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sha01

How do you feel about Filipinos?
As a Korean-American or a Korean from Korea.

How would you feel if a Filipino tried to break into your entertainment?
(for instance, like becoming the next BoA, or whatever.)

What do you think of their personalities/attitudes?
yaburihong
sorry...
indeed i dont know well filipino sure.gif
enomosiki
QUOTE(sha01 @ Apr 19 2007, 03:05 AM) *
How do you feel about Filipinos?
As a Korean-American or a Korean from Korea.

How would you feel if a Filipino tried to break into your entertainment?
(for instance, like becoming the next BoA, or whatever.)

What do you think of their personalities/attitudes?


Koreans aren't very social outside of their small circle of friends and/or associates, and they rarely come in contact with other Asian ethnicities. So I doubt that most Koreans actually feel anything negative towards Filipinos, while not feeling anything positive towards them, either. It's best described as simply "ignoring".
frozen_korean
QUOTE(enomosiki @ Apr 19 2007, 03:57 AM) *

Koreans aren't very social outside of their small circle of friends and/or associates, and they rarely come in contact with other Asian ethnicities. So I doubt that most Koreans actually feel anything negative towards Filipinos, while not feeling anything positive towards them, either. It's best described as simply "ignoring".


im ok for fillipinos doing good in their home but in korea, its where koreans rule, not philipinos and it will stay that way because koreas population is already 2 large for its own good.
holysh33t
they're pretty nice and cool in my opinion.
namjanurse7
well honestly for me i see them as a Hispanic then Asian.
i didnt have good experiences with them my younger years. so not so good for me but i do have many filipino nurse friends icon_smile.gif
daidai
QUOTE(sha01 @ Apr 19 2007, 02:05 AM) *

How do you feel about Filipinos?
As a Korean-American or a Korean from Korea.

How would you feel if a Filipino tried to break into your entertainment?
(for instance, like becoming the next BoA, or whatever.)

What do you think of their personalities/attitudes?



There's no foreigner in S.K music industry. Good luck.
frozen_korean
exactly. most foreigners in SK are here to work under major companies as laborers or provide wives for men farmers. usually there arent many young foriegners in korea, they are usually migrant workers who work hard to feed their family overseas. so there are not enough people to be able to qualify as a profesional musician in korea because of small size of foriener population. the music industry in japan is more diverse (lots of koreans) but still mostly japanese.

also, not to mention unless you are VERY talented then you have no hope in SK. no korean is gonna listen to some filipino person perform a semi-decent song in filipino or broken korean.
Eastern Knight
I have met some but never really got to know them, so I cant judge
no one
Trust me, SE Asians are treated like subhumans in Korea and probably they will be treated like one if tried to do something specially in music industry. So don't hope to become one because Korean culture is very sophisticated and refined. Not only that, you'll be tarnishing Korean image.
babyshanker
QUOTE(no one @ Apr 20 2007, 06:41 AM) *

Trust me, SE Asians are treated like subhumans in Korea and probably they will be treated like one if tried to do something specially in music industry. So don't hope to become one because Korean culture is very sophisticated and refined. Not only that, you'll be tarnishing Korean image.

eek.gif w0rd?
doggyji
QUOTE(no one @ Apr 20 2007, 07:41 AM) *
Trust me, SE Asians are treated like subhumans in Korea.
There are ignorant people but there are as many nice people, too. That was a weird statement. As for a phillipino trying to become a musician in Korea, of course, s/he has to have something very unique to stand out with perfect language skills. Then who knows.
frozen_korean
nah man it wont work. only koreans, japanese and MAYBE chinese have a chance to be famous musician in korea. other people dont have a chance. SE asians are still discrimitated against in south korea. there is no anti-discrimination laws in korea iirc.
surf101
QUOTE(namjanurse7 @ Apr 19 2007, 12:14 PM) *
well honestly for me i see them as a Hispanic then Asian.
i didnt have good experiences with them my younger years. so not so good for me but i do have many filipino nurse friends icon_smile.gif


For you. But in real life, they're considered pacific islanders/asian. If the Spanish conquered and colonized our country and we got Spanish last names, we still would be considered Asian. That's just the way it is.
sha01
QUOTE(frozen_korean @ Apr 20 2007, 06:47 PM) *
nah man it wont work. only koreans, japanese and MAYBE chinese have a chance to be famous musician in korea. other people dont have a chance. SE asians are still discrimitated against in south korea. there is no anti-discrimination laws in korea iirc.


