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pun187
Well did you know that the majority of Bollywood movies are rip-offs of Hollywood films and movies from other asian film industries such as korea and japan ? And how come they don't even give credits to the makers of the original movies ?

Here's a "little" list of Rip-Offs indian superhit movies.

Lagaan (Seven Samurai)
Munnabhai M.B.B.S. (Patch Adams)
Salaam Namaste (Nine Months)
Hum Tum (When Harry Met Sally)
Dhoom (A mix of The Fast and the Furious and Torque embarassedlaugh.gif)
Masti (Whipped)
Bunty aur Bubbly (A very lame version of Bonnie and Clyde)
Kaante (Reservoir Dogs)
Mohabbatein (Dead Poets Society)
Black (The Miracle Worker)
Kuch Kuch Hota Hai (Sleepless in Seattle)
Akele Hum Akele Tum (Kramer vs. Kramer)
Jo Jeeta Wohi Sikandar (Breaking Away) used to be one of my fav movies. embarassedlaugh.gif
Humraaz (A Perfect Murder)
Jism (Body Heat)
Sholay (The Magnificient Seven)


If you know more Bollywood movies, which are "inspired" by other films, please let me know. beerchug.gif
Wilson
Wow, Bollywood sucks in my opinion. So they copy everything, and it still sucks, even though it is the biggest film industry in the world, Second being hollywood.

Bollywood movies can be sumed up in

4 songs
3 dance scenes
2 major characters
1 hellofa stupid plot line.
pun187
QUOTE(Wilson @ Aug 10 2007, 11:07 AM) *
Wow, sucks in my opinion. So they copy everything, and it still sucks, even though it is the biggest film industry in the world, Second being hollywood.

movies can be sumed up in

4 songs
3 dance scenes
2 major characters
1 hellofa stupid plot line.

Bollywood isn't the biggest movie industry in the world! The entire Indian movie industry combined together is. Bollywood is not the only movie industry in India, you know ? There is also Kollywood and Tollywood ect. ect. All combined are the Indian movie industry, the biggest movie industry in the world it is.
Wilson
oh righto, wow they can't get more original can they? Bollywood, KollyWood, Tollywood
Najjiah
pun, bollywood movies are still great. nuff said.

if u dont cry after watching movies like k3g , black, mother india, fiza, umrao jaan (original rekha version), and pakeeza, plus so many more... if u aint cryin after viewing those films than im sorry... y'all r heartless cruel cruel meanies.

plus ur unpatriotic and totally bashing the industry which made the khans famous. thats all i have 2 say.

pun187
QUOTE(Najjiah @ Aug 10 2007, 11:17 AM) *
pun, bollywood movies are still great. nuff said.

if u dont cry after watching movies like k3g , black, mother india, fiza, umrao jaan (original rekha version), and pakeeza, plus so many more... if u aint cryin after viewing those films than im sorry... y'all r heartless cruel cruel meanies.

plus ur unpatriotic and totally bashing the industry which made the khans famous. thats all i have 2 say.

What does crying have to do with a good movie ? I bet even a swazi movie could make one cry. embarassedlaugh.gif And yeah I could care less about some imaginary lines on a map. LOL

Actually people copy one another all the time, but they should atleast admit it, no ?
kollision
Whats up pun187? You are right man, thats what pisses me off about Bollywood. They even just made a wannabe Harry Potter from what I was reading on SmashHits. The funny thing is that they like it and will admit it by stating that it is the movies rival.

Lagaan, I thought it was a true story? I liked it personally. Bollywood movies are great so long I didnt see the movie that it ripped off icon_wink.gif

I didnt see Bunty aur Bubly but I did see one of the Music Vids. That was a rip off of Moulin Rouge.

Didnt know about Hum Tum, but I liked that movie since I never saw the english make of it. Dhoom was clearly a rip off.

Theres also a lot of those movies that copy Matrix...horrible..

pun187
QUOTE(kollision @ Aug 10 2007, 12:00 PM) *
Whats up pun187?

I'm doing good bro. I took four weeks off from work and am having a good time so far. LOL

QUOTE(kollision @ Aug 10 2007, 12:00 PM) *
You are right man, thats what pisses me off about Bollywood. They even just made a wannabe Harry Potter from what I was reading on SmashHits. The funny thing is that they like it and will admit it by stating that it is the movies rival.

