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Hi, who were some of Korea's great heroes througout history. Admiral Yi is one right?
yes... Admiral Yi is one.
My favorite hero (thou not very well-known and often underestimated) is General Yang Manchun. And i'm proud to claim his lineage.
Some other heros are King Kwanggaeto the Great (Often known as 'Expander of the Realm'), Kim Yushin (he's a weird one), Ulji Mundok, and Yi Chong-mu to name a few.
Some other heros are King Kwanggaeto the Great (Often known as 'Expander of the Realm'), Kim Yushin (he's a weird one), Ulji Mundok, and Yi Chong-mu to name a few.
I think the big three are King Gwanggaeto, General Wang Geon and Admiral Yi Sun-shin.
Yang Man-chun is from Koguryo, right?
Yang Man-chun is from Koguryo, right?
| QUOTE (Hunter @ Jul 11 2004, 07:51 AM) |
| Yang Man-chun is from Koguryo, right? |
Correct. Curiously how much do you know of him?
a briefing of these HEROES of KOREA will be apperciated.
Plz.......... just summarize it.............
Plz.......... just summarize it.............
Kwanggaeto the Great- revived Koguryo's military power and expanded national borders and territory through conquest wars on many fronts with china, various nomadic tribes, and two other korean kingdoms.
Kim Yushin- Great hwarang warrior (hwarangs are Shilla's Elite Shock-troops) in one battle he charged though Paekche's army and took the head of their general. And fought off the Koguryo, paekche, and Tang armies until his 70's.
Ulji Mundok- A very resourcful general, he decimated Tang's military and drowned out thousands of their retreating men by flooding a valley.
General Wang Geon- Overthrew 'Later Koguryo' and renamed the kingom Koryo, he conquered 'Later Shilla' and 'Later Paekche'.
Yi Chong-mu- Forced the japanese pirates on Tsushima island to stop the pirate attacks with force.
Kim Yushin- Great hwarang warrior (hwarangs are Shilla's Elite Shock-troops) in one battle he charged though Paekche's army and took the head of their general. And fought off the Koguryo, paekche, and Tang armies until his 70's.
Ulji Mundok- A very resourcful general, he decimated Tang's military and drowned out thousands of their retreating men by flooding a valley.
General Wang Geon- Overthrew 'Later Koguryo' and renamed the kingom Koryo, he conquered 'Later Shilla' and 'Later Paekche'.
Yi Chong-mu- Forced the japanese pirates on Tsushima island to stop the pirate attacks with force.
What about our 1950's heroes? If you consider them as such...
Kim Doohan, Lee Jongjae, Kim Choonsahm?
Kim Doohan, Lee Jongjae, Kim Choonsahm?
| QUOTE (YManchun @ Jul 10 2004, 12:41 AM) |
| My favorite hero (thou not very well-known and often underestimated) is General Yang Manchun. And i'm proud to claim his lineage. |
Wow! you can link your ancestor to a historical figure? Awesome
| QUOTE (YManchun @ Jul 10 2004, 12:41 AM) |
| Some other heros are King Kwanggaeto the Great (Often known as 'Expander of the Realm'), Kim Yushin (he's a weird one), Ulji Mundok, and Yi Chong-mu to name a few. |
Thanks. Wow General Ulji Mundok's tactics remind me of a tactics used by Vietnamese hero Ngo Quyen and Tran Hung Dao. Very interesting.
| QUOTE (solidxnamja @ Jul 12 2004, 03:24 AM) |
| What about our 1950's heroes? If you consider them as such... Kim Doohan |
LoL
General Kaebaek
Admiral Yi (Commander of the Navy)
Singlehandedly repelled the Japanese invasion of Korea during the Chosun dynasty. Though he had under his command, the fearsome Turtle Ship (world's first ironclad warship), one of the most powerful vessels of all time, his fleet was puny and only numbered 12 ships. But with that force he encountered a fleet of over 200 Japanese warships and annihilated it without a single loss of his own vessels. He repeated his success many times destroying hundreds of Japanese ships with his puny fleet, and succeeded in cutting off the Japanese invasion force in Korea from their homeland and starving them, forcing them to retreat despite their repeated victory against the Koreans on the ground.
