Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: New Brunswick Racial attacks on Chinese students linked to skinheads
Asia Finest Discussion Forum > Asian Culture > Chinese Chat
moviez
QUOTE
New Brunswick Racial attacks on Chinese students linked to skinheads
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/s...a11&k=80416

Three people charged in the recent beatings of Chinese university students in Saint John, N.B. claim to have ties to a skinhead organization.



So much lie about Canada being a peaceful country.

Canada has a history of discrimination against Chinese --> Headtax rings a Bell.
Jasel
Well there are alot of Asians who say they love living there.
Aerain
QUOTE(moviez @ Aug 11 2007, 09:41 AM) *
So much lie about Canada being a peaceful country.

Canada has a history of discrimination against Chinese --> Headtax rings a Bell.


That is one of the reasons I don't believe in multiculturalism; people will never change... Anyway, those kind of news reminds me of all the racists and idiots I have met in my life.
tung2sai
I would love to live there,
Cleaner air, Great food, lower crime than US, prettier women, nice diversity where you can actually experience some authenticity.

meh, there would be racists everywhere, just got to find a way to avoid, or defend yourself and prosecute.
ham_let
Lol, OMG |)anté!
catman
QUOTE(moviez @ Aug 11 2007, 08:41 AM) *
So much lie about Canada being a peaceful country.

Canada has a history of discrimination against Chinese --> Headtax rings a Bell.


I actually live in New Brunswick. The rate of Chinese students and immigrants have gone up dramatically in the past decade. Most (not all) Chinese I have talked to like it here because of the small population and the clean environment. Saint John is a poorer city and thus has a higher crime rate.

The skinheads arrested were all teenagers. Two of them are young offenders. Our criminal system is pretty slack when it comes to youth crime but the 19 year old should get the book thrown at him. Hopefully there aren't anymore losers like this out there.
aaaw
at least the 3 teens will be punished. canada does take hate crimes seriously unlike the US, unless it's white on blacks. Inspite of this incident, NB is a pretty nice place. I've been there many times and have not had a problem.

moviez
QUOTE(Jasel @ Aug 11 2007, 10:21 AM) *
Well there are alot of Asians who say they love living there.


There are also lots of white washed or white want-to-be be Asians say that the words "Ch@nk, G@@k and J@p" are not racist slurs at all.

QUOTE(Aerain @ Aug 11 2007, 11:34 AM) *
That is one of the reasons I don't believe in multiculturalism; people will never change... Anyway, those kind of news reminds me of all the racists and idiots I have met in my life.


Yup.

QUOTE(tung2sai @ Aug 11 2007, 11:37 AM) *
I would love to live there,
Cleaner air, Great food, lower crime than US, prettier women, nice diversity where you can actually experience some authenticity.

meh, there would be racists everywhere, just got to find a way to avoid, or defend yourself and prosecute.



Canada is not a good place for non-white especially Asians (Chinese) to live.


QUOTE(aaaw @ Aug 12 2007, 12:35 AM) *
at least the 3 teens will be punished. canada does take hate crimes seriously unlike the US, unless it's white on blacks. Inspite of this incident, NB is a pretty nice place. I've been there many times and have not had a problem.



Nope. The only reason those 3 Teen Skinheads were arrested is because NB wants to attract foreign students to study in their province.

Many Racists in Canada who do commit hate crimes do not get punished.
catman
QUOTE
Many Racists in Canada who do commit hate crimes do not get punished.


Just curious what you are basing this on? Hate crime laws have been taken very seriously here in the past decade.
B.ZhangMidshipman
QUOTE(catman @ Aug 12 2007, 08:49 AM) *
Just curious what you are basing this on? Hate crime laws have been taken very seriously here in the past decade.


People all over the world claim that Hate Crime Laws are of the most serious, even in Russia.

They do it to lighten up their image, not give accurate truth to the public.


I do have relatives in Canada, and they can tell you that most of the foul treatment of ethnic minorities that happnes there are ignored. But the policemen are not stupid, if they ignore 100% of the unfair treatment of ethnic minorities which occurs then people will obviously be inflamed. So what they'll do is prosecute racists once in a while to give the ethnic minorities a false sense of security.
KoreanaHoosierHahkseng
oh great! Just when I posted a thread on Chinese students getting attacked in New Zealand, I read that there's another attack on us Asian in Canada.

