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Kambojiya
http://www.bangkokpost.com/News/13Jun2007_news04.php

Thailand is just making up news and planting evidence on their own. All evidence presented are circumstantial evidence, and cannot even link these groups to Cambodia, so why call them Cambodian?
The Thai media is trying to say Cambodia is responsible for Southern violence when we do not even support nor harbor any terrorists. I for one believe that they are trying to label Cambodia as an unsafe haven for tourists to travel, what we need to do cooperate with the United States and countries trying to start escalations so that we do not get caught up in attacks and mislabeling.

We have no animosity against Thailand, just their media labeling us as criminals and terrorists. STOP WITH THE HATEFUL MEDIA!!!

Here is what they claim, but i do not believe it, they are using Cambodians too broadly:
15 Cambodians thumbsdown.gif detained, one with bomb thumbsdown.gif gear

YUWADEE TUNYASIRI


Fifteen Cambodian Muslims allegedly bound for the deep South were detained at a checkpoint in Sa Kaeo province yesterday after one was found to have brought in gear that could be used to make bombs. A combined team of police, soldiers and customs officials searched a group of 15 Muslims from Cambodia and found a bag belonging to one of them containing two sets of electric circuit boards, one electric-relay system set, and five sets of wooden box parts.

Bomb experts were called in to perform checks on the devices which they said could be used to assemble home-made bombs.

Man Mat-aree, 29, the owner of the bag, claimed that the devices belonged to a Cambodian Muslim who asked him to bring the devices to another Muslim friend who lived along the Thai-Malaysian border.

He said he was told the devices would be used to make explosives for catching fish. The devices were later seized.

He and the 14 other Cambodians were interrogated before being sent back to their home country.

No charges were pressed against them as they all had the proper travel documents.

Meanwhile, Gen Wattanachai Chaimuenwong denied having linked some Cambodian Muslims entering the country to the Jemaah Islamiyah (JI) terrorist group,

Gen Wattanachai, the prime minister's adviser on security affairs, yesterday said he never gave a press interview linking Cambodian Muslims to the terrorist group as reported.

However, he admitted he had talked with some reporters about the southern problems but claimed he did not discuss any alleged involvement of some Cambodian Muslims in the JI network.

He asked the media to be careful in presenting news stories in ways that might affect bilateral cooperation between Thailand and its neighbours.

Earlier, Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen angrily denied published comments attributed to Gen Wattanachai that some Cambodian Muslims were fanning the Islamic insurgency in southern Thailand.

Hun Sen accused Thailand of trying to blame its own problems on other countries.

On the influx of Cambodian workers into the country, Gen Wattanachai said many Cambodian immigrants have arrived in Thailand legally en route to seeking jobs in the South. However, there is no record of their departure from Thailand.

He also denied giving information that Her Majesty the Queen's planned trip to the deep South in October was aimed at helping Thai Buddhists living in the three southern provinces bordering Malaysia.

He said the Queen was kind to all Thais regardless of their religious beliefs and wanted peace to be restored in the region quickly.He also denied any knowledge of reports that some ustazes, or Islamic religious teachers, detained on suspicion of involvement in the southern violence, had failed to report to authorities after their temporary release.

He said southern insurgents had no ideology. They carried out violent attacks on orders from their leaders.

He conceded the southern situation has grown increasingly violent due to financial support from donors outside and inside the country.
Lite Khmai
look at how many times they say "Cambodian Muslims". LMAO. Last time I check Cambodia was a Buddhist country. laugh.gif

Pure Garabage. thumbsdown.gif And this topic has already been posted I believe.
noyume
^there are muslims in cambodia. haha.
Guyer
Death to the Thais! icon_twisted.gif I kid, I kid. LOLz embarassedlaugh.gif
Lite Khmai
QUOTE(noyume @ Jun 12 2007, 06:46 PM) [snapback]3000460[/snapback]
^there are muslims in cambodia. haha.


but those are chams. They could have said Chams.

and isnt their southern border consist mostly muslims? Why does it have to be Cambodian huh? why you gotta hate on a brotha thumbsdown.gif ?
Goombaking209
And we are still the bad guys icon_sad.gif oh well fu-k the ignorant world.
Nikkie_nid
QUOTE
He said southern insurgents had no ideology. They carried out violent attacks on orders from their leaders.
If there is no ideology, why they say Cambodian muslim is involved?
stephenchow
Thailand is now becoming a F-U-C-K-E-D country, for once, Hun Sen is right, this is Thailand internal problems, dont accuse Cambodia.
transtic
BURNING ISSUE

QUOTE

It is in the nature of Thai generals, notably those that have retired, to try to make themselves useful or significant, to try to say something out of nothing. Sometimes their empty speeches create complicated problems for the nation.

Retired general Wattanachai Chaimuenwong, a security adviser to Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont, is one Thai general who fits the type. He suggested that Cambodian Muslims were part of the regional terrorist group Jemaah Islamiyah (JI), which is supporting the insurgency in the deep South.

His statement prompted a strong reaction from Phnom Penh, with Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen lashing out at the allegation, saying it was unacceptable. Hun Sen reminded the Thais that all people in power are the same: they love to find somebody to blame when they cannot find ways to solve a problem.

Deposed prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, who was toppled by Wattanachai's colleagues in the September coup, used to blame Malaysia for his failure to contain the violence. The general will remember when he was commander of the Third Army region, Thaksin shifted the blame to Burma for Thailand's failure to control narcotics along the border.

