Indian visitors attacked in Eastern Germany
By Judy Dempsey
Published: August 20, 2007
BERLIN: Dozens of young Germans attacked a group of Indian visitors to a village in the eastern state of Saxony over the weekend, chasing them through the streets and smashing up the restaurant where the Indians had taken refuge, the local police confirmed Monday.
The incident, which took place Saturday in Mügeln, about 45 kilometers, or 28 miles, east of Leipzig, was witnessed by a large crowd, which apparently did not take any action to stop the attack against the eight Indians. The Saxony police did not release news of the attack until late Sunday. "We are not ruling out a xenophobic motive," said the police chief of Saxony, Bernd Merbitz.
Saxony has a small but growing far-right movement that supports the National Democratic Party. The party has been represented in the regional legislature since the 2005 elections. Brandenburg, another eastern state, also has a far-right movement that is represented in the regional legislature.
According to the police in Saxony, more than 70 police officers were needed to stop the violence. In addition to the Indians, four Germans, including two police officers, were injured. Other details about the Indians were not immediately available. The authorities have called for an investigation. As yet, there have been no arrests.
The cause of the attack on the Indians, who had been invited to a festival, is unclear. Late Saturday, a scuffle broke out in the festival tent and about 50 youths chased the eight Indians, chanting racist slogans, according to the Leipziger Volkszeitung, a regional newspaper. Reinhard Bottcher, chief of the local police, said he could not confirm whether the mob had shouted racist insults.
When the Indians fled to a pizzeria, the Germans smashed windowpanes and damaged the pizzeria owner's car. "If the police had not come, something much worse might have happened," the Leipziger Volkszeitung quoted the owner as saying.
Gotthard Deuse, mayor of Mügeln, was quoted by the paper as saying that the incident had been racially motivated and that rightist slogans had been chanted. Bottcher said he thought alcohol might have played a role.
There is growing concern on the part of some German politicians about the increasing number of attacks by rightists. Two months ago, some actors were beaten by skinheads in Brandenburg, an incident in which the police were sharply criticized for not having responded quickly enough.
During a debate in May in the Bundestag, the lower house of Parliament, politicians called on Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition government of conservatives and Social Democrats to do more to curb extremism. The debate coincided with a similar debate in Saxony's regional legislature after Holger Apfel, a legislator belonging to the National Democratic Party, vented racist insults against foreigners.
Source - http://www.iht.com
Full Version: Race attack in Germany
Around 8 Indians where chased by violent mob of 50 Neo Nazis through the city of Mügeln in East Germany and beaten up. Slogans like “Ausländer raus!!!” which means foreigners out!!! where being shouted as many people watched and might have even applauded as the mob was beating the crap out of the 8 Indians.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,500964,00.html
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/0,1518,500964,00.html
Not that Germany has ever been a tolerant place......
I thought Nazism died out in Germany... well, I guess I was wrong.
*takes out Thompson*
*puffs cigar*
Come on Zulu, we've got a job to do.
*puffs cigar*
Come on Zulu, we've got a job to do.
QUOTE(Suijen @ Aug 25 2007, 02:48 AM) 
*takes out Thompson*
*puffs cigar*
Come on Zulu, we've got a job to do.
*puffs cigar*
Come on Zulu, we've got a job to do.
Yeah in Band of Brothers.
QUOTE(Suijen @ Aug 24 2007, 10:18 PM)
*takes out Thompson*
*puffs cigar*
Come on Zulu, we've got a job to do.
*puffs cigar*
Come on Zulu, we've got a job to do.
*Takes out Iron Blaster*
*Bites into a Krisky Kreme donut*
Long time no see, Sergeant Pathos Maloy.
It's about time we get back to killing those damn Jerries before they rise back into power...
