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JuMong
Unfortunately,

Pat Buchanan is trying to use VaTech tragedy to fit his Immigration Agenda, butt, I don't think he has any idea what larger issue and problem this Korean Nationalism is leading Korea, i.e., down a dark and narrow corridor that may eventually lead to another war in that region. God help us all....



http://worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-frie...RTICLE_ID=55463
AgentBach
Oh for christ sakes, no one gives a $hit about Buchanan.
intercar
QUOTE(JuMong @ May 1 2007, 05:05 PM) *
Unfortunately,

Pat Buchanan is trying to use VaTech tragedy to fit his Immigration Agenda, butt, I don't think he has any idea what larger issue and problem this Korean Nationalism is leading Korea, i.e., down a dark and narrow corridor that may eventually lead to another war in that region. God help us all....



http://worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-frie...RTICLE_ID=55463


How is korean nationalism leading to war?? please explain.

as for Ol Patty O'Buchanan, he does make some good points. Agent Bach, buchanan is a #1 bestseller in the US and he also used to work in the white house. He appears often on American talk shows and radio. He's listened to by a lot of people.

America has had an unprecedented number of new immigrants since the 1965 act. Canada even more. It's not unreasonable for an american to ask whether that has benefitted america or not.

a case can be made that immigration is actually a net negative for the world. it causes brain drain from developing nations, it changes the demography of some countries, for example, many european countries will become muslim states by 2050, this will significantly empower islamicism; massive emigration does not really help the countries that export their labor. Mexico sends millions to america but their economy is still terrible, as is the philippeans; the people that emigrate are often marginalized or they live in separate communities; taxes have to rise to pay for welfare benefits, new schools, greater police force, increased health costs, etc.
MiCC
immigration is bad for the native country,but damn this guy needs to stfu cuz hes a immigrant toojust because youre early immigrant doesnt mean your better than new immigrants.
intercar
QUOTE(MiCC @ May 1 2007, 10:00 PM) *
immigration is bad for the native country,but damn this guy needs to stfu cuz hes a immigrant toojust because youre early immigrant doesnt mean your better than new immigrants.


watch you language buddy. I never said I'm against immigration. I just said it's not all positive. Actually I support some korean immigration to the states.
flower pig
intercar likes Pat Buchanan? My head is going to explode from the cognitive dissonance.
AgentBach
QUOTE(intercar @ May 1 2007, 07:19 PM) *
How is korean nationalism leading to war?? please explain.

as for Ol Patty O'Buchanan, he does make some good points. Agent Bach, buchanan is a #1 bestseller in the US and he also used to work in the white house. He appears often on American talk shows and radio. He's listened to by a lot of people.

America has had an unprecedented number of new immigrants since the 1965 act. Canada even more. It's not unreasonable for an american to ask whether that has benefitted america or not.

a case can be made that immigration is actually a net negative for the world. it causes brain drain from developing nations, it changes the demography of some countries, for example, many european countries will become muslim states by 2050, this will significantly empower islamicism; massive emigration does not really help the countries that export their labor. Mexico sends millions to america but their economy is still terrible, as is the philippeans; the people that emigrate are often marginalized or they live in separate communities; taxes have to rise to pay for welfare benefits, new schools, greater police force, increased health costs, etc.

So does Bill O'Reilly but everyone looks at him as a joke.
moobie
Well Cho killed more than 10 immigrants so Bucuntnan should be happy.

But logic escapes these redneck goatfu-kers.
catinmyfridge
QUOTE(AgentBach @ May 1 2007, 04:23 PM) *
Oh for christ sakes, no one gives a $hit about Buchanan.


True, whites don't run that country any more; Jews do.

That's why all the whingeing by whites.

Anyway, America is a land of immigrants; whites are immigrants. The country was Asian originally, populated by Mongoloids. Korean and other Asian immigrants are just re-taking back America for the Asian race. embarassedlaugh.gif

What's this about Korean 'nationalism'?

I told you Korean-American "Korean nationalism" is only skin-deep. They don't care about Korea the mainland. They only care about themselves.

