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honeyfresh
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18729540/

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Dried apples preserved with a cancer-causing chemical.

Frozen catfish laden with banned antibiotics.

Scallops and sardines coated with putrefying bacteria.

Mushrooms laced with illegal pesticides.

These were among the 107 food imports from China that the Food and Drug Administration detained at U.S. ports just last month, agency documents reveal, along with more than 1,000 shipments of tainted Chinese dietary supplements, toxic Chinese cosmetics and counterfeit Chinese medicines.

For years, U.S. inspection records show, China has flooded the United States with foods unfit for human consumption. And for years, FDA inspectors have simply returned to Chinese importers the small portion of those products they caught -- many of which turned up at U.S. borders again, making a second or third attempt at entry.

Now the confluence of two events -- the highly publicized contamination of U.S. chicken, pork and fish with tainted Chinese pet food ingredients and this week's resumption of high-level economic and trade talks with China -- has activists and members of Congress demanding that the United States tell China it is fed up.
Type98G
They need to used draconian measures to fix this embarrassment.
honeyfresh
Even if Chinese produce wasn't tainted with carcinogenic additives, I still wouldn't want to eat any of it.

Chinese soil contains so much human sewage due to its massive population, and their sloppy industrialization and lack of concern for pollution is probably causing their soil and water to be filled with carcinogenic chemicals and heavy metals too.

The west should just stop importing all food from China. It won't be any big loss, the Americas and Africa produce more than enough to meet the west's demands. And their produce is healthier and argubly better tasting too.

The fruit produced in Argentina is far, far better than anything you could find in Asia.
moobie
Taiwan's fruit >
Adee
Yeah I agree with that.
cao_ni_mao
Chinese just love to cut corners as long as it saves a cent even if it means poisoning a bunch of people.

Honestly if it were up to me i'd order the death penalty on anyone responsible for such practices.
Type98G
They need to used more up to date laws and regulation or we can do the old ways and just behead them as in imperial Confucianism time biggthumpup.gif
Magic Night
A lot of them go to hk often just to buy food.
Chinese DesertFox
It's sad to see how far some Chinese have taken this economic tidal wave, disregarding the value of human life for a few more bucks.
WarEngineer
it's all because human life is too cheap in china. too many of us .....

but it's not the same in other places of the world..
china still got lots of laws to make and enforce
so?im_a_chink
oh plz. every country makes hazardous foods.
karupt
And yet China's life expentency is quite high... so, it isn't as big as most of you claim it is.
Low_cost_calls_to_asia
it is not there is no safty or regulations or laws. it is more of lack of enforcement and the lack of interest of enforcement as some have conflict of interest. Enforcement is usually done locally not from the central gov. locals enforcing the laws would hurt their local economy which would reflect badly in their own annual "growth"
Aiwo
This is where I get MAD at China. And where I look up to Japan.

China is making Asia look stupid.

Who cares about 5000 years of culture if these unethical/immoral/all-about-money/fu-k human well-being practices are common in China.
tooooswt
QUOTE(honeyfresh @ May 20 2007, 08:27 AM) *
These were among the 107 food imports from China that the Food and Drug Administration detained at U.S. ports just last month, agency documents reveal, along with more than 1,000 shipments of tainted Chinese dietary supplements


US also has problems regulating its own dietary supplements. FDA (Food & Drug Adminstration) doesn't regulate these products, they just have the burden of proving that the products are unsafe.

Aiwo
LOSING FACE

comes to my mind

still, I don't think Chinese government cares

and I truly disapprove of it

look at other countries food, French, Japanese, they are associated with luxury and high-quality
moobie
haha billions and billions of tons of food and drugs and a few people dying =/= epidemic, though it is a massive problem.
Aiwo
I mean

this way China will (and IS) never seen as a 'proper' country and it makes their countries look so much more superior.

I want to send Chinese (food)-companies to a camp
StephenDFAgain
QUOTE(Aiwo @ May 21 2007, 01:12 PM) *
This is where I get MAD at China. And where I look up to Japan.

China is making Asia look stupid.

Who cares about 5000 years of culture if these unethical/immoral/all-about-money/fu-k human well-being practices are common in China.


why do you have to bring Japan and China's 5000 years of history into this discussion??

yajthaugluv
The US should worry about its own failure to monitor its own backyard produces. All they do is complain...
Henry123
QUOTE(Aiwo @ May 21 2007, 01:12 PM) *
This is where I get MAD at China. And where I look up to Japan.

China is making Asia look stupid.

Who cares about 5000 years of culture if these unethical/immoral/all-about-money/fu-k human well-being practices are common in China.

