Jihad
Jihad means "to strive or struggle," and is considered the "sixth pillar of Islam" by a minority of Muslim authorities. Within Islamic jurisprudence, jihad is usually taken to mean military exertion against non-Muslim combatants in the defense or expansion of the Islamic state, the ultimate purpose of which is to establish the universal domination of Islam. Jihad, the only form of warfare permissible in Islamic law, may be declared against non-Muslims who refuse to convert to Islam or submit to Islamic rule. Jihad is perpetual in nature; in theory, there can be no permanent peace with non-Muslim states, only truces which can be repudiated when circumstances become favorable for the resumption of hostilities. It ceases only when Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians submit to the authority of Islam and agree to pay the jizya (a poll tax) and kharaj (a land tax), and when polytheists convert to Islam.
Under most circumstances and for most Muslims, jihad is a collective duty (fard kifaya): its performance by some individuals exempts the others. Only for those vested with authority, especially the sovereign (imam), does jihad become an individual duty. For the rest of the populace, this happens only in the case of a general mobilization. For most Shias, offensive jihad can only be declared by a divinely appointed leader of the Muslim community, and as such is suspended in his absence. Some Muslim authorities, especially among the Shi'a and Sufis, distinguish between the "greater jihad", which pertains to spiritual self-perfection, and the "lesser jihad", defined as warfare. Jihad also refers to one's striving to attain religious and moral perfection.
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What's your opinion about Jihad (Holy War)?
Full Version: About this Radical Islam thing.....
Anyone? 
It's dangerous...just like those radical Christians/Catholics who think that Pinas is not overpopulated.
QUOTE(woohpsie @ Aug 29 2007, 07:19 PM) [snapback]3173371[/snapback]
It's dangerous...just like those radical Christians/Catholics who think that Pinas is not overpopulated.
Yeah. The sad part is that's 65% of the practicing Filipino Catholics that think so.
QUOTE(iMumble @ Aug 29 2007, 07:23 PM) [snapback]3173378[/snapback]
Yeah. The sad part is that's 65% of the practicing Filipino Catholics that think so.
65% thinking what?
Dangerous or Overpopulated? Which does the 65% go?
fu-k it, perhaps this is just another step in Filipino evolution, war makes people stronger, it kick starts the evolutionary cycle further. War is cold and inconvenient but thats just the way it goes.
i think they perceived jihad in a wrong way...
not all muslim wants to kill those who are non-muslim.
it's like catholics thinking that they can procreate and procreate because the church said no to contraceptions when the children they bear cannot eat and live properly....
right doctrines, wrong interpretation and practice!
not all muslim wants to kill those who are non-muslim.
it's like catholics thinking that they can procreate and procreate because the church said no to contraceptions when the children they bear cannot eat and live properly....
right doctrines, wrong interpretation and practice!
QUOTE(calliezhou @ Aug 30 2007, 06:38 PM) [snapback]3175813[/snapback]
i think they perceived jihad in a wrong way...
not all muslim wants to kill those who are non-muslim.
it's like catholics thinking that they can procreate and procreate because the church said no to contraceptions when the children they bear cannot eat and live properly....
right doctrines, wrong interpretation and practice!
not all muslim wants to kill those who are non-muslim.
it's like catholics thinking that they can procreate and procreate because the church said no to contraceptions when the children they bear cannot eat and live properly....
right doctrines, wrong interpretation and practice!
Are you even reading your Qu'ran? What about this:
From Qu'ran:
9:5: "Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful." (Awwsss???? Really?)
(We Christians, Jews and other faiths are IDOLATERS to Muslims...!!!)
9:29: "Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute [jizya tax] readily, being brought low." (Whre is the freedom of Religion eh?)
QUOTE(calliezhou @ Aug 30 2007, 06:38 PM) [snapback]3175813[/snapback]
it's like catholics thinking that they can procreate and procreate because the church said no to contraceptions when the children they bear cannot eat and live properly....
Are you discussing about POVERTY? You are SO OUT of CONTEXT! We are talking here about Jihad.
