1.) Koreans don't own Korea. They rent the land in Korea from a.) US (south Korea) and b.) China (north Korea) Korean population is too small to thrwat huge superpowers like US and China.
2.) North Korea is the way it is because China needs a buffer state against US encroachment. Very simple, similar to satellite nations of USSR during cold war.
3.) North Korea is a meaningless country, even with 100 nuclear weapons with capabilities to deliever them to the US or anywhere else it means squat. US Aegis missile defense and other counter measures can easily knock out outdated NK missiles.
4.) South Korea would have invaded and squashed North Korea a long time ago, since it's potential/capabilties to make war is about 50 times the ability of the North. I base this on the GDP of both countries, and hence each country's capacity to produce high tech weaponry, munitions etc.
5.) In conclusion, South Korea must grow richer and make deal with China before eventual collapse of North Korea Jong Il regime. But the main objective before South Korea can do anything is MUST REMOVE US PRECENSE IN SOUTH KOREA, for the sake of the US and SK. But US will never allow this, because they need toehold on mainland Asia and against major advesary, China. Sorry Korea in all cases is f**ked.
Full Version: Koreans need to understand geopolitics
And you need to understand geopolitics in SE Asia does not revolve around China.
^ Korea is considered NE Asia.
QUOTE(Hinomaru @ Jun 30 2007, 12:14 PM) [snapback]3033791[/snapback]
1.) Koreans don't own Korea. They rent the land in Korea from a.) US (south Korea) and b.) China (north Korea) Korean population is too small to thrwat huge superpowers like US and China.
4.) South Korea would have invaded and squashed North Korea a long time ago, since it's potential/capabilties to make war is about 50 times the ability of the North. I base this on the GDP of both countries, and hence each country's capacity to produce high tech weaponry, munitions etc.
4.) South Korea would have invaded and squashed North Korea a long time ago, since it's potential/capabilties to make war is about 50 times the ability of the North. I base this on the GDP of both countries, and hence each country's capacity to produce high tech weaponry, munitions etc.
#1 and #4 are contradictory.
china is ne asia? isn't china se asia?
The PRC is both I guess...
Koreans rent land from China and US 
NATO and friends scheme China's destruction.
Hinomaru is a troll.Else, he must be a narrow-minded retard with a IQ of 90 or less. Both ways, its safe to ignore him.
Hinomaru is obviously a troll, he first started thread "Chinese quantity over quality" bashing China and admitted that He is Japanese and now he comes over here to diss korean people. So lame.
QUOTE(Hinomaru @ Jun 30 2007, 01:14 PM) [snapback]3033791[/snapback]
1.) Koreans don't own Korea. They rent the land in Korea from a.) US (south Korea) and b.) China (north Korea) Korean population is too small to thrwat huge superpowers like US and China.
2.) North Korea is the way it is because China needs a buffer state against US encroachment. Very simple, similar to satellite nations of USSR during cold war.
3.) North Korea is a meaningless country, even with 100 nuclear weapons with capabilities to deliever them to the US or anywhere else it means squat. US Aegis missile defense and other counter measures can easily knock out outdated NK missiles.
4.) South Korea would have invaded and squashed North Korea a long time ago, since it's potential/capabilties to make war is about 50 times the ability of the North. I base this on the GDP of both countries, and hence each country's capacity to produce high tech weaponry, munitions etc.
5.) In conclusion, South Korea must grow richer and make deal with China before eventual collapse of North Korea Jong Il regime. But the main objective before South Korea can do anything is MUST REMOVE US PRECENSE IN SOUTH KOREA, for the sake of the US and SK. But US will never allow this, because they need toehold on mainland Asia and against major advesary, China. Sorry Korea in all cases is f**ked.
2.) North Korea is the way it is because China needs a buffer state against US encroachment. Very simple, similar to satellite nations of USSR during cold war.
3.) North Korea is a meaningless country, even with 100 nuclear weapons with capabilities to deliever them to the US or anywhere else it means squat. US Aegis missile defense and other counter measures can easily knock out outdated NK missiles.
4.) South Korea would have invaded and squashed North Korea a long time ago, since it's potential/capabilties to make war is about 50 times the ability of the North. I base this on the GDP of both countries, and hence each country's capacity to produce high tech weaponry, munitions etc.
