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They're really good in cooking fish and seafood....

They are quite attached to their religion. Well of course most are Christians of one denomination or another and therefore devout Christians, but those converted to another religion show similar zeal to their new religion in degrees that I think uncommon in other ethnicities, although it doesn't seem to weaken their liking of parties and social occasions.
Marriage to Minahasans is somewhat common in my extended family while I live in multiethnic setting of big cities so I think I have here a somewhat solid observation

never heard of it.

- Could easily mistaken with Chinese, well not all of them, but yeah, it's a common thing to mistaken them with Chinese-Indonesians.

- Just like the Bataks, they have a very interesting diet compared to other Indonesians (dog meat, cat meat, bat meat, etc).

- Hot babes!

Minahasan ethnic...

i heard they have slanted eyes like the chinese.
the word Minahasan looked like Minangkabau..

dont know which part of indonesia they are from..

can show me some actresses who are Minahasan?

That's Furan's jurisdictions.....
She's the queen of Indonesian entertainment industry......

Btw, Manado good food spot: Warung Kak Paula, a tent restaurant in front of Arcadia Hotel, Jl Kyai Haji Wahid Hasyim, beyond Sarinah Thamrin, Jakarta.
Reporters (especially from sport section) from my office frequently visit this warung.

^^because of the food or because of Kak Paula?

wow a minahasan thread.


I myself is a minahasan or manadonese...

I would say we're family oriented, we like to socialize (party)

alot of the older minahasan still speaks dutch

umm what else, we love spicy food

Both.....
Kak Paula is very friendly and nice lady btw....

Oh yeah for muslim don't worry about the food, this warung only focused on serving seafood like various fish and squid...., which is halal.
In the past she serve non-halal foodstuff too like pork and even bats (paniki), but since majority of her customer is muslim, she didn't serve that anymore (which is enfuriates my catholic and christian friends who loves bat and pork..... ).

Are you sure bat is not halal? This is news to me. Cause I did eat paniki in a Menado warung in Panglima Polim and thought the meat was just okay.

Yeah, I used to mix them up.



AYAM RICA RICA!!!!



Bat not halal?? Damn it, I forgot the list of non-halal food....!!!!!!!!!!

-One thing I know is they say kadera for chair just like in Makassarese and and they sound like Makassarese when they speak Indonesian with their accent.
-Although it's true that they usually have light skin, I know several dark-skinned Minahasan.

Question, are the Gorontalo people also Minahasan or are they two different groups. I know there's the religion difference, but does the term Minahasan still covers both people?

History of Minahasa/manado

The Dutch helped unite the linguistically diverse Minahasa confederacy, and in 1693 the Minahasa scored a decisive military victory against the Bolaang to the south. The Dutch influence flourished as the Minahasans embraced the European goods and Christian religion. Missionary schools in Manado in 1881 were among the first attempts at mass education in Indonesia, giving their graduates a considerable edge in gaining civil service, military and other positions of influence.

At 95 per cent of the population, the Minahasa Regency has one of highest proportions of Christian in Indonesia. It has the highest density of church buildings in Indonesia, with approximately one church for every 100m road.[citation needed] This is due to a successful missionary campaign by the Christian church in Northern Sulawesi.

The Portuguese left reminders of their presence in the north in subtle ways. Portuguese surnames and various Portuguese words not found elsewhere in Indonesia, like garrida for an enticing woman and buraco for a bad man, can still be found in Minahasa


The Minahasans fought alongside the Dutch to subdue rebellions in other parts of the archipelago, notably in the Java War of 1825-30. They seemed to gain a special role in the Dutch scheme of things and their loyalty to the Dutch as soldiers, their Christian religion and their geographic isolation from the rest of Indonesia all led to a sense of being 'different' from the other ethnic groups of the archipelago.

I don't know much about Minahasan / Manado but I do know that Minahasan / Manado women are beautiful especially the one I met here in NYC Oh & I love their food too

Hahaha, I guess that's what separate Indonesian Muslims from ell other kind of Muslims all over the world: they don't even know what kind of food is not halal. Well, a little bit of info for you, my friends. Bat has fangs, and any animal that has fangs are not halal. Conclusion: bat is not halal.

Do you know about Bohusami union that stands for:
Boolang Mogondow
Hulontallo (Gorontalo)
Sangihe Talaud
Minahasa

I believe this ethnics groups share common ancestors, brotherhood of North Sulawesi people.

