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azzkicker
http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=1678 biggthumpup.gif biggthumpup.gif biggthumpup.gif

Some have claimed that the park is illegally copying Disney’s Minnie Mouse. However, the park’s operators have insisted that the character on the right is not a mouse. It is a cat with very large ears!

After some searching, I managed to find an English language news article that mentions this fine amusment park:

With its slogan “Disneyland is too far,” Beijing’s Shijingshan Amusement Park features a replica of Cinderella’s Castle, with staff dressed like Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs and other Disney characters.

None of this is authorized by Disney - but that has not stopped the state-owned park from creating its own counterfeit version of the Magic Kingdom in a brazen example of the sort of open and widespread copyright piracy that has Washington fuming.

The United States announced Monday it would file a case at the World Trade Organization over rampant copyright piracy in China, a practice which US companies say deprives them of billions of dollars each year.
But 31-year-old housewife Zhang Li betrays a typical Chinese attitude on the issue while chasing her young son around the park.

“I don’t understand why that is such a big problem. Shouldn’t others be able to use those characters besides [Disney]?” she asks.

No, no, lady. You’ve got it all wrong. They aren’t using Disney characters. It’s a big-eared cat, not a mouse. Come on!


that one ugly snow white. LOL

i though shrek couldn't get uglier. thanks china government.


STOP STEALING CHINA! WHAT UP WITH CHINA STEALING THIS DAYS? FIRST FROM KOREA THAN FROM DISNEY!!
medawg14
Only an idiot would seek to demean an entire people through this story.

First of all, the concept of a copyright is a completely western and capitalistic idea. Sorry Captain America, but as a sovereign country, China has the right to create and enforce the laws that it pleases. It is unfair to apply all the rules of the most advanced, industrial society to a relatively poor, developing country like China.

Furthermore, if you are a young person with a computer, I am sure that you have downloaded a good amount of copyrighted music and movies. I doubt that you have any true respect for or belief in intellectual property laws. You are simply making a pathetic attempt to ridicule the Chinese, but you fail miserably, and in doing so show yourself to be a pathetic fool.
Mua
they dont even try to make it different its a 1on1 copy of disney xD
azzkicker
QUOTE(medawg14 @ May 18 2007, 03:02 PM) [snapback]2952584[/snapback]
Only an idiot would seek to demean an entire people through this story.

First of all, the concept of a copyright is a completely western and capitalistic idea. Sorry Captain America, but as a sovereign country, China has the right to create and enforce the laws that it pleases. It is unfair to apply all the rules of the most advanced, industrial society to a relatively poor, developing country like China.

Furthermore, if you are a young person with a computer, I am sure that you have downloaded a good amount of copyrighted music and movies. I doubt that you have any true respect for or belief in intellectual property laws. You are simply making a pathetic attempt to ridicule the Chinese, but you fail miserably, and in doing so show yourself to be a pathetic fool.



honesty are you trying jusitify this redulicelessly failed attempt of Disneyland. not ownly that china stolen a grand idea of fair tale story but the all china childern sense of true childhood idealize. follow me? honestly next your gonna tell me that Disney was first created by th china and the western white man stole it under your noses. this is really low for a country thats "developing" but it looks like china is turn into a country of copycats. where everything is fake. don't worry when other countries finds out that china main contribution to the its GDP is making fake $hit. they their gonna laugh and and china is going to be the luaghing stock of the world. oh and copyright are made to protect those that worked hard to come up with an orginal idea and also be credited fro their work. honestly you can take others ppl work to make it better but just make money off it. LOSERS! embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif
enomosiki
QUOTE(medawg14 @ May 18 2007, 04:02 PM) [snapback]2952584[/snapback]
Only an idiot would seek to demean an entire people through this story.

First of all, the concept of a copyright is a completely western and capitalistic idea. Sorry Captain America, but as a sovereign country, China has the right to create and enforce the laws that it pleases. It is unfair to apply all the rules of the most advanced, industrial society to a relatively poor, developing country like China.

Furthermore, if you are a young person with a computer, I am sure that you have downloaded a good amount of copyrighted music and movies. I doubt that you have any true respect for or belief in intellectual property laws. You are simply making a pathetic attempt to ridicule the Chinese, but you fail miserably, and in doing so show yourself to be a pathetic fool.


As the one of the largest and powerful country in Asia that China claims itself to be and brags about it, it should be noted that China and Chinese are not going to gain any respect if it can't even follow the standards set by most other nations around the world.

