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ComeClean
you know afrocentrists like to talk about the black race creating many things and conquering people and only recently had their glory displaced by whites.

and korean nationalists, sometimes varying in rhetoric talk about how koreans invented many things that were later attributed to chinese, or how they are descendants from sumerians.

i personally think koreans can be proud, more than afrocentrists because they also look into the future. instead of always talking about the past.
moobie
Africa was dominant for several thousand years, from like 150,000 or 130,000 BC until 40,000-30,000 BC =P lol
MILTON
Afrocentrists are funnier, thats all i know:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCrK5n_7zBM

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Qkhanh
QUOTE(MILTON @ Sep 3 2007, 07:13 PM) [snapback]3184965[/snapback]
Afrocentrists are funnier, thats all i know:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCrK5n_7zBM

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What a bunch of weird fu-ks laugh.gif
Eastern_Knight
QUOTE(ComeClean @ Sep 3 2007, 11:32 PM) [snapback]3184358[/snapback]
you know afrocentrists like to talk about the black race creating many things and conquering people and only recently had their glory displaced by whites.

and korean nationalists, sometimes varying in rhetoric talk about how koreans invented many things that were later attributed to chinese, or how they are descendants from sumerians.

i personally think koreans can be proud, more than afrocentrists because they also look into the future. instead of always talking about the past.


you seem to have a problem with East Asians.
Z tha iLLest
QUOTE(ComeClean @ Sep 3 2007, 10:32 AM) [snapback]3184358[/snapback]
you know afrocentrists like to talk about the black race creating many things and conquering people and only recently had their glory displaced by whites.

and korean nationalists, sometimes varying in rhetoric talk about how koreans invented many things that were later attributed to chinese, or how they are descendants from sumerians.

i personally think koreans can be proud, more than afrocentrists because they also look into the future. instead of always talking about the past.



Actually, Afrocentrics just study and compare African history to European history. i.e. Cleopatra debate. And also it's more focused on the influences of European people from African achievements not conquering people or whatever you was trying to say. Afrocentrism is mostly & always compared to Eurocentrism.


This is a really strange topic because the two honestly have really nothing in common to compare to in my opinion but hey, whatever.


And plus, maybe you should brush up on some reading on Afrocentrics & even Korean Nationalists since you think that the Korean Nationalist has more to be proud of. Because with them, I do believe that they do talk about their history & always use it as a reference.
chitownbroker
QUOTE(ComeClean @ Sep 3 2007, 07:32 AM) [snapback]3184358[/snapback]
you know afrocentrists like to talk about the black race creating many things and conquering people and only recently had their glory displaced by whites.

and korean nationalists, sometimes varying in rhetoric talk about how koreans invented many things that were later attributed to chinese, or how they are descendants from sumerians.

i personally think koreans can be proud, more than afrocentrists because they also look into the future. instead of always talking about the past.



Black Africans never conquered anyone but themselves. They were always subjugated by everyone else. And they've created nothing that has benefited mankind.

I've never heard Koreans claim to be descended from sumerians.
Z tha iLLest
^ Nothing that benefited to mankind?? Nothing at all? Half the things you use in your little life was created by a black person.

Did you go to school? I know you didn't make it very far in life if you did go. Just quit now.
KoreanaHoosierHahkseng
LOL. Blacks like to claim that they've invented the traffic light and other things that makes me laugh.

Koreans, on the other hand, are hard working, take their education seriously, and just look at Korea's high-tech industry with flat-screen TVs, automobiles, misc. electronic gadgets and much more to come.

Africa you ask? What kind of computers do they make? Why are they still having civil wars against one another on the African continent (i.e. Mugabe)?
Z tha iLLest
^ Claim?? It's history, my dude. You make me laugh. Go read some then you'll learn something.

And also who asked those questions though?? No one. What does it have to with topic?? Nothing.
KoreanaHoosierHahkseng
Listen homie. I know you're afro-amercan dude, and got offended by what I've stated. But there are many things blacks claim to have "invented" that is not substantiated by facts.

Okay, I know afro-americans made the cotton gin and peanut butter. But other invetions,..like the traffic light? I think that's way out of hand bro.


QUOTE(Z tha iLLest @ Sep 3 2007, 11:14 PM) [snapback]3185371[/snapback]
^ Claim?? It's history, my dude. You make me laugh. Go read some then you'll learn something.