Dont blame all of China for some corrupt practices by certain people. The government has to tighten regulations.
Its not like Japan and other countries hasnt done some stupid things either. eg whale hunting or the Minamata Bay mercury poisoning incident etc. Or America with the Thalidomide drug incident (which was later discovered to cause birth defects).
China industrially and technologically hasnt caught up to other advance nations yet.
Aznomad
QUOTE(yajthaugluv @ May 22 2007, 05:48 PM) *
The US should worry about its own failure to monitor its own backyard produces. All they do is complain...

i remember watching a report bout that they were pickn up tomatos and stuff off streets that fell out of the box and pissing on the boxes of veggies and crap
baal
I think China is going through a rough and tumble phase of unrestrained capitalism similar to that experienced in America during the period from 1880-1920. If you get a chance read a book by Upton Sinclair entitled The Jungle.
Lapin_Bleu
QUOTE(Aiwo @ May 22 2007, 08:09 PM) *
LOSING FACE

comes to my mind

still, I don't think Chinese government cares

and I truly disapprove of it

look at other countries food, French, Japanese, they are associated with luxury and high-quality


I am French and i think Chinese food are great, i love them as much as French or Japanese food.
of course there is some place where food is better or where food is bad. but in Chinese culture food is important and they have many many great dishes.

as too American sorry guys but most of american enforcement law anti-imported product sucks.
France has more than 360 kind of Cheese and most of them would be prohibited due to USA law, and no French has Is great, because i love chinese food in France and i have been to China and i love Chinese food in China too (even better).

China might use a lot of pesticide and things but USA also use OGM in their product wich hasn't proven to be safe, even in France we have some issue with soil taking too much pesticide, i hope China will soon find a way to be more ecologic in their own interest and in the interest of their export market.
CJK
with no enforcement and regulation bodies things like this will continue to be rampant.

here's today's news

China probes 'tainted' toothpaste

China says is investigating reports that toothpaste contaminated with a potentially lethal chemical had been exported to Central America.

Thousands of tubes of Chinese-made toothpaste have been confiscated in Panama and the Dominican Republic.

The toothpaste contains diethylene glycol, a toxic chemical used in engine coolants, authorities there say.

A series of scares over the safety of Chinese products have recently aroused global concern...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6684563.stm


Few other recent dangers...

March 2007: Melamine is found in wheat gluten exports from China for use in pet food, prompting a recall of at least 100 pet food brands

Nov 2006: A dye farmers fed to ducks to make their eggs look fresher is found to contain cancer-causing properties and 5,000 ducks are culled

August 2006: About 40 people in Beijing contract meningitis after eating partially cooked snails at a chain of restaurants
manko12
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Q(^.^Q) Loc85
Damn, that's horrible. They even tried a second and third attempt to bring the same contaminated food in? Mutherfu-kers!!! madgo.gif

Totally disrespectful. nono.gif

The Chinese government needs to put the smackdown on whoever did that, or at least severely penalize their asses.
How does the Chinese government make sure those companies are meeting the U.S.'s FDA requirements?
They need to shape up else lose a lot of business. Did you guys hear about the pet food from China that was killing people's pets?, mainly dogs. It just happen recently. Truly shameful.

Hopefully these people will sue the hell out of those bastards. Fcuking assholes. That could have been my dog. icon_sad.gif
LaoShare
Maybe we Chinese are just as greedy as the Americans; we will do anything for a buck. So sad............
vinnie
don't eat chinese products from china.
This is what I have been telling you all for the longest time.
finally , there are news articles written about it.
peta9
QUOTE(vinnie @ May 24 2007, 05:58 PM) *
don't eat chinese products from china.
This is what I have been telling you all for the longest time.
finally , there are news articles written about it.


So no shopping at the chinese store?
moviez
"The West's lack of food safety......"

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Caution: Some soft drinks may seriously harm your health
http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article2586652.ece

Expert links additive to cell damage
By Martin Hickman, Consumer Affairs Correspondent
Published: 27 May 2007

A new health scare erupted over soft drinks last night amid evidence they may cause serious cell damage. Research from a British university suggests a common preservative found in drinks such as Fanta and Pepsi Max has the ability to switch off vital parts of DNA.

The problem - more usually associated with ageing and alcohol abuse - can eventually lead to cirrhosis of the liver and degenerative diseases such as Parkinson's.

The findings could have serious consequences for the hundreds of millions of people worldwide who consume fizzy drinks. They will also intensify the controversy about food additives, which have been linked to hyperactivity in children.

Concerns centre on the safety of E211, known as sodium benzoate, a preservative used for decades by the £74bn global carbonated drinks industry. Sodium benzoate derives from benzoic acid. It occurs naturally in berries, but is used in large quantities to prevent mould in soft drinks such as Sprite, Oasis and Dr Pepper. It is also added to pickles and sauces.

