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iMumble
I just came back form the Philippines with my family me last week. And after going to so many malls and stores like SM, I wondered what would happen if Wal-Mart or Target decided to open a store in the Philippines somewhere. What would you think? I personally have mixed feelings about it, but do you think it would be a bad idea or good idea?
coloryoursoul
well in my opinion... filipinos would like it since it's a commodity that has US branding however we don't need it since malls like SM have the hypermarket which is similiar to a walmart or a target..
iMumble
Yeah but yet the SM and Wal Mart for say can compete, I'd like to see that happen.
Piso
sm has many competitors like robinsons, makro, waltermart etc
BatangDamo
Well, i'd rather have a new IKEA store in Pinas

Kung pagpipiliin between: target>wallmart
nanrisen
No way. Support our own malls and promote our own products.
iMumble
QUOTE(nanrisen @ Jul 21 2007, 07:44 PM) [snapback]3072481[/snapback]
No way. Support our own malls and promote our own products.


Well, they can sell Filipino goods in Wal Mart when they build it in Manila.
nanrisen
QUOTE(iMumble @ Jul 21 2007, 05:47 PM) [snapback]3072483[/snapback]
Well, they can sell Filipino goods in Wal Mart when they build it in Manila.


Yeah, buts thats just one store, why limit ourselves to that, when we have thousands of outlets that can support our products? Even though they are Tsinoy owned, they are the ones spearheading the buy Pinoy campaign. biggthumpup.gif
iMumble
Yeah but what if Wal Mart decides to put a Wal Mart in every filipino city, how would you feel? I mean that's waht's most likely gonna happen.
nanrisen
QUOTE(iMumble @ Jul 21 2007, 05:54 PM) [snapback]3072491[/snapback]
Yeah but what if Wal Mart decides to put a Wal Mart in every filipino city, how would you feel? I mean that's waht's most likely gonna happen.


Thats close to impossible since they will have to compete with all of the SM malls, etc. Besides theres so many places where Filipinos can buy things cheaper than the Wallmart price anyways. It would most likely happen if the Philippines were more than half middle class, since Walmart stores focus mainly on middle class families and individuals. But anytime soon? I don't think so.
Piso
if walmarts were in he phils, theyd have to illegaly immigrate mexicans too! lol
nanrisen
QUOTE(Piso @ Jul 21 2007, 06:03 PM) [snapback]3072506[/snapback]
if walmarts were in he phils, theyd have to illegaly immigrate mexicans too! lol


True embarassedlaugh.gif
iMumble
QUOTE(Piso @ Jul 21 2007, 08:03 PM) [snapback]3072506[/snapback]
if walmarts were in he phils, theyd have to illegaly immigrate mexicans too! lol


embarassedlaugh.gif Yeah riiiiight. They'd have to swim across the Pacific Ocean, which is impossible. I'm guessing they might give Filipinos who live in shanty towns the job.
nanrisen
QUOTE(iMumble @ Jul 21 2007, 06:13 PM) [snapback]3072520[/snapback]
embarassedlaugh.gif Yeah riiiiight. They'd have to swim across the Pacific Ocean, which is impossible. I'm guessing they might give Filipinos who live in shanty towns the job.


It was meant as a joke sure.gif
iMumble
QUOTE(nanrisen @ Jul 21 2007, 08:35 PM) [snapback]3072542[/snapback]
It was meant as a joke sure.gif


You obviously didn't see the laughing smilie icon.
nanrisen
QUOTE(iMumble @ Jul 21 2007, 06:46 PM) [snapback]3072559[/snapback]
You obviously didn't see the laughing smilie icon.


My bad biggthumpup.gif
sarilinglupa
bad idea. wal mart is the devil. better the evil we know ( sm ) than something (wal mart) we dont. walmart sells overpriced junk.
iMumble
Ah. besides, Wal Mart is kind of like the American counterpart of SM anyways. The best thing we can get out of a Wal mart in the Phils. is a great capitalist competition.
sarilinglupa
we should develop our own stuff, stores and the like. or steal it like china. lol.
iMumble
QUOTE(sarilinglupa @ Jul 21 2007, 10:59 PM) [snapback]3072767[/snapback]
we should develop our own stuff, stores and the like. or steal it like china. lol.