Racism against Sikhs :
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US Sikh organizations have expressed anger over changes allowing airport security staff to ''pat down'' turbans in US Airports
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/17991.asp
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/17991.asp
Them Neo-Nazis are probably the stupidest people on earth. They just beat up their fellow Aryan. The word Aryan itself is Sanskrit in origin. Fukking inbred fukks. Euthanizing them is the most humane thing we could do for those animals.
QUOTE(Hensoldt @ Aug 28 2007, 06:01 PM)
Them Neo-Nazis are probably the stupidest people on earth. They just beat up their fellow Aryan. The word Aryan itself is Sanskrit in origin. Fukking inbred fukks. Euthanizing them is the most humane thing we could do for those animals.
Europeans were never "Aryans" to begin with. The word "Aryan" never even existed in any ancient or pre-historic European cultures. The word "Aryan" was always used to refer to the Indo-Iranian languages (Aryan means "noble" in Sanskrit and Persian). As if it was bad enough that the Neo-Nazis stole the Aryan word and Swastika sign from India, they've even started attacking the very people they've borrowed them from (Indians). Humans are such an ungrateful species.
RACISM ALIVE AND WELL
After Attack on Indians, Germany Fears For its Reputation
Three days after eight Indian men were attacked, injured and chased through an Eastern German town by a mob while the townsfolk looked on, Germany is worried that this latest incident will hurt its image abroad and scare off foreign investors.
The Indian government has demanded a rigorous investigation into the attack on eight Indian men (more...) by a mob of at least 50 Germans shouting "Foreigners out" in the eastern German town of Mügeln, near the city of Leipzig, on Saturday night.
"We expect the culprits to be caught quickly," India's ambassador to Germany, Meera Shankar, told Berliner Zeitungnewspaper. Earlier she asked the German government "to take measures to tackle this issue and prevent such events from occurring in the future," a spokesman for the Indian foreign ministry said.
The attack has triggered fresh public debate about far-right extremism in the formerly communist east of Germany, which has seen a string of racist assaults since unification in 1990. Politicians and business leaders have expressed concern that the country's reputation abroad may have been hurt and that foreign investors be deterred from coming to Germany.
Wolfgang Thierse, Social Democrat vice president of the Bundestag lower house of parliament, said: "The worse Germany's reputation becomes, the fewer people who we need for our progress and prosperity will come here," Thierse told Berliner Zeitung.
German parliamentarian Sebastian Edathy, who heads the Bundestag's domestic affairs committee, said: "People of dark skin color are far more likely to become the victim of an assault in Eastern Germany than they are in Western Germany."
The eight men were attacked by a mob of around 50 Germans at a street festival in the early hours of Sunday in the small town of Mügeln in the Eeastern German state of Saxony. The trigger for the violence was a brawl on the dance floor in a party tent shortly before 1 a.m., police said. The reason for the brawl was not yet clear.
The Indians left the tent where the dance was being held but were then attacked by a number of Germans who chased them across the town's market place until they took shelter in a pizzeria run by an Indian. The owner let them in, but the mob tried to kick in the doors of the restaurants as a large crowd looked on. The restaurant owner's car was also seriously damaged.
Police arrived in force after one of the men called them from inside the restaurant, and the mayor of Mügeln, Gotthard Deuse, has been criticised for claiming that the attack wasn't racially motivated. Local business leaders were also shocked at the incident, which has drawn nationwide media coverage.
"These events don't just cast a negative light on Leipzig as a business location, but also on Saxony and the whole of Eastern Germany," said Thomas Hofmann, head of Leipzig's chamber of commerce. He said Germany's economy would be hurt if the country doesn't get to grips with the racist attacks.
"This applies to foreign investors who are already active here and potential investors who are still deciding where to invest," said Hofmann.
Anti-neo-Nazi protestors on Tuesday responded to the attacks in Mügeln: "Stop the Nazi Terror!"
