Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: -
Asia Finest Discussion Forum > Asian Culture > Japanese Chat
Pages: 1, 2
alkk
-
Qkhanh
If this japanese person hasn't heard the language so much before, then it would usually sound annoying or weird. Same goes with any language to any kind of listener.
surf101
Freakin troll, seriously. That's sad because alot of my family members speak Japanese. It's a shame how anonymous trolls can try to reflect a certain ethnicity in a way to alter one's perception by posting stupid $hit.
AgentBach
They might as well find themselves annoying if they did, I find German really annoying. Why do they all speak in high pitch, nasally voices? I feel like my foreheads going to burst.
ryukyu magic
What's with the way people down south speak English. I find that $hit annoying.
bigboy
i think every language in the world is annoying
Goombaking209
I like the sound of Thai so please STFU
Graham_Cracker07
QUOTE(ryukyu magic @ Jun 3 2007, 07:04 PM) [snapback]2981491[/snapback]
What's with the way people down south speak English. I find that $hit annoying.


Hey dont hate, i have that accent, lol. But there's different kinds of Southern accents. Yeah, there's a white trash Southern accent, but then there's also an educated Southern accent, then there's a black Southern accent.

But ne ways, Japanese & Korean sound the same to me. Last time i heard them both was on the Miss Universe pagent. They don't sound different really. Here's a place where you can listen to all the Southeast Asian languages plus Japanese. It's cool....

http://www.asean.or.jp/eng/sakura/index.htm

retardsrox
we should all speak the inuit language!
lovidentity
It depends on who's speaking it. My Viet friend speaks the Vietnamese in a very sweet and quiet manner, so it sounds very nice, but when her older sister speaks it in a clamorous manner, it sounds really harsh. Japanese sounds really pretty when spoken in the stereotypical lady-like manner and sounds really cool when spoken by a macho man icon_wink.gif It's annoying though when schools girls chatter in Japanese... As for the Korean language, I don't like it when boisterous Ahjummas speak it...sound too aggressive.

edit: aw~ I LOVE the southern accent (I'm from Northeast). It's just fun to listen to and sometimes sounds really sweet...in an old-fashion american way. I CAN'T stand NY city accent though. So annyoing!
Chan-Ho
I personally think Korean language sounds better than Japanese. My opinion tho. I love the honorific endings da, ga, yo, shyo, dai, etc. Makes the Korean language sound very poetic. Korean is also more fluent and mono-tone than Japanese.

And no, I am not a Korean speaker, although I am learning.
splur
QUOTE(ryukyu magic @ Jun 3 2007, 08:04 PM) [snapback]2981491[/snapback]
What's with the way people down south speak English. I find that $hit annoying.
LOL! Agreed! At first I thought they were being pretentious and a bit stupid, no offense. If it's any consolation, I got used to it and it started to sound normal.

I've got a question for you Graham. What does the... well I call it Canadian accent, but the northern accent sound like to you? And not the stupid "we're going snowboarding eh?" thing. Just the accent most newscasters have.
yonsama
QUOTE(Chan-Ho @ Jun 4 2007, 10:18 AM) [snapback]2982958[/snapback]
I personally think Korean language sounds better than Japanese. My opinion tho. I love the honorific endings da, ga, yo, shyo, etc. Makes the Korean language sound very poetic. Korean is also more fluent and mono-tone than Japanese.

And no, I am not a Korean speaker, although I am learning.



Um....

da, ga, yo, shyo... Japanese uses those too laugh.gif
roses
QUOTE(Graham_Cracker07 @ Jun 3 2007, 09:18 PM) [snapback]2982085[/snapback]
But ne ways, Japanese & Korean sound the same to me. Last time i heard them both was on the Miss Universe pagent.


Well, not to me. they sound pretty different. Maybe more similar to each other than any other languages in the world, but still. I saw the pageant too. Didnt sound all that same to me. Maybe its different cuz i speak korean. but i dont know.
smiter
Japanese and Korean sound totally different (ex. Korean has way more vowel sounds just for starters). It basically boils down to which one you are exposed to first. I prefer the sound of Japanese because I have studied it and can speak it a fair bit myself. I know Western people who have lived in Korea first (exposed to it everyday), and they tend to prefer the sound of Korean. Neither is inherently 'better' or 'more poetic' (that's a load of nonsense), they're just different.