5.) In conclusion, South Korea must grow richer and make deal with China before eventual collapse of North Korea Jong Il regime. But the main objective before South Korea can do anything is MUST REMOVE US PRECENSE IN SOUTH KOREA, for the sake of the US and SK. But US will never allow this, because they need toehold on mainland Asia and against major advesary, China. Sorry Korea in all cases is f**ked.
before you make any more thread, go take some writing courses
He's probably not even Japanese. Just a wanna be... 
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Human rights groups hail U.S. vote on 'comfort women' resolution
Wednesday, June 27, 2007 at 06:59 EDT
WASHINGTON — Human rights groups on Tuesday welcomed the passage by a U.S. House of Representatives committee of a resolution seeking an apology from Japan for the sexual exploitation of Asian women by the Japanese military during World War II.
The nonbinding resolution was approved by 39-2. Rep. Michael Honda, a California Democrat of Japanese descent, and some Republicans submitted in January the resolution about the women, known euphemistically in Japan as "comfort women."
"What they said today in their vote was that, yes, there were victims, there were women who were used as sex slaves, yes, there was a systematic military program that captured, coerced women and girls to be used as sex slaves," Honda told reporters after the passage of the resolution.
"It is time that the Japanese government approach and acknowledge, take full responsibility and apologize in an unambiguous, formal way," he said.
The global human rights watchdog Amnesty International applauded the vote and urged the House as a whole to pass the measure.
In a statement, the group called the pressing of women into sexual servitude by the Japanese imperial army "crimes against humanity."
"Amnesty International urges nations across the world to follow the U.S. Congress's lead and put pressure on the Japanese government to ensure that survivors receive full reparation including restitution, compensation and rehabilitation," T Kumar, Amnesty International USA advocacy director for Asia and the Pacific, said in the statement.
The 121 Coalition, an umbrella group for organizations who support reparations for victims, welcomed the vote and called on House leaders to schedule a full vote on the resolution as soon as possible.
Passage of the resolution "will send an important message to the government of Japan that the remaining comfort women survivors deserve justice and the restoration of their fundamental dignity," the coalition said in a statement.
Rights groups have pressed the Japanese government to act quickly on the issue, pointing to the advanced age and dwindling numbers of women who were forced to work in the military-run brothels during the 1930s and World War II.
A separate coalition comprised of women's rights and humanitarian groups cited the need for urgency in a statement lauding Tuesday's vote.
"The Japanese government must apologize and make reparations when there are 'comfort women' victims still here with us today," the statement said.
That coalition also called on Japan to teach future generations about the comfort women issue in order to prevent a "war crime like this" from happening again.
Sponsors of the measure are hopeful the bill will pass a vote in the full House, which unlike during previous attempts to pass similar legislation, is now under the control of Democrats.
The measure has the support of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who called Tuesday's vote "a strong statement in support of human rights."
"I look forward to the House of Representatives passing this resolution and sending a strong message that we will not forget the horrors endured by the comfort women," Pelosi said in a statement.
The measure has garnered strong support among both Democrats and Republicans, despite the repeated insistence by Tokyo that the issue has been sufficiently addressed and a warning by Japanese Ambassador to the United States Ryozo Kato that passing the resolution would harm U.S.-Japan ties.
Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has previously offered an apology for the suffering endured by the women. He has also repeated that he stands by a 1993 official statement acknowledging and apologizing over the matter.
Abe came under fire earlier this year when he appeared to doubt the Japanese military's use of coercion in recruiting women to work in the brothels, although he later expressed regret about misunderstandings over his remarks and reiterated his sympathy for the victims.
The Bush administration has taken a noncommittal stance on the resolution, calling it a matter for Congress to decide. During a visit by Abe to the United States in April, Bush called the comfort women issue "a regrettable chapter in the history of the world" but said he accepted Abe's apology.
Now that the committee has voted in favor of the resolution, attention has shifted to whether it will be put to a vote on the full floor of the House, with Honda being upbeat on the resolution's passage through the full chamber soon.
"This resolution will go to the floor as a whole, and it'll probably be done the second or third week of July, hopefully," he told reporters, adding that given the 39-2 vote, the resolution "will have a good chance of being passed."
The resolution drew about 140 co-sponsors from both Democratic and Republican parties, which urges the Japanese prime minister to "formally acknowledge, apologize and accept historical responsibility in a clear and unequivocal manner" for the sexual mistreatment of the former comfort women.
"It is a resolution that seeks admission of a horrible truth in order that this horror may never be perpetrated again," said Tom Lantos, chairman of the committee.
