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Thabo
This list will continously updated by me.. if others would like to contribute please feel free.

Actors
Hritik Roshan
Sunil Dutt
Sanjay Dutt
Shah Rukh Khan

Actresses
Meera
Katrina Kaif (Dad from Pak admin Kashmir)
Amna Sharif

Singers
Atif Aslam
Mustafa Zahid
Adnan Sammi
Salma Aga
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what exactly does this do? It doesnt promote intelligent discussion.It just lists names.
Whats up with all your horrible topics? Give some thought to what u post please.
Jagger
Do TV actresses count?

Amna Sharif





QUOTE(Thabo @ Aug 5 2007, 05:20 AM) *
This list will continously updated by me.. if others would like to contribute please feel free.

Actors
Hritik Roshan
Sunil Dutt
Sanjay Dutt
Shah Rukh Khan

How are they Pakistani? None of them were born in Pakistan (except for Sunil Dutt).
Thabo
QUOTE(Jagger @ Aug 5 2007, 06:52 PM) *
Do TV actresses count?

Amna Sharif




How are they Pakistani? None of them were born in Pakistan (except for Sunil Dutt).


They have paki blood.
Jagger
QUOTE(Thabo @ Aug 6 2007, 02:16 AM) *
They have paki blood.

There are also many Pakistanis with ancestors from India, but that doesn't make them Indian.

"Indian" and "Pakistani" are nationalities, not ethicities. It wouldn't make sense to use these terms in an ethnic sense.
VAMAN
Another stupid thread. Nothing good to comment here. iamwithstupid.gif
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(Jagger @ Aug 5 2007, 10:14 PM) *
There are also many Pakistanis with ancestors from India, but that doesn't make them Indian.

"Indian" and "Pakistani" are nationalities, not ethicities. It wouldn't make sense to use these terms in an ethnic sense.



When India and Pakistan were one, it would be interesting to know if ancestors frequently switched back and forth.

It would be really hard to classify people who were from the Indian Punjab, then went to the Pakistani Punjab a few years later, then back again to the Indian Punjab during pre-partition times. icon_wink.gif
VAMAN
QUOTE(Thabo @ Aug 5 2007, 09:50 AM) *
This list will continously updated by me.. if others would like to contribute please feel free.

Actors
Hritik Roshan
Sunil Dutt
Sanjay Dutt
Shah Rukh Khan

They all are Indians.
raindropz
Katrina Kaif
Hritik Roshan
Sunil Dutt
Sanjay Dutt
Shah Rukh Khan


they are all indian! katrina is half indian
Thabo
QUOTE(raindropz @ Aug 6 2007, 10:33 AM) *
Katrina Kaif
Hritik Roshan
Sunil Dutt
Sanjay Dutt
Shah Rukh Khan
they are all indian! katrina is half indian


Katrina's dad is from Pak adminstered Kashmir...
Also, SRK's dad was from Peshawar as well as Sanjay Dutts.
Hritiks grand pa is from Gunjarwala

So yes, they ARE all Pakis whether you like it or not.
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(Thabo @ Aug 6 2007, 03:13 PM) *
Katrina's dad is from Pak adminstered Kashmir...
Also, SRK's dad was from Peshawar as well as Sanjay Dutts.
Hritiks grand pa is from Gunjarwala

So yes, they ARE all Pakis whether you like it or not.


Sanjay Dutt's mom is an Indian Muslim. You only mentioned Hrithik and SRK's dad being from Pakistan, so I guess their moms must be Indian then.

Why should they be regarded as Paki only when they have Indian blood too, by your logic?
Thabo
QUOTE(ExpressYourself @ Aug 6 2007, 03:22 PM) *
Sanjay Dutt's mom is an Indian Muslim. You only mentioned Hrithik and SRK's dad being from Pakistan, so I guess their moms must be Indian then.

Why should they be regarded as Paki only when they have Indian blood too, by your logic?


It's kinda like that 1/8 rule. Even if you only have an ounce of black blood you're automatically considered black regardless of how you look. So if you have even the littlest fraction of Paki blood, you're a paki.
nimbus
wouldnt they only be considered Paki if they were born in Pakistan after the partition? anyone born before that would be considered Indian...and dont most of the ppl that fled to the Indian side during the partition consider themselves Indian and not Paki?

idk, that's what i've always heard.

like the Paki Punjabi's that consider themselves Paki and not Indian since they crossed over to Pakistan during the partition.
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(Thabo @ Aug 6 2007, 03:59 PM) *
It's kinda like that 1/8 rule. Even if you only have an ounce of black blood you're automatically considered black regardless of how you look. So if you have even the littlest fraction of Paki blood, you're a paki.


There is no such rule, none of these celebrities have ever called themselves Pakistani over Indian, and you have no right to tell people what to call themselves.

I don't know if you're just causing entertainment online, or you're really that dumb.


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wouldnt they only be considered Paki if they were born in Pakistan after the partition? anyone born before that would be considered Indian...and dont most of the ppl that fled to the Indian side during the partition consider themselves Indian and not Paki?

idk, that's what i've always heard.



Exactly. Don't listen to him. I know Indians who have roots to Pakistan, and they consider themselves Indian and nothing else. I have never met one who calls themselves Pakistani, because their ancestors were technically Indian before the partition.

Thabo
QUOTE(nimbus @ Aug 6 2007, 04:07 PM) *
wouldnt they only be considered Paki if they were born in Pakistan after the partition? anyone born before that would be considered Indian...and dont most of the ppl that fled to the Indian side during the partition consider themselves Indian and not Paki?

idk, that's what i've always heard.

like the Paki Punjabi's that consider themselves Paki and not Indian since they crossed over to Pakistan during the partition.