So we're supposed to give up our Korean nationalism here in Korea for the Korean Americans' sake?

What the hey?

If they can't cut it in America and have made themselves disliked, aren't accepted, have no political power or whatnot, don't blame it on KOREANS in Korea, blame it on your own SELVES.

It's not our problem the USA has 864,000 Syngman Rhee potential traitors in their country. Nobody forced you guys to go overseas.

Take responsibility for your own actions, and stop using Korean nationalism so selfishly. Look at all the threads by KAs about "Korean Girls" and Korean celebrities and people gettting angry when plastic surgery is mentioned. As far as Koreans are concerned, the country lost responsibility for you guys when you left these shores to emigrate. Think about it, if you are such Korean nationalists, rightwing, leftwing or whatever, you wouldn't leave this country to migrate to another.

And BTW, Buchanan is wrong, Koreans aren't responsible for more murders than whites in the USA proportionately. Asian immigrants commit fewer violent crimes than American whites. See the Color of Crime report. If he wants to base the immigration debate on that, then the stats would support more Asian immigrants being allowed into America, not fewer. Not all races are the same when it comes to crime, not all immigrants are the same; he shouldn't lump them together.

And the US's economy depends on Asian immigrants to survive; it is set up to do so - it practises growth-based capitalism. What Americans killed 4 million Koreans for: to try and impose the same system on the Koreans. Just cutting out all the Korean foreign students studying in that country alone will cause a big dent in their economy. Nobody is buying American manufactured products; educational services, tourism and entertainment (Hollywood crass stuff) are the only commodities that are saleable.

Trust someone so uneducated like Buchanan to blame the WHOLE Korean race on the actions of one individual. Typical of ignorant people and this is the start of the backlash people are talking about.

Asians are always treated differently and they know it; hence the anxiety they feel when something like the VT massacre occurs. A white person, say a white British immigrant, or even a Hispanic person would not feel the same anxiety if one of their kind did the same thing. Asians look different and so stand out. They will always be held to a higher standard than other people. They can be generally law-abiding all their lives and for several generations - then one action by a lone individual will paint them all with the same brush. It's unfair but that's the way it goes.

And how is Korean nationalism responsible for the failure of law enforcement in that country? Which leftist Korean nationalist told the VA police to stand down while there was a gunman on the loose with two bodies to his name and a campus-ful of students attending classes oblivious to what was going on? Which Korean nationalist stopped the police from setting up roadblocks around the campus to prevent the gunman returning?

Yeah, KAs aren't killers, but Buchanan is right about one thing, the quality of the Korean people emigrating to America is pretty poor. They're the selfish 'me, me, me' types who wouldn't give two bent nickels about anyone else including their own ethnic group or fellow nationals; they wouldn't hesitate to doublecross you in the back if it meant there was something in it for them. They're the spiritual kin of those Koreans who turned their backs on their own people during the Japanese occupation, worked as their willing lapdogs and sold Korean women into sexual slavery for the Japanese military and tried to be more Japanese than the Japanese themselves (will Park Geum Hye bring out her dad's collection of samurai swords out of mothballs and display them in the Grand National Assembly when she becomes Korea's next president and will enka singing be the new fashion in room salons?) Now these same people are flunkeys to the Jews. From Japanese -> white Americans -> Jews, these Uncle Tomists know where the power is. Korea is better off without these people; America can have them.

America has got more important things to worry about than Cho or Koreans; Cho or Koreans aren't killing whites, their own stupidity is, look how many of them are dying in the Middle East for Israel. And look how many IRAQIS (and Afghanis) Americans are killing.
sfca-scot
Catinmyfridge: How are Jews running this country? You seem to really hate jews but I just don't get your basis for this.

Intercar: Great points on Immigration issues. You spot a lot of the negatives without bringing up the issue that I think concerns you the most about Korea, the westernizing of the culture of countries like Korea. At least i have gathered from your previous posts that this concerns you. On the contrary, what do you think the advantages of Immigration are?

