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VAMAN



Lakshmi Nivas Mittal
The world's fifth richest man and the CEO of Arcelor Mittal. Mittal's wealth and power came from achieving his dream of consolidating the global steel industry - voted in the category 'Builders and Titans'.


Sonia Gandhi
In the 16 years since the death of her husband, she had become the face of the country's most famous family and as leader of the Congress party, she has managed the largest political party in the country and steered it to victory. And she has done all this wearing a sari. Imagine if the US were run by an Indian Hindu woman without a college degree. It's tough: the US has never elected anyone who's not Christian, white and male - even as Vice President. But India, which is an even bigger democracy, is run in all but name by an Italian Catholic widow with a high school education. When her party won national elections in 2004, she was offered the Prime Ministership; she listened to her "inner voice" and turned it down, and anointed the economist Manmohan Singh in her stead.


Indra Nooyi
CEO of Pepsi Co the first woman to lead the company, she's known as a champion of corporate social responsibility. She's also overseeing the move towards healthier offerings in the $35 billion giant's snack and soda portfolio. The shocking thing isn`t who she is but the world she has inherited. Globalism was not new when she joined PepsiCo more than a decade ago but the global part has changed. As Pepsis strategist, she`s a former management consultant, Nooyi helped position PepsiCo for growth in China, the Middle East and her native India.
moviez
Sonia Gandhi is Italian. Her husband is Indian.

Nachiketa
QUOTE(moviez @ May 6 2007, 05:12 AM) *
Sonia Gandhi is Italian. Her husband is Indian.


Sonia Gandhi used to be Italian. She is Indian now.
Tenjikuronin
QUOTE(moviez @ May 6 2007, 05:12 AM) *
Sonia Gandhi is Italian. Her husband is Indian.


Sonia Gandhi is an Indian citizen.

Her husband was too.
Jagger
QUOTE(moviez @ May 6 2007, 01:12 PM) *
Sonia Gandhi is Italian. Her husband is Indian.

Sonia Gandhi has been assimilated, just like the late Mother Teresa.
PB.
its very nice, indian women are always kicking consistent azz - they may remind you of chinese girls... kiss.gif
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(Nachiketa @ May 6 2007, 09:40 AM) *
Sonia Gandhi used to be Italian. She is Indian now.



She's an Indian citizen of Italian descent. How about that?

Just like how we'r Americans of Indian descent.
Jagger
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ May 7 2007, 12:56 AM) *
She's an Indian citizen of Italian descent. How about that?

Just like how we'r Americans of Indian descent.

You mean Italian Indian.

She still looks like an Indian woman to me though. Quite a few Indians and Italians could be mistaken for one another.
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(Jagger @ May 6 2007, 07:14 PM) *
You mean Italian Indian.

She still looks like an Indian woman to me though. Quite a few Indians and Italians could be mistaken for one another.


She looks like an older version of Reese Witherspoon to me.

Those younger pics of her look very similar too.
moviez
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ May 6 2007, 07:56 PM) *
She's an Indian citizen of Italian descent. How about that?

Just like how we'r Americans of Indian descent.


She is white but Indians are not.
VAMAN
QUOTE(moviez @ May 6 2007, 05:42 PM) *
Sonia Gandhi is Italian. Her husband is Indian.

Sonia is Italian but she is now an Indian citizen. Infact she is more indian than most indians. She speaks fluent Hindi. She always wears saree in public as far as I remember.

QUOTE(moviez @ May 7 2007, 05:11 PM) *
She is white but Indians are not.

O ya, how can you be that sure? For your information, so many indians have very fair complexion. Her husband Rajiv Gandhi also had fair complexion, and he was handsome. He is 100% indian.


Rajiv Gandhi

Now tell me who looks more italian or rather indian. biggthumpup.gif

To clear your doubts further lets see their pictures together.


Rajiv Gandhi, Sonia, with Rajiv's mother Indira Gandhi.




Rajiv and Sonia Gandhi in Srilanka.

Tenjikuronin
QUOTE(moviez @ May 7 2007, 04:41 AM) *
She is white but Indians are not.

Define "white".

If you are referring to ethnic backgroud, then you should know that "whites" aren't banned from getting Indian citizenship.
moviez
QUOTE(Tenjikuronin @ May 7 2007, 10:07 AM) *
Define "white".

If you are referring to ethnic backgroud, then you should know that "whites" aren't banned from getting Indian citizenship.


Yes ethnic background.

Hindus don't want to see as her Prime Minister :


Hindu groups threatened nationwide anti-Sonia protests

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3726081.stm

moviez
QUOTE(VAMAN @ May 7 2007, 08:37 AM) *
Sonia is Italian but she is now an Indian citizen. Infact she is more indian than most indians. She speaks fluent Hindi. She always wears saree in public as far as I remember.
O ya, how can you be that sure? For your information, so many indians have very fair complexion. Her husband Rajiv Gandhi also had fair complexion, and he was handsome. He is 100% indian.