Um... there was no "India" before 1947. So you can't say that everybody who lived on that land were Indians. All residents of, what is not known as the "Indian Subcontinent," were ruled by invaders. There was no such thing called "India."
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what exactly does this do? It doesnt promote intelligent discussion.It just lists names.
Whats up with all your horrible topics? Give some thought to what u post please.


This topic is...re..tar...did.


QUOTE(Thabo)
It's kinda like that 1/8 rule. Even if you only have an ounce of black blood you're automatically considered black regardless of how you look. So if you have even the littlest fraction of Paki blood, you're a paki.


Pakistani is a nationality NOT a race..So that arguement makes no sense.
ExpressYourself
QUOTE(Thabo @ Aug 6 2007, 05:06 PM) *
Um... there was no "India" before 1947. So you can't say that everybody who lived on that land were Indians. All residents of, what is not known as the "Indian Subcontinent," were ruled by invaders. There was no such thing called "India."



Do you have like multiple personality disorder? You can't seem to make up your mind on whether you want to be a Paki, an Indian Gujarati, or a South Indian.
VAMAN
QUOTE(Thabo @ Aug 7 2007, 01:43 AM) *
Katrina's dad is from Pak adminstered Kashmir...
Also, SRK's dad was from Peshawar as well as Sanjay Dutts.
Hritiks grand pa is from Gunjarwala

So yes, they ARE all Pakis whether you like it or not.

I don't know about Katrina. But Sanjay Dutt, Hrithik Roshan and Shahrukh Khan are Indians. Their ancestors were from regions now in Pakistan doesn't make them less Indian. Let me remind you that India was partitioned in 1947.

Going by your rule General Musharraf is Indian because he was born in Delhi and Manmohan Singh (India's current Prime Minister) is Pakistani because he was born in a place now in Pakistan. What type of logic is this?

QUOTE(Thabo @ Aug 7 2007, 03:36 AM) *
Um... there was no "India" before 1947. So you can't say that everybody who lived on that land were Indians. All residents of, what is not known as the "Indian Subcontinent," were ruled by invaders. There was no such thing called "India."

There was an entity known as India before 1947. But there was no such entity known as Pakistan. What do you think India before 1947 was known as "British India". India before was a geographical entity Indian Subcontinent right.
raindropz
^exactly what he said, they lived in India before the partition, so they are all Indian, and Katrina is half indian
Thabo
QUOTE(VAMAN @ Aug 6 2007, 07:48 PM) *
I don't know about Katrina. But Sanjay Dutt, Hrithik Roshan and Shahrukh Khan are Indians. Their ancestors were from regions now in Pakistan doesn't make them less Indian. Let me remind you that India was partitioned in 1947.

Going by your rule General Musharraf is Indian because he was born in Delhi and Manmohan Singh (India's current Prime Minister) is Pakistani because he was born in a place now in Pakistan. What type of logic is this?
There was an entity known as India before 1947. But there was no such entity known as Pakistan. What do you think India before 1947 was known as "British India". India before was a geographical entity Indian Subcontinent right.


Um.. before 1947 India was not a country.
VAMAN
QUOTE(Thabo @ Aug 7 2007, 09:12 AM) *
Um.. before 1947 India was not a country.

But the land was known as India.
Thabo
QUOTE(VAMAN @ Aug 6 2007, 11:25 PM) *
But the land was known as India.


Um.. no it wasn't. It was known as British India. If it existed for so many years then why would it celebrate its independence of only 60 years?
VAMAN
QUOTE(Thabo @ Aug 7 2007, 10:12 AM) *
Um.. no it wasn't. It was known as British India.

Why it was not used be called British Swaziland or British Pakistan?? Because it was India and it is India. So you see.

QUOTE(Thabo @ Aug 7 2007, 10:12 AM) *
If it existed for so many years then why would it celebrate its independence of only 60 years?

India gained independence in 1947 from the British occupation. Hence 60 years.
nimbus
QUOTE(Thabo @ Aug 6 2007, 06:06 PM) *
Um... there was no "India" before 1947. So you can't say that everybody who lived on that land were Indians. All residents of, what is not known as the "Indian Subcontinent," were ruled by invaders. There was no such thing called "India."



in that same respect, how can anyone be considered Paki if there was no Pakistan at that time?

so, according to your logic, if someone, for example, SRK, even though he was born in India, is considered Paki because his father was born in an area that is present day Pakistan, although Pakistan didnt even exist at the time of his birth?

so SRK is Paki, even though he was born in India? but everyone who is descended from ppl that were inhabitants of present day Pakistan, even though at the time of their birth the country didnt exist, is considered Paki? does this hold true for Pakis born in India? for example, the Paki Punjabis who ran over to the Pakistan during the partition? or is everyone just Paki?

so you can be Paki without establishment of the country, but not Indian...okay....

Pakistani is a nationality, just like Indian. if you were born in India, you are Indian, not Paki.
VAMAN
QUOTE(Thabo @ Aug 7 2007, 03:36 AM) *
Um... there was no "India" before 1947. So you can't say that everybody who lived on that land were Indians. All residents of, what is not known as the "Indian Subcontinent," were ruled by invaders. There was no such thing called "India."

Just because a country know as Pakistan was created after independence unfortunately, you just can't go blah blah. I have lots of logic behind as to why India exists. I suppose you never read any ancient scriptures in your life nor you remember any Sanskrit Slokas. There is a lot of reference where India was referred time and again in ancient scriptures as one entity. India has other native names as well Aryavarta, Jambudwip, Bharat, and the Persian name Hindustan. These names are for the whole of India. And it also includes modern day Pakistan. These names used to exist before Islam came, much before Mughals and British came to India.
pun187
This thread is stupid. LOL
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