Sodium benzoate has already been the subject of concern about cancer because when mixed with the additive vitamin C in soft drinks, it causes benzene, a carcinogenic substance. A Food Standards Agency survey of benzene in drinks last year found high levels in four brands which were removed from sale.

Now, an expert in ageing at Sheffield University, who has been working on sodium benzoate since publishing a research paper in 1999, has decided to speak out about another danger. Professor Peter Piper, a professor of molecular biology and biotechnology, tested the impact of sodium benzoate on living yeast cells in his laboratory. What he found alarmed him: the benzoate was damaging an important area of DNA in the "power station" of cells known as the mitochondria.

He told The Independent on Sunday: "These chemicals have the ability to cause severe damage to DNA in the mitochondria to the point that they totally inactivate it: they knock it out altogether.

"The mitochondria consumes the oxygen to give you energy and if you damage it - as happens in a number if diseased states - then the cell starts to malfunction very seriously. And there is a whole array of diseases that are now being tied to damage to this DNA - Parkinson's and quite a lot of neuro-degenerative diseases, but above all the whole process of ageing."

The Food Standards Agency (FSA) backs the use of sodium benzoate in the UK and it has been approved by the European Union but last night, MPs called for it to investigate urgently.

Norman Baker, the Liberal Democrat chair of Parliament's all-party environment group said: "Many additives are relatively new and their long-term impact cannot be certain. This preservative clearly needs to be investigated further by the FSA."

A review of sodium benzoate by the World Health Organisation in 2000 concluded that it was safe, but it noted that the available science supporting its safety was "limited".

Professor Piper, whose work has been funded by a government research council, said tests conducted by the US Food and Drug Administration were out of date.

"The food industry will say these compounds have been tested and they are complete safe," he said. "By the criteria of modern safety testing, the safety tests were inadequate. Like all things, safety testing moves forward and you can conduct a much more rigorous safety test than you could 50 years ago."

He advised parents to think carefully about buying drinks with preservatives until the quantities in products were proved safe by new tests. "My concern is for children who are drinking large amounts," he said.

Coca-Cola and Britvic's Pepsi Max and Diet Pepsi all contain sodium benzoate. Their makers and the British Soft Drinks Association said they entrusted the safety of additives to the Government.
YaoRockets
china lacks food safety regulation because the head regulator just lost his head over corruption ...
princessjean
QUOTE(peta9 @ May 24 2007, 06:49 PM) *
So no shopping at the chinese store?



Buy Taiwanese food. They wont be contaminated.

And i rather buy Korean and Japanese Food also. duh2.gif
moobie
i buy taiwanese food if i want anything chinese tasting.

hopefully this will get more greedy officials axed so that chinese people will not be poisoned any more.
ZturboZ
It'll get worse before it gets better. Sad but that is the side effect of modernization process.
Option
I don't mind fake clothing or DVDs, but fake medicines and tainted food being distributed is absolutely disgusting. Although I really want to live in China for a while sometime in the future, it is news like this that makes me wary.


hugo boss
I would say at least 75% - 80% of the imported foods from asian grocery stores is from China ?
moobie
it isn't where i live.
ktchong
Scary. I stock up my fridge with microwaveable Chinese food. No wonder my health feels like $hit recently. Now I shouldn't be having them anymore. bawling.gif
mndeg
you guys are retarded, all countries go through this phase. you think america was the safest place for consumers in the 30's? LOL.

in fact most of our fruits, vegetables. and meat, in america are NOT inspected.
lilzz
objectively speaking, this chinese food problem is really a blessing in disguise. Right now, it's really is in the spotlight where the government will have to enforce more regulation and people will adopt different type of mentality relate to this. It will help in the long run. Meanwhile, stay away from it for awhile till they catch up on the learning curve.
02tonyl
QUOTE(lilzz @ May 30 2007, 12:40 PM) *
objectively speaking, this chinese food problem is really a blessing in disguise. Right now, it's really is in the spotlight where the government will have to enforce more regulation and people will adopt different type of mentality relate to this. It will help in the long run. Meanwhile, stay away from it for awhile till they catch up on the learning curve.



yup biggthumpup.gif
ktchong
QUOTE(mndeg @ May 30 2007, 10:40 AM) *
you guys are retarded, all countries go through this phase. you think america was the safest place for consumers in the 30's? LOL.

Yeah, but do you want to get food poisoning and cancer from eating Chinese imports when China is going through its "phase"?


QUOTE(mndeg @ May 30 2007, 10:40 AM) *
in fact most of our fruits, vegetables. and meat, in america are NOT inspected.

Because American food products are mostly safe and China's are not?
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