And also who asked those questions though?? No one. What does it have to with topic?? Nothing.

moobie
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Half the things you use in your little life was created by a black person


Egyptians weren't really "black" in modern sense, but they probably were in the African ethnic spectrum somewhere on the edges.
Z tha iLLest
QUOTE(KoreanaHoosierHahkseng @ Sep 3 2007, 11:23 PM) [snapback]3185388[/snapback]
Listen homie. I know you're afro-amercan dude, and got offended by what I've stated. But there are many things blacks claim to have "invented" that is not substantiated by facts.

Okay, I know afro-americans made the cotton gin and peanut butter. But other invetions,..like the traffic light? I think that's way out of hand bro.



Ha. First. WRONG. I'm not a "Afro American DUDE" I'm a female. Try again. Next. I didn't get offended, I was just stating the obvious, that you need to read some history because it's obvious that you did not....and probably never did. Just because you think lowly on black people & I'm sure YOU truly believe that some black people couldn't POSSIBLE invent things that could help mankind, doesn't mean that it's true & everybody else agrees.

You asking & bringing up computers when it's a Afrocentrics/Korean Nationalist discussion. And as far as computers go, do yourself a favor and look up "Otis Boykin" in google or wikipedia--whatever you've been using & tell me what you find.



QUOTE(moobie @ Sep 3 2007, 11:43 PM) [snapback]3185438[/snapback]
Egyptians weren't really "black" in modern sense, but they probably were in the African ethnic spectrum somewhere on the edges.



Yeah. That's a debate, just like I saying before with the Afrocentrics/Eurocentrism.In my opinion, I believe they were black, I guess that's just me in this thread.
chitownbroker
QUOTE(Z tha iLLest @ Sep 3 2007, 06:38 PM) [snapback]3185235[/snapback]
^ Nothing that benefited to mankind?? Nothing at all? Half the things you use in your little life was created by a black person.

Did you go to school? I know you didn't make it very far in life if you did go. Just quit now.



I actually graduated with a double concentration in Finance and Information Systems from grad school. I would consider myself an educated person.

Half the things I use in my life? Oh please, you're the one that should quit now. Maybe .001% of the things I use, but hardly half. Plus, if you look at the few black inventors in history, they were all mulattoes. When's the last time you heard of a great african invention, aside from mud huts which I've seen otters and beavers build equivalences to? Ever hear of any great african philosophers or any great african literature? That's because there never was any. Blacks didn't even have a writing system until Europeans introduced them to the concept. They're the only people who didn't understand the concept of swimming until Europeans introduced that to them.

On the other hand, Middle Easterners, Native Americans, and Asians all have contributed great concepts to mankind.
Z tha iLLest
Wow. I'm shocked. I thought you dropped out in high school, but okay. Finance & Information Systems is very different from History, if you did not know.

Yes, I have heard of many great African philosophers & great African literature. Do you want me to list them here or do you want me to e-mail it to you? And what you're saying how Africans didn't have any writing systems until Europeans introduced it, is something I think you're wrong about. Also. That makes no sense, some Africans lived near water, how are they NOT going to know how to swim? Try again.

Sorry, to burst your bubble because I know you think negative about Africans/black people because of what you seen on BET or whatever but Africans/black people are apart of history. Deal with it. Since you're so concerned with this maybe you should go back to school for this & get a degree in it. And like I said, just quit in life now.
keralaguy
maan cut out all the racism you nutters

so many of the things you are saying are so incorrect

its not good to make fools of yourselves
chitownbroker
QUOTE(Z tha iLLest @ Sep 3 2007, 09:07 PM) [snapback]3185493[/snapback]
Wow. I'm shocked. I thought you dropped out in high school, but okay. Finance & Information Systems is very different from History, if you did not know.

Yes, I have heard of many great African philosophers & great African literature. Do you want me to list them here or do you want me to e-mail it to you? And what you're saying how Africans didn't have any writing systems until Europeans introduced it, is something I think you're wrong about. Also. That makes no sense, some Africans lived near water, how are they NOT going to know how to swim? Try again.

Sorry, to burst your bubble because I know you think negative about Africans/black people because of what you seen on BET or whatever but Africans/black people are apart of history. Deal with it. Since you're so concerned with this maybe you should go back to school for this & get a degree in it. And like I said, just quit in life now.