And it's quite funny how the Chinese nationalists oppose the "Western and Capitalistic ideas" when their government is slowly changing into adapting such process. I guess the inferiority complex card comes in handy in such issues like this.

And it's funny how you can compare downloading some copyrighted music and movies to setting up a whole shop to rig in the dough. The two should not be confused with each other, as most people who download copyrighted media aren't using them to gain profit, whereas this Chinese theme park is gathering huge amount of profit by means of using someone else's idea and popularity through unauthorized methods.
lilzz
QUOTE(azzkicker @ May 18 2007, 04:16 PM) [snapback]2952715[/snapback]
honesty are you trying jusitify this redulicelessly failed attempt of Disneyland. not ownly that china stolen a grand idea of fair tale story but the all china childern sense of true childhood idealize. follow me? honestly next your gonna tell me that Disney was first created by th china and the western white man stole it under your noses. this is really low for a country thats "developing" but it looks like china is turn into a country of copycats. where everything is fake. don't worry when other countries finds out that china main contribution to the its GDP is making fake $hit. they their gonna laugh and and china is going to be the luaghing stock of the world. oh and copyright are made to protect those that worked hard to come up with an orginal idea and also be credited fro their work. honestly you can take others ppl work to make it better but just make money off it. LOSERS! embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif


Indeed Very well said, good job. azzlicker.
azzkicker
WOW REALLY PATHETIC! EVEN KFC GOT STOLEN!

QUOTE(YaoRockets @ May 18 2007, 04:42 PM) [snapback]2952759[/snapback]
KFG:

Colonel Shande


WarEngineer
*tries really hard to gives a $hit but failed*

at least i tried
MadGhoul
oh no Disneyland got rippped off by China, all the children in the world are crying as we speak
kpham001
LOL!!! They should have Chairman Mao face as the brand name instead of Colonel Sander.
Rickdaddy
lol
Shao
KFG is photoshopped.
moobie
I hate this because disney is subpar. I could care less if China craps all over the U.S's copyright laws for something this minor, though.

But Chinese artists can do 1000000% better. No more fu-king disney, starbucks, mcdonalds, coke. Get the fu-k out of China.

QUOTE
Chinese theme park is gathering huge amount of profit by means of using someone else's idea and popularity through unauthorized methods.


No. This is a CCP run park; iirc. They don't want newly rich Chinese flooding overseas to give Disneyworld and America free money they don't deserve.
Placidity
QUOTE(medawg14 @ May 19 2007, 06:02 AM) [snapback]2952584[/snapback]
Only an idiot would seek to demean an entire people through this story.

First of all, the concept of a copyright is a completely western and capitalistic idea. Sorry Captain America, but as a sovereign country, China has the right to create and enforce the laws that it pleases. It is unfair to apply all the rules of the most advanced, industrial society to a relatively poor, developing country like China.

Furthermore, if you are a young person with a computer, I am sure that you have downloaded a good amount of copyrighted music and movies. I doubt that you have any true respect for or belief in intellectual property laws. You are simply making a pathetic attempt to ridicule the Chinese, but you fail miserably, and in doing so show yourself to be a pathetic fool.


Very good response.

Dont bother trying to have intelligent discussions with people that are:

1. Racist
2. Illiterate
3. Unintelligent.

BTW, all of which azzkicker & pals overqualify for with flying colours. embarassedlaugh.gif

(The title already gives it away that you will be reading posts from retards)
Nana_Urbiz
the Japanese are highly trained in the art of origami.
honeyfresh
QUOTE(moobie @ May 19 2007, 04:57 AM) [snapback]2953921[/snapback]
I hate this because disney is subpar.


Compared to what?
moobie
miyazaki, etc.

they should try to license a miyazaki theme park but i doubt he'd be cool with that :p

disney's animation is good but i hate the characters and general premise behind the story. it's always so greased up and shallow.

but much of it was animated in north korea.. so
Shao
QUOTE(moobie @ May 19 2007, 06:57 AM) [snapback]2953921[/snapback]
No. This is a CCP run park; iirc. They don't want newly rich Chinese flooding overseas to give Disneyworld and America free money they don't deserve.