Its passage followed deliberations on proposed changes in wording to somewhat soften the demand for an apology and also added a line to note the importance of Japan-U.S. relations. The changes were proposed by Lantos and ranking member Ileana Ros-Lehitinen.
Similar resolutions have been submitted to Congress four times. The last resolution won committee-level approval last September, but a full vote by the lower chamber was blocked by the then majority Republican Party.
http://www.japantoday.com/jp/news/410607
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Human rights groups hail U.S. vote on 'comfort women' resolution
Wednesday, June 27, 2007 at 06:59 EDT
WASHINGTON — Human rights groups on Tuesday welcomed the passage by a U.S. House of Representatives committee of a resolution seeking an apology from Japan for the sexual exploitation of Asian women by the Japanese military during World War II.
The nonbinding resolution was approved by 39-2. Rep. Michael Honda, a California Democrat of Japanese descent, and some Republicans submitted in January the resolution about the women, known euphemistically in Japan as "comfort women."
"What they said today in their vote was that, yes, there were victims, there were women who were used as sex slaves, yes, there was a systematic military program that captured, coerced women and girls to be used as sex slaves," Honda told reporters after the passage of the resolution.
"It is time that the Japanese government approach and acknowledge, take full responsibility and apologize in an unambiguous, formal way," he said.
The global human rights watchdog Amnesty International applauded the vote and urged the House as a whole to pass the measure.
In a statement, the group called the pressing of women into sexual servitude by the Japanese imperial army "crimes against humanity."
"Amnesty International urges nations across the world to follow the U.S. Congress's lead and put pressure on the Japanese government to ensure that survivors receive full reparation including restitution, compensation and rehabilitation," T Kumar, Amnesty International USA advocacy director for Asia and the Pacific, said in the statement.
The 121 Coalition, an umbrella group for organizations who support reparations for victims, welcomed the vote and called on House leaders to schedule a full vote on the resolution as soon as possible.
Passage of the resolution "will send an important message to the government of Japan that the remaining comfort women survivors deserve justice and the restoration of their fundamental dignity," the coalition said in a statement.
Rights groups have pressed the Japanese government to act quickly on the issue, pointing to the advanced age and dwindling numbers of women who were forced to work in the military-run brothels during the 1930s and World War II.
A separate coalition comprised of women's rights and humanitarian groups cited the need for urgency in a statement lauding Tuesday's vote.
"The Japanese government must apologize and make reparations when there are 'comfort women' victims still here with us today," the statement said.
That coalition also called on Japan to teach future generations about the comfort women issue in order to prevent a "war crime like this" from happening again.
Sponsors of the measure are hopeful the bill will pass a vote in the full House, which unlike during previous attempts to pass similar legislation, is now under the control of Democrats.
The measure has the support of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who called Tuesday's vote "a strong statement in support of human rights."
"I look forward to the House of Representatives passing this resolution and sending a strong message that we will not forget the horrors endured by the comfort women," Pelosi said in a statement.
The measure has garnered strong support among both Democrats and Republicans, despite the repeated insistence by Tokyo that the issue has been sufficiently addressed and a warning by Japanese Ambassador to the United States Ryozo Kato that passing the resolution would harm U.S.-Japan ties.
Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has previously offered an apology for the suffering endured by the women. He has also repeated that he stands by a 1993 official statement acknowledging and apologizing over the matter.
Abe came under fire earlier this year when he appeared to doubt the Japanese military's use of coercion in recruiting women to work in the brothels, although he later expressed regret about misunderstandings over his remarks and reiterated his sympathy for the victims.
The Bush administration has taken a noncommittal stance on the resolution, calling it a matter for Congress to decide. During a visit by Abe to the United States in April, Bush called the comfort women issue "a regrettable chapter in the history of the world" but said he accepted Abe's apology.
Now that the committee has voted in favor of the resolution, attention has shifted to whether it will be put to a vote on the full floor of the House, with Honda being upbeat on the resolution's passage through the full chamber soon.
"This resolution will go to the floor as a whole, and it'll probably be done the second or third week of July, hopefully," he told reporters, adding that given the 39-2 vote, the resolution "will have a good chance of being passed."
The resolution drew about 140 co-sponsors from both Democratic and Republican parties, which urges the Japanese prime minister to "formally acknowledge, apologize and accept historical responsibility in a clear and unequivocal manner" for the sexual mistreatment of the former comfort women.