The Central Council of Jews in Germany accused the government of lacking a national plan of action to combat the far right. Stephan Kramer, general secretary of the Council, said foreigners were evidently in danger in the east of the country. "They should be warned not to live in certain regions and towns of Eastern Germany," he told Netzeitung. "That not hysteria, that's a bitter fact," he said. "Yesterday it was colored people, today it's foreigners, tomorrow it will be lesbians or homosexuals or perhaps Jews."
Georg Milbradt, the conservative mayor of Saxony, where Mügeln is located, denied that the region was a no-go zone for foreigners. "We should wait for the results of the investigation into what happened in Mügeln," he told SPIEGEL ONLINE. "Of course one mustn't play down such events but one shouldn't immediately label every dispute between Germans and foreigners as xenophobia."
No one has been charged with the attack so far. Some 200 left-wing radicals demonstrated against the far right in Mügeln on Tuesday.
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Source - http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,501352,00.html
After Attack on Indians, Germany Fears For its Reputation
Three days after eight Indian men were attacked, injured and chased through an Eastern German town by a mob while the townsfolk looked on, Germany is worried that this latest incident will hurt its image abroad and scare off foreign investors.
The Indian government has demanded a rigorous investigation into the attack on eight Indian men (more...) by a mob of at least 50 Germans shouting "Foreigners out" in the eastern German town of Mügeln, near the city of Leipzig, on Saturday night.
"We expect the culprits to be caught quickly," India's ambassador to Germany, Meera Shankar, told Berliner Zeitungnewspaper. Earlier she asked the German government "to take measures to tackle this issue and prevent such events from occurring in the future," a spokesman for the Indian foreign ministry said.
The attack has triggered fresh public debate about far-right extremism in the formerly communist east of Germany, which has seen a string of racist assaults since unification in 1990. Politicians and business leaders have expressed concern that the country's reputation abroad may have been hurt and that foreign investors be deterred from coming to Germany.
Wolfgang Thierse, Social Democrat vice president of the Bundestag lower house of parliament, said: "The worse Germany's reputation becomes, the fewer people who we need for our progress and prosperity will come here," Thierse told Berliner Zeitung.
German parliamentarian Sebastian Edathy, who heads the Bundestag's domestic affairs committee, said: "People of dark skin color are far more likely to become the victim of an assault in Eastern Germany than they are in Western Germany."
The eight men were attacked by a mob of around 50 Germans at a street festival in the early hours of Sunday in the small town of Mügeln in the Eeastern German state of Saxony. The trigger for the violence was a brawl on the dance floor in a party tent shortly before 1 a.m., police said. The reason for the brawl was not yet clear.
The Indians left the tent where the dance was being held but were then attacked by a number of Germans who chased them across the town's market place until they took shelter in a pizzeria run by an Indian. The owner let them in, but the mob tried to kick in the doors of the restaurants as a large crowd looked on. The restaurant owner's car was also seriously damaged.
Police arrived in force after one of the men called them from inside the restaurant, and the mayor of Mügeln, Gotthard Deuse, has been criticised for claiming that the attack wasn't racially motivated. Local business leaders were also shocked at the incident, which has drawn nationwide media coverage.
"These events don't just cast a negative light on Leipzig as a business location, but also on Saxony and the whole of Eastern Germany," said Thomas Hofmann, head of Leipzig's chamber of commerce. He said Germany's economy would be hurt if the country doesn't get to grips with the racist attacks.
"This applies to foreign investors who are already active here and potential investors who are still deciding where to invest," said Hofmann.
Anti-neo-Nazi protestors on Tuesday responded to the attacks in Mügeln: "Stop the Nazi Terror!"
The Central Council of Jews in Germany accused the government of lacking a national plan of action to combat the far right. Stephan Kramer, general secretary of the Council, said foreigners were evidently in danger in the east of the country. "They should be warned not to live in certain regions and towns of Eastern Germany," he told Netzeitung. "That not hysteria, that's a bitter fact," he said. "Yesterday it was colored people, today it's foreigners, tomorrow it will be lesbians or homosexuals or perhaps Jews."
