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kauzilla
Thanks for your replies ppl.... heheeh... i've found the answers to this!!! =) i appreciate it hehehe
MobiusRevolution
Sisasovong sounds more like a Lao surname. Not sure it can be Thai, but more likely it would be Lao. Maybe you have some Lao ancestry in your family.
lilasiankid
Anyone know what's up with the last names like: Mouachupao, Suadavang, and etc etc can't remember the rest.
vanggirlie
back in the old days hmong takes their mother's last name (i think) and put it with their father's last name. so like if your mother is a moua and your father is a vang then it'll be mouavang. wait but i'm not sure if it's the mother's last name tho. well it's another last name with your father's last name.

ex: Touly Vangkue the singer - Vang and Kue are last names.
ex: Touly Lyfoung the hmong leader back in the old day - Ly and Foung (well i'm not sure how it's spelled in hmong)

altho i am not sure about Sisasovong or Suadavang tho.

maybe someone knows more...sorry...
kauzilla
QUOTE(vanggirlie @ Apr 23 2007, 06:20 AM) *
back in the old days hmong takes their mother's last name (i think) and put it with their father's last name. so like if your mother is a moua and your father is a vang then it'll be mouavang. wait but i'm not sure if it's the mother's last name tho. well it's another last name with your father's last name.

ex: Touly Vangkue the singer - Vang and Kue are last names.
ex: Touly Lyfoung the hmong leader back in the old day - Ly and Foung (well i'm not sure how it's spelled in hmong)

altho i am not sure about Sisasovong or Suadavang tho.

maybe someone knows more...sorry...



OOoO.. never knew that.. but hey its a start thanks ... any more info would help =)
babyshanker
if suadavang had vong instead of vang it would definately sound like Lao ethnic name. but Sisasovong sound like a Lao surname. i think i knew a girl from VTE with that same last name.
HmOnG_BbOy
QUOTE(kauzilla @ Apr 20 2007, 07:29 AM) *
ok.. i'm hoping someone can help me out...... i've been doing a family research.... on my family history... n i came across something that dont make sense..... from my dad's side my grandfather's last name is actually sisasovong... n my grandma's last name is chu (i know there are some chu's out there so i'm ok with that last name).... but my dad's last name is vang... so i'm thinking.. hold up this dont make sense.... so i ask my dad about it.. he's like sisasovong is same as vang... n all my cousins and relative's last name is vang... so i asked.. was grandpa adopted or adopted into the vang clan? .. then my dad goes.. no he's full blooded hmong.. ... n nobody was adopted.. i have blood uncle with last name vang ..everyone's blood related...biological parents.... so have anyone heard of that (sisasovong) last name before? or was it like a sur last name? oh yeah n i asked my dad if it was a misprint too but he says it isnt?.. weird.... ( i cant ask my grandpa b/c he no longer exist n my granny says its vang too.. gosh...everything connects except for this -_-')

Well i think your dad has that name because its spelled in laotian i believe. Its like coming to the U.S. and you say your name is Xiong and they spell it as Xong but you dont correct them cuz you dont know their langauge so well.

But the main thing that pops in my head about that last name is that it probably came from your grandpa's dad's name.....for example the Mouatoua, they are a moua clan but they put in the toua as a sign of their grandfather's name and thats y they have the mouatoua clan....if your not from kali i dont think there are a lot of mouatoua out of state not so sure.....it goes something like that not sure.....

Or that last name could be the villiage that your grandfather came from another example is the moua clan some of them are also called mouapang. They put the village that they lived in with their last name because i think that when people ask whats your name, hmong people usually answer but saying their name and what village their from. This is more of the older generation........

Well thats what i have to offer
yajthaugluv
That's a Lao name. Pretty sure your parents adopted that name.
vanggirlie
oh yea i've heard of hmong people adopting laotian last names during the vietnam war after americans left SEA.
jinglebells
omg, sisasovong sounds more like lao/thai.. maybe ur grandpa mixed or something.. weird. sisasovong is Vang? never heard of it.. interesting! thanks
for sharing, i don't know any other uncommon last names..
AzuraRayne
QUOTE(vanggirlie @ Apr 23 2007, 09:20 AM) *
back in the old days hmong takes their mother's last name (i think) and put it with their father's last name. so like if your mother is a moua and your father is a vang then it'll be mouavang. wait but i'm not sure if it's the mother's last name tho. well it's another last name with your father's last name.

ex: Touly Vangkue the singer - Vang and Kue are last names.
ex: Touly Lyfoung the hmong leader back in the old day - Ly and Foung (well i'm not sure how it's spelled in hmong)

altho i am not sure about Sisasovong or Suadavang tho.

maybe someone knows more...sorry...


Hmong culture is a patrilineal culture, meaning that we inherit and descend through the male side of the family. It would be abhorrent and unacceptable to take on one's mother's last name.