Nah. Let's not go there. Besides Jollibee is already globalizing.
woohpsie
I don't think it would take off. SM is already well established.
calliezhou
QUOTE(woohpsie @ Aug 30 2007, 08:42 AM) [snapback]3173424[/snapback]
I don't think it would take off. SM is already well established.



yeah, like it's already the national mall of the phils.
oops...it's for the other thread!

123Doy
QUOTE(BatangDamo @ Jun 26 2007, 08:47 AM) [snapback]3026257[/snapback]
Well, i'd rather have a new IKEA store in Pinas

Kung pagpipiliin between: target>wallmart


ME LOVE IKEA!!!!!! Anyways, having walmart in teh philippines.. hmm I'd think about that.
lk4t3smoke
LOL.. walmart would be kinda useless because of our malls..
sitataymo
QUOTE(nanrisen @ Jul 21 2007, 07:52 PM) [snapback]3072488[/snapback]
Yeah, buts thats just one store, why limit ourselves to that, when we have thousands of outlets that can support our products? Even though they are Tsinoy owned, they are the ones spearheading the buy Pinoy campaign. biggthumpup.gif

The Chinoys are geniuses at marketing and they take every opportunity to use that advantage to expand their businesses. Much of the stuff they sell or distribute at the lower priced malls took less effort to make than it is for the Philippine government to print a 25 centavo coin.
Having said that, we all know that much of the stuff that they sell from mall 168 in Divisoria to drugs at your local corner drugstore are inexpensive and counterfeit. How many times have you bought pasalubong like Oakleys or DVDs to bring back for friends that gave you a shopping list to buy at a really discounted shop only to get it confiscated at the airport by the custom agents once you enter the US? You know that it's fake and they know that before they even asked you if you know that it's fake. So what are you going to say?
The originators of these fake goods seldom use their fake goods because they've amassed enough money to buy the high end goods for themselves. Just look at the cars they drive, clothes they wear and cell phones they use. I don't think its counterfeit, do you?
If you look at the mainland Chinese goods coming out of China, you'd see that they are making alot of money by pissing big companies off with their blatant copyright violations.
From Disney:
http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=1678

To cars:
http://www.cbiz.cn/news/showarticle.asp?id=1873

http://www.panasianbiz.com/2006/04/introdu..._cars_cher.html

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/fiat...ll-ar17704.html

To medicine:
http://www.consumerist.com/consumer/diethy...tory-258113.php

http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/434180...source=r_health

and everything under the sun:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/60782/print/

http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/cont...mics+%2B+policy

What i'm trying to emphasize is that we need to get that mentality of cheaper is better because we need quality. We need to expose ourselves to better made goods. We need to learn that it should be for the long run and not for the here and now way of thinking. Bring that Wal Mart, bring all those companies that will show us that there is a better choice. We as consumers, and there are over 168 million Pinoys in Philippines, will patronize stores that sell goods that will last; goods that fit our needs.

Anyone reading this will probably think that i'm anti-Chinoy, which is far from the truth. The only thing i don't like is when hard earned money is wasted for the quick cash of having sold junk in our country. The Philippines is a third world, which we all know, but having that reinforced by keeping inferior counterfeit goods in our stores keeps that reputation strong which in turn gives the Philippines a really bad reputation (as if we need one).
Let me say again that i'm not anti-Chinoy. The successful businesses are runned by Chinoys but at the same time, the struggle that was made to get to the top shouldn't be to rip off the other guy to pass the savings on to the next guy.
lk4t3smoke
QUOTE(sitataymo @ Aug 31 2007, 05:57 AM) [snapback]3176972[/snapback]
What i'm trying to emphasize is that we need to get that mentality of cheaper is better because we need quality. We need to expose ourselves to better made goods. We need to learn that it should be for the long run and not for the here and now way of thinking. Bring that Wal Mart, bring all those companies that will show us that there is a better choice. We as consumers, and there are over 168 million Pinoys in Philippines, will patronize stores that sell goods that will last; goods that fit our needs.

