? If this happened in Saudi Arabia, he would have been beheaded, instead he gets a few right-wingers pissed. Most people don't care about Shilpa or Gere. I think there's a major difference from how this played out in india and how it would've played out somewhere in the middle east. Not to mention, that if you travel to a foreign country you need to respect their laws. Or else, not go there. Wether you like it or not.
celina
QUOTE(Jasel @ Apr 29 2007, 10:32 AM) *
I think he apologized and the entire thing should just be let go. Maybe he is a little culturally ignorant but I still think some people there overreacted. Jail time and burning $hit in the streets over a kiss?? That just seems a little overkill.

and there's always the option of staying out of other people countries. whether you see it as a big deal or not. something you consider a big deal, might not be a big deal to me. To each its own. He's been to india many times, why he would do something like this I don't understand.
celina
QUOTE(ktchong @ Apr 18 2007, 09:55 AM) *
You people need to chill. He's just being over-friendly. It's not like he had sex with Shilpa Shetty on stage. It's just kissing.

What will you do if some White dude marry an Indian movie star? Riot?


A kiss is just a kiss to you. You might think eating dog is not a big deal. But in the west it's considered disgusting. It's all about POV.

lol, misery loves company. You want indian women to pair off with white man, so you can get your women back from white guys. Sorry, it won't happen. After they're done with white men they'll move on to blacks. embarassedlaugh.gif
Tenjikuronin
^ Please don't triple post!

Thanks.
Jagger
QUOTE(Warrior10 @ Apr 28 2007, 10:15 PM) *
Gere was all over here like a horny old man...haha

Jackie Chan...he's classy with a nice chaste kiss:



and he even gets some in return:


Richard Gere wasn't trying to grope Shilpa, but was trying to do a Bollywood-style pose.

Jackie Chan is from a culture that can relate to Indian culture, so he would probably understand it better.

QUOTE(kollision @ May 1 2007, 06:07 PM) *
I think she was talking in regards to stereotypical asians..Chinese, Koreans, etc. Would be pointless for her to bring that up if it wasnt, especially in regards to Chan. Plus she made it sound like something foreign.

In India, stereotypical "Asians" would usually mean South Asians (their own kind). Where did you hear her say this?
ACMILAN1983
QUOTE(Jagger @ May 5 2007, 04:58 AM) *
In India, stereotypical "Asians" would usually mean South Asians (their own kind). Where did you hear her say this?


I'm guessing kollision is from the US icon_wink.gif
Jagger
QUOTE(ACMILAN1983 @ May 5 2007, 09:55 AM) *
I'm guessing kollision is from the US icon_wink.gif

I know, but I was just pointing out that the American usage of Asian is meaningless outside of North America.
JuicyFruit
QUOTE(Jagger @ May 5 2007, 05:24 PM) *
I know, but I was just pointing out that the American usage of Asian is meaningless outside of North America.


False. I'm pretty sure everyone outside of the US uses that definition because of American influence, except the UK and South Africa.
etano
Indian authorities have much more important and serious issues to pay attention to than this little incident. I don't see why this has be to be seen as indecent act. If this is the case, then why are bollywood allowed to churn out movies containing violence and sex. Very often we see violence fight in Indian movies and actresses very thin sari drenched in the rain leaving nothing for imagination. Richard was in India for a good cause but was rewarded with such an unbelieavle response from Indian authorities.
Jagger
QUOTE(JuicyFruit @ May 6 2007, 02:11 AM) *
False. I'm pretty sure everyone outside of the US uses that definition because of American influence, except the UK and South Africa.

Wrong. Do some research before making any bold claims like that. Like I said, the American usage of "Asian" is meaningless outside of North America, especially in Europe, Southern Asia, Africa, Caribbean, New Zealand, Malaysia, Singapore, etc.
JuicyFruit
QUOTE(Jagger @ May 6 2007, 01:16 AM) *
Wrong. Do some research before making any bold claims like that. Like I said, the American usage of "Asian" is meaningless outside of North America, especially in Europe, Southern Asia, Africa, Caribbean, New Zealand, Malaysia, Singapore, etc.


Take your own advice. Almost every single place you mentioned has significant Indian populations. What about places that don't have significant populations of South or East Asians, like South America? They use the American definition, so the "meaningless outside of North America" claim is BS. And "especially Europe"? People outside of the UK say "Asiatic" and when they use the word they refer to East Asians. As for NZ, East Asians are definitely referred to as "Asian" there. I'm sure South Asians are also, but this was about whether or not the American definition was valid there or not.

BTW, this is about common definition. Here in the US, South Asians check off the Asian box, but aren't commonly referred to as Asian by the average person.
mndeg

why is he so red?

i think his actions were inappropriate even in american culture.
Jagger
QUOTE(JuicyFruit @ May 6 2007, 03:49 PM) *
Take your own advice. Almost every single place you mentioned has significant Indian populations. What about places that don't have significant populations of South or East Asians, like South America? They use the American definition, so the "meaningless outside of North America" claim is BS. And "especially Europe"? People outside of the UK say "Asiatic" and when they use the word they refer to East Asians. As for NZ, East Asians are definitely referred to as "Asian" there. I'm sure South Asians are also, but this was about whether or not the American definition was valid there or not.

BTW, this is about common definition. Here in the US, South Asians check off the Asian box, but aren't commonly referred to as Asian by the average person.

You were the one claiming most of the world uses the American definition, but haven't yet given any examples that actually back up your claim.

South America is not a neutral region either. Most of the Latin-speaking countries there have larger East Asian populations. However, those countries do not commonly speak English, so I doubt the word Asian would be used there. The only countries there that do commonly speak English are former British colonies that have larger South Asian populations.