If this were really the case; talking about "MAYBE chinese", why was Zhang Li Yin / Jang Ri In able to become the first Chinese under SM Entertainment (the label that BoA's under)? Even Lee Soo Man called her the next BoA. If I remember, there are also one or two Chinese boys in the Korean band Super Junior, which is also under the label SM Entertainment. If you look at BoA's first couple of songs: ID; Peace B, SARA, I'm Sorry and a couple other songs on the "Don't Start Now" album, they're all done in Korean, Chinese and English.. except for ID; Peace B which was her first single, and of course it's typical for SM to make their artists sing in all four: Korean, English, Japanese and Chinese. But why would they not like the Chinese if they're obviously trying to imput their own artists into China, and trying to make them learn the language and even start BoA's acting career in China? According to an interview with Lee Soo Man, the reason why he said that he wants to get his talents over to China is because "China will soon be the US"... I don't even know what the heck that means, but whatever. If you want proof... it's somewhere on boajjang.

And why would SM Entertainment even hold global auditions in Malaysia and Thailand (or wherever it was)? Is it so that the Koreans don't look bad because they're "accepting" other people, but are going to drop them anyway during their training or before their debut because they're not one of their own? I was told and I do believe that Koreans are nationalistic and stuff like that, but if they're so "close" with their country, why would they send their kids and why would they do business in the Philippines? Is it because it's so cheap down there and so their kids can learn English?

My friend really wants to do this... this "popstar" thing. She doesn't even look like the average Filipino, not even one person thought she was Filipino, is usually mistaken for Chinese/Japanese/Taiwanese and one time Korean by other Asians (including Chinese/Koreans/Japanese) she's light skinned, doesn't have a flat nose (no offense, but this DOES seem like a pretty big deal in East Asian countries), is incredibly talented (imo), and her Korean even when she sings is understandable. She can read it, but she just can't translate it into English what she's sayin. She said that the reason she wants to do this is so she can break this cultural barrier thing. Her dad totally flipped when she asked him if she could go to the SM Global Auditions last year, but she said that she's not giving up on this. I partly support her, but I also think she should give it up, because of the reasons that people above already mentioned... like how they are basically discriminated against, and I'm afraid that she will be viewed as she once mentioned "a Japayuki", a Filipino girl that works in Japan. But in this case, it's Korea. She also feels uncomfortable because I think that she knows that she won't be accepted there, but she's one of those girls that don't give up on things... and she feels that she would partly be betraying the Philippines if she were able to become famous there.

What could she possibly do to make them accept her there?
frozen_korean
err. i seriously dont know any koreans that like chinese songs its the other way around. chinese people like korean songs but they like chinese songs as well. most koreans like korean+american+maybe Japanese songs but not others GENERALY speaking.
kaizen
I know this one korean kid who likes to listen to jay chou's songs. but that's more like taiwanese song than chinese.
frozen_korean
also why are there like 700,000 SE asians in korea? like wtf. stay in your own countries unless your coming here for a good cause. are there that many koreans in SE asia? no. youll probably find a better life in america or australia, no discrimination there.
holysh33t
QUOTE(frozen_korean @ Apr 21 2007, 03:03 AM) *
also why are there like 700,000 SE asians in korea? like wtf. stay in your own countries unless your coming here for a good cause. are there that many koreans in SE asia? no. youll probably find a better life in america or australia, no discrimination there.

there are tons of discriminations in america and austrailia too. hell there's even discrimination in canada.
*promo
QUOTE(frozen_korean @ Apr 21 2007, 12:03 AM) *
also why are there like 700,000 SE asians in korea? like wtf. stay in your own countries unless your coming here for a good cause. are there that many koreans in SE asia? no. youll probably find a better life in america or australia, no discrimination there.



really so tell your grandpa not to retire in Philipines then. Philipines has about 200,000 korean living there a total of 500,000 + studying there. i don't know how old you are but Philipines and Korea has a decent relationship, but i think it should be changed. so think you should read up before you start b!tching about things.
CJK
dont mind him.