Georg Milbradt, the conservative mayor of Saxony, where Mügeln is located, denied that the region was a no-go zone for foreigners. "We should wait for the results of the investigation into what happened in Mügeln," he told SPIEGEL ONLINE. "Of course one mustn't play down such events but one shouldn't immediately label every dispute between Germans and foreigners as xenophobia."
No one has been charged with the attack so far. Some 200 left-wing radicals demonstrated against the far right in Mügeln on Tuesday.
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Source - http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,501352,00.html
When's the last time Germans were beaten in other countries?
Maybe they're asking to get what they deserve for Nazism.
Maybe they're asking to get what they deserve for Nazism.
QUOTE(Hensoldt @ Aug 29 2007, 01:01 AM)
Them Neo-Nazis are probably the stupidest people on earth. They just beat up their fellow Aryan. The word Aryan itself is Sanskrit in origin. Fukking inbred fukks. Euthanizing them is the most humane thing we could do for those animals.
hmmm..getting confused now....
I know for a fact that neo-nazis are not Aryan.
You should be referring to indo_iranians???
QUOTE(moobie @ Oct 11 2007, 05:09 PM)
When's the last time Germans were beaten in other countries?
Maybe they're asking to get what they deserve for Nazism.
Maybe they're asking to get what they deserve for Nazism.
Cos maybe they just dont go anywhere where they could be beaten up...
QUOTE(VAMAN @ Oct 9 2007, 03:37 AM)
RACISM ALIVE AND WELL
After Attack on Indians, Germany Fears For its Reputation
Three days after eight Indian men were attacked, injured and chased through an Eastern German town by a mob while the townsfolk looked on, Germany is worried that this latest incident will hurt its image abroad and scare off foreign investors.
The Indian government has demanded a rigorous investigation into the attack on eight Indian men (more...) by a mob of at least 50 Germans shouting "Foreigners out" in the eastern German town of Mügeln, near the city of Leipzig, on Saturday night.
"We expect the culprits to be caught quickly," India's ambassador to Germany, Meera Shankar, told Berliner Zeitungnewspaper. Earlier she asked the German government "to take measures to tackle this issue and prevent such events from occurring in the future," a spokesman for the Indian foreign ministry said.
The attack has triggered fresh public debate about far-right extremism in the formerly communist east of Germany, which has seen a string of racist assaults since unification in 1990. Politicians and business leaders have expressed concern that the country's reputation abroad may have been hurt and that foreign investors be deterred from coming to Germany.
Wolfgang Thierse, Social Democrat vice president of the Bundestag lower house of parliament, said: "The worse Germany's reputation becomes, the fewer people who we need for our progress and prosperity will come here," Thierse told Berliner Zeitung.
German parliamentarian Sebastian Edathy, who heads the Bundestag's domestic affairs committee, said: "People of dark skin color are far more likely to become the victim of an assault in Eastern Germany than they are in Western Germany."
The eight men were attacked by a mob of around 50 Germans at a street festival in the early hours of Sunday in the small town of Mügeln in the Eeastern German state of Saxony. The trigger for the violence was a brawl on the dance floor in a party tent shortly before 1 a.m., police said. The reason for the brawl was not yet clear.
The Indians left the tent where the dance was being held but were then attacked by a number of Germans who chased them across the town's market place until they took shelter in a pizzeria run by an Indian. The owner let them in, but the mob tried to kick in the doors of the restaurants as a large crowd looked on. The restaurant owner's car was also seriously damaged.
Police arrived in force after one of the men called them from inside the restaurant, and the mayor of Mügeln, Gotthard Deuse, has been criticised for claiming that the attack wasn't racially motivated. Local business leaders were also shocked at the incident, which has drawn nationwide media coverage.