Mua
QUOTE(AgentBach @ Jun 4 2007, 01:56 AM) [snapback]2981480[/snapback]
They might as well find themselves annoying if they did, I find German really annoying. Why do they all speak in high pitch, nasally voices? I feel like my foreheads going to burst.

lol, that seems to be the perception, when i spoke german in the u.s the ppl thought i was talking french because they said it didnt sound nasty ^^
Graham_Cracker07
QUOTE(splur @ Jun 4 2007, 10:00 PM) [snapback]2983781[/snapback]
LOL! Agreed! At first I thought they were being pretentious and a bit stupid, no offense. If it's any consolation, I got used to it and it started to sound normal.

I've got a question for you Graham. What does the... well I call it Canadian accent, but the northern accent sound like to you? And not the stupid "we're going snowboarding eh?" thing. Just the accent most newscasters have.


Lol... well to me, the Canadian accent doesn't sound much different from the nothern US accent. Yall just sound really timid. I dunno how to explain it. I think that's why ppl stereotype Canadians as nice. And yall say a few things different like "about" is "aboot" <--- But not exactly like that, that's the closest i can get to typing it down. But yeah, i've been up there twice and my Canadian cousins come down here a lot too.
Graham_Cracker07
QUOTE(roses @ Jun 5 2007, 03:13 AM) [snapback]2984179[/snapback]
Well, not to me. they sound pretty different. Maybe more similar to each other than any other languages in the world, but still. I saw the pageant too. Didnt sound all that same to me. Maybe its different cuz i speak korean. but i dont know.


Yeah, i think it's my foreign ears. I know that Korean & Japan belong to 2 different language families. But I don't think it's so much the actual language that sounds the same, just the way they speak. Meaning, if they were both speaking English, they'd have a similar accent.
kollision
Filipino (well the way most speak it here) is the most annoying language I have ever heard. Second would probably be Armenian, but Im learning to cope with it. Again depends on whose speaking it. Chinese and Viet isnt really annoying due to the sounds, but when I look at their mouths, I wonder how it comes out the way it does, especially Chinese. They go so fast its as if the sound comes out first.
Graham_Cracker07
^ How does Ilocano sound to u. Or do ppl speak Ilocano in Hawaii? Does it sound any different from Tagalog? But yeah, i used to think Tagalog sounded annoying until I heard certain other languages. I came to an appreciation. And I think our language sounds good in music, it flows. Like in our commercial songs. Haha
dancingbymyself
The Japanese exchange student at my school thinks korean is "cute" when girls speak it and "sexy" when men speak.
kollision
QUOTE(Graham_Cracker07 @ Jun 5 2007, 10:48 AM) [snapback]2984517[/snapback]
^ How does Ilocano sound to u. Or do ppl speak Ilocano in Hawaii? Does it sound any different from Tagalog? But yeah, i used to think Tagalog sounded annoying until I heard certain other languages. I came to an appreciation. And I think our language sounds good in music, it flows. Like in our commercial songs. Haha


I dont think Ive heard Ilocano before. Like I mentioned before (I dont want to say the wrong thing, I get confused with the Filipinos use of "dialect") one of my friends speaks Filipino (again not sure if its Tagalog or not, I dont want to make that mistake) where it sounds ok, not annoying, but most of the ones here, no offense, sounds like roosters.

I dont live in Hawaii so I dont know what they speak. But my Filipino relatives and even Uncles/Aunts dont even speak Filipino. I dont think they know how to either. I know for sure that my cousins dont, but I dont think my Uncles or Aunts know either. As far as pure Filipinos from PI, I dont know, as I dont know any, all I know are mixes.