Besides the UK which uses the term Asian specifically for Southern Asians, other European countries (the ones that use English) use the term Asian to refer more broadly to the whole of Asia, including the Middle East. New Zealand classifies all peoples from Southern and Eastern Asia as Asians. The only English-speaking countries that use the term Asian specifically for Eastern Asians are America, Canada, and Australia, due to the larger Eastern Asian populations there, but even their governments still include South Asians as Asian. In other words, the American usage of "Asian" (exclusively for Eastern Asians) is meaningless outside of North America.
JuicyFruit
QUOTE(Jagger @ May 6 2007, 06:41 PM) *
However, those countries do not commonly speak English, so I doubt the word Asian would be used there.


English is spoken there by many because of spread of American culture. In fact, English is spoken almost everywhere...

QUOTE(Jagger @ May 6 2007, 06:41 PM) *
other European countries (the ones that use English) use the term Asian to refer more broadly to the whole of Asia, including the Middle East.


On forms, but when the average English-speaking person there says "Asian," would he/she probably be referring to an East Asian? Yes. Also, doesn't France have a significant number of Middle Eastern immigrants? They're not referred to as "Asian" there. confused.gif

QUOTE(Jagger @ May 6 2007, 06:41 PM) *
New Zealand classifies all peoples from Southern and Eastern Asia as Asians.


So does North America; this is about common use of the term not the way it's used formally.

QUOTE(Jagger @ May 6 2007, 06:41 PM) *
The only English-speaking countries that use the term Asian specifically for Eastern Asians are America, Canada, and Australia, due to the larger Eastern Asian populations there, but even their governments still include South Asians as Asian. In other words, the American usage of "Asian" (exclusively for Eastern Asians) is meaningless outside of North America.


This is all a moot point. You used NZ as an example of a country that doesn't use the North America rule, but confirmed that NZ classifies both South and East Asians as "Asians," which North America does also. It's just that when the average person here says "Asian," he/she will probably be referring to East Asians unless he/she says otherwise. This is done a lot more people outside of North America do than you seem to think...
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(JuicyFruit @ May 5 2007, 08:11 PM) *
False. I'm pretty sure everyone outside of the US uses that definition because of American influence, except the UK and South Africa.



In India, they don't go by that definition. confused.gif
Jagger
QUOTE(JuicyFruit @ May 6 2007, 11:31 PM) *
English is spoken there by many because of spread of American culture. In fact, English is spoken almost everywhere...
On forms, but when the average English-speaking person there says "Asian," would he/she probably be referring to an East Asian? Yes. Also, doesn't France have a significant number of Middle Eastern immigrants? They're not referred to as "Asian" there. confused.gif
So does North America; this is about common use of the term not the way it's used formally.
This is all a moot point. You used NZ as an example of a country that doesn't use the North America rule, but confirmed that NZ classifies both South and East Asians as "Asians," which North America does also. It's just that when the average person here says "Asian," he/she will probably be referring to East Asians unless he/she says otherwise. This is done a lot more people outside of North America do than you seem to think...

Bottom line:

Countries with larger Eastern Asian populations usually use "Asian" to refer to Eastern Asians.

Countries with larger Southern Asian populations usually use "Asian" to refer to Southern Asians.

Note: The word "Asian" is not commonly used in non-English-speaking countries. Also, in France, the largest minority are North African, not Middle Eastern.
JuicyFruit
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ May 6 2007, 08:28 PM) *
In India, they don't go by that definition. confused.gif


Of course. I'm talking about countries outside of Asia. icon_wink.gif

QUOTE(Jagger @ May 6 2007, 09:11 PM) *
Bottom line:

Countries with larger Eastern Asian populations usually use "Asian" to refer to Eastern Asians.

Countries with larger Southern Asian populations usually use "Asian" to refer to Southern Asians.


Note: The word "Asian" is not commonly used in non-English-speaking countries.


Like I said before, English is being spoken and used in countries all over the world thanks to the spread of American culture and the Internet. So I'm aware that the stuff in bold is true, but my point is that the average person from many countries without significant populations of either are starting to use "Asian" to refer to East Asians thanks to American influence.
ACMILAN1983
and in the end, the whole argument becomes pointless because we're all Asian, and so in reality, to only refer to certain ethnic groups of Asians with the term Asian is to be wrong.

Also does it really matter whether Malaika sherawat was talking about South Asian or East Asian men? She's probably willing to fu-k both at the end of the day. icon_wink.gif
VAMAN
Kiss-and-grovel routine from Gere
Rajat Bhattacharjee,
Email Author
New Delhi, April 26, 2007

Richard Gere says he is sorry. Following the controversy over his kissing actress Shilpa Shetty on stage during an AIDS awareness event in the Capital a fortnight ago, Gere on Friday offered to apologise.

The Hollywood actor’s reaction came a day after a Jaipur court issued an arrest warrant against him for having “transcended all limits of vulgarity”.

“What is most important to me is that my intentions as an HIV/AIDS advocate be made clear. It has never been, nor could it ever be, my intention to offend. If that had happened, of course it is easy for me to offer a sincere apology,” Gere said in a statement. “The event in question was intended to celebrate courageous people and partnerships in the supremely important fight against HIV/AIDS, a worldwide pandemic which has afflicted over 5 million Indians.”

Gere said he was sorry Shetty was targeted for no fault of hers. He said his kisses were a “clumsy attempt at a Shall We Dance move and a naive misread of Indian customs”.

On Thursday, Gere had hit out at the Shiv Sena, which had organised protests against him. “There is a very small, right-wing, very conservative political party in India, and they are the moral police in India, and they do this kind of thing quite often,” Gere told a US TV show.

SOURCE - HidustanTimes.com
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