Agent Bach, you may think these guys are a joke but O'Reily has the best rated news show on TV in the US. He's in the mainstream whether you like him or not. Buchannan, he's more in his own ultra right conservative niche, I'd say he's outside the mainstream but he does have a sizable loyal following.
moobie
yeah, we can't get rid of really stupid hacks even if we try.
YManchun
QUOTE(catinmyfridge @ May 2 2007, 05:02 PM) *
It's not our problem the USA has 864,000 Syngman Rhee potential traitors in their country. Nobody forced you guys to go overseas.

Take responsibility for your own actions, and stop using Korean nationalism so selfishly. Look at all the threads by KAs about "Korean Girls" and Korean celebrities and people gettting angry when plastic surgery is mentioned. As far as Koreans are concerned, the country lost responsibility for you guys when you left these shores to emigrate. Think about it, if you are such Korean nationalists, rightwing, leftwing or whatever, you wouldn't leave this country to migrate to another.


...Eeerr...a lot of KA members here actually didn't have a choice. sure.gif
Mua
catinmyfridge you are fu-king dillusional
SantaKlaws
Isn't catinmyfridge a Korean-American?
Captain Corea
QUOTE(SantaKlaws @ May 3 2007, 06:20 PM) *
Isn't catinmyfridge a Korean-American?


i could have sworn he said before he was a Korean teaching english in Korea.
SinoPak
enomosiki
QUOTE(SinoPak @ May 8 2007, 04:03 AM) *




baal
Korean nationalism, in both NK and SK, is an interesting phenomenon that has an impact on America. Can anyone refer me to a source (other than wiki) for a brief analysis of the subject? Thanks.
SinoPak
QUOTE(enomosiki @ May 9 2007, 02:37 AM) *





None of your business

Democracy of China will be implemented by Chinese!

Korean has no right to talk!

But Korean's Stupid claim on Manchuria will anger Chinese.
Ju-mong
QUOTE(YManchun @ May 2 2007, 08:38 PM) *
...Eeerr...a lot of KA members here actually didn't have a choice. sure.gif


No kidding. I didn't have a choice to come to America and be a lap dog for the white man. Constantly being watched and preyed upon.

Don't have political power here because whites considers us paper Americans for now and someday real Americans if we intermix with white or blacks.
enomosiki
QUOTE(SinoPak @ May 8 2007, 09:47 PM) *
None of your business

Democracy of China will be implemented by Chinese!

Korean has no right to talk!

But Korean's Stupid claim on Manchuria will anger Chinese.


Ditto on the first line; Korean nationalism is none of Chinese business.

And it's funny how you are trying to dodge the topic by saying that the "democracy of China will be implemented by Chinese". I'm pretty sure that the crowds that marched at the Tiananmen Square weren't Martians, so your statement is full of failures, both logically and factually.

Besides, average Koreans do get more rights to the freedom of speech compared to average Chinese, so you shouldn't tell the Koreans that they don't have the right to talk.

Keep your nose where it belongs. Take your diminutive intelligence back to the Chinese Chat. We don't need any of those in here.
Aerain
QUOTE(YManchun @ May 2 2007, 08:38 PM) *
...Eeerr...a lot of KA members here actually didn't have a choice. sure.gif


True, if I had the choice I wouldn’t be living in Canada in the first place; immigrants get often discriminated, especially when you live in the suburbs area. I don't mind people being nationalistic, but I think they should treat people with respect.
Meine Ehre heißt Treue
its good to have nationalism, unites a nation and gives people pride. nothing wrong here.
TheHero
Quotes from catinmyfridge:


It's not our problem the USA has 864,000 Syngman Rhee potential traitors in their country. Nobody forced you guys to go overseas.


Typical remark of communists or communist sympathizers. Any Korean who hates Communism is a true patriot.


From Japanese -> white Americans -> Jews, these Uncle Tomists know where the power is.

Uncle Tomists? Do you mean Koreans who don't blame thier problems on others?

I don't know about Koreans. However, I do know that black uncle toms are the most successful in America. I wouldn't call them such degrading names. I would say they are hard working blacks who don't blame thier problems on others.

Anyways, white americans and jews are not imperial Japanese. The imperial Japanese never cared about Koreans. They took their rice and let them strave. Jews and white Americans have never wanted Koreans to starve.