Anyone reading this will probably think that i'm anti-Chinoy, which is far from the truth. The only thing i don't like is when hard earned money is wasted for the quick cash of having sold junk in our country. The Philippines is a third world, which we all know, but having that reinforced by keeping inferior counterfeit goods in our stores keeps that reputation strong which in turn gives the Philippines a really bad reputation (as if we need one).
Let me say again that i'm not anti-Chinoy. The successful businesses are runned by Chinoys but at the same time, the struggle that was made to get to the top shouldn't be to rip off the other guy to pass the savings on to the next guy.


i still think that walmart is useless in the philippines.. if you're saying that ppl will love the original goods first just because they're original then you're wrong.. ppl in ebay bid on counterfeit stuff all the time just because they can't afford the original. original goods could be way too expensive for the average filipino person that's living in philippines right now.
sitataymo
QUOTE(lk4t3smoke @ Aug 31 2007, 08:06 AM) [snapback]3177138[/snapback]
i still think that walmart is useless in the philippines.. if you're saying that ppl will love the original goods first just because they're original then you're wrong.. ppl in ebay bid on counterfeit stuff all the time just because they can't afford the original. original goods could be way too expensive for the average filipino person that's living in philippines right now.

Just because you disagree with me doesn't mean that i'm wrong. What's wrong is you judging me before you even have anything to prove that Wal Mart in Philippines won't do good. Look around you and you'll see businesse like Ace Hardware, Mcdonald's, Mitsubishis among others. Do you see those things being passed off? People here should deserve everything that their hard earned money can buy.
Filipinos love US movies and music. Filipinos love to eat foods that are different from our own. Filipinos love to dress up in the latest trends. Filipinos love clothes that give them notice and prefer to have the latest gadgets. Would you buy these things if you knew that they would break in a few days or weeks? Would you watch a pirated movie that has frozen frames? Would you spend less money to eat knowing that you risk eating something that you didn't pay for?
My point is that we should have quality for everything that we save for and nothing less.
bubblybootz
hmmm... i dont really care.. will the goods be cheaper than in the u.s.??
sitataymo
QUOTE(bubblybootz @ Sep 5 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]3188812[/snapback]
hmmm... i dont really care.. will the goods be cheaper than in the u.s.??

It's that kind of attitude that keeps our drugstores full of fake drugs, keeps our markets full of spoiled meat, keeps our country in a third world state with a reputation of having a demand for second or third rate things that keeps the country full of disposed items and trash that was just bought a few days ago.
If that's your attitude, then let me sell you some of my junk, i'm sure you'll like the price. It's located at Smokey Mountain, just follow the smell.
iMumble
Ah. Yes Wal Mart in the Philippines can also cause controversies a little bit, more like putting all those small Filipino mom and pop shops out of business, I mean probably in most Filipino cities the only stores would be SM's and Wal Marts.
bubblybootz
QUOTE(sitataymo @ Sep 5 2007, 06:42 PM) [snapback]3189394[/snapback]
It's that kind of attitude that keeps our drugstores full of fake drugs, keeps our markets full of spoiled meat, keeps our country in a third world state with a reputation of having a demand for second or third rate things that keeps the country full of disposed items and trash that was just bought a few days ago.
If that's your attitude, then let me sell you some of my junk, i'm sure you'll like the price. It's located at Smokey Mountain, just follow the smell.




um i didnt mean it like that..... and i didnt mean i would only buy if its cheaper.. only becuz i know 1 dollar is worth a lil more in the philippines... im not hating on it what so ever... i was just curious because i know the some of the prices are different.. u make it sound like im putting it down... im sorry.. didnt mean to make it sound like that... and when i sed i dont really care<that means its not like walmart is the only place for ppl to shop there r other places... if they make a walmart... good ill shop there... if they dont make a walmart its ok i can try to look somewhere else to shop....

regarding it for jobs... i thinks it good becuz it can get ppl some jobs... its just my opinion..
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