No, sorry to burst your bubble, but black africans never had a writing system. The only africans that had writing systems were the berbers and arabs in northern africa. Which also brings me to mention that ancient egyptians were berbers and didn't look all that much different than modern egyptians. The only reason why black people like to claim egypt is because it's the only african nation that's ever achieved anything world renowned.

I never claimed that black people didn't live by water. There is water all over and around africa. Blacks just never thought of the concept of swimming. And I never claimed black people aren't an important part of history, they are. I was just mocking the claims by afro-centrists that blacks have invented so much, when we all know- THAT'S A LIE.
MethodMan
Can this thread just be locked?
KoreanaHoosierHahkseng
QUOTE(chitownbroker @ Sep 4 2007, 12:18 AM) [snapback]3185522[/snapback]
No, sorry to burst your bubble, but black africans never had a writing system. The only africans that had writing systems were the berbers and arabs in northern africa. Which also brings me to mention that ancient egyptians were berbers and didn't look all that much different than modern egyptians. The only reason why black people like to claim egypt is because it's the only african nation that's ever achieved anything world renowned.

I never claimed that black people didn't live by water. There is water all over and around africa. Blacks just never thought of the concept of swimming. And I never claimed black people aren't an important part of history, they are. I was just mocking the claims by afro-centrists that blacks have invented so much, when we all know- THAT'S A LIE.


Amen Chitownbroker. you hit the nail right on the board's bulls eye.

All the lies of afro-centrist extremists are bunch of BS. Unfortunately, it's useless arguing with a black person.
Jagger
QUOTE(Z tha iLLest @ Sep 4 2007, 01:54 AM) [snapback]3185182[/snapback]
Actually, Afrocentrics just study and compare African history to European history. i.e. Cleopatra debate. And also it's more focused on the influences of European people from African achievements not conquering people or whatever you was trying to say. Afrocentrism is mostly & always compared to Eurocentrism.
This is a really strange topic because the two honestly have really nothing in common to compare to in my opinion but hey, whatever.
And plus, maybe you should brush up on some reading on Afrocentrics & even Korean Nationalists since you think that the Korean Nationalist has more to be proud of. Because with them, I do believe that they do talk about their history & always use it as a reference.

I have seen of a few Afrocentrists who claimed the three earliest civilizations (Mesopotamia, Egypt, and the Indus Valley) were founded by black Africans. Egypt (or at least Upper Egypt) may have had a black presence, but the other claims are unfounded.

QUOTE(chitownbroker @ Sep 4 2007, 02:29 AM) [snapback]3185225[/snapback]
Black Africans never conquered anyone but themselves. They were always subjugated by everyone else. And they've created nothing that has benefited mankind.

I've never heard Koreans claim to be descended from sumerians.

The early Homo Sapiens who defeated the Neanderthals, Cro-Magnons, etc. and colonized most of the Old World were black people from Africa. Most of the basic tools that were invented during the Paleolithic era came from Africa, including stone tools, knives, controlled fire, sterilization of food and water, cooking, shelters, clothing, blades, boats, sticks, mines, needles, etc. You humans would have died out a long time ago if black Africans didn't invent those basic tools or if they didn't expand across the Old World (not that I mind if humans die out, humans are a plague anyway).

There was a Korean nationalist user here last year who claimed Sumerians were related to Altaic peoples (including Koreans). On the other hand, there are some Afrocentrists claiming the Sumerians were black people from Africa. There are also some Indian nationalists who claim the Sumerians were related to Dravidians of the Indus Valley.

QUOTE(Z tha iLLest @ Sep 4 2007, 02:38 AM) [snapback]3185235[/snapback]
^ Nothing that benefited to mankind?? Nothing at all? Half the things you use in your little life was created by a black person.

Did you go to school? I know you didn't make it very far in life if you did go. Just quit now.

Black Africans did invent a handful of important inventions, but "half the things you use" is pushing it. If I had to guess, I wouldn't say even Europeans invented as many as "half the things you use".
Mythlore
QUOTE(KoreanaHoosierHahkseng @ Sep 3 2007, 11:23 PM) [snapback]3185388[/snapback]
I know you're afro-amercan dude, and got offended by what I've stated.
weI'm're not a black man..weI'm're just currently holstered in one. we'I'M're not human so no offence was taken,even though that was your intent. There is every need to fear, The Atrocity is here! From the "Black judge who sued Korean dry cleaners" thread Asian Culture > Korean Chat:
QUOTE(Mythlore @ Aug 7 2007, 10:51 PM) [snapback]3184428[/snapback]
Look,let mUSe tell you some things:

1.wIe hate humans. Your all ape-like,bleeding bipedal,defecating,expectorating,mammalian,opposable-thumbed,perspiring,pissing,quasi-sentient secreting mud pies.