QUOTE(extreme098 @ Aug 31 2007, 07:47 AM) [snapback]3175833[/snapback]
Are you even reading your Qu'ran? What about this:
From Qu'ran:
9:5: "Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful." (Awwsss???? Really?)
(We Christians, Jews and other faiths are IDOLATERS to Muslims...!!!)
9:29: "Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute [jizya tax] readily, being brought low." (Whre is the freedom of Religion eh?)
From Qu'ran:
9:5: "Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful." (Awwsss???? Really?)
(We Christians, Jews and other faiths are IDOLATERS to Muslims...!!!)
9:29: "Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute [jizya tax] readily, being brought low." (Whre is the freedom of Religion eh?)
have you talked to a muslim?
even the muslims in the mindanao are against those who killed relentlessly and injure even the innocent ones (civilians)...
QUOTE(calliezhou @ Aug 30 2007, 06:54 PM) [snapback]3175848[/snapback]
have you talked to a muslim?
even the muslims in the mindanao are against those who killed relentlessly and injure even the innocent ones (civilians)...
even the muslims in the mindanao are against those who killed relentlessly and injure even the innocent ones (civilians)...
Yes, I have two uncles that are Muslims who are Hajjis. But the issue is Radical Islam which preaches hatred by killing infidels as written in the Qu'ran...About the "muslims in the mindanao are against those who killed relentlessly and injure even the innocent ones (civilians)...," if they don't agree what MILF and MNLF and Abu Sayyaf (
) are doing why do they condone the killings and murders of innocent people?
QUOTE(extreme098 @ Aug 31 2007, 08:01 AM) [snapback]3175858[/snapback]
Yes, I have two uncles that are Muslims who are Hajjis. But the issue is Radical Islam which preaches hatred by killing infidels as written in the Qu'ran...About the "muslims in the mindanao are against those who killed relentlessly and injure even the innocent ones (civilians)...," if they don't agree what MILF and MNLF and Abu Sayyaf ( ) are doing why do they condone the killings and murders of innocent people?
) are doing why do they condone the killings and murders of innocent people? they don't condone....they too are innocent victims here.... some of them are killed too...get hungry and lose their homes...
they have no power to stop it... they are caught in between... caught in the war...they could'nt even leave mindanao....
and even muslims in manila are sandwiched in the middle...they are honestly earning a living and at times they get ridiculed for being muslims when in fact they had nothing to do with the war...the killings in mindanao...
at times, they are mistaken to be spies and are tortured... that's what's eating the innocent muslims...to be faulted for something they did not do....not all muslims are like that....
Personally, both of these religions serve little or no use for the Filipino people, both were made up from very different parts of the world to serve their civilisation. I dont think the catholic christ or muslim alah give two $hits about Filipinos, who, how and why on earth have its people giving in to the lies and deciept to its garbage??
All its done was to control, pollute our minds and society. We are basically cannon fodder to its bull$hit and is why i dont practice nor believe in the catholic faith, in fact i loathe it.
Catholic priests shafting little altar boys wtf is that all about then?? If god was so humble then why is man so lavished in gold expensive churches?? i smell BS!!
Muslim women dont have or limited rights? not allowed to show their faces wtf??
Perhaps when we have a big mighty war, until everything is exhausted, perhaps can we all sit down and see religion for its manipulative lies!!
Two religious factions = war!!
All its done was to control, pollute our minds and society. We are basically cannon fodder to its bull$hit and is why i dont practice nor believe in the catholic faith, in fact i loathe it.
Catholic priests shafting little altar boys wtf is that all about then?? If god was so humble then why is man so lavished in gold expensive churches?? i smell BS!!
Muslim women dont have or limited rights? not allowed to show their faces wtf??
Perhaps when we have a big mighty war, until everything is exhausted, perhaps can we all sit down and see religion for its manipulative lies!!
Two religious factions = war!!
QUOTE(Barilin-Kita @ Aug 31 2007, 01:50 PM) [snapback]3176609[/snapback]
Personally, both of these religions serve little or no use for the Filipino people, both were made up from very different parts of the world to serve their civilisation. I dont think the catholic christ or muslim alah give two $hits about Filipinos, who, how and why on earth have its people giving in to the lies and deciept to its garbage??