In regards to Laotian-like Hmong surnames, they came about as an effort to assimilate into Laotian/Thai urban life. If your surname reflected those of the people around you, you will be more accepted. Even in America, Hmong people are already taking on western surnames, e.g. Moua = Moore, Vang = Vaughn, Her = Hearn.
vanggirlie
QUOTE(AzuraRayne @ May 8 2007, 05:20 PM) *
Hmong culture is a patrilineal culture, meaning that we inherit and descend through the male side of the family. It would be abhorrent and unacceptable to take on one's mother's last name.

In regards to Laotian-like Hmong surnames, they came about as an effort to assimilate into Laotian/Thai urban life. If your surname reflected those of the people around you, you will be more accepted. Even in America, Hmong people are already taking on western surnames, e.g. Moua = Moore, Vang = Vaughn, Her = Hearn.

i did say that i wasn't sure if it was the mother's last name being added or something else. altho i think what HmOnG_BbOy said made sense. we added our grandfather's name to our last name...i think our grandfather's first name.

i've never heard of hmong taking on american last name (other than brenda song). that's just wrong.
AzuraRayne
QUOTE(vanggirlie @ May 8 2007, 10:27 PM) *
i did say that i wasn't sure if it was the mother's last name being added or something else. altho i think what HmOnG_BbOy said made sense. we added our grandfather's name to our last name...i think our grandfather's first name.

i've never heard of hmong taking on american last name (other than brenda song). that's just wrong.


The only time you would add someone's elses name with yours is when you are verbally identifying yourself.

Example with fake name: "Kuv yog Michael Txooj Pov."

In this example, the person is stating that his name is Michael and that he is the son of Txooj Pov.

A prime example of this is in the movie, Khib Ciaj Khib Tuag. The son, Yig is constantly referred to as Yig Nom Phaj. Yig being his name, and Nom Phaj being his father's name.

BTW, Brenda Song never took on an American last name. Her last name is Song, which is a written variant of Xiong. And yes, there are Hmong people who have changed their lastnames to American lastnames. And also, Touly Vangkhue is not a Vang, he is a Lee. His name is really spelled: Tou Lyvangkhue.
jinglebells
off topic. --- i think tou Lyvangkhue is a "Lee..vang...& a kue..

damn! he got three last names.. the hell.. what's so special about him..

he probably got three mom's.. LOL... icon_smile.gif j/k.. i wonder though..
glVoix
So, what if your parents last name was like Vangxiong. Then, when you have kids and married someone else.. would the name be like..: Vangxiongthaoxiong?

just kinda curious.. lol.
yajthaugluv
There's no such last name like that... Vang is most likely your father's name and Xiong would be your father's last name. If you taboo, than it would be wise to create your new clan. biggthumpup.gif

I totally agree with Vanggirlie, that changing one's own last name is a bad thing.

I think it just goes to show how shameful an individual is about his/her heritage. People should be respectful to our names, it's whom we are and we should be proud of our heritage.
kauzilla
ok to close thread! =)
ZturboZ
Is "Thao" an uncommon Hmong's lastname ?
Benn
QUOTE(ZturboZ @ May 21 2007, 07:55 PM) *
Is "Thao" an uncommon Hmong's lastname ?

Thai and Lao are the same language. It's like speaking Irish and English. They understand one another. Just that one culture has an accent to the other.
Benn
YEs yes, Irish and Scotts originally spoke Gaelic and converted to English.
corky
QUOTE(Benn @ Jun 2 2007, 11:42 PM) *
Thai and Lao are the same language. It's like speaking Irish and English. They understand one another. Just that one culture has an accent to the other.

conas ata tu? ta tu abalta ag caint as gaelige?
(of course you understood that irish icon_rolleyes.gif )
believe me irish is far more similar to thai than to english (not at all)
babyshanker
irish is nothing like english. lao/thai is more like the european/american....or mandarin/canto..or hmong green/white
vanggirlie
i don't think thai and laotian is same as green and white hmong because i don't think i'd understand most of the words spoken by a green hmong person. i think thai and laotian is more like british english and american english.
vanggirlie
QUOTE(AzuraRayne @ May 9 2007, 02:05 AM) *
The only time you would add someone's elses name with yours is when you are verbally identifying yourself.

Example with fake name: "Kuv yog Michael Txooj Pov."

In this example, the person is stating that his name is Michael and that he is the son of Txooj Pov.

A prime example of this is in the movie, Khib Ciaj Khib Tuag. The son, Yig is constantly referred to as Yig Nom Phaj. Yig being his name, and Nom Phaj being his father's name.

BTW, Brenda Song never took on an American last name. Her last name is Song, which is a written variant of Xiong. And yes, there are Hmong people who have changed their lastnames to American lastnames. And also, Touly Vangkhue is not a Vang, he is a Lee. His name is really spelled: Tou Lyvangkhue.

so how many other xyooj write their name as song?
i don't kow if it's true but i heard that to make it easier to be pronounced, their father changed it to song when he knew that common spelling was xiong. it don't matter i guess, whatever float his boat...as long as they take the right last name in hmong.

if only i still remember what my hmong teacher told me about these last names having added names.

sorry about the double post.
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