"It is a resolution that seeks admission of a horrible truth in order that this horror may never be perpetrated again," said Tom Lantos, chairman of the committee.
Its passage followed deliberations on proposed changes in wording to somewhat soften the demand for an apology and also added a line to note the importance of Japan-U.S. relations. The changes were proposed by Lantos and ranking member Ileana Ros-Lehitinen.
Similar resolutions have been submitted to Congress four times. The last resolution won committee-level approval last September, but a full vote by the lower chamber was blocked by the then majority Republican Party.
http://www.japantoday.com/jp/news/410607
QUOTE(Kay Dis Nine @ Jul 1 2007, 08:49 AM) [snapback]3034413[/snapback]
NATO and friends scheme China's destruction.
Asian NATO only know how to destruct itself
QUOTE(Hinomaru @ Jun 30 2007, 12:14 PM) [snapback]3033791[/snapback]
1.) Koreans don't own Korea. They rent the land in Korea from a.) US (south Korea) and b.) China (north Korea) Korean population is too small to thrwat huge superpowers like US and China.
Koreans don't own their own land?
QUOTE(Kono10 @ Jul 25 2007, 09:20 AM) [snapback]3077738[/snapback]
Koreans don't own their own land?
According to the Japanese, he thinks the Korean peninsula belongs to the Chinese and the Americans,,
QUOTE(jebusrocks @ Jul 26 2007, 12:27 AM) [snapback]3079314[/snapback]
According to the Japanese, he thinks the Korean peninsula belongs to the Chinese and the Americans,,
He does have a point. North Korea is dependent on China, while South Korea is dependent on US. US practically controls South Korea, so maybe that's what he means.
QUOTE(Kono10 @ Jul 25 2007, 11:01 PM) [snapback]3079401[/snapback]
He does have a point. North Korea is dependent on China, while South Korea is dependent on US. US practically controls South Korea, so maybe that's what he means.
S. Korea maybe dependent on US a lot, but how do they practically control us?? We are to US as Japan is to US, and we are both NOT "practically controlled" by the US
I guess that means US also controls Japan, Germany, and Iraq.
Koreans fu-king own korea , end of story. Now everyone who isnt korean, shut the fu-k up.
QUOTE(Hinomaru @ Jun 30 2007, 12:14 PM) [snapback]3033791[/snapback]
1.) Koreans don't own Korea. They rent the land in Korea from a.) US (south Korea) and b.) China (north Korea) Korean population is too small to thrwat huge superpowers like US and China.
2.) North Korea is the way it is because China needs a buffer state against US encroachment. Very simple, similar to satellite nations of USSR during cold war.
3.) North Korea is a meaningless country, even with 100 nuclear weapons with capabilities to deliever them to the US or anywhere else it means squat. US Aegis missile defense and other counter measures can easily knock out outdated NK missiles.
4.) South Korea would have invaded and squashed North Korea a long time ago, since it's potential/capabilties to make war is about 50 times the ability of the North. I base this on the GDP of both countries, and hence each country's capacity to produce high tech weaponry, munitions etc.
5.) In conclusion, South Korea must grow richer and make deal with China before eventual collapse of North Korea Jong Il regime. But the main objective before South Korea can do anything is MUST REMOVE US PRECENSE IN SOUTH KOREA, for the sake of the US and SK. But US will never allow this, because they need toehold on mainland Asia and against major advesary, China. Sorry Korea in all cases is f**ked.
2.) North Korea is the way it is because China needs a buffer state against US encroachment. Very simple, similar to satellite nations of USSR during cold war.
3.) North Korea is a meaningless country, even with 100 nuclear weapons with capabilities to deliever them to the US or anywhere else it means squat. US Aegis missile defense and other counter measures can easily knock out outdated NK missiles.
4.) South Korea would have invaded and squashed North Korea a long time ago, since it's potential/capabilties to make war is about 50 times the ability of the North. I base this on the GDP of both countries, and hence each country's capacity to produce high tech weaponry, munitions etc.
5.) In conclusion, South Korea must grow richer and make deal with China before eventual collapse of North Korea Jong Il regime. But the main objective before South Korea can do anything is MUST REMOVE US PRECENSE IN SOUTH KOREA, for the sake of the US and SK. But US will never allow this, because they need toehold on mainland Asia and against major advesary, China. Sorry Korea in all cases is f**ked.
Horse$hit.
Go back to your cave.