All its done was to control, pollute our minds and society. We are basically cannon fodder to its bull$hit and is why i dont practice nor believe in the catholic faith, in fact i loathe it.
Catholic priests shafting little altar boys wtf is that all about then?? If god was so humble then why is man so lavished in gold expensive churches?? i smell BS!!
Muslim women dont have or limited rights? not allowed to show their faces wtf??
Perhaps when we have a big mighty war, until everything is exhausted, perhaps can we all sit down and see religion for its manipulative lies!!
Two religious factions = war!!
All its done was to control, pollute our minds and society. We are basically cannon fodder to its bull$hit and is why i dont practice nor believe in the catholic faith, in fact i loathe it.
Catholic priests shafting little altar boys wtf is that all about then?? If god was so humble then why is man so lavished in gold expensive churches?? i smell BS!!
Muslim women dont have or limited rights? not allowed to show their faces wtf??
Perhaps when we have a big mighty war, until everything is exhausted, perhaps can we all sit down and see religion for its manipulative lies!!
Two religious factions = war!!
you are GENERALIZING!
QUOTE(calliezhou @ Aug 31 2007, 06:20 AM) [snapback]3176682[/snapback]
you are GENERALIZING!
Explain
QUOTE(Barilin-Kita @ Aug 31 2007, 01:50 PM) [snapback]3176609[/snapback]
Personally, both of these religions serve little or no use for the Filipino people, both were made up from very different parts of the world to serve their civilisation. I dont think the catholic christ or muslim alah give two $hits about Filipinos, who, how and why on earth have its people giving in to the lies and deciept to its garbage??
All its done was to control, pollute our minds and society. We are basically cannon fodder to its bull$hit and is why i dont practice nor believe in the catholic faith, in fact i loathe it.
Catholic priests shafting little altar boys wtf is that all about then?? If god was so humble then why is man so lavished in gold expensive churches?? i smell BS!!
Muslim women dont have or limited rights? not allowed to show their faces wtf??
Perhaps when we have a big mighty war, until everything is exhausted, perhaps can we all sit down and see religion for its manipulative lies!!
Two religious factions = war!!
All its done was to control, pollute our minds and society. We are basically cannon fodder to its bull$hit and is why i dont practice nor believe in the catholic faith, in fact i loathe it.
Catholic priests shafting little altar boys wtf is that all about then?? If god was so humble then why is man so lavished in gold expensive churches?? i smell BS!!
Muslim women dont have or limited rights? not allowed to show their faces wtf??
Perhaps when we have a big mighty war, until everything is exhausted, perhaps can we all sit down and see religion for its manipulative lies!!
Two religious factions = war!!
you have based your biases by those things you mentioned, i quote:
1.) Catholic priests shafting little altar boys wtf is that all about then??
2.) If god was so humble then why is man so lavished in gold expensive churches?? i smell BS!!
3) Muslim women dont have or limited rights? not allowed to show their faces wtf??
don't you know that every religion has different set of beliefs and rituals they observe and practice. they have their reasons for doing or believing so. You cannot fault them for that...
and when i said you are generalizing, i meant you did not consider the fact that not all church are laced in gold, not all catholic priests are evil (and what did u mean by shaft? i'm assuming it's slang for something evil
) and just because muslim women do not show their faces, they are less of a woman or whatever you wanna emphasize with that statement...you an atheist? just wondering?
QUOTE(Barilin-Kita @ Aug 30 2007, 04:11 PM) [snapback]3175765[/snapback]
fu-k it, perhaps this is just another step in Filipino evolution, war makes people stronger, it kick starts the evolutionary cycle further. War is cold and inconvenient but thats just the way it goes.
I've always considered the bleeding-heart, peace-loving, laid-back traits of Filipinos as our weakness.
We have to realize that life is not fair, the world is a nasty place, where weaklings are eaten alive.
QUOTE(Barilin-Kita @ Aug 31 2007, 05:50 AM) [snapback]3176609[/snapback]
Personally, both of these religions serve little or no use for the Filipino people, both were made up from very different parts of the world to serve their civilisation. I dont think the catholic christ or muslim alah give two $hits about Filipinos, who, how and why on earth have its people giving in to the lies and deciept to its garbage??
