I wonder why ? My utmost respect to the government as well as the singaporeans. In almost all of her neighbouring countries, if one is caught for over speeding / double parking, it is almost always able to "settle" with the police but if one were to do so in Singapore, he will probably be scolded, given a stern warning and maybe even be apprehended.

Many say that it's because government servants of Singapore receive better pay than their neighbouring counterparts. Personally i don't think this is the case , as nobody is satisfy with the amount of money he/she has. So i think maybe it is because of their upbringing, constant brainstorming by the government.

How do you know there is no 'soft' bribery in the system? meaning, if u know someone, they can pull strings for u to get things done faster..? for example, there's been a few high profile cases of road rage offenders who got off lightly with just a fine instead of a jail sentence just because they happen to be 'connected' to the elites.. come on... are we that clean? bleh... i dont believe it!

Well...I wouldnt say SIngapore has eradicated bribery....its just that when compared to all the other countries, we look like angels!! haha!!!

But yeah...its quite hard to talk your way out of a ticket with the Singapore traffic police....My friends always try all the time..but they dont budge...they'd just start nagging more and more....
as for why are they so hard to budge?!?! I dunno.for the guys, it might have something to do with what they were taught when they were in NS.....
the pay might be another factor...If u exceed your quota needed, u get more money?!?! so maybe thats why they like to give out tics???

but yeah...its like so easy to get out of a ticket in msia or indonesia...not just through money..but through sweet talk, crocodile tears..that sorta thing....over here if any girl gets pulled over, we'd just start crying crocodile tears and hopefully they will let you off...Dont try to pay them off though!!!EVER!!!! It could have consequences!
haha....

I know there is still "soft bribery" like what you said. No country is able eradicate corruption 100& but the level that what Singapore has achieved is very commendable especially compare the her neighbouring countries where it has become like a way of life ( nobody is afraid / embarass to offer and nobody is afraid / embarass to receive )

I personally believe the answer is simple. Its the will of the people and the govnt. I can only speak of Malaysia but in my opinion Malaysians generally are more concerned about race in politics. As such they don't hold the govnt accountable who then are free to interfere with the police and judiciary system. What can the govnt say to the lowly traffic officer when everybody knows that the govnt themselves is corrupted.

well put it this way....corruption/bribery happens everywhere....its how you define it....even a cup of coffee is view differently by some quarters. Sometime it becomes a norm till you dunno what is wrong and what is right and become a way of life

In SG...well..... the monkeys who live in mushrooms failed to see what their the managers are doing up there. The managers on the other hand tries very hard to give fellow monkeys to believe that they are clean

I agree that some definitions of corruption are blurry but I think that a police officer asking for money in return for looking the other way for a speeding infrigenment is a very clear definition of corruption. What about the civil servent or politician recieving benefits form a private company in return for a contract or political decision going their way. Or the awarding of contracts to "mates" of the govnt. I agree though that in Malaysia, corruption is so ingrained in the culture that people rarely blink an eyelid when the police or politician are caught for corruption.

Conversly in Singapore corruption is much less tolerated. Try offering a police officer in Singapore money to look the other way if you are caught speeding and see what happens.

the authority in Malaysia mostly go after the "small" cases of corruption, those involved in "big cases" are often not caught and even if they got caught, no worry, continue to bribe the investigators, prosecutors and they'll be able to walk away free.

I think it's a combo of reasons:
-good wages/salaries
-when the gov't was first established, bribery was not tolerated so a "culture" of bribery could not be established.
-it might be cheaper to just pay the fine than bribe a law enforcement officer.
-constant "propaganda" by the gov't
-respect for the gov't and law and order compared to other nations

Do people get tickets often in Singapore? I never heard anyone really complain much. . .

For me the reason was:
-Singapore have enough officer
-Got paid what they deserved
-Afraid of their boss =>> LKY maybe
-So small and island. Nobody can running from the law.
-They practice good gorvanance themself
-They didn't want to ruin their country

I don't think wages is an issue. I don't believe that the Singapore police earn significantly and relatively more then their Malaysian counterparts. Recently the Malaysian govnt announced a large pay increase for the Police force, we'll see what happens. I personally believe that corruption is about will. In Malaysia, the police are not held accountable by the govnt and the govnt is not held accountable by the people becasue people see other things as being more important ie race and religion. How many people protested when the department to monitor police corruption was found to be corrupted, and how many people protested over the Lina Joy case.

Believe me, money always a problem and source of the problem.

Between Malaysia and Singapore, Singapore law and order is far more superior than Malaysia chaos and disorder.

The issue is that you can never be rich enough, there is always a bigger house to buy a better car to buy. All the police officers earn enough to put a roof over their heads and food on the table. The issue is not money, its greed. And besides, if you want a better income work harder to improve yourself.

yup thats so true.. comparing malaysia and singapore is stupid its like comparing a family with 5 children and a family with 1 children.. just tell me which one is easier to manage?? that is clearly a dumb question..

size is irrelevant, yes , there are more people but there are also more personnels to uphold the law, in some countries, the very persons who are given the tasks to eradicate corruption are themselves corrupted, you see size really does not matter.

size matters for good governance.. having more personnels wont change a thing because we are dealing with corruption.

key points to eradicate corruption:

1) salary
2) moral principle/religious
3) law enforcement

In Malaysia, salary has nothing to do with corruption, now that all govnt servants including the police have recieved significant pay increases, do you think the corruption will go away, highly unlikely I think.

Principle yes, religion I'm not so sure.

^ I dunno why you still talking about Malaysia here since we're in Singapore Chat.

bro biasa la...orang singapore always talk about other people when they dun have the balls to look at their backyard

I don't suppose getting caught on CCTV while taking a bribe is a very fun prospect either

I don't suppose getting caught on CCTV while taking a bribe is a very fun prospect either


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Because the starter of the topic was comparing Singapore to her neighbours, Malaysia is her neighbour. I've never been to Indoneisa so I can't make a comparison to Indonesia but I have been to Malaysia and therefore can make a comparison with Malaysia, as you have also done. And the reality is that there is less corruption in Singapore compared to her neighbours, Malaysia included.

I don't think this is true in this topic anyway.

I believe bribery is greatly reduced based on the salary package + tough penalties.. if you are smart enough to balance the risk & gains.. what you get from the bribe vs the losts to your job of higher income + the penalty..

unless you can bribe the traffic police the amount $ that you will use to bribe some "high profile cases" allowing the policeman to retire & migrate to canada.. maybe it will work.. haha.. but you would be stupid enough..

that's institutionalised bribery, when u pay too much in salaries and perks to the ministers, they will never want to leave their friggin jobs!

In Singapore case, the govt made it look that there is no bribery or fraud or croynism or whatever..... Which country is run by a family business ever?? Think about it....mushrooms out there!!

But when the govt bank in directly to your POSB as the election carrot......that is the government's bonus to you??....what does it say then. A malaysian friend used to say that......in malaysia we had to hide giving bribes and all that.....in singapore, your govt officially annouced it and put directly to your bank account......beat that man