Fair skin does not equal to being white.

Mariah Carey also have fair skin but she is not white.

A lot of Japanese, Chinese and Koreans also have white skin but they are not white.
Arabs, Iranians and Central Asians also have white skins but they too are not white.



QUOTE

Rajiv Gandhi

Now tell me who looks more italian or rather indian. biggthumpup.gif

To clear your doubts further lets see their pictures together.


Rajiv Gandhi, Sonia, with Rajiv's mother Indira Gandhi.




Rajiv and Sonia Gandhi in Srilanka.


VAMAN
^ So you want to say that only europeans have the luxury to be known as the 'whites'?? And no one else can be termed as a 'white'?? Even if they have a very fair complexion?? Comon get over your colonial mentality.
JuicyFruit
^Why do you care who's called "white"? confused.gif

QUOTE(moviez @ May 7 2007, 02:16 PM) *
Hindus don't want to see as her Prime Minister :


Hindu groups threatened nationwide anti-Sonia protests

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3726081.stm


I think you mean conservative Hindu groups. I doubt the average Hindu cares if Sonia becomes PM of their country.
moviez
QUOTE(JuicyFruit @ May 10 2007, 09:22 PM) *
^Why do you care who's called "white"? confused.gif
I think you mean conservative Hindu groups. I doubt the average Hindu cares if Sonia becomes PM of their country.


I don't really care who is white or who isn't but I am sure you would argue if some Japanese , Korean or Filipino etc claim that they are white, right ?

If a black dude walks up to you and says that he is white I am sure you wouldn't agree white him.
Pink Cream
QUOTE(VAMAN @ May 8 2007, 03:28 AM) *
^ So you want to say that only europeans have the luxury to be known as the 'whites'?? And no one else can be termed as a 'white'?? Even if they have a very fair complexion?? Comon get over your colonial mentality.

you regard being known as white as a luxury?
JuicyFruit
QUOTE(moviez @ May 12 2007, 09:35 AM) *
I don't really care who is white or who isn't but I am sure you would argue if some Japanese , Korean or Filipino etc claim that they are white, right ?

If a black dude walks up to you and says that he is white I am sure you wouldn't agree white him.


The question was for him. I want to know why he's so concerned with who gets to be called "white" or not. confused.gif
VAMAN
QUOTE(JuicyFruit @ May 11 2007, 06:52 AM) *
^Why do you care who's called "white"? confused.gif

I think the other poster has issues, I didn't refer to anyone as white. In my opinion anyone who has fair complexion can be termed as white its not just the europeans. Btw I never use the words white, black, brown, yellow etc. I don't like these kind of words for people.

Can't you read the previous posts and the discussion which followed?
VAMAN
QUOTE(Pink Cream @ May 12 2007, 07:11 PM) *
you regard being known as white as a luxury?

The other poster was using the word 'white' exclusivly for the europeans that is why I used the word luxury for it. Now you got it??
moviez
QUOTE(VAMAN @ May 14 2007, 04:37 AM) *
I think the other poster has issues, I didn't refer to anyone as white. In my opinion anyone who has fair complexion can be termed as white its not just the europeans. Btw I never use the words white, black, brown, yellow etc. I don't like these kind of words for people.

Can't you read the previous posts and the discussion which followed?


QUOTE
"In my opinion anyone who has fair complexion can be termed as white its not just the europeans."



Let's have a Poll on "Other Culture" to see how many people agree with the above statement.
moviez
QUOTE(JuicyFruit @ May 13 2007, 11:22 PM) *
The question was for him. I want to know why he's so concerned with who gets to be called "white" or not. confused.gif



Oops laugh.gif
JuicyFruit
QUOTE(VAMAN @ May 14 2007, 05:37 AM) *
In my opinion anyone who has fair complexion can be termed as white its not just the europeans. Can't you read the previous posts and the discussion which followed?


I read it.. You seem hung up on who gets to be called "white"... and it's not about opinion. In English the word is used to refer to people indigenous to Europe. When talking about skin color, we use light and dark.

JuicyFruit
QUOTE(VAMAN @ May 14 2007, 05:37 AM) *
In my opinion anyone who has fair complexion can be termed as white its not just the europeans. Can't you read the previous posts and the discussion which followed?


I read it.. You seem hung up on who gets to be called "white". It's not about opinion. In English the word is used to refer to people indigenous to Europe. When talking about skin color, we use light and dark.
jiggyiggy
moviez you idiot, of course there's going to be controversy about Sonia Gandhi becoming Prime Minister. I don't think it would be proper for any country to have a leader who wasn't born in that country. And you can argue day and night till the day off your death, but I'll bet you a F and a U that if you asked her if she was Indian that she'd say yes.
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