You are really ignorant, aren't you?
moobie
why would they? people don't reciprocate when china does anything that ends up helping them, so they have to keep their population in check.

i don't support counterfeit but chinese people should not even be buying garbage like european name brands or american entertainment industry.

if you think some 1$ piece of crap from china that breaks in 1 year is bad, 10000$ pieces of crap from italy that goes out of fashion in 3 months is worse.
*promo
and where do you live moobie?

don't expect to get married and have your children asking for something from Disney b/c its the only thing that will shut them.

yeah seriously how the fu-k can you justify this stupidity by the chinese government?
mndeg
what does this have to do with china at all? it's like saying if one chinese-american is a psychopath all chinese are. china is a capitalist country, you can run a business and do what you want as long as you don't mess with how government runs things.

and the people who think that IP violations literally cause them to lose millions or billions of dollars are crazy. chinese peasants don't have the money and WON'T spend their money on pointless $hit.
02tonyl
There is already a thread about this in Chinese chat
*promo
QUOTE(mndeg @ May 19 2007, 09:53 AM) [snapback]2954242[/snapback]
what does this have to do with china at all? it's like saying if one chinese-american is a psychopath all chinese are. china is a capitalist country, you can run a business and do what you want as long as you don't mess with how government runs things.

and the people who think that IP violations literally cause them to lose millions or billions of dollars are crazy. chinese peasants don't have the money and WON'T spend their money on pointless $hit.



umm i think i just read that the chinese gov. had to do with it being built. so in contrast it does reflect on china's rep. as country that has fake reproduction items. but REALLY this totally out hands with this theme park.
sekushii
QUOTE(02tonyl @ May 19 2007, 02:05 PM) [snapback]2954252[/snapback]
There is already a thread about this in Chinese chat

I can't find it. where?
02tonyl
QUOTE(sekushii @ May 19 2007, 01:28 PM) [snapback]2954359[/snapback]
I can't find it. where?


http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=119290
moobie
I live in the U.S but I don't owe this country anything; the public education system failed me miserably and all the money I make I could make from anywhere in the world. We just pay massive taxes and don't get $hit at all in return.
enomosiki
QUOTE(moobie @ May 19 2007, 10:05 PM) [snapback]2954826[/snapback]
I live in the U.S but I don't owe this country anything; the public education system failed me miserably and all the money I make I could make from anywhere in the world. We just pay massive taxes and don't get $hit at all in return.


If you hate the U.S. so much, then pack your sh!t up together and move back to China instead of constantly b!tching about everything.
moobie
Our family has properties there and in Taiwan (and all over America), so I can live where I want.

And I'm American-born, from Taiwanese anti-Communist and Chinese KMT families, not a Chinese national living in the U.S.

QUOTE
don't expect to get married and have your children asking for something from Disney b/c its the only thing that will shut them.

yeah seriously how the fu-k can you justify this stupidity by the chinese government?


If I have kids they're not going to grow up buying anything American at all. It's not that I hate America, I don't, but I hate their (I should say "our" but I don't consider myself really part of any community) consumer products.

And I don't justify what they did, I hate it for other reasons. It just opens up their minds for white worshipping propaganda. The last thing that little girl needs is to want to look like Sleeping Beauty.

They should license some kind of park with Japanese animation instead.
YaoRockets

all japanese teens are crazy mother fu-kers .... no, crazy mother beheading psychos

that would be the conclusion we should draw if we follow the logic of the person who started this thread.

"world Pwnd japan" ... what a moron icon_sad.gif
Pink Cream
is the entry cheaper at desney land? fu-k america, i'm gonna go to china instead
honeyfresh
QUOTE(moobie @ May 19 2007, 05:39 AM) [snapback]2953941[/snapback]
miyazaki, etc.

they should try to license a miyazaki theme park but i doubt he'd be cool with that :p

disney's animation is good but i hate the characters and general premise behind the story. it's always so greased up and shallow.

but much of it was animated in north korea.. so


Miyazaki's works are unoriginal (Spirited Away is merely Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland with a Japanese/Shinto setting), and the stories are always wildly incoherent and sloppy. Only pretentious pseudointellectual Japanophiles think his work is 'deep' and 'philosophical'.

And idiot, Disney's target demographic is young children, of course their work is not going to be too complex. Japanese animation on the other hand targets older demographics.

Disney wasn't made for old, bitter Asian men like yourself.
moobie
I don't think it's "deep" or "philosophical", retard, i just think it has visual appeal and subtlety.

and i'm 20.