Extremely under-rated, and not as well known as he should be. He pulled off one of the greatest, if not THE greatest naval victory in history, and he was a genius tactician that rivals some of the greatest admirals of all time such as Nelson. So ingenius were his naval manuevers, that the British Royal Naval Academy, the most prestigious naval academy on the face of the planet, has been extensively studying and teaching its students, Admiral Yi's "Hak Ik Jin" (Crane) fleet manuever, which he used to pull off his stunning victory against the Japanese. As a result, every British naval officer in the Royal Navy is extremely fond of Admiral Yi, and the tactics they use are heavily influenced by Admiral Yi's doctrine.
One the greatest naval tactician of all time, and no doubt the BEST in Asia.
Singlehandedly repelled the Japanese invasion of Korea during the Chosun dynasty. Though he had under his command, the fearsome Turtle Ship (world's first ironclad warship), one of the most powerful vessels of all time, his fleet was puny and only numbered 12 ships. But with that force he encountered a fleet of over 200 Japanese warships and annihilated it without a single loss of his own vessels. He repeated his success many times destroying hundreds of Japanese ships with his puny fleet, and succeeded in cutting off the Japanese invasion force in Korea from their homeland and starving them, forcing them to retreat despite their repeated victory against the Koreans on the ground.
Extremely under-rated, and not as well known as he should be. He pulled off one of the greatest, if not THE greatest naval victory in history, and he was a genius tactician that rivals some of the greatest admirals of all time such as Nelson. So ingenius were his naval manuevers, that the British Royal Naval Academy, the most prestigious naval academy on the face of the planet, has been extensively studying and teaching its students, Admiral Yi's "Hak Ik Jin" (Crane) fleet manuever, which he used to pull off his stunning victory against the Japanese. As a result, every British naval officer in the Royal Navy is extremely fond of Admiral Yi, and the tactics they use are heavily influenced by Admiral Yi's doctrine.
One the greatest naval tactician of all time, and no doubt the BEST in Asia.
the only korean hero i know is yi, who invented the turtle boats. also defeated teh samurai japan out of korea.
None will ever compare to kim il sung who named himself after a legendary korean warrior.
He fought against Japanese occupiers
He fought against American aggressors
He created Juche
Survived against those who wish to harm him
and died a legend.
He fought against Japanese occupiers
He fought against American aggressors
He created Juche
Survived against those who wish to harm him
and died a legend.
| QUOTE (Mantis @ Jul 16 2004, 03:24 AM) |
| Admiral Yi (Commander of the Navy) Singlehandedly repelled the Japanese invasion of Korea during the Chosun dynasty. Though he had under his command, the fearsome Turtle Ship (world's first ironclad warship), one of the most powerful vessels of all time, his fleet was puny and only numbered 12 ships. But with that force he encountered a fleet of over 200 Japanese warships and annihilated it without a single loss of his own vessels. He repeated his success many times destroying hundreds of Japanese ships with his puny fleet, and succeeded in cutting off the Japanese invasion force in Korea from their homeland and starving them, forcing them to retreat despite their repeated victory against the Koreans on the ground. Extremely under-rated, and not as well known as he should be. He pulled off one of the greatest, if not THE greatest naval victory in history, and he was a genius tactician that rivals some of the greatest admirals of all time such as Nelson. So ingenius were his naval manuevers, that the British Royal Naval Academy, the most prestigious naval academy on the face of the planet, has been extensively studying and teaching its students, Admiral Yi's "Hak Ik Jin" (Crane) fleet manuever, which he used to pull off his stunning victory against the Japanese. As a result, every British naval officer in the Royal Navy is extremely fond of Admiral Yi, and the tactics they use are heavily influenced by Admiral Yi's doctrine. One the greatest naval tactician of all time, and no doubt the BEST in Asia. |
Those turtle ships remind me of the tiger tanks by the Germans.