Damn. I was planning on moving to canada after I finish my school, because a lot of the white Canadians i've encountered were very friendly to me, compared to white trash americans.
B.ZhangMidshipman
QUOTE(KoreanaHoosierHahkseng @ Aug 12 2007, 09:34 AM) *
oh great! Just when I posted a thread on Chinese students getting attacked in New Zealand, I read that there's another attack on us Asian in Canada.

Damn. I was planning on moving to canada after I finish my school, because a lot of the white Canadians i've encountered were very friendly to me, compared to white trash americans.


Well describe the friendliness. Are you sure that they're friendly to you because they accept you, or do they act friendly to you to further their own interests. I'm not trying to offend you, I'm honestly serious about this question.

I once was also decieved by their friendly pretense until I clearly examined how they were deep down inside.

Many Asians still feel that "White-Trash" the dumb-Whiteys are the only ones who're racist towards non-Whites; but that viewpoint is dangerously naive. In truth the dumb-ones are the ones who can't keep their mouths shut, while the more intelligent ones do a very good job hiding their true inner-mentality from the public.
kaysea
QUOTE(moviez @ Aug 12 2007, 06:53 AM) *
Canada is not a good place for non-white especially Asians (Chinese) to live.


Have you actually been here?. Canada is a great place to live (far better than America).
ZenZasian
And Canada has some gay law to protect kids under 18 years of age. Which means if they commit a crime, they don't get prosecuted like adults and the media can't even report their name. So as long as you're under 18, you can literally get away with murder! Canada sucks!
http://www.acjnet.org/youthfaq/topiceng.html
Bulldogg
That's too bad, even though Canada is a great country, no doubt in my mind that its not as equal. Its all a lie when every single human being in North America are created equal, i just keep in mind that Canada & U.S.A still belongs to the British Empire. The money that we use in these 2 countries tell all also, the pictures on your dollar bills or coins are all Caucasians with British/Irish roots. Yet no Native Indians faces are on any of the money.
kaysea
QUOTE(ZenZasian @ Aug 12 2007, 01:26 PM) *
And Canada has some gay law to protect kids under 18 years of age. Which means if they commit a crime, they don't get prosecuted like adults and the media can't even report their name. So as long as you're under 18, you can literally get away with murder! Canada sucks!
http://www.acjnet.org/youthfaq/topiceng.html


... not really. it depends on the crime. If its serious enough and under right circumstances they will prosecuted as an adult. However, it's true if your underage no matter what crime you do your name will never appear in the media.
imtina
QUOTE(Jasel @ Aug 11 2007, 10:21 AM) *
Well there are alot of Asians who say they love living there.


I happen to be one of them.

Racial violence/skinheads are extremely rare in this country and when it does happen the police move quickly to apprehend the suspects. We had a racially motivated murder of a Native male last year in Alberta by a Korean guy, but all of this is quite rare. This contrasts with China where just last week police kicked a white male from Calgary in the head because a cabdriver says he was "ripped off by one of them". Very little recourse in that country from racial violence.
tung2sai
QUOTE(imtina @ Aug 12 2007, 05:41 PM) *
I happen to be one of them.

Racial violence/skinheads are extremely rare in this country and when it does happen the police move quickly to apprehend the suspects. We had a racially motivated murder of a Native male last year in Alberta by a Korean guy, but all of this is quite rare. This contrasts with China where just last week police kicked a white male from Calgary in the head because a cabdriver says he was "ripped off by one of them". Very little recourse in that country from racial violence.



are you serious?
What news site was that from?
For both incidents that is.
shangtsung
fu-king cowards with baseball bats.

I want to see those mother fu-kers confront me man to man.

All skinheads are pussy Nazi wannabes who amount to nothing. All a bunch of white trash foreskin headed pieces of subhuman $hit.

I wanna see those $hitheads come down to my neighbourhood, I'll fu-king shoot them all where they stand.
ZenZasian
QUOTE(imtina @ Aug 12 2007, 06:41 PM) *
I happen to be one of them.

Racial violence/skinheads are extremely rare in this country and when it does happen the police move quickly to apprehend the suspects. We had a racially motivated murder of a Native male last year in Alberta by a Korean guy, but all of this is quite rare. This contrasts with China where just last week police kicked a white male from Calgary in the head because a cabdriver says he was "ripped off by one of them". Very little recourse in that country from racial violence.