Actually Cebu is Ilocano right? Now that I think about it, I think it is annoying, since one of my moms friend is from Cebu. If its not, then my apoligies.
Graham_Cracker07
QUOTE(kollision @ Jun 5 2007, 11:11 AM) [snapback]2984547[/snapback]
I dont think Ive heard Ilocano before. Like I mentioned before (I dont want to say the wrong thing, I get confused with the Filipinos use of "dialect") one of my friends speaks Filipino (again not sure if its Tagalog or not, I dont want to make that mistake) where it sounds ok, not annoying, but most of the ones here, no offense, sounds like roosters.

I dont live in Hawaii so I dont know what they speak. But my Filipino relatives and even Uncles/Aunts dont even speak Filipino. I dont think they know how to either. I know for sure that my cousins dont, but I dont think my Uncles or Aunts know either. As far as pure Filipinos from PI, I dont know, as I dont know any, all I know are mixes.

Actually Cebu is Ilocano right? Now that I think about it, I think it is annoying, since one of my moms friend is from Cebu. If its not, then my apoligies.


Oh, i thought u lived in Hawaii icon_redface.gif But yeah, something like 85% of the Filipinos in Hawaii are Ilocano, so that's why i asked. I dunno if they speak Ilocano tho because most of the Ilocanos here don't speak it anymore. Don't worry, when ppl say "Filipino" it is assumed that they mean Tagalog, because Filipino is based on Tagalog. They are actual languages that are mutually unintelligible (sp?) Filipinos just call them dialects. Ppl in Cebu speak Cebuano. Ilocanos live up in the northern part of the Philippines. Ilocano, to me, sounds more like a Mainland Southeast Asian language, more so than the other Filipino languages.
bigboy
you know, the interesting thing is Korean and Japanese just happens to be the two languages that are isolated from every language group. Theyre just isolated in the corner with each other. People have said its very mysterious and interesting.

QUOTE(smiter @ Jun 5 2007, 02:04 AM) [snapback]2984197[/snapback]
Japanese and Korean sound totally different (ex. Korean has way more vowel sounds just for starters). It basically boils down to which one you are exposed to first. I prefer the sound of Japanese because I have studied it and can speak it a fair bit myself. I know Western people who have lived in Korea first (exposed to it everyday), and they tend to prefer the sound of Korean. Neither is inherently 'better' or 'more poetic' (that's a load of nonsense), they're just different.


when he said that korean was poetic, he didnt mean the language overall was poetic. He was just talking about how korean can turn into a poetic language when it comes to poems. cuz in korean poems, the way its written tends to change a lot, like the choice of vocabulary and how the sentences are ended. it gets very flowy.

Well, thats what im thinkin hes talkin about
smiter
QUOTE(bigboy @ Jun 5 2007, 12:16 PM) [snapback]2984638[/snapback]
you know, the interesting thing is Korean and Japanese just happens to be the two languages that are isolated from every language group. Theyre just isolated in the corner with each other. People have said its very mysterious and interesting.

Yep, that's why they sound so different. They have a lot of similar vocabulary though (borrowed from Chinese).

QUOTE
when he said that korean was poetic, he didnt mean the language overall was poetic. He was just talking about how korean can turn into a poetic language when it comes to poems. cuz in korean poems, the way its written tends to change a lot, like the choice of vocabulary and how the sentences are ended. it gets very flowy.

Um, the thing is every language is like that. In regards to rhyming, Japanese is easier than Korean because every word always ends in one of just 5 vowels (and just one consonant, 'n'), and is very monotone. Or I could easily say English is more poetic because of the way it flows (and has more vocabulary overall than any other language), and half the people on here wouldn't even understand what I mean, because they're not native speakers. Same way Korean doesn't sound especially nice for me because I don't understand it, though I'm sure I would find it nice if I took the time to ever study it.

If you've ever taken a linguistics course, one of the first things they teach is that all languages are equal in respect to functionality - there is no superior or inferior ones. Moreover, people almost always consider their own language to be more beautiful (surprise surprise) and depending on what they speak, may find other languages to be more or less pleasant sounding, relative to their own. Most of it just boils down to people not really knowing though - like German gets such a bad rap, but actually I find it can sound really beautiful, and German poetry is some of the best in the world. Unfortunatley, most English people just see an image of Hitler shouting angrily on a podium when they think of German...
nabi
QUOTE(smiter @ Jun 5 2007, 02:04 AM) [snapback]2984197[/snapback]
Japanese and Korean sound totally different (ex. Korean has way more vowel sounds just for starters).


