Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: Japan's interest in English
Asia Finest Discussion Forum > Asian Culture > Japanese Chat
simplybex
Do Japanese people love to learn English?
helo4
They only care about becoming functional in it, not completely fluent.

Seriously, have you ever heard a Japanese person who learned english later on in life speak it 100% correctly? It seems like the only Japanese people who are fluent in english are those who had it as their native tongue, like Utada Hikaru.

It's funny how the Japanese get so bothered when foreigners speak japanese without a perfect Japanese accent, but they don't even attempt to use a clear American accent when speaking english.
hideki
I don't know how relevant this is, but this English learning game for the DS is the seventh best-selling game (for the DS) in Japan. Seems at least some people are making an effort to improve their English...
ssjasper2003
I wonder if america will release any foreign language games.

Sorry if they already did, only console I have is an snes & the original ps.
splur
It's the same interest in any non-English country. English is a global language, it's a necessity to at least look like you can speak it.
joushipro
If their educational system made some drastic improvements, they wouldn't HAVE to be obsessed with learning English. All Japanese kids get 6 years of English teaching and they can't even introduce themselves. Six YEARS!! Many people can become completely fluent in that time. But the system just stresses rote memorization and don't actually teach them...
splur
It's because the English taught there isn't immersion. It's impossible to learn a language with only 1-2 hours a day, and I think I'm over-exaggerating with that time already. Here in Canada, I've gone through 9 years of core French, not immersion, and I can't even form my own sentences in French. But an immersion of English in Japanese education would mean a loss in the Japanese language. So it'd never happen.
rizzacusi
yeh..i teach english to some of them
cao_ni_mao
they love to learn Bukkake
joushipro
QUOTE(splur @ Jul 4 2007, 08:14 PM) [snapback]3040429[/snapback]
It's because the English taught there isn't immersion. It's impossible to learn a language with only 1-2 hours a day, and I think I'm over-exaggerating with that time already. Here in Canada, I've gone through 9 years of core French, not immersion, and I can't even form my own sentences in French. But an immersion of English in Japanese education would mean a loss in the Japanese language. So it'd never happen.


I dunno about that. There are methods better than what they use. In fact ANYTHING would be better than what they use. What they do basically is read and repeat, and memorize long lists of vocabulary. The classes are taught in Japanese, most of the time by a Japanese person who can't speak English. In my high school Japanese language program, I studied for three years at 50 minutes a day.. we learned grammar, vocab, read stories, did embarassing role play situations, watched movies, etc.. And the class was taught in Japanese, and the teacher was Japanese. Of course I was by no means fluent at that point, but I could form my own sentences and fight through conversations when I went. Compare this to Japanese people who study for 6 years and can't even say something as simple as "excuse me" properly.

I'm not saying it's necessary to use immersion, just an improvement in the teaching methods. That's wasting an awful lot of their lives with old and proven bad teaching. At LEAST teach them enough so they can order at a restaurant in English when they go overseas.
bigboy
QUOTE(cao_ni_mao @ Jul 4 2007, 06:00 AM) [snapback]3040509[/snapback]
they love to learn Bukkake


thats a great language.

havent met anybody who actually speaks it yet.
Balot
QUOTE(cao_ni_mao @ Jul 4 2007, 08:00 AM) [snapback]3040509[/snapback]
they love to learn Bukkake



LOL... i thought bukkake is a porn movie? embarassedlaugh.gif
splur
QUOTE(joushipro @ Jul 4 2007, 11:45 PM) [snapback]3041478[/snapback]
I dunno about that. There are methods better than what they use. In fact ANYTHING would be better than what they use. What they do basically is read and repeat, and memorize long lists of vocabulary. The classes are taught in Japanese, most of the time by a Japanese person who can't speak English. In my high school Japanese language program, I studied for three years at 50 minutes a day.. we learned grammar, vocab, read stories, did embarassing role play situations, watched movies, etc.. And the class was taught in Japanese, and the teacher was Japanese. Of course I was by no means fluent at that point, but I could form my own sentences and fight through conversations when I went. Compare this to Japanese people who study for 6 years and can't even say something as simple as "excuse me" properly.

I'm not saying it's necessary to use immersion, just an improvement in the teaching methods. That's wasting an awful lot of their lives with old and proven bad teaching. At LEAST teach them enough so they can order at a restaurant in English when they go overseas.

Ya true, I'm not sure how they teach it there. Languages are hard when the students aren't keen on it. All I know is the core French here completely sucks. I can form my own sentences, by all means, but I can't say anything complicated nor ask questions. That's pretty bad for 9 years of it. But the thing is I never wanted to learn French. So the Japanese aren't alone.

It's also really hard when you don't need to apply any English in Japan. Surprisingly right? You'd expect so from a country like Japan, but when I went, there was no actual English anywhere. They'd play western music, wear clothing with English on it, but they wouldn't understand a word of it.
joushipro
QUOTE(splur @ Jul 5 2007, 09:12 PM) [snapback]3042041[/snapback]
It's also really hard when you don't need to apply any English in Japan. Surprisingly right? You'd expect so from a country like Japan, but when I went, there was no actual English anywhere. They'd play western music, wear clothing with English on it, but they wouldn't understand a word of it.


Yeah, they "need" English for their entrance exams, and that's how it's taught, to regurgitate vocabulary for the tests, which you forget immediately after. Their whole education system is really depressing to me, but I guess that's just cuz I was brought up in a liberal arts open-minded teaching environment (aka most of America). We're taught to form our own opinions and think, Japanese people are taught to memorize, repeat the info for a test somewhere, and forget, with an idealized view that Japan can do no wrong (especially in history). So a lot of them are pretty damn shallow and oblivious to world issues, and think they live in a superior race. I got into an argument with someone the other day (Japanese male in his 30s) that said "Japanese people don't rape anyone, it's an American idea. The only people that rape are non-Japanese, or Japanese people that got the idea from America." WHAT!? When I brought up the comfort women used as sex slaves in history, he denied that it existed, or said that the girls did it willingly. icon_confused.gif

You had to learn French for 9 years when you didn't want to? That's crappy x_X I had to study French for three years, but only those three years were required.
jiggyiggy
I cheated my way through high school spanish.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2009 Invision Power Services, Inc.