BishoujoHunter
Jul 9 2004, 09:44 PM
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* Bornean Datus
The account of the voyage of ten datus and their followers from a foreign land to Panay and their subsequent settlement in this Visayan island is narrated in a book written in Hiligaynon by Pedro Monteclaro, a native of Iloilo.
In his book, Maragtas kon (historia) sg pulo nga Panay kutub sg iya una nga pamuluyo tubtub sg pag-abut sg mga taga Borneo nga amo ang ginhalinan sg mga Bisaya, kag sg pag-abut sg mga Katsila, Monteclaro narrated that the ten datus came from Borneo where the tyrant Datu Makatunao ruled. The datus and their wives were Puti and wife Pinangpang, Sumakwel and wife Kapinangan, Bangkaya and wife Katurong (who settled in Aklan and whose son Balingsanga could not pronounce the letter r ), Paiburong and wife Pabulanan, Padohinog and wife Ribongsapaw, Dumangsol and wife Kabiling, Dumalogdog, Lubay, Balensuela, and Dumangsil.
No archaeological evidence, however, has been unearthed to give credence to this tale. No historical support for the voyage of the datus and their subsequent settling in Panay exists.
In the Maragtas, Monteclaro wrote: "... akon diri igasambit nga duha ka talamdan ang akon naayap..." (I would mention here that I obtained two documents.) However, nobody has ever seen those two documents.
http://aklanweb.tripod.com/historiography.htm
dalawapo
Jul 9 2004, 09:50 PM
sio what? it is a legend. it is part of culture of the philippines.
Rocky Cuong V
Jul 10 2004, 10:46 AM
AHUH AHUH! dalawapo is trying to start trouble with BishoujoHunter again. Hehe
. This is not cool!
flipcombatmedic
Jul 10 2004, 04:17 PM
you got to remember that indonesia and pi was never the same country nor a different country. all the island of the south china sea, or southwestern pacific, whatever you prefer, had been one people but different tribes so migration was not a bid deal. people always migrated, always warred with each other, always moved since though the identity of each people are different, as well as the language, quite different, but same, and culture was different but all the more similar we all came from one ancestor. only the rule of datus, rajahs, and territorial boundaries of tribes, had made political boundaries, and later these boundaries, the boundaries we know now, was made and expanded to country or nationalistic wise by the conquering europeans. it's like the native americans, you watch the last of the mohican, teh mohicans or mohegans moved to kentucky in the end, which was part of a territory/part of a dfferent tribe, well not really since kentucky was alike a preserve country/territory by indians
just the same with malays, we are all the same but different.
dalawapo
Jul 10 2004, 04:58 PM
what is your trueu name flipmedic?
Rocky Cuong V
Jul 10 2004, 08:56 PM
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you got to remember that indonesia and pi was never the same country nor a different country
huh?
dalawapo
Jul 10 2004, 09:08 PM
i think he mean to say there was a group of islands that were never totally under a single banner and the ppl sail inbetween all the time hence, they are related ethnicially, lingustically and culturally until foreigners (Indians, Arabs, Chinese) sail in and teach one island some new tricks etc... and also the white man sail in and cut up groups of islands and procliam them their territories and gave them names such as the Spainards name their islands they claim the "Philippines" in honor of King Philip of Spain and the inhabitants of those "Philippine" islands eventually gain their independence from their colonizer but retain the Filipino name for themselves.
and the Dutch name their islands they claim "Indonesia" because they first thought they aare in INDIA hence pre-fix "Indo" and prefix "-nesia" merely means "islands" in Greek. and the ppl of those "Indonesian" islands eventually gain their own independence from their Colonizer and also retain the Indonesian name for themselve.
Rocky Cuong V
Jul 10 2004, 09:11 PM
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Jul 10 2004, 10:08 PM)
i think he mean to say there was a group of islands that were never totally under a single banner and the ppl sail inbetween all the time hence, they are related ethnicially, lingustically and culturally until foreigners (Indians, Arabs, Chinese) sail in and teach one island some new tricks etc... and also the white man sail in and cut up groups of islands and procliam them their territories and gave them names such as the Spainards name their islands they claim the "Philippines" in honor of King Philip of Spain and the inhabitants of those "Philippine" islands eventually gain their independence from their colonizer but retain the Filipino name for themselves.
and the Dutch name their islands they claim "Indonesia" because they first thought they aare in INDIA hence pre-fix "Indo" and prefix "-nesia" merely means "islands" in Greek. and the ppl of those "Indonesian" islands eventually gain their own independence from their Colonizer and also retain the Indonesian name for themselve.
Oic, thats cool.
as you see, I am trying to hijack Pi's first page if you don't already know. hehe
Rocky Cuong V
Jul 10 2004, 09:52 PM
QUOTE (dalawapo @ Jul 10 2004, 10:33 PM)
why?
For Fun hehe! But hey, i am not spaming as i read all the post and answer to appropriate answer.
dalawapo
Jul 10 2004, 10:01 PM
go in here and do that
http://s7.SPAM REMOVED/Bishoujo_Hunteru can rule the place cuz no one goes inthere
but maybe u can catch one of the few posters to recount his life by telling u the story of the 3 little pigs.
flipcombatmedic
Jul 11 2004, 05:54 AM
QUOTE (Cuong @ Jul 10 2004, 09:56 PM)
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you got to remember that indonesia and pi was never the same country nor a different country
huh?
what i mean is that malays homeland was never bordered for indo or for pis or for malays, its not like oh indonesians go here, and filipinos go here, and you tribes there go together to form malaysia, no it wasn't like taht. malay people had been living on a certain territory within southeast asia for thousands of years. and moving around was no big deal, like if i was from colorado sure we have a slightly different "culture" there, but i could move to louisiana and though the culutre is different it was not a such a different environemnt like if a zulu moved in to a tlingit people territory, it is no big deal to them because they are all malayans in the root, or in this analogy/situation americans.
Horitaka
Jul 11 2004, 06:53 AM
according to this malays were one of the first people in South East Asia
http://www.guidetothailand.com/thailand-history/malay.htmfunny how it would be in a Thai site
Ek-ek
Jul 13 2004, 05:13 AM
No, I think it was the negritoes!