Oh yeah I heard about this "special" relationship between Minahasans and Dutch.
Probably because the willingness of Minahasans to convert to Christianity, while in other ethnics case, they are still retain and resist being Christened, coz they're already embrace Islam like Acehnese, Minangkabau, Malay, Javanese, Sundanese, Makassar, Buginese, and Northern Molluccans (Ternate), or Balinese whom stick to Hinduism and resist Islamization nor Christian proselytizing.
Even there's opinion that Minahasan (Menadonese) and Ambonese (Southern Moluccans) whom are christian majority are "Dutch Pet".... since lots of KNIL personnel are came from these ethnics groups.

They called the Dutch dogs , I'm not sure why but I think maybe because they excepted the Dutch colonialsm while the other provinces/ethnics do not want to have a bother of them.

No. Although physically the two are most similar among the four ethnic groups below, no one would have anyone lumped it with another. There is also a long-standing rivalry between the two ethnic groups which is among the reasons leading to the separation of the North Sulawesi province.


I don't think so. Those Sanger people (from Sangihe Talaud) is probably closer to Moluccans, considering their physical apearance. But that union is indeed common outside northern Sulawesi. The bond is probably tighter once they live far away from home.


Funny that it's often overlooked that many Javanese and Madurese also served in KNIL. Marechausse of the Aceh conquest was said to have Javanese footsoldiers in droves.

if i'm not mistaken I think my great grandfather served for the dutch...
I have to ask my dad again to confirm this

more about "The history of minahasa"

The Japanese occupation of 1942-45 was a period of deprivation, and the allies bombed Manado heavily in 1945. During the war of independence that followed, there was bitter division between pro-Indonesian Unitarians and those favoring Dutch-sponsored federalism. The appointment of a Manadonese Christian, Sam Ratulangi, as the first republican governor of eastern Indonesia, was decisive in winning Minahasan support for the republic.

As the young republic lurched from crisis to crisis, Jakarta's monopoly over the copra trade seriously weakened Minahasa's economy. Illegal exports flourished and in June 1956 Jakarta ordered the closure of Manado port, the busiest smuggling port in the republic. Local leaders refused and Jakarta backed down. Soon the Permesta rebels confronted the central government with demands for political, economic and regional reform. Jakarta responded in Manado by bombing the city in February 1958, and then invading in June 1958.

The Minahasan sense of being different quickly became a problem for the central government after independence. As in Sumatra there was a general feeling that the central government was inefficient, development was stagnating and money was being plugged into Java. Circumstances favored the spread of communism.

In March 1957 the military leaders of both southern and northern Sulawesi launched a confrontation with the central government, with demands for greater regional autonomy. They demanded more local development, a fairer share of revenue, help in suppressing the Kahar Muzakar rebellion in Southern Sulawesi, and a cabinet of the central government led jointly by Soekarno and Hatta. At least initially the 'Permesta' (Piagam Perjuangan Semesta Alam) rebellion was a reformist rather than a separatist movement.

Negotiations between the central government and the Sulawesi military leaders prevented violence in southern Sulawesi, but the Minahasan leaders were dissatisfied with the agreements and the movement split. Inspired, perhaps, by fears of domination by the south, the Minahasan leaders declared their own autonomous state of North Sulawesi in June 1957. By this time the central government had the situation in southern Sulawesi pretty much under control but in the north they had no strong local figure to rely upon and there were rumors that the USA, suspected of supplying arms to rebels in Sumatra, was also in contact with the Minahasan leaders.

The possibility of foreign intervention finally drove the central government to seek military support from southern Sulawesi. Permesta forces were driven out of central Sulawesi, Gorontalo, the Sangir island and from Morotai in Maluku (from whose airfield the rebels had hoped to fly bombing raids on Jakarta). The rebels' few planes (supplied by the USA and flown by Filipino, Taiwanese and US pilots) were destroyed. US policy shifted, favoring Jakarta, and in June 1958 central government troops landed in Minahasa. The Permesta rebellion was finally put down in mid-1961.

The effect of both the Sumatran and Sulawesi rebellions was to strengthen exactly those trends the rebels had hoped to weaken. Central authority was enhanced at the expense of local autonomy, radical nationalism gained over pragmatic moderation, the power of the communists and Soekarno increased while that of Hatta waned, and Soekarno was able to establish guided democracy in 1959.

Recently, the Indonesian government has adopted policies to strengthen local autonomy, the very idea that Permesta fought for.

Most of Minahasan man's KNIL like my mum's father but my dad's father was the secretary of Permesta during those days. I rad most of the permesta history once when I was at my grandpas house.

hello guys i'm new here, and yeah i'm proud to be a minahasan/manadonese

Welcome to the forum!!