"These events don't just cast a negative light on Leipzig as a business location, but also on Saxony and the whole of Eastern Germany," said Thomas Hofmann, head of Leipzig's chamber of commerce. He said Germany's economy would be hurt if the country doesn't get to grips with the racist attacks.
"This applies to foreign investors who are already active here and potential investors who are still deciding where to invest," said Hofmann.
Anti-neo-Nazi protestors on Tuesday responded to the attacks in Mügeln: "Stop the Nazi Terror!"
The Central Council of Jews in Germany accused the government of lacking a national plan of action to combat the far right. Stephan Kramer, general secretary of the Council, said foreigners were evidently in danger in the east of the country. "They should be warned not to live in certain regions and towns of Eastern Germany," he told Netzeitung. "That not hysteria, that's a bitter fact," he said. "Yesterday it was colored people, today it's foreigners, tomorrow it will be lesbians or homosexuals or perhaps Jews."
Georg Milbradt, the conservative mayor of Saxony, where Mügeln is located, denied that the region was a no-go zone for foreigners. "We should wait for the results of the investigation into what happened in Mügeln," he told SPIEGEL ONLINE. "Of course one mustn't play down such events but one shouldn't immediately label every dispute between Germans and foreigners as xenophobia."
No one has been charged with the attack so far. Some 200 left-wing radicals demonstrated against the far right in Mügeln on Tuesday.
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Source - http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,501352,00.html
After Attack on Indians, Germany Fears For its Reputation
Three days after eight Indian men were attacked, injured and chased through an Eastern German town by a mob while the townsfolk looked on, Germany is worried that this latest incident will hurt its image abroad and scare off foreign investors.
The Indian government has demanded a rigorous investigation into the attack on eight Indian men (more...) by a mob of at least 50 Germans shouting "Foreigners out" in the eastern German town of Mügeln, near the city of Leipzig, on Saturday night.
"We expect the culprits to be caught quickly," India's ambassador to Germany, Meera Shankar, told Berliner Zeitungnewspaper. Earlier she asked the German government "to take measures to tackle this issue and prevent such events from occurring in the future," a spokesman for the Indian foreign ministry said.
The attack has triggered fresh public debate about far-right extremism in the formerly communist east of Germany, which has seen a string of racist assaults since unification in 1990. Politicians and business leaders have expressed concern that the country's reputation abroad may have been hurt and that foreign investors be deterred from coming to Germany.
Wolfgang Thierse, Social Democrat vice president of the Bundestag lower house of parliament, said: "The worse Germany's reputation becomes, the fewer people who we need for our progress and prosperity will come here," Thierse told Berliner Zeitung.
German parliamentarian Sebastian Edathy, who heads the Bundestag's domestic affairs committee, said: "People of dark skin color are far more likely to become the victim of an assault in Eastern Germany than they are in Western Germany."
The eight men were attacked by a mob of around 50 Germans at a street festival in the early hours of Sunday in the small town of Mügeln in the Eeastern German state of Saxony. The trigger for the violence was a brawl on the dance floor in a party tent shortly before 1 a.m., police said. The reason for the brawl was not yet clear.
The Indians left the tent where the dance was being held but were then attacked by a number of Germans who chased them across the town's market place until they took shelter in a pizzeria run by an Indian. The owner let them in, but the mob tried to kick in the doors of the restaurants as a large crowd looked on. The restaurant owner's car was also seriously damaged.
Police arrived in force after one of the men called them from inside the restaurant, and the mayor of Mügeln, Gotthard Deuse, has been criticised for claiming that the attack wasn't racially motivated. Local business leaders were also shocked at the incident, which has drawn nationwide media coverage.
"These events don't just cast a negative light on Leipzig as a business location, but also on Saxony and the whole of Eastern Germany," said Thomas Hofmann, head of Leipzig's chamber of commerce. He said Germany's economy would be hurt if the country doesn't get to grips with the racist attacks.
"This applies to foreign investors who are already active here and potential investors who are still deciding where to invest," said Hofmann.