"Because of their own weakness, they are now finding others to blame," the Cambodian prime minister said in public on Monday. This was embarrassing for diplomat Surasak Suparat, the minister councillor at the Thai Embassy in Phnom Penh, who was present when Hun Sen made the statement.

Hun Sen told Surasak to take note and convey the message to Bangkok, adding that he had reached the point when he could not tolerate such allegations anymore.

It was not the first time Gen Wattanachai has made the allegation, but this time Cambodian foreign minister Hor Namhong stressed to Surasak - who was summoned to the ministry - that the issue was serious. The Cambodian minister demanded that the Thai government provide sufficient evidence to support the allegation.

Instead of giving details to back his statement, Wattanachai - like a cheap politician - shifted the blame to the media, saying he had never made such a comment and his words might have been misinterpreted.

"No foreigners are involved in the situation in the deep South," he told reporters when asked to respond to Hun Sen's reaction.

It is not abnormal for Thai leaders to put their foot in their mouths when trying to get off the hook, but it is abnormal for a general to claim the media misquoted him on the same issue twice within a brief period of time.

In fact, Thai authorities have kept a suspicious eye on the movements of Cambodian Muslims for a long time. Thai Immigration officials were instructed to block, or at least obstruct, Cambodian Muslims at the Poi Pet checkpoint into Thailand. Belongings have been searched and items such as medicines confiscated. In one case, monosodium glutamate was seized. Thai officials believe the southern militants use MSG to heal wounds.

Cambodia is home to some 200,000 Muslims, mostly ethnic Cham in Kompong Cham province. The Cham adopted Islam when the Champa kingdom traded with seafaring Persian merchants around the ninth century. When Vietnam defeated the Champa kingdom in the 14th century, the Cham population fled to Cambodia and assimilated with ethnic Malays who had made earlier contact with the Khmer kingdom. The Cham have spoken a Malay dialect since then. Many of them study Islam in Pattani.

Cambodian Muslims are no strangers to the deep South, as thousands of them have worked in the Pattani fisheries, as well as studied Islam there. But Thai security officials have been paranoid about them since the eruption of violence in the South at the beginning of 2004.

The root of this Thai paranoia lies in a Cambodian raid on a Saudi-financed school on the outskirts of Phnom Penh in 2003. The school was deemed a security threat and Phnom Penh expelled 28 foreign religious teachers and arrested three other teachers including two Thai Muslims.

Muhammad Yalaluding and Abdul Azi Haji Chiming, both from Yala province, received life sentences in December 2004 after being found guilty of helping JI plot a terrorist attack in Cambodia. They were arrested in the raid in May 2003 along with Egyptian, Esam Mohammed Khidr Ali, who was acquitted of the same charge due to lack of evidence.

However, the Cambodian allegation was not convincing. The raid on the school was staged for the then US secretary of state, Colin Powell, who was in Phnom Penh for an Asean meeting. There was no evidence to prove that Cambodian Muslims were a threat to any country. There was no record of their involvement in any violence.

Wattanachai's allegation has already put Thailand at risk of dispute with Cambodia. Diplomaticfallout with Phnom Penh is no fun at all: a single intentional or unintentional insult could cause chaos. The 2003 anti-Thai riot in Phnom Penh was a good example of that - and the lessons from it haven't been learned.

Supalak

Ganjanakhundee

The Nation


SOURCE

Take that wattanachai chaimuenwong! laugh.gif
Ream Bong
Lol in his face! biggthumpup.gif
Kambojiya
Religion is united in Cambodia, people are free to practice their religion. Although this is a strong point, i hope soon that our country will provide more freedom and rights to its citizens. Long live the brotherhood between Khmer Islam and Buddhism! Do not let violence occur in Cambodia, it will only destabilize us. We need peace to prosper!
507bro
i wonder why lao isn't involve we have muslim too i think
they don't want to blame malaysia cuz of the oils there
Nikkie_nid
QUOTE(Kambojiya @ Jun 14 2007, 04:29 AM) [snapback]3002492[/snapback]
Religion is united in Cambodia, people are free to practice their religion. Although this is a strong point, i hope soon that our country will provide more freedom and rights to its citizens. Long live the brotherhood between Khmer Islam and Buddhism! Do not let violence occur in Cambodia, it will only destabilize us. We need peace to prosper!


hey dont worry. I can tell from here that there is NO tension for the Khmer muslims. They receive supports from the government and i never heard bad news about Khmer muslim.

Anyway, sometimes Ordinary Khmer people (I mean other than Muslim Khmer) are abit afraid of Khmer muslims because of their-being (I hope you know what i mean), but, there is never been a conflict.
Point_Dexter
I wanted to make sure that the Chinese butcher scale didnt rip me off. I used a Cham man's scale in Psa Tmey to weigh pork and the man was like, "lun euy lun."

I tought I was gonna get my penis cut off, but he sat me down, and teach me why i shouldn't do that. That was my only experience with Cham people. They are nice people, but they pray too much, wake me up every morning with there loud mics.
Goombaking209
It gets more ridiculous by the publishing articles. They might as well apologize at the very least.
stephenchow
QUOTE(Kambojiya @ Jun 12 2007, 05:59 PM) [snapback]3000162[/snapback]
[url=http://www.bangkokpost.com/News/13Jun2007_news04.php]

link is not working, wonder if they delete it???
sbeechan
That's what happens when you're a pompous d!ckhead.
transtic
QUOTE(stephenchow @ Jun 15 2007, 06:31 AM) [snapback]3004339[/snapback]
link is not working, wonder if they delete it???

yea they must have. embarassedlaugh.gif too hot to handle
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