White Americans and Jews (assuming they control America) have made the Republic of Korea into economic power. They are such assholes laugh.gif





Yeah, KAs aren't killers, but Buchanan is right about one thing, the quality of the Korean people emigrating to America is pretty poor. They're the selfish 'me, me, me' types who wouldn't give two bent nickels about anyone else including their own ethnic group or fellow nationals; they wouldn't hesitate to doublecross you in the back if it meant there was something in it for them. They're the spiritual kin of those Koreans who turned their backs on their own people during the Japanese occupation, worked as their willing lapdogs and sold Korean women into sexual slavery for the Japanese military and tried to be more Japanese than the Japanese themselves (will Park Geum Hye bring out her dad's collection of samurai swords out of mothballs and display them in the Grand National Assembly when she becomes Korea's next president and will enka singing be the new fashion in room salons?) Now these same people are flunkeys to the Jews. From Japanese -> white Americans -> Jews, these Uncle Tomists know where the power is. Korea is better off without these people; America can have them.



Bull$hit. Who are the heroic Koreans? The ones that serve Kim Jong Ill? Asian immigrants (especially Koreans) have been extremely successful. They are far from being poor quality Koreans.

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And the US's economy depends on Asian immigrants to survive; it is set up to do so - it practises growth-based capitalism.


You said later on that Korean Americans were poor quality Koreans. Growth based capitalism made the USA a superpower. Why should we be ashamed?

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Americans killed 4 million Koreans for: to try and impose the same system on the Koreans.


What system? Free market capitalism? Yeah, it's sure alot better than gulags. We killed 4 million Koreans? I thought the North did. What liberal Korean history professor gave you this information?

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They're the spiritual kin of those Koreans who turned their backs on their own people during the Japanese occupation, worked as their willing lapdogs and sold Korean women into sexual slavery


Few Koreans anywhere in the world liked imperial Japan.


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Trust someone so uneducated like Buchanan to blame the WHOLE Korean race on the actions of one individual. Typical of ignorant people and this is the start of the backlash people are talking about


You sure sound alot like Pat Buchanan.

QUOTE
And BTW, Buchanan is wrong, Koreans aren't responsible for more murders than whites in the USA proportionately. Asian immigrants commit fewer violent crimes than American whites.


Your right about that one. I'll give you that.

QUOTE
Take responsibility for your own actions, and stop using Korean nationalism so selfishly. Look at all the threads by KAs about "Korean Girls" and Korean celebrities and people gettting angry when plastic surgery is mentioned. As far as Koreans are concerned, the country lost responsibility for you guys when you left these shores to emigrate. Think about it, if you are such Korean nationalists, rightwing, leftwing or whatever, you wouldn't leave this country to migrate to another.


SIREN SOUND - DPRK ALERT - SIREN SOUND

Hey, let's build a fukin wall around South Korea and stop learning English. We can live in the middle ages or better yet the stone age.

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The country was Asian originally, populated by Mongoloids. Korean and other Asian immigrants are just re-taking back America for the Asian race. embarassedlaugh.gif


The American Indians mostly died of disease not genocide. The amount of American Indians in North America was very small compared to Mexico or Peru.
The Asian race still survives among the many mixed people in Latin America. I do think that many natives were cheated in the US and Canada (Well no $hit.).
Human nature is evil and so what do you expect?

QUOTE
America has got more important things to worry about than Cho or Koreans; Cho or Koreans aren't killing whites, their own stupidity is, look how many of them are dying in the Middle East for Israel. And look how many IRAQIS (and Afghanis) Americans are killing.


America needs promote better wages and labor conditions in the third world. If it changes it's policies then status quo can be maintained. The only other option is a catastrophe. Che Guevara or some other phony isn't going to save the day.


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True, whites don't run that country any more; Jews do.


And thier doing a pretty good job (assuming they run it). America is a superpower. America wants walls to keep people out. The DPRK and Cuba have walls to
keep people in.


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Cho or Koreans aren't killing whites, their own stupidity is,


America isn't setting a trap for South Korean ultra nationalists. Thier own stupidity is.
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