Anti-neo-Nazi protestors on Tuesday responded to the attacks in Mügeln: "Stop the Nazi Terror!"
The Central Council of Jews in Germany accused the government of lacking a national plan of action to combat the far right. Stephan Kramer, general secretary of the Council, said foreigners were evidently in danger in the east of the country. "They should be warned not to live in certain regions and towns of Eastern Germany," he told Netzeitung. "That not hysteria, that's a bitter fact," he said. "Yesterday it was colored people, today it's foreigners, tomorrow it will be lesbians or homosexuals or perhaps Jews."
Georg Milbradt, the conservative mayor of Saxony, where Mügeln is located, denied that the region was a no-go zone for foreigners. "We should wait for the results of the investigation into what happened in Mügeln," he told SPIEGEL ONLINE. "Of course one mustn't play down such events but one shouldn't immediately label every dispute between Germans and foreigners as xenophobia."
No one has been charged with the attack so far. Some 200 left-wing radicals demonstrated against the far right in Mügeln on Tuesday.
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Source - http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,501352,00.html
LMAO, I just underlined the 2 most important parts of the whole article: Germans are indeed worried about their reputation and a decrease number of foreign investors; but do they even give a dame fu-k about the lives and well-beings of foreigners. The part of about the townspeople looking onwards and doing nothing sure shows us that they don't.
Of course now the descedents of Hitler's S.S. will start spitting out bull$hit, trying to tell us that they care after some of them reads what I have to say about this. Just hope you guys will keep in mind that if it wasn't for their reputation, public image, and all the economic benefits that comes along with it, the Germans would walk by the site of you getting your skulls crushed and laugh.
QUOTE(GreyFox @ Dec 27 2007, 11:18 PM)
LMAO, I just underlined the 2 most important parts of the whole article: Germans are indeed worried about their reputation and a decrease number of foreign investors; but do they even give a dame fu-k about the lives and well-beings of foreigners. The part of about the townspeople looking onwards and doing nothing sure shows us that they don't.
Of course now the descedents of Hitler's S.S. will start spitting out bull$hit, trying to tell us that they care after some of them reads what I have to say about this. Just hope you guys will keep in mind that if it wasn't for their reputation, public image, and all the economic benefits that comes along with it, the Germans would walk by the site of you getting your skulls crushed and laugh.
Of course now the descedents of Hitler's S.S. will start spitting out bull$hit, trying to tell us that they care after some of them reads what I have to say about this. Just hope you guys will keep in mind that if it wasn't for their reputation, public image, and all the economic benefits that comes along with it, the Germans would walk by the site of you getting your skulls crushed and laugh.
A very valid point you have made. Sad but your post holds a lot of truth.
QUOTE(VAMAN @ Dec 27 2007, 01:11 PM)
A very valid point you have made. Sad but your post holds a lot of truth.
If that's something new that you've just now learned, then I hope that you'll keep it in your head from now on and start living a little differently now in regards to what you've just learned. Too many people these days will learn new things that may be vital for their everyday lives only to forget them rather than acting upon their newly acquired knowledge.
QUOTE(VAMAN @ Aug 24 2007, 03:52 AM)
Indian visitors attacked in Eastern Germany
By Judy Dempsey
Published: August 20, 2007
BERLIN: Dozens of young Germans attacked a group of Indian visitors to a village in the eastern state of Saxony over the weekend, chasing them through the streets and smashing up the restaurant where the Indians had taken refuge, the local police confirmed Monday.
The incident, which took place Saturday in Mügeln, about 45 kilometers, or 28 miles, east of Leipzig, was witnessed by a large crowd, which apparently did not take any action to stop the attack against the eight Indians. The Saxony police did not release news of the attack until late Sunday. "We are not ruling out a xenophobic motive," said the police chief of Saxony, Bernd Merbitz.