QUOTE
the stories are always wildly incoherent and sloppy.


no, they're not. only hard to follow if you're mentally retarded.
honeyfresh
QUOTE(moobie @ May 20 2007, 07:13 AM) [snapback]2955604[/snapback]
I don't think it's "deep" or "philosophical", retard, i just think it has visual appeal and subtlety.

and i'm 20.
no, they're not. only hard to follow if you're mentally retarded.


http://www.frankwu.com/Princess.html

The reviewer doesn't sound mentally retarded to me.
moobie
well yeah, i doubt you'd pick that up either

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/princess_mononoke/
KarKui
QUOTE(azzkicker @ May 19 2007, 07:16 AM) [snapback]2952715[/snapback]
honesty are you trying jusitify this redulicelessly failed attempt of Disneyland. not ownly that china stolen a grand idea of fair tale story but the all china childern sense of true childhood idealize. follow me? honestly next your gonna tell me that Disney was first created by th china and the western white man stole it under your noses. this is really low for a country thats "developing" but it looks like china is turn into a country of copycats. where everything is fake. don't worry when other countries finds out that china main contribution to the its GDP is making fake $hit. they their gonna laugh and and china is going to be the luaghing stock of the world. oh and copyright are made to protect those that worked hard to come up with an orginal idea and also be credited fro their work. honestly you can take others ppl work to make it better but just make money off it. LOSERS! embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif



...right, so wait, Japan pwnd China? how so?

does anybody here agree that azzkicker, needs some @$$ kicking?

i'll be blunt here, because i'm not in a flashy mood to be calm and collected, and i'm sure many would agree with me that you're noob, and a self-loving, condescending, ridiculous pain in the arse, which sums up the defintion of 'fu-khead' and an epitome for hyperbole. I am not liking you, because you constantly point out the message that you hate china.

we're all a different culture and should respect and....ugh, i'm too tired for this, sigh
splur
When there's money, there's a will. You'd be weak to let copyright laws slow you down.

"Oh, the Chinese created the Trebuchet. Right, we're very sorry, we'll use something else to conquest and destroy lands because that intellectual property is yours. Same with gunpowder, right." -Europeans/Everyone
azzkicker
QUOTE(KarKui @ May 20 2007, 09:22 AM) [snapback]2955690[/snapback]
...right, so wait, Japan pwnd China? how so?

does anybody here agree that azzkicker, needs some @$$ kicking?

i'll be blunt here, because i'm not in a flashy mood to be calm and collected, and i'm sure many would agree with me that you're noob, and a self-loving, condescending, ridiculous pain in the arse, which sums up the defintion of 'fu-khead' and an epitome for hyperbole. I am not liking you, because you constantly point out the message that you hate china.

we're all a different culture and should respect and....ugh, i'm too tired for this, sigh


the true hurts don't it!? as for respect please just look the thread topic china has no respect for others so why should i respect them?

for a large country with a billion people you'd think one or two people would have an orginal idea for theme park. NOPE. and trust me don't even bring that billion people attacking taking over countries b/c most of those poeple are poor and weak top it off they are growing old. i even heard the people in china have no respect for their country too. HAHHHA sure.gif
02tonyl
QUOTE(azzkicker @ May 20 2007, 11:57 AM) [snapback]2955844[/snapback]
the true hurts don't it!? as for respect please just look the thread topic china has no respect for others so why should i respect them?

for a large country with a billion people you'd think one or two people would have an orginal idea for theme park. NOPE. and trust me don't even bring that billion people attacking taking over countries b/c most of those poeple are poor and weak top it off they are growing old. i even heard the people in china have no respect for their country too. HAHHHA sure.gif


A flame war is comming. Btw are you a korean ?
so?im_a_chink
QUOTE(azzkicker @ May 18 2007, 06:54 PM) [snapback]2952925[/snapback]
WOW REALLY PATHETIC! EVEN KFC GOT STOLEN!

there are real KFCs in China. I bet those are photoshopped
EvilAsianDude
QUOTE(azzkicker @ May 20 2007, 11:57 AM) [snapback]2955844[/snapback]
the true hurts don't it!? as for respect please just look the thread topic china has no respect for others so why should i respect them?

for a large country with a billion people you'd think one or two people would have an orginal idea for theme park. NOPE. and trust me don't even bring that billion people attacking taking over countries b/c most of those poeple are poor and weak top it off they are growing old. i even heard the people in china have no respect for their country too. HAHHHA sure.gif


Topic creator needs to realize that hes making a complete jackass of himself. Ok, some Chinese guy copied Disneyland big whoop its not the end of the world. China invented the compass, printing press, paper, gunpowder as well as a host of other inventions. I dont see copying Disney as something that will end China.