All its done was to control, pollute our minds and society. We are basically cannon fodder to its bull$hit and is why i dont practice nor believe in the catholic faith, in fact i loathe it.Catholic priests shafting little altar boys wtf is that all about then?? If god was so humble then why is man so lavished in gold expensive churches?? i smell BS!!
Muslim women dont have or limited rights? not allowed to show their faces wtf??
Perhaps when we have a big mighty war, until everything is exhausted, perhaps can we all sit down and see religion for its manipulative lies!!
Two religious factions = war!!
All its done was to control, pollute our minds and society. We are basically cannon fodder to its bull$hit and is why i dont practice nor believe in the catholic faith, in fact i loathe it.Catholic priests shafting little altar boys wtf is that all about then?? If god was so humble then why is man so lavished in gold expensive churches?? i smell BS!!
Muslim women dont have or limited rights? not allowed to show their faces wtf??
Perhaps when we have a big mighty war, until everything is exhausted, perhaps can we all sit down and see religion for its manipulative lies!!
Two religious factions = war!!
Highlighted = hint.
Do athiest believe war is not such a bad thing if it helps evoluton?
You mean you dont know what i mean by, preists shafting boys? It means the priest is squeezing his meat inside a dirty pink hole where poo comes out of, simple enough for ya?
QUOTE(Hensoldt @ Aug 31 2007, 06:57 AM) [snapback]3176757[/snapback]
I've always considered the bleeding-heart, peace-loving, laid-back traits of Filipinos as our weakness.
We have to realize that life is not fair, the world is a nasty place, where weaklings are eaten alive.
We have to realize that life is not fair, the world is a nasty place, where weaklings are eaten alive.
Theres always a price to pay!
QUOTE(Barilin-Kita @ Aug 31 2007, 02:58 PM) [snapback]3176761[/snapback]
Highlighted = hint.
Do athiest believe war is not such a bad thing if it helps evoluton?
You mean you dont know what i mean by, preists shafting boys? It means the priest is squeezing his meat inside a dirty pink hole where poo comes out of, simple enough for ya?
Do athiest believe war is not such a bad thing if it helps evoluton?
You mean you dont know what i mean by, preists shafting boys? It means the priest is squeezing his meat inside a dirty pink hole where poo comes out of, simple enough for ya?
is darwin atheist?
(go third eye blind)
QUOTE(calliezhou @ Aug 31 2007, 07:32 AM) [snapback]3176827[/snapback]
is darwin atheist?
(go third eye blind)
(go third eye blind)
Nope, not even close. My name doesnt begin with a "D"
You have 3 eyes?.. No wondeer your confused
QUOTE(iMumble @ Aug 29 2007, 07:23 PM) [snapback]3173378[/snapback]
Yeah. The sad part is that's 65% of the practicing Filipino Catholics that think so.
why blame the catholic church? ive never heard a catholic priest says in the mass lets multiply..or go f*ck after the mass..
Don't say only Catholic Priests shaft boys in the butt, there are also Muslim clerics and other religious persons who do that kind of thing!
extreme098... magbasa ka na lang ng libro. you like to whine about muslims but you get so defensive with catholicism. different religions and cultures promote different beliefs, values, etc. stop with that ethnocentric thinking of yours. since obviously you don't understand their religion, tumahimik ka na lang. 
you can't even differentiate a turban and a hijab.. what more jihad.
you can't even differentiate a turban and a hijab.. what more jihad.
QUOTE(KristlehI @ Aug 31 2007, 01:36 PM) [snapback]3177545[/snapback]
extreme098... magbasa ka na lang ng libro. you like to whine about muslims but you get so defensive with catholicism. different religions and cultures promote different beliefs, values, etc. stop with that ethnocentric thinking of yours. since obviously you don't understand their religion, tumahimik ka na lang. you can't even differentiate a turban and a hijab.. what more jihad.
you can't even differentiate a turban and a hijab.. what more jihad.Of course I have to defend by Religion and What about in Middle East you get imprisoned when you convert from Islam to Christianity or other religions! Ikaw rin magbasa ka rin!