Saxony has a small but growing far-right movement that supports the National Democratic Party. The party has been represented in the regional legislature since the 2005 elections. Brandenburg, another eastern state, also has a far-right movement that is represented in the regional legislature.
According to the police in Saxony, more than 70 police officers were needed to stop the violence. In addition to the Indians, four Germans, including two police officers, were injured. Other details about the Indians were not immediately available. The authorities have called for an investigation. As yet, there have been no arrests.
The cause of the attack on the Indians, who had been invited to a festival, is unclear. Late Saturday, a scuffle broke out in the festival tent and about 50 youths chased the eight Indians, chanting racist slogans, according to the Leipziger Volkszeitung, a regional newspaper. Reinhard Bottcher, chief of the local police, said he could not confirm whether the mob had shouted racist insults.
When the Indians fled to a pizzeria, the Germans smashed windowpanes and damaged the pizzeria owner's car. "If the police had not come, something much worse might have happened," the Leipziger Volkszeitung quoted the owner as saying.
Gotthard Deuse, mayor of Mügeln, was quoted by the paper as saying that the incident had been racially motivated and that rightist slogans had been chanted. Bottcher said he thought alcohol might have played a role.
There is growing concern on the part of some German politicians about the increasing number of attacks by rightists. Two months ago, some actors were beaten by skinheads in Brandenburg, an incident in which the police were sharply criticized for not having responded quickly enough.
During a debate in May in the Bundestag, the lower house of Parliament, politicians called on Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition government of conservatives and Social Democrats to do more to curb extremism. The debate coincided with a similar debate in Saxony's regional legislature after Holger Apfel, a legislator belonging to the National Democratic Party, vented racist insults against foreigners.
Source - http://www.iht.com
By Judy Dempsey
Published: August 20, 2007
BERLIN: Dozens of young Germans attacked a group of Indian visitors to a village in the eastern state of Saxony over the weekend, chasing them through the streets and smashing up the restaurant where the Indians had taken refuge, the local police confirmed Monday.
The incident, which took place Saturday in Mügeln, about 45 kilometers, or 28 miles, east of Leipzig, was witnessed by a large crowd, which apparently did not take any action to stop the attack against the eight Indians. The Saxony police did not release news of the attack until late Sunday. "We are not ruling out a xenophobic motive," said the police chief of Saxony, Bernd Merbitz.
Saxony has a small but growing far-right movement that supports the National Democratic Party. The party has been represented in the regional legislature since the 2005 elections. Brandenburg, another eastern state, also has a far-right movement that is represented in the regional legislature.
According to the police in Saxony, more than 70 police officers were needed to stop the violence. In addition to the Indians, four Germans, including two police officers, were injured. Other details about the Indians were not immediately available. The authorities have called for an investigation. As yet, there have been no arrests.
The cause of the attack on the Indians, who had been invited to a festival, is unclear. Late Saturday, a scuffle broke out in the festival tent and about 50 youths chased the eight Indians, chanting racist slogans, according to the Leipziger Volkszeitung, a regional newspaper. Reinhard Bottcher, chief of the local police, said he could not confirm whether the mob had shouted racist insults.
When the Indians fled to a pizzeria, the Germans smashed windowpanes and damaged the pizzeria owner's car. "If the police had not come, something much worse might have happened," the Leipziger Volkszeitung quoted the owner as saying.
Gotthard Deuse, mayor of Mügeln, was quoted by the paper as saying that the incident had been racially motivated and that rightist slogans had been chanted. Bottcher said he thought alcohol might have played a role.
There is growing concern on the part of some German politicians about the increasing number of attacks by rightists. Two months ago, some actors were beaten by skinheads in Brandenburg, an incident in which the police were sharply criticized for not having responded quickly enough.
During a debate in May in the Bundestag, the lower house of Parliament, politicians called on Chancellor Angela Merkel's coalition government of conservatives and Social Democrats to do more to curb extremism. The debate coincided with a similar debate in Saxony's regional legislature after Holger Apfel, a legislator belonging to the National Democratic Party, vented racist insults against foreigners.