QUOTE(Kono10 @ Jul 26 2007, 02:01 AM) [snapback]3079401[/snapback]
He does have a point. North Korea is dependent on China, while South Korea is dependent on US. US practically controls South Korea, so maybe that's what he means.
Which is why we got the edge on the FTA agreement? Its also why they are leaving after we ask them, even though we're obviously not ready to handle logistics?
Dont confuse us with Japan. Japan is US's b!tch not us.
Last time I checked North Korea launched nuclear tests against Chinese wishes so I dont think so.
Go back to Japan or China where ever your nasty momma made your @$$.
QUOTE(jebusrocks @ Jul 26 2007, 02:07 AM) [snapback]3079418[/snapback]
S. Korea maybe dependent on US a lot, but how do they practically control us?? We are to US as Japan is to US, and we are both NOT "practically controlled" by the US
there certainly aren't any korean or japanese military bases on US soil,
in fact, there aren't ANY alien troops on US soil
QUOTE(waeg@@k @ Jul 26 2007, 12:21 PM) [snapback]3080595[/snapback]
Horse$hit.
Go back to your cave.
Go back to your cave.
Guys this Hinomaru gay is Chinese dude, probadly from Taiwan, which is rogue Chinese state who modelled Japan but their ancestors from China. What a bunch of confused ppl.
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there certainly aren't any korean or japanese military bases on US soil,
in fact, there aren't ANY alien troops on US soil
in fact, there aren't ANY alien troops on US soil
Another reason to have relations restored from paternalistic U.S to normal ASAP.
QUOTE(moobie @ Aug 12 2007, 11:58 PM) [snapback]3129933[/snapback]
Another reason to have relations restored from paternalistic U.S to normal ASAP.
but what if the north attacks again?
QUOTE(bangaroo @ Aug 10 2007, 03:20 AM) [snapback]3122772[/snapback]
Guys this Hinomaru gay is Chinese dude, probadly from Taiwan, which is rogue Chinese state who modelled Japan but their ancestors from China. What a bunch of confused ppl.
dont bring taiwan into this for no reason
faggot
QUOTE(Bilbo @ Aug 15 2007, 03:00 AM) [snapback]3136192[/snapback]
dont bring taiwan into this for no reason
faggot
faggot
taiwan's a fu-king joke stfu
south korea has been in the middle of big powers for a ver long time, its surrounded by Russia(north), China(west), Japan(South East).
The only solution for SK is to grow richer, while remaining safe under America's protection.
The only solution for SK is to grow richer, while remaining safe under America's protection.
QUOTE(Bilbo @ Aug 15 2007, 03:00 AM) [snapback]3136192[/snapback]
dont bring taiwan into this for no reason
faggot
faggot
R u from taiwan?
Isn't maniland Chinese hate Taiwanese?
No, they don't hate Taiwanese and Taiwanese don't hate Mainlanders unless they're DPP assclowns
QUOTE(Kay Dis Nine @ Jun 30 2007, 07:49 PM) [snapback]3034413[/snapback]
NATO and friends scheme China's destruction.
And China is scheming Korea's destruction. Becareful, you tiny Korea.
QUOTE(SundayFun @ Sep 4 2007, 08:04 AM) [snapback]3186189[/snapback]
And China is scheming Korea's destruction. Becareful, you tiny Korea.
whatever, dirty china
QUOTE(kaizen @ Sep 4 2007, 10:08 AM) [snapback]3186326[/snapback]
whatever, dirty china
Have you look at the photos of Korea 25 to 30 years ago. You dirty Koreans.
China is catching fast. Don't be scared.
QUOTE(SundayFun @ Sep 4 2007, 11:45 AM) [snapback]3186367[/snapback]
Have you look at the photos of Korea 25 to 30 years ago. You diry Koreans.
China is catching fast. Don't be scared.
whatever you dirty chinaman say China is catching fast. Don't be scared.
QUOTE(kaizen @ Sep 4 2007, 10:46 AM) [snapback]3186369[/snapback]
whatever you dirty chinaman say
You are nothing but a Kimchu eating filthy Sh*t.
Koreans are the only ones in the world who will let the amercians f and rap their daughters, sisters and mothers and don't do $hit about it.
Koreans are such cowards. Look at the middle east people. They are not afraid of the Americnans.
You Koreans are so afraid. You are a coward, you Kimchu eating little boy.
Only Koreans are so shameful but feels good about themselves because they have a little money in their pocket.
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