Lagaan, I thought it was a true story? I liked it personally. Bollywood movies are great so long I didnt see the movie that it ripped off icon_wink.gif

The story of Lagaan was fiction, it never really happened. If you watch the original, you would realize immediately that it's a rip-off. I thought Lagaan was an original too, until I had the chance to Watch Seven Samurai.


QUOTE(kollision @ Aug 10 2007, 12:00 PM) *
I didnt see Bunty aur Bubly but I did see one of the Music Vids. That was a rip off of Moulin Rouge.

embarassedlaugh.gif


kollision
QUOTE(pun187 @ Aug 10 2007, 04:16 AM) *
I'm doing good bro. I took four weeks off from work and am having a good time so far. LOL


Same here. Well actually I took today off, feels great man.

QUOTE
The story of Lagaan was fiction, it never really happened. If you watch the original, you would realize immediately that it's a rip-off. I thought Lagaan was an original too, until I had the chance to Watch Seven Samurai.


Man that sucks then. I think that most people think it was a true story. Amir Khan needs to get sued!

BTW I read that thread about 30 M dollar law suit. Maybe then we will get good original stories. What about Kal Ho Naa Ho, was that a rip off of another movie? That was perhaps one of my fav. movies, especially at the end when he states that Saif will have Rani for this life, but for the rest of the lives, she'll be his.
Mona
QUOTE(kollision @ Aug 10 2007, 04:19 AM) *
Same here. Well actually I took today off, feels great man.
Man that sucks then. I think that most people think it was a true story. Amir Khan needs to get sued!

BTW I read that thread about 30 M dollar law suit. Maybe then we will get good original stories. What about Kal Ho Naa Ho, was that a rip off of another movie? That was perhaps one of my fav. movies, especially at the end when he states that Saif will have Rani for this life, but for the rest of the lives, she'll be his.



I'm surprised at how much knowledge you got about Indian movies and India.

You must have many Indian friends.
You said once u got many Pakistani friends and was learning urdu/hindi.
kollision
QUOTE(Mona @ Aug 10 2007, 04:36 AM) *
I'm surprised at how much knowledge you got about Indian movies and India.

You must have many Indian friends.
You said once u got many Pakistani friends and was learning urdu/hindi.


Yup Mona, Ive got some Paki friends, most of them are from Karachi and came here when they were like 5 or 8. I had some Indian friends and most of them were born here. Is that a common thing today for Indians to be born here and Pakis to come here from Pakistan? I knew a Guju, not sure if he was born here or not though.

I also catch the occasional Namaste America once in awhile.

As far as learning Urdu, Ive put a stop to it for awhile since I only see my paki friends once in awhile. Im learning Arabic right now though.
Mona
QUOTE(kollision @ Aug 10 2007, 04:38 AM) *
Yup Mona, Ive got some Paki friends, most of them are from Karachi and came here when they were like 5 or 8. I had some Indian friends and most of them were born here. Is that a common thing today for Indians to be born here and Pakis to come here from Pakistan? I knew a Guju, not sure if he was born here or not though.

As far as learning Urdu, Ive put a stop to it for awhile since I only see my paki friends once in awhile. Im learning Arabic right now though.

i wanna learn arabic, it must be damn hard.

You know i really admire you.
kollision
QUOTE(Mona @ Aug 10 2007, 04:40 AM) *
i wanna learn arabic, it must be damn hard.

You know i really admire you.


Thanks Mona I appreciate the kind words, youre making me blush icon_redface.gif

Arabic is a nice language for me the way it sounds. Im personally learning it so I can get a better understanding from Quran than from the English translations, since most of them are with what people interpret themselves and not the literal meaning. Id encourage all Muslims to learn arabic instead of just saying things they dont know. Most of my friends are that way, and I dont think they learn anything or gain anything from Islam by doing things they dont understand.