Source - http://www.iht.com
GERMANS SUCKS
i was born there, so i know what i said
usa is much better
QUOTE(GreyFox @ Dec 27 2007, 01:48 PM)
Just hope you guys will keep in mind that if it wasn't for their reputation, public image, and all the economic benefits that comes along with it, the Germans would walk by the site of you getting your skulls crushed and laugh.
Good job on that generalization. It's good that you stereotype people, because if you didn't, we'd only have those racist Germans left to do it right?
QUOTE(Tabs @ Dec 27 2007, 04:04 PM)
Good job on that generalization. It's good that you stereotype people, because if you didn't, we'd only have those racist Germans left to do it right?
Dame it, you got me there. I must admit, that particular statement was a little non-sensical for the most part. I guess I should make a more sensible generalization:
Just hope you guys will keep in mind that if it wasn't for their reputation, public image, and all the economic benefits that comes along with it, the "Nice" Germans would not spend a dime worth of energy to punish those "Mean" Germans who do horrendous things to others or aid the helpless against the "Mean" Germans. The "Nice" Germans would just block out all negative thoughts, make themselves willingly ignorant of the fact that innocent people are getting hurt, then get drunk and do whatever they do to make themselves happy.
Generalization and stereotyping both occur for a reason you know. I never said that each and every single German fits my description of assholes who care only for their own reputation, while not giving a $hit for the life and well-being of others; but the majority of them do. And a having a select few Germans who actually care about others makes no real difference about the image of Germans as a whole.
Notice how the whole article was centered on issues like these:
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The attack has triggered fresh public debate about far-right extremism in the formerly communist east of Germany, which has seen a string of racist assaults since unification in 1990. Politicians and business leaders have expressed concern that the country's reputation abroad may have been hurt and that foreign investors be deterred from coming to Germany.
Wolfgang Thierse, Social Democrat vice president of the Bundestag lower house of parliament, said: "The worse Germany's reputation becomes, the fewer people who we need for our progress and prosperity will come here," Thierse told Berliner Zeitung.
Wolfgang Thierse, Social Democrat vice president of the Bundestag lower house of parliament, said: "The worse Germany's reputation becomes, the fewer people who we need for our progress and prosperity will come here," Thierse told Berliner Zeitung.
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"These events don't just cast a negative light on Leipzig as a business location, but also on Saxony and the whole of Eastern Germany," said Thomas Hofmann, head of Leipzig's chamber of commerce. He said Germany's economy would be hurt if the country doesn't get to grips with the racist attacks.
"This applies to foreign investors who are already active here and potential investors who are still deciding where to invest," said Hofmann.
"This applies to foreign investors who are already active here and potential investors who are still deciding where to invest," said Hofmann.
Yet not a single excerpt show that any Germans were at all concerned for the well-being of the Indians who were beaten, or if any of them recieved brain damages that'll last for an entire lifetime.
I naturally expect that some Germans will start acting differntly from now on. Not because they truly care for others, but because some of them may read this and realize that they must start putting up a false face and act like they care.
QUOTE(GreyFox @ Dec 27 2007, 06:28 PM)
Just hope you guys will keep in mind that if it wasn't for their reputation, public image, and all the economic benefits that comes along with it, the "Nice" Germans would not spend a dime worth of energy to punish those "Mean" Germans who do horrendous things to others or aid the helpless against the "Mean" Germans. The "Nice" Germans would just block out all negative thoughts, make themselves willingly ignorant of the fact that innocent people are getting hurt, then get drunk and do whatever they do to make themselves happy.
I think your point works better if you apply it to all humanity, because that's where it TRULY exists as a poignant question. What is the human reaction to hatred and mass violence? So far in the history of human events, it has been submission and acceptance, and the Germans are certainly no different.
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