Don't you mean consonants? They sound different but not totally different. I have plenty of Japanese foreign exchange friends and they often laugh to themselves when they hear me speak in Korean because they say the words can mean something different/they translate it to be something different in their own language. With the exception of certain Korean words with certain "bachims" and endings, they have no problem pronouncing Korean.

This is one example I've run into on youtube: (click) Ayumi Lee's Cutie Honey. Apparently, it has to do with Korean lyrics being translated into something other in Japanese just by sound.

Anyways, who cares if others think Korean is annoying? Any language you can't understand is annoying. Honestly, all languages I can't comprehend sounds annoying, including the so-called "language of love," French. Maybe this should be moved to Kchat. There're more responses from non-Japanese.

smiter
QUOTE(nabi @ Jun 5 2007, 01:08 PM) [snapback]2984750[/snapback]
Don't you mean consonants? They sound different but not totally different. I have plenty of Japanese foreign exchange friends and they often laugh to themselves when they hear me speak in Korean because they say the words can mean something different/they translate it to be something different in their own language. With the exception of certain Korean words with certain "bachims" and endings, they have no problem pronouncing Korean.

Um, they are as different from each other as from other languages, but they're not very similar. Ex. Italian or Spanish are probably closer to Japanese in pronunciation than Korean is. But I guess they're not "totally different", in the sense that, yes, they do have shared sound phonemes. But then every language does.

Koreans and Japanese can sometimes pick out the odd word because as I mentioned they both have shared Chinese vocabulary. But the pronunciation can be totally different. Korean also has many borrowed Japanese words, especially slang (or so I've been told). Same as Japanese people using English words like makudonarudo ha-nba-ga- (McDonalds hamburger). It sounds funny.

QUOTE
Anyways, who cares if others think Korean is annoying? Any language you can't understand is annoying. Honestly, all languages I can't comprehend sounds annoying, including the so-called "language of love," French.

My point exactly.
roses
Ive heard lot of people say korean sounds like a more rougher and aggressive version of Japanese. And a lot of poeple said it sounds like fighting or something. I was a little surprised about that.
the_falcon
QUOTE(roses @ Jun 5 2007, 05:53 PM) [snapback]2985157[/snapback]
Ive heard lot of people say korean sounds like a more rougher and aggressive version of Japanese. And a lot of poeple said it sounds like fighting or something. I was a little surprised about that.



i like the way thai sounds ......... cant describe it but it sounds cool when tony jaa speaks ............. beerchug.gif
alkk
QUOTE(smiter @ Jun 5 2007, 02:34 PM) [snapback]2984795[/snapback]
Um, they are as different from each other as from other languages, but they're not very similar. Ex. Italian or Spanish are probably closer to Japanese in pronunciation than Korean is. But I guess they're not "totally different", in the sense that, yes, they do have shared sound phonemes. But then every language does.

Koreans and Japanese can sometimes pick out the odd word because as I mentioned they both have shared Chinese vocabulary. But the pronunciation can be totally different. Korean also has many borrowed Japanese words, especially slang (or so I've been told). Same as Japanese people using English words like makudonarudo ha-nba-ga- (McDonalds hamburger). It sounds funny.
My point exactly.



you have no idea what you're talking about...
yonsama
Korean sounds like a machine gun
Japanese sounds like a paintball gun

there.
alkk
^ I like that analogy

then I would say Chinese is like two swords...
smiter
QUOTE(alkk @ Jun 5 2007, 06:18 PM) [snapback]2985196[/snapback]
you have no idea what you're talking about...

man, stfu. if you have something to contribute or any corrections to give, then do so, otherwise keep your fat mouth shut.
alkk
QUOTE(smiter @ Jun 5 2007, 08:24 PM) [snapback]2985284[/snapback]
man, stfu. if you have something to contribute or any corrections to give, then do so, otherwise keep your fat mouth shut.




you must of failed that linguistic101 class you took..
smiter
QUOTE(alkk @ Jun 5 2007, 07:32 PM) [snapback]2985292[/snapback]
you must of failed that linguistic101 class you took..