Theres several words that I know in Urdu that are in Arabic, not quite sure if the words are used in Hindi though. Stuff like Kitab, qalam, etc. I know that Urdu is a mix of various languages like Farsi, Arabic, etc., but Im not quite sure which words are Hindi or just Urdu.
cherry_tree
Hey you, now let's watch all these movies together.
pun187
Haha cool beerchug.gif I always have the time to watch a movie with you.
Unity_Asia
I think I've asked this question before, but why are Bollywood authors so god damned unoriginal?? and why do Indian people swallow the same bull$hit storyline over and over again? And I'm not talking about Indian people in India, I'm talking about the ones in the West. Seriously, I've seen so many intelligent Desis that will sit down for over 3 hours watching a totally retarded movie.
Thabo
This thread is a rip off of my Thread about bolly being a copy cat in the thread titled sue bollywood!!!!..

Indians, never learn.
Role Model
i heard somewhere before that most of the Indian movies, they're copied version of hollywood movies...... the problem is in nepal, they make Nepali movies which is needless to say copied version of bollywood movies xDD it's forming a subset....
VAMAN
QUOTE(pun187 @ Aug 10 2007, 01:33 PM) *
Well did you know that the majority of Bollywood movies are rip-offs of Hollywood films and movies from other asian film industries such as korea and japan ? And how come they don't even give credits to the makers of the original movies ?

Bollywood produces nearly 800 films per year. By showing a handful of rip offs you can't claim wrong facts.

QUOTE(pun187 @ Aug 10 2007, 01:33 PM) *
Here's a "little" list of Rip-Offs indian superhit movies.

Lagaan (Seven Samurai)

Have you seen 'Seven Samurai' or you just read that in some site and posted here without confirming? Lagaan is surely not a copy of Seven Samurai. You can say it as remotely inspired. I don't find it even remotely inspired from the Japanese movie.

QUOTE(pun187 @ Aug 10 2007, 01:33 PM) *
Sholay (The Magnificient Seven)
If you know more Bollywood movies, which are "inspired" by other films, please let me know. beerchug.gif

The Magnificent Seven (Seven Samurai)

So many Hollywood movies are copies of other movies. People don't talk about that openly because of copyright issues. It is easy to get sued in the U.S. you know.

Mahesh Bhatt, Mukesh Bhatt, Pooja Bhatt are the baddest producers in Bollywood. They produce copies of Hollywood flicks like a factory.
The Killer (2006) - Collateral (2004)
Paap (2003) - Witness (1985)
Zeher (2005) - Out of Time (2003)
Role Model
seems more like you're trying to escape. what you said must be true though icon_rolleyes.gif
which one? got any name... uhmm... just curious because mostly in hollywood movies the story is adapted throught novels/short dramas/documentries/comics and asfar as i know they've given credits more that i did.
Thabo
bollycat.com icon_smile.gif
raindropz
Mahesh Bhatt, Mukesh Bhatt ugh i hate them, they use da same people in their moviez
pun187
QUOTE(VAMAN @ Aug 10 2007, 07:29 PM) *
Have you seen 'Seven Samurai' or you just read that in some site and posted here without confirming? Lagaan is surely not a copy of Seven Samurai. You can say it as remotely inspired. I don't find it as been even remotely inspired from the Japanese movie.

Yes I've seen seven samurai myself. Have you seen it ? embarassedlaugh.gif

Remotely inspired ? embarassedlaugh.gif In Lagaan the main character helps a small village to stand up against an agressor, just like in Seven Samurai(it were two main characters though). Aamir Khan recruits men for his team, just like how Takashi Shimura brought the Samurai together. The Plot was the same, the only difference is that the swords were changed with cricket bats. Lagaan is also "inspired" by the movie Escape to Victory. Both movies are about a match between the oppressed and the oppressors. In Lagaan poor Indian villagers have to beat the oppressors in a cricket match, for this they have to learn a sport, which is totally alien to them. In Escape to Victory a group of war prisoners have to play a football match against the german national team, all taking place in Nazi occupied Paris during WW2.

QUOTE(VAMAN @ Aug 10 2007, 07:29 PM) *
Bollywood produces nearly 800 films per year. By showing a handful of rip offs you can't claim wrong facts.