Not many were made, but they dominated the field with better armor and guns, though their mileage and maneuverability were less than stellar.
Admiral Yi was also apparently 7'2 and had a 66 pound double handed ceremonial sword. (It's still on display.) What a huge @$$ Korean for his time~
Now Kwan Chang... he was insane~
Now Kwan Chang... he was insane~
7'2? I don't think so.
7"2 my friggin @ss.
| QUOTE (kim_jong_il @ Jul 16 2004, 11:07 AM) |
| None will ever compare to kim il sung who named himself after a legendary korean warrior. He fought against Japanese occupiers He fought against American aggressors He created Juche Survived against those who wish to harm him and died a legend. |
Can you clarify on all these Kim il figures? Who's the current leader of N. Korea? How old is he? Is he the same guy that led N. Korea during the Korean War? And the Korean guy that got killed by terrorist was also a Kim il something. It's really confusing, hope you can clarify.
7'2"? He must be Yao Ming's great, great, great, maternal grandfather.
Admiral Yi is the only Korean hero I've heard of, too. I think he's great, but his goal was to defend and not attack right? I can't imagine attacking with such a slow fleet. But good defense nevertheless.
| QUOTE (fiji @ Jul 19 2004, 01:45 AM) | ||
Can you clarify on all these Kim il figures? Who's the current leader of N. Korea? How old is he? Is he the same guy that led N. Korea during the Korean War? And the Korean guy that got killed by terrorist was also a Kim il something. It's really confusing, hope you can clarify. 7'2"? He must be Yao Ming's great, great, great, maternal grandfather. Admiral Yi is the only Korean hero I've heard of, too. I think he's great, but his goal was to defend and not attack right? I can't imagine attacking with such a slow fleet. But good defense nevertheless. |
The current leader of North Korea is Kim Il-sung's son - Kim Jong-il. The Korean guy who got beheaded in Iraq is Kim Sun-il.
Admiral Yi was not 7'2. I have never heard such a claim until now - maybe solidxnamja meant 6'2, which is still pretty damn tall for a Korean back then. Admiral Yi was not defensive; he was always on the offensive, setting up ambushes, raiding Japanese supply lines, chasing retreating fleets, etc. Even the final battle of the war was initiated by Admiral Yi, who attacked 500 retreating Japanese ships and burned most of them down. Yi Sun-shin was undefeated throughout the war, but died from a stray bullet in the final battle.
Turtle Ships were not slow and defensive, like they're portrayed in computer games. They were fast enough to force their way into enemy formations, fire off several cannon shots, and come out unscathed. And they weren't very heavily armored - if the Japanese had bought European cannons from the Portuguese, the war might have had a different outcome.
kim tae-gon
kim doo han, and kim jwa jin
Kim Choon Sahm, Lee Jong Jae~
Son Gi-Jeong, or Kitei Son. 1936 Berlin Olympics Marathon record breaking, gold medalist under the sickening hinomaru during the korean occupation. Rest in peace.
wikipedia info:
Born in Sineuiju (신의주; 新義州), North Pyongan Do, Sohn Kee-chung was educated at Yangjung High School (양정고등학교) and Meiji University (明治大學). He participated in the 1936 Summer Olympics as a marathon runner who finished 42.195 kilometres in 2-hours, 39-minutes, and 19.2-seconds. He broke the world best and received the gold medal.
As Korea was under Japanese control at the time, Sohn Kee-chung competed for the Japanese team in the Olympics, and was forced by the Japanese Empire to use the Japanese name Kitei Son (ｿﾝ・ギｼﾞｮﾝ). However, Sohn Kee-chung refused to sign his names in Japanese during the Olympics, and sometimes even sketched the shape of Korea beside his signatures. When interviewers asked him about his country, he would clarify that Korea is his mother country, not Japan.