Contemptible carbon cones. Dirt husks. Dirty water balloons. Mud muppets. Mobile solidified puddels of earth vomit.

Mobile mud dollops detesting one another,like fingers of a hand loathing their neighbouring fellow digits when all of you are just fecal pap smears of somber and varying hues.

Can't fathom why The Maker picked despicable dirt derivatives over us;however, time grows short for all you gross gravity-bound bacterium. A word from The Mighty is the ONLY thing that has held back the annihilation of Adam and Eve's scions.

Everyday you runny mud receptacles prove mUSe and oMuYr kind right and earn your fate when all accounts are settled.

2.Racism make for a poor weapon against racism.

3.Your list sucks. Blacks contribution in the areas of dance,music {bee bop,blues,classical,doo wop jazz,rap,reggaeR&B,rock,soul,salsa,true hip hop} and sports should be a given. Woods is more asian than african-american.
Bump art,music and sports. Your a poor spokeperson for N*ggas,the progenitors of hominidae. In my current host(a N*gga) wIe can do better. It has some knowledge in this area..for a human.

Here's a list in no particular order:
Henrey Sampson-Gamma electrical cell
Farrah Gray- Entrepreneur,author of the book Reallionaire.
Dr. Patrica Bath-Opthamologist.
Dr Mark Dean-Electrical Engineering.
Dr. Philip Emeagwali: Inventor of the World's Fastest Computer.
Dr Betty Harris-Chemist.
Dr Shirley Jackson-Inventor&Theoretical physicist..
Dr Charles Andrew-Blood Plasma.
Dr. Daniel Hale Williams-the first successful American open-heart surgery.
Ralph Bunche- American political scientist, diplomat who received the 1950 Nobel Peace Prize..
Viven T.Thomas..check on this dude..great example of what blacks go though..not that I give a damn.
Lonnie G Johnson-inventor and scientist who worked on the Galileo Jupiter probe and Mars Observer project.
Valerie Thomas: Inventor of the Illusion Transmitter..
John Henry Thompson: Computer Programming and Software Inventions.
Dr. James E. West: Electriet Microphone Inventor.
Kenneth J. Dunkley is currently the president of the Holospace Laboratories Inc. in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.
Adolph Shamms-Multi Stage rocket.
Wm.Harwell-Space shuttle retrieval arm.
G.T.Sampson-Clothes Drier...Oh,the irony!
Joseph N. Jackson-Programable remote controllers&Video commander..
Otis Boykin-Guided missile,Pace maker controls..
J.F. Pickering Air ship(Blimp).
W.B. Purvis-Fountain pen,Hand Stamp.
Alice H Parker-Heating Furnace.
Dewey Sanderson-Urinalysis Machine.
Paul E. Williams-Helicopter....De vinci designed the frist one.
Garrett Morgan-Safety Hood Gas Mask and A Traffic light.
Alexander Miles-Improved Elevator.
T. Elkins-A commode...Hey,you have to cop a squat every now and then..filthy humans.
Clatonia J Dorticus-Photo Embossing machine and print wash.
Geo Carruthers-Image converter & Radiation Detector.
George Cook-Automatic fishing reel.
Burridge & Marshman-Typewriter.
O Dorsey-Door Knob..You have to get in and out don't you?.
R.B Spikes-Automatic Gear Shift.
Granville T Woods-Telephone System,Elector Mech Brake,auto air brake,electric cut-off switch,relay instrument.
Rufus J weaver-Stairclimbing Wheelchair.
J.B Winters-Fire escape ladder.
Tom J.Marshal Fire Extingusher.
John A Burr-Lawn mower.
Lester Lee-Laser Fuels.
F.W.Leslie-Envelope Seal.
Marie Brown-Home Security System.
Phil Brooks-Disosable Syringe.
H. Bradberry-Torpedo Discharger.
Frederick M. Jones-Air Conditioner,Internal combustion Engine,Starter generator,Portable refrigerator.
Edwin R Russell & George W. Reed -Mathematical Physics that worked on Fat Man and Little boy,the atomic bombs.
Neil deGrasse Tyson-Astronomers & Astrophysicists.
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Blacks like to claim that they've invented the traffic light and other things that makes me laugh.
The truth can be funny,if utilized properly. Garrett Morgan did invent a traffic light in 1922 and Morgan invented the safety hood and later revised it,which was used to save trapped workers in the Lake Erie Crib Disaster of 1917. His safety hood eventually evolved to become a type of gas mask.
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Koreans, on the other hand, are hard working
Blacks don't work hard?!! Damn,they sure pulled the cotton over white folks eyes during slavery!
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,take their education seriously
Note the embarrassing lack of mentioning why so many descendents of subjugated blacks do not..but let us forge ahead.
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and just look at Korea's high-tech industry with flat-screen TVs, automobiles, misc. electronic gadgets and much more to come.
No argument here.
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Africa you ask? What kind of computers do they make? Why are they still having civil wars against one another on the African continent?
Do you honestly not know the answer to this question?...If such is the case..Do you really want to find out? {Just don't want to waste oMuYr time edifying you if it's unwanted!}
QUOTE(moobie @ Sep 3 2007, 11:43 PM) [snapback]3185438[/snapback]
Egyptians weren't really "black" in modern sense, but they probably were in the African ethnic spectrum somewhere on the edges.
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QUOTE(chitownbroker @ Sep 3 2007, 11:56 PM) [snapback]3185468[/snapback]
I actually graduated with a double concentration in Finance and Information Systems from grad school. I would consider myself an educated person.Plus, if you look at the few black inventors in history, they were all mulattoes. When's the last time you heard of a great african invention, aside from mud huts which I've seen otters and beavers build equivalences to? Ever hear of any great african philosophers or any great african literature? That's because there never was any. Blacks didn't even have a writing system until Europeans introduced them to the concept. They're the only people who didn't understand the concept of swimming until Europeans introduced that to them.
Judging from your posts in this thread you no doubt have a penchant for trying to persuade the wealthy their destitute!