And I bet that 790 of those movies are rip offs and rip offs of rip offs. embarassedlaugh.gif 800 movies a year, no wonder they are rip-offs. sure.gif
ExpressYourself
I think Raaz was inspired by "What lies beneath."

Bhoot was inspired by the Exorcist.

Some movie called "mera shaadi hain" or something with jimmy shergill and bipasha..was inspired by "My best friend's wedding."
kollision
Oo ya just remembered. Whats that one that was a copy of Godfather with Amitabh Bachanan?
VAMAN
QUOTE(pun187 @ Aug 10 2007, 11:17 PM) *
Yes I've seen seven samurai myself. Have you seen it ? embarassedlaugh.gif

Yes of course I have seen it.

QUOTE(pun187 @ Aug 10 2007, 11:17 PM) *
Remotely inspired ? embarassedlaugh.gif In Lagaan the main character helps a small village to stand up against an agressor, just like in Seven Samurai(it were two main characters though).

Your saying as if no one can help their village in a movie because someone did that before in a Japanese film. Wow what a comparison.

QUOTE(pun187 @ Aug 10 2007, 11:17 PM) *
Aamir Khan recruits men for his team, just like how Takashi Shimura brought the Samurai together. The Plot was the same, the only difference is that the swords were changed with cricket bats.

How come the plot is same? Where is the lady in Japaneses movie which teach the Samuaries how to fight with a Katana? Lagann is 3 hours 45 min long movie out of this during the whole 1 hour 15 min they were playing Cricket, where is that episode in Seven Samurai? There were no outsiders called by the village. Not even one character in both the movies match.

The central characters in Lagaan are Bhuvan and the British officer. The film centers around ego clash between Bhuvan and the British officer from start to the end of the movie but there is no such thing is Seven Samurai.

QUOTE(pun187 @ Aug 10 2007, 11:17 PM) *
Lagaan is also "inspired" by the movie Escape to Victory. Both movies are about a match between the oppressed and the oppressors. In Lagaan poor Indian villagers have to beat the oppressors in a cricket match, for this they have to learn a sport, which is totally alien to them. In Escape to Victory a group of war prisoners have to play a football match against the german national team, all taking place in Nazi occupied Paris during WW2.

I never watched this movie though. You can keep comparing. But I am not convinced.

QUOTE(pun187 @ Aug 10 2007, 11:17 PM) *
And I bet that 790 of those movies are rip offs and rip offs of rip offs. embarassedlaugh.gif 800 movies a year, no wonder they are rip-offs. sure.gif

Now your talking like a true troll. Good to see the standards the moderator of AF are setting. embarassedlaugh.gif

VAMAN
QUOTE(kollision @ Aug 10 2007, 11:40 PM) *
Oo ya just remembered. Whats that one that was a copy of Godfather with Amitabh Bachanan?

That would be Sarkar.
pun187
QUOTE(VAMAN @ Aug 10 2007, 10:36 PM) *
Your saying as if no one can help their village in a movie because someone did that before in a Japanese film. Wow what a comparison.

Ooh yeah, it's ofcourse normal for villagers to chose a totally alien method to defend their village.
QUOTE(VAMAN @ Aug 10 2007, 10:36 PM) *
How come the plot is same? Where is the lady in Japaneses movie which teach the Samuaries how to fight with a Katana? Lagann is 3 hours 45 min long movie out of this during the whole 1 hour 15 min they were playing Cricket, where is that episode in Seven Samurai? There were no outsiders called by the village. Not even one character in both the movies match.

Just because they bastardized the storyline by adding a bit "masala", a love triangle and some songs to make the story fit bollywood, doesn't change the fact that it was a copy. Heck even the character of the angry sardar who has played cricket for the british in the past was a copy. embarassedlaugh.gif

QUOTE(VAMAN @ Aug 10 2007, 10:36 PM) *
Now your talking like a true troll. Good to see the standards the moderator of AF are setting. embarassedlaugh.gif

I'm just being realistic. icon_neutral.gif
VAMAN
QUOTE(pun187 @ Aug 11 2007, 02:12 AM) *
Ooh yeah, it's ofcourse normal for villagers to chose a totally alien method to defend their village.