When he received the award, so overcome with emotion that the flag rising was of the Empire of Japan and not of Korea, he shed tears.
One of Korea's local newspaper, Dong-a Ilbo (東亞日報) (East Asia Daily), purposefully did not include the Japanese flag in the photo of Sohn Kee-chung receiving the award. This act so enraged the Imperial Japanese Government-General that 8 newspaper personnels were imprisoned, and the East Asia Daily were forced to stop operation for 9 or 10 months.
After the Olympics, he coached runners like:
Suh Yun-bok, winner of the Boston Marathon in 1947
Ham Kee-yong, winner of the Boston Marathon in 1950
Hwang Young-cho (黃永祚), who was the gold medalist of the 1992 Summer Olympics marathon, and for whom Sohn Kee-chung especially went to Barcelona to see, may have been Sohn Kee-chung's student.
Eventually, he became the Chairman of the Korean Sporting Association.
At the 1988 Summer Olympics, he carried the Olympic torch into the stadium at the opening ceremony. He wrote an autobiography called My Motherland and Marathon (나의 조국 나의 마라톤; 《我的祖國和我的馬拉松》). He was honoured with the Citizen's Merit Award (국민훈장; 國民勛章) and posthumously, the Cheongryong Medal and Blue Dragon Order.
Sohn Kee-chung died at the age of 90 at midnight on November 15, 2000 due to pneumonia, and was buried in the Daejeon National Cemetery. Afterwards, the Sohn Kee-jung Memorial Park was established.
wikipedia info:
Born in Sineuiju (신의주; 新義州), North Pyongan Do, Sohn Kee-chung was educated at Yangjung High School (양정고등학교) and Meiji University (明治大學). He participated in the 1936 Summer Olympics as a marathon runner who finished 42.195 kilometres in 2-hours, 39-minutes, and 19.2-seconds. He broke the world best and received the gold medal.
As Korea was under Japanese control at the time, Sohn Kee-chung competed for the Japanese team in the Olympics, and was forced by the Japanese Empire to use the Japanese name Kitei Son (ｿﾝ・ギｼﾞｮﾝ). However, Sohn Kee-chung refused to sign his names in Japanese during the Olympics, and sometimes even sketched the shape of Korea beside his signatures. When interviewers asked him about his country, he would clarify that Korea is his mother country, not Japan.
When he received the award, so overcome with emotion that the flag rising was of the Empire of Japan and not of Korea, he shed tears.
One of Korea's local newspaper, Dong-a Ilbo (東亞日報) (East Asia Daily), purposefully did not include the Japanese flag in the photo of Sohn Kee-chung receiving the award. This act so enraged the Imperial Japanese Government-General that 8 newspaper personnels were imprisoned, and the East Asia Daily were forced to stop operation for 9 or 10 months.
After the Olympics, he coached runners like:
Suh Yun-bok, winner of the Boston Marathon in 1947
Ham Kee-yong, winner of the Boston Marathon in 1950
Hwang Young-cho (黃永祚), who was the gold medalist of the 1992 Summer Olympics marathon, and for whom Sohn Kee-chung especially went to Barcelona to see, may have been Sohn Kee-chung's student.
Eventually, he became the Chairman of the Korean Sporting Association.
At the 1988 Summer Olympics, he carried the Olympic torch into the stadium at the opening ceremony. He wrote an autobiography called My Motherland and Marathon (나의 조국 나의 마라톤; 《我的祖國和我的馬拉松》). He was honoured with the Citizen's Merit Award (국민훈장; 國民勛章) and posthumously, the Cheongryong Medal and Blue Dragon Order.
Sohn Kee-chung died at the age of 90 at midnight on November 15, 2000 due to pneumonia, and was buried in the Daejeon National Cemetery. Afterwards, the Sohn Kee-jung Memorial Park was established.
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