Fu-ck you troll. You've got nothing, so go die.
alkk
QUOTE(smiter @ Jun 5 2007, 08:36 PM) [snapback]2985297[/snapback]
Fu-ck you troll. You've got nothing, so go die.


Harsh! I forgive you however, like Koreans forgiving the Japanese...
smiter
QUOTE(alkk @ Jun 5 2007, 07:40 PM) [snapback]2985302[/snapback]
Harsh! I forgive you however, like Koreans forgiving the Japanese...

Don't bother, troll. How about you quit wasting everyone's time?
yonsama
QUOTE(alkk @ Jun 5 2007, 04:44 PM) [snapback]2985228[/snapback]
^ I like that analogy

then I would say Chinese is like two swords...


If Korean sounds like a machine gun and Japan sounds like a paintball gun, Chinese sounds like those toy guns with those elctronic sounds that light up.

ppyyaaaooo chichichichic dddaaaoooo BBBBOOOOOOOO!!!

embarassedlaugh.gif
Mua
QUOTE(yonsama @ Jun 6 2007, 06:19 AM) [snapback]2985640[/snapback]
If Korean sounds like a machine gun and Japan sounds like a paintball gun, Chinese sounds like those toy guns with those elctronic sounds that light up.

ppyyaaaooo chichichichic dddaaaoooo BBBBOOOOOOOO!!!

embarassedlaugh.gif

bwahahahhahaha biggthumpup.gif
kollision
Is it just me or does Korean remind you of Armenian? I dont speak Korean so maybe thats the reason, but both of them heavily uses the throat from what my ears hear. Some Koreans and Armenians dont use it heavily, but I notice that some people do (majority).

QUOTE(Graham_Cracker07 @ Jun 5 2007, 11:23 AM) [snapback]2984561[/snapback]
Oh, i thought u lived in Hawaii icon_redface.gif But yeah, something like 85% of the Filipinos in Hawaii are Ilocano, so that's why i asked. I dunno if they speak Ilocano tho because most of the Ilocanos here don't speak it anymore. Don't worry, when ppl say "Filipino" it is assumed that they mean Tagalog, because Filipino is based on Tagalog. They are actual languages that are mutually unintelligible (sp?) Filipinos just call them dialects. Ppl in Cebu speak Cebuano. Ilocanos live up in the northern part of the Philippines. Ilocano, to me, sounds more like a Mainland Southeast Asian language, more so than the other Filipino languages.


Nope, I live on the mainland. About the Ilocano 85%, someone brought that up, not sure if it was Martin_Nuke or Illongo. Most of the statistics on Filipinos that I read are from that guy, so Im just guessing, but I did read that on these boards. If it is Ilocano, then I guess it makes sense if my Filipino relatives are Ilocano from what you are saying.

Is there are reason why they dont speak it anymore as compared to Tagalog?
Graham_Cracker07
QUOTE(kollision @ Jun 6 2007, 10:25 AM) [snapback]2986437[/snapback]
Nope, I live on the mainland. About the Ilocano 85%, someone brought that up, not sure if it was Martin_Nuke or Illongo. Most of the statistics on Filipinos that I read are from that guy, so Im just guessing, but I did read that on these boards. If it is Ilocano, then I guess it makes sense if my Filipino relatives are Ilocano from what you are saying.

Is there are reason why they dont speak it anymore as compared to Tagalog?


It's because Tagalog is the official language, the language that most Filipinos (regardless of ethnicity) can speak as a 2nd language. So in places like the US where there's a mix of Filipinos, most ppl are gonna speak Tagalog because they don't wanna exclude anyone. But now even at "Ilocano parties" I still hear only Tagalog, it kinda makes me mad, lol. But i'm not even Ilocano, i'm Bicolano. Yeah, it might be different in Hawaii since most of the Filipinos are Ilocano.