The British resident officer chose that method, not the villagers. It is a very non-violent method as compared to Seven Samurai.Talktohand.gif

QUOTE(pun187 @ Aug 11 2007, 02:12 AM) *
Just because they bastardized the storyline by adding a bit "masala", a love triangle and some songs to make the story fit bollywood, doesn't change the fact that it was a copy. Heck even the character of the angry sardar who has played cricket for the british in the past was a copy. embarassedlaugh.gif

Tell me at least one character similar in Lagaan and Seven Samurai. Then I will agree with you. Angry sarday is a copy? I never heard, saw or read anywhere that any american or japanese movie used a helpful, angry sardar in their movies. The logic your giving makes every film made in this world being copies.icon_neutral.gif

QUOTE(pun187 @ Aug 11 2007, 02:12 AM) *
I'm just being realistic. icon_neutral.gif

What made you say that? There is nothing realistic in that argument of yours. Your comment about most Bollywood movies being copies is incorrect.
ACMILAN1983
I don't personally think Lagaan (excellent film) is a copy of Seven Samurai (absoloute classic), though there are some clear similarities. Zinda on the other hand icon_rolleyes.gif

However, Bollywood does have a terrible history copying foreign films.
Unity_Asia
QUOTE(VAMAN @ Aug 10 2007, 05:18 PM) *
Then I will agree with you. Angry sarday is a copy? I never heard, saw or read anywhere that any american or japanese movie used a helpful, angry sardar in their movies.



bah, that angry sardar is a rip off of me...for i hate the british icon_twisted.gif icon_twisted.gif
VAMAN
QUOTE(Role Model @ Aug 10 2007, 10:35 PM) *
seems more like you're trying to escape. what you said must be true though icon_rolleyes.gif
which one? got any name... uhmm... just curious because mostly in hollywood movies the story is adapted throught novels/short dramas/documentries/comics and asfar as i know they've given credits more that i did.

I am not trying to escape at all. Read my posts first properly. You yourself said that Hollywood movies adapt stories from some modes thats plagiarism right because the script writer doesn't come out with any original idea so they copy the content. The problem is what most Bollywood directors do is amateurish plagiarism. While in Hollywood they do intelligent plagiarism because a lot of legal hassles are involved in America it involves big production houses. Most of them plagiarize from a script or a novel which is not identifiable immediately. Lots of Hollywood movies have faced lawsuits for plagiarism.

Read this article. It clearly tells how films are plagiarized in Hollywood.
http://www.weirdwildrealm.com/hollywoodplagiarism.html

Volcano (1997) -- Dante's Peak (1997) This is a typical Hollywood rip-off style. Rival production houses plagiarize the script of the other through spying or other means and release their movie before them.

The Magnificent Seven (1960) -- Seven Samurai (1954) (Japan)

Twister (1996) -- Tornado (1996)

The Departed (2006) -- Infernal Affairs (2002) (Hong Kong)

Orca (1977) -- Jaws (1975)

Mission to Mars (2000) -- Red Planet (2000)

Scary movie (2000) -- Shriek If You Know What I Did Last Friday the Thirteenth (2000)

Artificial Intelligence (2001) -- Bicentennial Man (1999)

Undercover Brother (2002) -- Austin Powers (1999)

Wing Commander (1999) -- Starship Troopers (1997)

EDtv (1999) -- The Truman Show (1998)

Cruel Intentions (1999) -- Valmont (1989) -- Dangerous Liasons (1988)

Entrapment (1999) -- The Thomas Crown Affair (1999)

End of Days (1999) -- Stigmata (1999)


















Confuse
I've actually seen a couple of movies that are flat out copies of other movies. I think one was a copy of "Twin Dragons" or something which starred Jackie Chan in the Origional, and Salman Khan in the Indian version.
JuicyFruit
QUOTE(pun187 @ Aug 10 2007, 05:03 AM) *
Well did you know that the majority of Bollywood movies are rip-offs


Isn't majority an exaggeration?

QUOTE(Wilson @ Aug 10 2007, 05:16 AM) *
oh righto, wow they can't get more original can they? Bollywood, KollyWood, Tollywood


The name "Bollywood" was made by a British reporter and the other names followed... they weren't created by people by India. icon_wink.gif
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