The topic title reads as "japan pwnd china", pwn implies that that one entity beat the another in a humiliating fashion. In other words you are implying that the nation of Japan defeated all of China(including every single elderly and newborn chinese person). For someone to equate a journalist exposing a theme park with nationality is not only absurd but also flat out retarded. If you consider Chinese disney land to be absurd, then look at your own behavior for another dose of absurd.

Not to mention the fact that Japan has been shamelessly copying the west for decades. If youre Korean(and I pray to god you arnt) you are an utter disgrace and I suggest you leave AF. Go drink those fluids under your mothers sink or sleep on a hay mattress doused in gasoline and lit on fire.
Titanium
Only on AF can a topic regarding China copying others is titled Japan PWND China.
Chinese DesertFox
QUOTE(azzkicker @ May 18 2007, 05:54 PM) [snapback]2952925[/snapback]
WOW REALLY PATHETIC! EVEN KFC GOT STOLEN!

You do realize that this is a work of photoshop, don't you?

Anyway, the president of this "Shijingshan" park is just trying to make a quick buck; and with China's weak IPR laws, it's quite possible to do so.
TAW
Nuke China....now.
TAW
QUOTE(Chinese DesertFox @ May 20 2007, 04:06 PM) [snapback]2956204[/snapback]
You do realize that this is a work of photoshop, don't you?

Anyway, the president of this "Shijingshan" park is just trying to make a quick buck; and with China's weak IPR laws, it's quite possible to do so.



Quit making excuses with your gay looking F-16/Lavi wannabe signature picture.
lilazndude
QUOTE(azzkicker @ May 18 2007, 02:58 PM) [snapback]2952481[/snapback]
http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=1678 biggthumpup.gif biggthumpup.gif biggthumpup.gif

Some have claimed that the park is illegally copying Disney’s Minnie Mouse. However, the park’s operators have insisted that the character on the right is not a mouse. It is a cat with very large ears!

After some searching, I managed to find an English language news article that mentions this fine amusment park:

With its slogan “Disneyland is too far,” Beijing’s Shijingshan Amusement Park features a replica of Cinderella’s Castle, with staff dressed like Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs and other Disney characters.

None of this is authorized by Disney - but that has not stopped the state-owned park from creating its own counterfeit version of the Magic Kingdom in a brazen example of the sort of open and widespread copyright piracy that has Washington fuming.

The United States announced Monday it would file a case at the World Trade Organization over rampant copyright piracy in China, a practice which US companies say deprives them of billions of dollars each year.
But 31-year-old housewife Zhang Li betrays a typical Chinese attitude on the issue while chasing her young son around the park.

“I don’t understand why that is such a big problem. Shouldn’t others be able to use those characters besides [Disney]?” she asks.

No, no, lady. You’ve got it all wrong. They aren’t using Disney characters. It’s a big-eared cat, not a mouse. Come on!


that one ugly snow white. LOL

i though shrek couldn't get uglier. thanks china government.


STOP STEALING CHINA! WHAT UP WITH CHINA STEALING THIS DAYS? FIRST FROM KOREA THAN FROM DISNEY!!

you're just mad cuz you had a bad childhood.
azzkicker
yeah i did b/c all my toys were made in china.

too bad my moms couldn't afford toys made from taiwan.

YaoRockets
QUOTE(azzkicker @ May 20 2007, 05:49 PM) [snapback]2956360[/snapback]
yeah i did b/c all my toys were made in china.

too bad my moms couldn't afford toys made from taiwan.


you should cut her head off while she's asleep ... you know, go Japanese

/sarcasm

Pink Cream
QUOTE(02tonyl @ May 21 2007, 03:40 AM) [snapback]2955903[/snapback]
A flame war is comming. Btw are you a korean ?

i think hes filipino shrug.gif
azzkicker
QUOTE(Pink Cream @ May 20 2007, 07:09 PM) [snapback]2956502[/snapback]
i think hes filipino shrug.gif


no

QUOTE(02tonyl @ May 20 2007, 12:40 PM) [snapback]2955903[/snapback]
A flame war is comming. Btw are you a korean ?


and no!

why does my race matters? so you some materials to flame me?
moobie
learn how to spell, retard.
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