But here's a comparison of a phrase so you can see the differences:

Tagalog: Ang hindî marunong lumingón sa pinanggalingan ay hindî makararatíng sa paroroonan
Ilocano: Ti saán a tumaliaw iti naggapuanna, saán a makadánon iti papanánna
Bicolano: An dai tatao maghiling sa pighalian, dai makakaabot sa padudumanan
kollision
QUOTE(Graham_Cracker07 @ Jun 6 2007, 12:23 PM) [snapback]2986626[/snapback]
It's because Tagalog is the official language, the language that most Filipinos (regardless of ethnicity) can speak as a 2nd language. So in places like the US where there's a mix of Filipinos, most ppl are gonna speak Tagalog because they don't wanna exclude anyone. But now even at "Ilocano parties" I still hear only Tagalog, it kinda makes me mad, lol. But i'm not even Ilocano, i'm Bicolano. Yeah, it might be different in Hawaii since most of the Filipinos are Ilocano.

But here's a comparison of a phrase so you can see the differences:

Tagalog: Ang hindî marunong lumingón sa pinanggalingan ay hindî makararatíng sa paroroonan
Ilocano: Ti saán a tumaliaw iti naggapuanna, saán a makadánon iti papanánna
Bicolano: An dai tatao maghiling sa pighalian, dai makakaabot sa padudumanan


Wow there goes the hindi. Whenever I turn it to the international channel (basically asian stuff on it) I notice that like on TV Patrol they use Hindi a lot. I just have to ask, what does hindi mean?

Also, wheres Bicolano people located? I guess its cool that they dont want to exclude people. I know friends that speak other languages in front of me. Its probably just natural for them (since they start talking about it in english also, like what a lot of Flips I notice do) but it is considered rude the way I grew up. If the other person doesnt speak the language, speak in English.
Graham_Cracker07
^ Haha, you watch TV Patrol? lol... But "hindi" means "no"

If you look at a map of the Philippines and look at Luzon (the big island on top) there's a long peninsula extending from the bottom of it, that's the Bicol Peninsula. My mom is from a little island off to the east of the peninsula.
Janggdn
Of course Japanese ppl think the Korean language...Japanese ppl are Korean!
nabi
QUOTE(Janggdn @ Jun 7 2007, 04:19 PM) [snapback]2989333[/snapback]
Of course Japanese ppl think the Korean language...Japanese ppl are Korean!


...and bring on the flames.
kollision
QUOTE(Graham_Cracker07 @ Jun 7 2007, 02:53 PM) [snapback]2989054[/snapback]
^ Haha, you watch TV Patrol? lol... But "hindi" means "no"

If you look at a map of the Philippines and look at Luzon (the big island on top) there's a long peninsula extending from the bottom of it, that's the Bicol Peninsula. My mom is from a little island off to the east of the peninsula.


I used to watch Eat Bulaga too before TV Patrol replaced it embarassedlaugh.gif Id just watch it to listen to the language. Id hear all these "hindis" and would wonder what it meant. Oddly enough I never asked about it till now. They also have weird stories laugh.gif

Ah..cool. So your mom is from the Phillipines and your dad is white? I wasnt sure if you meant mixed as in Spanish/Filipino as a lot claim or literally your dad is white.
Graham_Cracker07
^ Yep, dad is a honky, haha. My mom is that Filipino/Spanish mix actually but she never really talks about it. Seems like she's ashamed, iono...
Shilla
I think Korean and Japanese sound similar but way different. Both languages have mono tone feel to them.
Musashino
QUOTE(alkk @ Jun 3 2007, 05:07 PM) [snapback]2981326[/snapback]
sounds annoying??? cuz Cantonese, Vietnamese, Thai all sound funny as hell to me..


Why are there still so many threads asking what an entire race thinks? confused.gif Are you trolls really that naive in thinking you can get a conclusive answer on an internet message board (especially this one)?

Seriously, you need to get out more.
Graham_Cracker07
QUOTE(Shilla @ Jun 9 2007, 10:25 AM) [snapback]2993092[/snapback]
I think Korean and Japanese sound similar but way different. Both languages have mono tone feel to them.


Yeah, that's what I think, not very expressive languages IMO. But Japanese sounds really good w/ music & it doesn't sound monotone when being sung. I dunno about Korean because I haven't heard much Korean music.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2009 Invision Power Services, Inc.