Cute siggy!!!

thank you

Hi Gina!
Ba karja ato ba skolah ngana i?
Angko, tombulu, tontemboan, bantik ato yang laeng kine.
Bole tau re ya!

Welcome to the forum! Come and hang for a while, we'll have bat meat

Check this lick than you may find some interesting pics as I cannot resaved and posted again!
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=83477

thanks claudia!!

Dian Sastro is very sweet and pretty. and a Javanese!! another Acehnese actress(forgotten her name) is the most beautiful among all.

What do they mean by PURE INDO?? some state it as... PURE INDO-JAVANESE while some just.... PURE-INDO.

Didnt know Minahasan are people from far away place from Jakarta.

It means that the person is Pure Indonesian, d'uh! And we just looove to know her/his ethnicity, so that explains the "Javanese" part.
Jakarta is only one place, you know. Indonesia is more than Jakarta, much more diverse and much bigger!

^^ Okay. But according to Wikipedia and some Indonesians i know. INDO means someone who is mix Indonesian Native(Malay race)+other race(mainly european like Dutch)

^ there is some truth to what you're saying
but don't always trust wikipedia

wikipedia is not 100% reliable..

That's right!
Indo aka Indonesia
Pure Indo aka 100% Indonesian
Indo-Javanese aka 100% Indonesian but from Java.

okay.. i give u a Distinction for answering my question. You guys qualify for Indo Universitas!! lolx.

Oh dear, don't luv at my very poor sentences.
I know many of us learned different English dialeg from a different country.
Example: XxryochanxX learned the English American, I learned English Australian, Furan learned English British & I guess you learned English Singapore.

Btw, that's a cool avatar. Who's that?

^ some random pic i saw on Yahoo!! i just dont wanna look that way.. lolx..

u look pretty, if thats u in the avatar.. i know it is stupid cuz all i can see is your eye which look like nadya hutagalung.

Ahahaha, I guess I know where your confusion came from, pak singa! We often abbreviate Indonesia to "Indo", and we also call Indonesian with foreign ancestry as Indo too
But if it's "Pure Indo", it certainly means "Pure Indonesian"

Cool Avatar tha makes me luv and googles....

Yes, that's my picture taken a week ago.
I'm not as pretty as Nadya as I'm a pure Indonesian.
I once met a British Pilot and he said I'm look Anggun C Sasmi but because my skin white & lighter so there's a different. My cousins friends said I'm look like Christina Aquilera (I think little bit and that's when I was a teen).
My daughter's court me watched Anggun's Song 'Snow on The Sahara' in YouTube a few days ago and she said "Oh mum! That girl look like you!" I said "What?"

I am look like those one but when I put on weight change a lot. Btw, I'm who I'm & I don't really like to be compare the similarity of other girls.

Link to some Minahasan/Manadonese nostalgic songs: Minahasan girls-boys and men face you can view here. They're come from a different Minahasan sub-ethnic. Most Pure Minahasan/Manadonese Girls & Boys, they're face similar to Philipine or Thai, specially their skins white & lighter than any ethnics in Indonesia.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_DbQi181PQ...ted&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FacbiezQfEk...ted&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVLrBLqPDww...ted&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuk5XU2CT1g...ted&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEdDpKdxMyM...ted&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QtZX5ludFM...ted&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy-D7Hsj2UA...ted&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMn-mYhtV0c...ted&search=

what do i know about minahasans??? Gosh, i know heaps! first of all i went for a vacation there with my family last christmas and it was awesome! i went to sooo much weddings and parties non-stop! so busy at the time. the weddings overthere are absolutely beautiful, it's very high class standard, as if a celebrity would make a wedding. LOL.
- As i was been bought in a western society, many of my indo friends say that minahasans/manado are "party people"
- they also refer Manado people as "Binyo"
- they say the girls there are really "cantik" (beautiful) hehehe.
- i've read an article on the internet that manado people look more latino/a or even a slight look of thai
- they have the most delicious foods in indonesia
- more than 90% of manado are Christians
- famous for its scuba diving, Bunaken island
- Manados have the best features/looks in comparison to other regions.
- Are very similiar to the Filipino people.
- They say that they're "mata duit", but thats not true.

Basically, Manadonese people are very modernism than any other region in indonesianm, due do being ruled by the Dutch in the earlier years. For example, the wedding styles in Manado, is basically the same as an western wedding, although if you observe an javanese or a dayak wedding..its more traditional and conservative.

Eiy! You're absolutely 99% right about Minahasan people. I wonder where you from. ????
By the way, welcome to the AF chat!