Why should skinheads bother you? You hate Chinese/Japanese/Koreans more than they do!
moobie
QUOTE
I happen to be one of them.

Racial violence/skinheads are extremely rare in this country and when it does happen the police move quickly to apprehend the suspects. We had a racially motivated murder of a Native male last year in Alberta by a Korean guy, but all of this is quite rare. This contrasts with China where just last week police kicked a white male from Calgary in the head because a cabdriver says he was "ripped off by one of them". Very little recourse in that country from racial violence.


Cry more. Whites are given special treatment in China, if one of them gets kicked in the head it's nothing compared to how much asskissing they get afterwards.

I'm glad you don't know anything about the Chinese being attacked in Chinatown by white kids "for the Korean war" or Vincent Chin, or the Nakashima family.
moviez
QUOTE(imtina @ Aug 12 2007, 06:41 PM) *
I happen to be one of them.

Racial violence/skinheads are extremely rare in this country and when it does happen the police move quickly to apprehend the suspects. We had a racially motivated murder of a Native male last year in Alberta by a Korean guy, but all of this is quite rare. This contrasts with China where just last week police kicked a white male from Calgary in the head because a cabdriver says he was "ripped off by one of them". Very little recourse in that country from racial violence.



A Webography: The History of Racism in Canada
http://www.hopesite.ca/remember/history/racism_canada_1.html

RACISM IN CANADA
http://www.debwewin.ca/racism.htm


QUOTE(catman @ Aug 12 2007, 11:49 AM) *
Just curious what you are basing this on? Hate crime laws have been taken very seriously here in the past decade.


Many many cases of hate crime were just ignored by the Police. The media only show the public of cases of hate crime where the Jews are the victims. Sometimes when money is the main issue then the Canadian police pretends that they take hate crimes against Asians very seriously. An example would be the Chinese Visa students that were attacked by skinheads in NB.

QUOTE(KoreanaHoosierHahkseng @ Aug 12 2007, 12:34 PM) *
oh great! Just when I posted a thread on Chinese students getting attacked in New Zealand, I read that there's another attack on us Asian in Canada.

Damn. I was planning on moving to canada after I finish my school, because a lot of the white Canadians i've encountered were very friendly to me, compared to white trash americans.


Japanese are "friendly" on the outside too. They keep bowing to everyone. Are they actually friendly ?


QUOTE(kaysea @ Aug 12 2007, 01:01 PM) *
Have you actually been here?. Canada is a great place to live (far better than America).


Even if Canada is batter than USA, it still doesn't make it a great place for Asians to live.


QUOTE(imtina @ Aug 12 2007, 06:41 PM) *
This contrasts with China where just last week police kicked a white male from Calgary in the head because a cabdriver says he was "ripped off by one of them". Very little recourse in that country from racial violence.


Provide a weblink to the story you are talking about above.
catman
QUOTE
I once was also decieved by their friendly pretense until I clearly examined how they were deep down inside.


When I was in Asia I would often hear ex-pats complaining about their residing country. When I told them about how friendly people were to me they would rattle off the same excuse "Oh they're just being friendly to your face but they really hate you and will stab you in the back!"
B.ZhangMidshipman
QUOTE(catman @ Aug 13 2007, 07:56 AM) *
When I was in Asia I would often hear ex-pats complaining about their residing country. When I told them about how friendly people were to me they would rattle off the same excuse "Oh they're just being friendly to your face but they really hate you and will stab you in the back!"


An excuse for what???

Maybe that was their observation, and why do you call that an excuse???

Please explain???
mahbrum
Yes, there is racism in Canada, but it's covert and serreptitious. But, there are truly some good white people here too, depends on where you are. I just try to keep an open mind, but I'm still jaded though.

White people will have to be more respectful to gain my trust though. I would say that most of my white friends are pretty good. Some others are latent or ignorant rednecks.