he doesnt know jack.
sha01
QUOTE(*promo @ Apr 21 2007, 12:43 PM) *
really so tell your grandpa not to retire in Philipines then. Philipines has about 200,000 korean living there a total of 500,000 + studying there. i don't know how old you are but Philipines and Korea has a decent relationship, but i think it should be changed. so think you should read up before you start b!tching about things.


exactly, biggthumpup.gif but changed as in how? you said, "but i think it should be changed.", as in better or worse? and there's this one girl in the philippines that's korean... something sandra park or something that got famous there in the philippines, if there's like 200,000 koreans living in the philippines, and there's probably a lot too in korea, why can't it be the other way? but of course, park lived in the philippines before hand. and i think the reason why park was able to become famous so fast and easy was because the filipinos are so hospitable, they'll take anyone and that's how easy it is in the philippines. (i guess that's why she'd (the girl that wants to be a popstar) rather fight a bigger battle by trying to be a popstar in korea than the philippines...)
*promo
QUOTE(sha01 @ Apr 21 2007, 10:08 AM) *
exactly, biggthumpup.gif but changed as in how? you said, "but i think it should be changed.", as in better or worse? and there's this one girl in the philippines that's korean... something sandra park or something that got famous there in the philippines, if there's like 200,000 koreans living in the philippines, and there's probably a lot too in korea, why can't it be the other way? but of course, park lived in the philippines before hand. and i think the reason why park was able to become famous so fast and easy was because the filipinos are so hospitable (so true, it what makes us Filipinos we have Compassion for humanity), they'll take anyone and that's how easy it is in the philippines. (i guess that's why she'd (the girl that wants to be a popstar) rather fight a bigger battle by trying to be a popstar in korea than the philippines...)



just look into my topics. I don't hate Koreans but there is that thing as common respect especially when your in someone else land. There are Filipinos in Korea but not as much as Philipines have Koreans. Some just go there for English Education and some get stuck b/c of the life style, these wold be the girls.

yeah Ms. Park story is that her Father failed in korea and goes to Philipines, sends for his family. She studied in a Chinese school, i don't knoe but i think some Filipina discovered her and thought she can be a star. so that the beginning her career. after that i think she made choice of going to korea to become a star there, I'm sure she failed and she went back home. i think when her fans learned of this she was hated after she came back home.


oh please don't turn it flame thread.
intercar
QUOTE(sha01 @ Apr 19 2007, 03:05 AM) *
How do you feel about Filipinos?
As a Korean-American or a Korean from Korea.

How would you feel if a Filipino tried to break into your entertainment?
(for instance, like becoming the next BoA, or whatever.)

What do you think of their personalities/attitudes?


some of the big international chain hotel have filipina entertainers. for example, the pub in the intercontinental
hotel in seoul usually has a great filipina band. the singers are great and they usually do korean, western and some filipina songs. I've never seen filipina entertainers on korean tv. there are tons of chinese TV dramas on and quite a bunch of japanese programming also.

chinese and japanese singers are not so popular in korea, except for a few japanese boy bands, I believe. I think a filipina singer would have a hard time breaking into the korean market. It is afterall a much smaller market than the japanese market. the japanese entertainment market, because it's so much bigger, would probably be a better place to start an international career. boa started there as did some korean entertainers who did not make it at first in korea. good luck to her biggthumpup.gif

QUOTE(no one @ Apr 20 2007, 07:41 AM) *
Trust me, SE Asians are treated like subhumans in Korea and probably they will be treated like one if tried to do something specially in music industry. So don't hope to become one because Korean culture is very sophisticated and refined. Not only that, you'll be tarnishing Korean image.


koreans are by and large focused on korean and western entertainment. It's not about being "tarnished" by other countries. "No One" is I guess not a native speaker of English so he/she uses wrong language, I guess biggthumpup.gif .

Also, obviously, the tastes and preferences of each country is different. For example, hard rock is more popular in japan whereas hip-hop is more popular in korea. That difference in musical taste has nothing to do with "tarnishing" image, LOL.

