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millersdude
Was that the result of Chinese/Mongolian migrations to Germany many many years ago? How do you explain it?

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I am a Pennsylvania German, aka Pennsylvania Deustch/Dutch, on all branches of my Pedigree Chart for at least 8 generations. See this link for more on the PA German population group.

http://www.kerchner.com/padutch.htm

My genealogy has been solidly proven via 30 years of traditional genealogical research and also has been verified on the direct male and direct female lines via Y-DNA and mtDNA tests. My Pedigree Chart for 8 generations in all branches is PA German which is a mixture of Germans, French Huguenot, Swiss, and a very small bit of English. The PA Germans lived for generations as an isolated population group in PA who usually married within their own kind, up until my generation. They also had their own language dialect for over 200 years. All my ancestors for 8 generations back lived and intermarried within a 20 mile radius of where I live today, and intermarried within their own kind. My parents were even 4th cousins of each other as are many people from early settlers of the areas of Lehigh and Berks County PA. My parents even spoke the PA German dialect, as did their parents, and their parents, etc. Up until my generation their were very, very few East Asians, i.e., Chinese, Korean, or Japanese in this area. There is no known East Asian marriage or relationships, or even casual contact or even geographic proximity, in any of my lines on my chart. Needless to say, I was very, very surprised with the results of my DNAPrint "geographic ancestry" test results when I received it, and it showed a 21% East Asian content and 79% European instead of a 100% European which I had expected. In discussing this with AncestrybyDNA lab personnel I have learned that surprisingly to them some other PA Germans tested have had similar significant high teen, low 20's% East Asian content results. At present they have no clear explanation as to why.

http://www.familytreedna.com/forum/archive...x.php?t-20.html
moobie
yes, it is.

probably why germans are a little bit smarter :P
aaaw
QUOTE(millersdude @ Apr 27 2007, 04:31 AM) [snapback]2907851[/snapback]
Was that the result of Chinese/Mongolian migrations to Germany many many years ago? How do you explain it?


someone who has stormfront account should post this article over there. embarassedlaugh.gif
Henry123
I believe they did a similar study in Russia and found some Russians to have Mongoloid genes in them too.

02tonyl
the titile is east asian, why is it only Chinese , can it be korean or Japanese ?? btw mongolians are considered central asian not east asian
moobie
Mongolians are probably east asian with some central asian blood in them. Just going by looks alone I guess.
BlueAway
Mongolians are considered East Asian.
froglee
Some Stormfront members will probably get a heart attack after reading this.
snowwolflake
QUOTE(millersdude @ Apr 27 2007, 04:31 PM) [snapback]2907851[/snapback]
Was that the result of Chinese/Mongolian migrations to Germany many many years ago? How do you explain it?



Interesting, biggthumpup.gif

Could a Chinese outpost have existed in Penn. pre-European Colonization of North America?

This is similar in the fact that approx. 81.47% of the people of Southern China have non Han genes in them, reflecting the creeping assimilation of indigenous peoples of the South by the Han majority over 800 centuries.


Did any of this man's family members, (particularly on his father's side), ever live for a period of time greater than one year in Tsingtao, Shandong Province or have a spouse of Han ethnicity?

I'm scratching my head on this one, I'll have to inquire about this the next time I visit the University of Pennsylvania-certainly I don't believe any Chinese would be living in Penn. about 400 years ago (1607), assuming that a generation in those days was about 50yrs (8x50=400yrs).

But then, you never know. laugh.gif

cao_ni_mao
Boy you people are sad.

You'd do anything to connect Chinese DNA with white people.
02tonyl
QUOTE(cao_ni_mao @ May 1 2007, 06:30 AM) [snapback]2916230[/snapback]
Boy you people are sad.

You'd do anything to connect Chinese DNA with white people.


Yup i agree with u , why need to post up $hit things like this ? arent u ppl proud of being asian. personally i dont care if Germans are related to asians or not, all i know is that they are white and asians are yellow.get over it
snowwolflake
QUOTE(02tonyl @ May 1 2007, 07:43 PM) [snapback]2916239[/snapback]
Yup i agree with u , why need to post up $hit things like this ? arent u ppl proud of being asian. personally i dont care if Germans are related to asians or not, all i know is that they are white and asians are yellow.get over it


Well duh,

Germans are not Chinese and we're not trying to prove it,

just interested in discovering why this Caucasian man has East Asian genes in his bloodline Talktohand.gif
moobie
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Boy you people are sad.

You'd do anything to connect Chinese DNA with white people.


calm down there. we're just saying somewhere along the line some germans were raped by mongols.

that's how things were before europe stole gunpowder tech and then became a global parasite.
jiggyiggy
I actually read that thread, and it seems that guy is pretty pissed off about the findings, lol. The part with the Bulgarian dude complaining that your "race" and DNA are two different things was amusing too.
hupehdesi
QUOTE(BlueAway @ Apr 27 2007, 04:59 PM) [snapback]2909128[/snapback]
Mongolians are considered East Asian.
Shhhh ,should have kept it to yourself,too many mongols pop in here ,tey gonna b!tch at you like a chihuahua he he he.
hupehdesi
QUOTE(snowwolflake @ May 1 2007, 11:57 PM) [snapback]2918241[/snapback]
Well duh,

Germans are not Chinese and we're not trying to prove it,

just interested in discovering why this Caucasian man has East Asian genes in his bloodline Talktohand.gif
That man probably has mongol genes in him and not chinese my friend.The hun and more recent mongol invasions are a known fact due to the internet age.
martin_nuke
Hitler is black therefore the Chinese is also black

qwe123
....yeah ok?
.........and some people here also have significant amount of animals DNA contents biggrin.gif
thats explains it!
B.ZhangMidshipman
This isn't really that good of a finding when looking at it from another angle.

The ones who do have Central/East Asian DNA Contents will be pissed at us for destryoing their Racial Purity.
tujue
The germans came to that region with the Huns so dunno
moobie
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The ones who do have Central/East Asian DNA Contents will be pissed at us for destryoing their Racial Purity.


then we can nuke them into the stone age.
JuMong
Avars:

In 626, the Avars and the Persians jointly besieged but failed to capture Constantinople. Following this defeat, the Avars retreated to Pannonia, leaving most of the Balkans in the hands of Slav tribes, with neither Avars nor Byzantines able to reassert control. Most of the Avars' subject peoples became independent, with just Pannonia remaining under direct Avar rule.

By the early 9th century, internal discord and external pressure started to undermine the Avar state. It was finally liquidated during the 810s by the Franks under Charlemagne and the First Bulgarian Empire under Krum. After the fall of the Avar Empire around 800 the name Avar and the self-identified constructed ethnicity it carried disappeared within a single generation. An Avar presence in Pannonia is still certain in 871 but thereafter the name is no longer used by chroniclers: "It simply proved impossible to keep up an Avar identity after Avar institutions and the high claims of their tradition had failed."[10] The Avars are also likely to have merged with Slavs, who had formed new states in the region: the principality of Nitra in the north (later Great Moravia) and the Balaton Principality in the central parts of Pannonia. Their remnants were probably the "Huns" encountered by the invading Magyars in the 10th Century. Their hypothetical descendants, the Szekely (who apparently preserved the Avar Dragon Totem well into the 15th century[citation needed]), were relocated to Transylvania in the 12th century. In the Republic of Hungary there are a number of Avar ruins, mostly burial mounds, that display symbols nearly identical to those of the Caucasian Avars.

Some claim that the Avars were the first tribe to introduce the stirrup to Europe. However, the subject is under debate and other candidates for the importers include the Huns.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_Avars
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