QUOTE(Barilin-Kita @ Aug 31 2007, 04:04 PM) [snapback]3176894[/snapback]
Nope, not even close. My name doesnt begin with a "D"
You have 3 eyes?.. No wondeer your confused
You have 3 eyes?.. No wondeer your confused
i was referring to your evolution comment!
third eye blind is a band... go figure!
QUOTE(calliezhou @ Aug 31 2007, 02:32 AM) [snapback]3176827[/snapback]
is darwin atheist?
(go third eye blind)
(go third eye blind)
QUOTE(extreme098 @ Sep 1 2007, 10:38 AM) [snapback]3178583[/snapback]
i hope you got my humor extreme... barilin-kita seems not...
QUOTE(calliezhou @ Aug 31 2007, 11:07 PM) [snapback]3178822[/snapback]
i hope you got my humor extreme... barilin-kita seems not...
I hope not...coz Filipino Muslims are moderate than the ones that are in the Middle East!
peace-loving war freaks?
I think Islam is more than that.
just like Francis M said you can't have peace then have a gun, jologs or not it is well said
I like Islam, I do, I respect them
but can't they just live normal freaks? freaks like us lols
they love peace but they love well also they love when it is not peace
we all have one God, the three major religions atleast, Islam is just a derivative of Judaism just like Christianity
so is God in a Muslim's belief that selfish?
or is God in a Jew's belief that selfish?
or in Christianity's belief God is that selfish?
Did God really said that I favor these group of people over the others so go and kill em all?
well I'm just asking anyways
I think Islam is more than that.
just like Francis M said you can't have peace then have a gun, jologs or not it is well said
I like Islam, I do, I respect them
but can't they just live normal freaks? freaks like us lols
they love peace but they love well also they love when it is not peace
we all have one God, the three major religions atleast, Islam is just a derivative of Judaism just like Christianity
so is God in a Muslim's belief that selfish?
or is God in a Jew's belief that selfish?
or in Christianity's belief God is that selfish?
Did God really said that I favor these group of people over the others so go and kill em all?
well I'm just asking anyways
QUOTE(extreme098 @ Sep 1 2007, 05:03 AM) [snapback]3177798[/snapback]
Of course I have to defend by Religion and What about in Middle East you get imprisoned when you convert from Islam to Christianity or other religions! Ikaw rin magbasa ka rin!
tapos na akong magbasa. nabasa ko na yung parteng iba ang turban sa hijab. QUOTE(KristlehI @ Sep 1 2007, 11:54 AM) [snapback]3179711[/snapback]
tapos na akong magbasa. nabasa ko na yung parteng iba ang turban sa hijab. Ayan ka naman pala eh...
this radical $hit must stop.....
USA must nuke Iran and Syria to the ground...
the problem with radical muslims is that they are jealous
with superpowers... they must stop dreaming because they
cant even defeat the Jews in Israel.....
USA must nuke Iran and Syria to the ground...
the problem with radical muslims is that they are jealous
with superpowers... they must stop dreaming because they
cant even defeat the Jews in Israel.....
Have you heard if Methane Hydrate . This is the fuel of the future and there is many if it in Mexico and Latin America. Mexico has the most methane hydrate in the world and it can supply the world for the next 3000 years.
Islam and the oil industry is doomed if methane hydrate will be used as fuel.
Islam and the oil industry is doomed if methane hydrate will be used as fuel.
The best thing for Philippines to do is scrutinize any migration of foreign muslim missionaries and charitable organizations coming to the Philippines. A national welfare system for national minorities should be implemented to help poor muslim villages build industries and since we have support from moderate muslim Brunei working with our govt, we can develop our own muslim school system in the Philippines. Thats one way to keep out radical Islam from the shores.
Video of Taliban terrorist accidentally blowing himself up. Stupidity at its best.
Video of Taliban terrorist accidentally blowing himself up. Stupidity at its best.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZY_SeHeqPU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZY_SeHeqPU
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