QUOTE(sha01 @ Apr 20 2007, 10:37 PM) *
If this were really the case; talking about "MAYBE chinese", why was Zhang Li Yin / Jang Ri In able to become the first Chinese under SM Entertainment (the label that BoA's under)? Even Lee Soo Man called her the next BoA. If I remember, there are also one or two Chinese boys in the Korean band Super Junior, which is also under the label SM Entertainment. If you look at BoA's first couple of songs: ID; Peace B, SARA, I'm Sorry and a couple other songs on the "Don't Start Now" album, they're all done in Korean, Chinese and English.. except for ID; Peace B which was her first single, and of course it's typical for SM to make their artists sing in all four: Korean, English, Japanese and Chinese. But why would they not like the Chinese if they're obviously trying to imput their own artists into China, and trying to make them learn the language and even start BoA's acting career in China? According to an interview with Lee Soo Man, the reason why he said that he wants to get his talents over to China is because "China will soon be the US"... I don't even know what the heck that means, but whatever. If you want proof... it's somewhere on boajjang.

And why would SM Entertainment even hold global auditions in Malaysia and Thailand (or wherever it was)? Is it so that the Koreans don't look bad because they're "accepting" other people, but are going to drop them anyway during their training or before their debut because they're not one of their own? I was told and I do believe that Koreans are nationalistic and stuff like that, but if they're so "close" with their country, why would they send their kids and why would they do business in the Philippines? Is it because it's so cheap down there and so their kids can learn English?

My friend really wants to do this... this "popstar" thing. She doesn't even look like the average Filipino, not even one person thought she was Filipino, is usually mistaken for Chinese/Japanese/Taiwanese and one time Korean by other Asians (including Chinese/Koreans/Japanese) she's light skinned, doesn't have a flat nose (no offense, but this DOES seem like a pretty big deal in East Asian countries), is incredibly talented (imo), and her Korean even when she sings is understandable. She can read it, but she just can't translate it into English what she's sayin. She said that the reason she wants to do this is so she can break this cultural barrier thing. Her dad totally flipped when she asked him if she could go to the SM Global Auditions last year, but she said that she's not giving up on this. I partly support her, but I also think she should give it up, because of the reasons that people above already mentioned... like how they are basically discriminated against, and I'm afraid that she will be viewed as she once mentioned "a Japayuki", a Filipino girl that works in Japan. But in this case, it's Korea. She also feels uncomfortable because I think that she knows that she won't be accepted there, but she's one of those girls that don't give up on things... and she feels that she would partly be betraying the Philippines if she were able to become famous there.

What could she possibly do to make them accept her there?

she has to go to a lot of auditions. that's how korean new talent break into the scene. or she has to be really beautiful, haha, superficial but true.
no one
QUOTE(*promo @ Apr 21 2007, 11:43 AM) *
really so tell your grandpa not to retire in Philipines then. Philipines has about 200,000 korean living there a total of 500,000 + studying there. i don't know how old you are but Philipines and Korea has a decent relationship, but i think it should be changed. so think you should read up before you start b!tching about things.



Since when Korea has good relationship with Philippines? What Korean dare to say Korea has good relationship with Philippines unless he's a SE Asian? And another thing you are ignoring is the different positions here. While Koreans a higher level people, filipinos are not. That's the difference, we don't feel proud of other races going to Korea while you feel flattered when Koreans go to Philippines.


QUOTE
koreans are by and large focused on korean and western entertainment. It's not about being "tarnished" by other countries. "No One" is I guess not a native speaker of English so he/she uses wrong language, I guess biggthumpup.gif .

Also, obviously, the tastes and preferences of each country is different. For example, hard rock is more popular in japan whereas hip-hop is more popular in korea. That difference in musical taste has nothing to do with "tarnishing" image, LOL.



I don't want to waste my time with the likes of you. But I'll say this: "Don't twist my words".
Hi Tone
QUOTE(no one @ Apr 22 2007, 12:24 PM) *
Since when Korea has good relationship with Philippines? What Korean dare to say Korea has good relationship with Philippines unless he's a SE Asian? And another thing you are ignoring is the different positions here. While Koreans a higher level people, filipinos are not. That's the difference, we don't feel proud of other races going to Korea while you feel flattered when Koreans go to Philippines.
I don't want to waste my time with the likes of you. But I'll say this: "Don't twist my words".

flattered lol, I could care less for Koreans. I wish you guys would just go away
*promo
lol i'm not even gonna even bother, he doesn't even know his own country's history.....hahaha what sad @$$.
northwestern_student
this can only go worse
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