Nice info, minaaaa. But some of them are misleading. Dayak weddings are usually done in Western way too, even in the inland regions. This due to the fact they are mostly Catholic adherents (as Minahasan are Protestants). And that doesn't make them "modern" in any way (some of them can't even read), just "westernized".

It's too bad, actually seeing they worship western culture that much and forgetting their own. I have much more respect to the Torajans, Bataks, and Floresians, as eventhough they are Christians too, they are not forgetting their own root. Their style of weddings are traditional. And I see more famous and successful Bataks and Torajans( businessmen, entertainers, attorneys, politicians, etc) than Minahasans. I only know Minahasans to be famous in entertainment industry, and not always in a positive way.

Gw ga maksud menghina atau melecehkan suku tertentu ya, cuma ngasi info doang (makanya gw pake Bahasa Indonesia aja supaya yg lain ga tau aib kt). Pelacur Minahasa itu terkenal sekali di Jakarta, panggilannya cewek Kawanua. Ini adalah sebuah komunitas yang besar, terdiri dari cowok2 yang main kartu sambil nungguin cewek2nya "kerja" ngelayanin pria2 hidung belang.

apa, kamu kenal sama pelacur2 di jakarta?? gatal sih kamu!! awas, agar pacar(kalo kamu ada) kamu ngak tau tentang ini.

@Claudia: I manage to see 2 videos.. now i know how Minahasans look like.. just like some actresses i seen on indonesian tv.

Gw seh ga kenal pelacur2, pelacur2 yg kenal gw!

Hi! You don't need to be shy to tell the truth about most Minahasans girl get taken and promised to work in Jakarta for a positive way but turn up those poor girls in such a negative way alias prostitute. They're normally taken by Germo and that's what I knew. These days many parents realise how many things happened in the past so their not prefere their childrens go to Jkt with those 'Unknown people alias Germo'. However, I also knew that most Germo would prefer Minahasan girl to be their workers as they're pretty and most men would also prefer Minahasan girl as they're smooth white skin. I can't remember what web I rad most of this story which's surprised me. Not at all what you said about our ethnic. Most Minahasan who live in Java are bussines man and most women maried other ethnicity because of their good looking. What's more most Bataknese maried Minahasans.

I knew for a fact, one of my friend whose in the same class with me at year 12 at high school got their job straight away as a secretary in Jkt without going to Uni. However, I once going to go there and live with my dad's cousins but my dad said "No!" Hmmm well, he worried so much.

Excuse me?? Minahasan is indeed not forgetting their culture. In fact, we were well known for our culture. We don't "worship western culture". If we worshiped western culture, Manado city would be well-developed by now in comparison to JKT. so you say, you "see more famous and successful bataks and Torajans" ..we dont care if they're intellectual business/politician-wise, we know that those occupations manipulate the country ..but who cares??? Are you trying to say that Minahasans aren't successful???.....and you say "i only know minahasans to be famous in e the entertainment industry"....where have you been in all your life?...there are heaps of successful people in manado, not only in the entertainment industry...Maybe were just too ""sexy" to be in the spotlight..=) hahaha.

@Claudia: I manage to see 2 videos.. now i know how Minahasans look like.. just like some actresses i seen on indonesian tv.
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Some are & some aren't. In this AF some people said that Monahasan has slanty eye like the Chinese but they're really Thai or Philipine alike.
Btw here's randomly Manadonese/Minahasan girls and boys pictures.
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4th pic: Runner Up Miss Indonesia World 2007 (Verna Inkiriwang even knows she represented Middle Sulawesi but she's a pure Minahasans.

5th Pic: some Misses and Misters Manado 2004. The one with yellow T-shirt was formerly Miss Indonesia World 2006.

Here's her pic the one witrh yellow T-shirt above Kristania Besouw.
7th Pic: Maya Waloni, Miss Manado 2004
Astrid Kumentas (Miss North Sulawesi 2004)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x9cP3TDpCY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxoMm2kP17s...ted&search=
minahasans do have culture! watch this.

wow, very attractive....yeah, i think many minahasans look similar to filipinos too...

did you just say that we don't have our own culture?
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? have you ever been to manado ?

That's right! Ryon, we've got a great culture. The Minahasans who lives outsite Minahasans maybe modernise people but the one who lives there a truly culture people.

*About the western worship style for Christian happened to be the same to the US gospel but the original Minahasans still have they're own style of worship, calm & old style.

You should come to Minahasa alone and see the reality of being a KAWANUA alias Minahasans.
In western country the Minahasans called Kawanua where people have events and culture party called arisan and visiting each other and even have a great culture events.
I believe there's only one ethinc in this world still bring their culture to the western world even know they're far away but their heart still the same.