I was in a 12-step group where it's supposed to be supportive and I heard "Ch***man". I spoke up after the person finished their spiel and said something about keeping their racist comments to themselves. One white lady said she would have spoken up too, if I hadn't, however, I'll believe it when I hear it though.
MiCC
i wonder if those news reached to the chinese people through 163.com or qq.com
kimuchi
I agree there is still racism towards Chinese especially newer generations. have you watch the skinheads in Russia? it's real bad there.
B.ZhangMidshipman
QUOTE(kimuchi @ Aug 13 2007, 07:01 PM) *
I agree there is still racism towards Chinese especially newer generations. have you watch the skinheads in Russia? it's real bad there.


I've posted dozens of videos here pertaining to that.
ham_let
QUOTE(moviez @ Aug 13 2007, 07:38 AM) *
We get that $hit shoved down our throats in history class. Most Canadians are aware of how fu-ked up the system was, especially around WWII. Canada has gone a long way since then.

QUOTE
Many many cases of hate crime were just ignored by the Police. The media only show the public of cases of hate crime where the Jews are the victims. Sometimes when money is the main issue then the Canadian police pretends that they take hate crimes against Asians very seriously. An example would be the Chinese Visa students that were attacked by skinheads in NB.

Unless you live in Canada and know people who have been victims of hate crimes, I suggest you stop lying. embarassedlaugh.gif Obviously there are racial insults thrown around in bar fights and whatnot, but what does that even matter? Asians don't even get into bar fights. LOL. You act like there are tons of Canadians with baseball bats marching through town to kill chínks. When Chinese people get stabbed around here, it's usually because of other Chinese people.

QUOTE
Even if Canada is batter than USA, it still doesn't make it a great place for Asians to live.

I'll tell you one thing, it sure as hell's a better place for a Chinese person to live than China. icon_rolleyes.gif
B.ZhangMidshipman
QUOTE(kimuchi @ Aug 13 2007, 07:01 PM) *
I agree there is still racism towards Chinese especially newer generations. have you watch the skinheads in Russia? it's real bad there.



Here are some videos on that which I've already posted multiple times here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUvKh4_1lN0

This video, in particular sickens me. Especially the part where they burn passports.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8szQM9Pdyk0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5IknbZ7fcI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raJXkYASikQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrQ0RX2UTuo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRScPVDSD6k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA1xLSIsfe0

http://www.finalsolution88.com/Videos/ChineseBashing1.wmv

http://www.finalsolution88.com/Videos/FS88...nalist_Vol9.wmv

http://www.finalsolution88.com/Videos/FS88...ssian_pride.wmv



More reasons why Asians need to stop relying on Russia for Military purposes.

Something that I find really pathetic is how many Asians actually believe that these Russian-Nazi's are exclusively targetting Chinese. I'm not saying that's what you meant to say kimuchi, you may have just accidentally wrote your post in a misleading way; but there are Asians who genuinely believe that Chinese people are exclusively targetted by those Ruskies.
grimfan
QUOTE
That's too bad, even though Canada is a great country, no doubt in my mind that its not as equal. Its all a lie when every single human being in North America are created equal, i just keep in mind that Canada & U.S.A still belongs to the British Empire. The money that we use in these 2 countries tell all also, the pictures on your dollar bills or coins are all Caucasians with British/Irish roots. Yet no Native Indians faces are on any of the money.


You ignorant and insecure Asian.

Firstly, Americans are not part of the British Empire. That's what the American War of INDEPENDENCE was all about. Tell any American that they're still British subjects and you will probably get your @$$ beat down. In the current geopolitical climate, I think it's more accurate to say that Britain is part of the American Empire.

Also, Irish immigrants were heavily persecuted when they came to American shores during the mid-1800's. I can assure you that there are no O'Flahertys or O'Briens adorning the dollar bills of America. Also, all of the Founding Fathers were of Protestant background, which meant that they were prejudiced against Catholics.

While I won't try and pretend that the Americans have been in any way fair to the Native Americans, people like Sitting Bull, Crazy Horse, Pocahontas, and Sacagawea are given prominent places in American folklore, and are regarded as heroic figures. in fact, Sacagawea had her own dollar for a while, and Crazy Horse is going to have a massive monument built in his favour.
moviez
QUOTE(ham_let @ Aug 14 2007, 01:28 AM) *
Unless you live in Canada and know people who have been victims of hate crimes, I suggest you stop lying. embarassedlaugh.gif Obviously


.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2009 Invision Power Services, Inc.