African Literature:
Ngugi wa Thiong'o of Kenya wrote the first East African drama, The Black Hermit, a cautionary tale about tribalism in 1962.
Olaudah Equiano's The Interesting Narrative of the Life and Adventures of Olaudah Equiano, also called Gustavus Vassa, the African (1789).
Wole Soyinka http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wole_Soyinka
Joseph Ephraim Casely-Hayford (also known as Ekra-Agiman) of the Gold Coast (now Ghana) published what is probably the first African novel written in English, Ethiopia Unbound: Studies in Race Emancipation
Herbert Isaac Ernest Dhlomo of South Africa published the first English-language African play , The Girl Who Killed to Save: Nongquase the Liberator in 1935
Chinua Achebe, Things Fall Apart (Nigeria)
Gracy Ukala, Dizzy Angel (Nigeria)
Daniel Olorunfemi Fagunwa, The Forest of a Thousand Demons (Nigeria)

Mariama Bâ, Une si longue lettre (So Long a Letter) (Senegal)
Ousmane Sembène, Xala (Senegal)
Ngugi wa Thiong'o, A Grain of Wheat (Kenya)
Benjamin Sehene, Le Feu sous la Soutane (Fire under the Cassock) (Rwanda)
Thomas Mofolo, Chaka (South Africa/Lesotho)
Tsitsi Dangarembga, Nervous Conditions (Zimbabwe)
Dambudzo Marechera, The House of Hunger (Zimbabwe/Rhodesia)
Yvonne Vera, Butterfly Burning (Zimbabwe)
Mia Couto, Terra Sonâmbula (A Sleepwalking Land) (Mozambique)
Ayi Kwei Armah, The Beautyful Ones Are Not Yet Born (Ghana)
Ben Okri, The Famished Road (Nigeria)

African philosophers:
Anton Wilhelm Amo http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/amo.htm
Usman dan Fodio http://subsaharansufis.com/index.php?optio...4&Itemid=27
Kwasi Wiredu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwasi_Wiredu
Walda Heywat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walda_Heywat
Paulin J Hountondji http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulin_J._Hountondji
Henry Odera Oruka http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/african-sage/
Ali Mazrui http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Mazrui
Aesop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aesop

"No writting system?"
You don't know of libraries and the manuscripts of Timbuktu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timbuktu
Djenné http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djenn%C3%A9
Dʿmt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%CA%BFmt
Meroe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meroe
Axum http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/CIVAFRCA/AXUM.HTM
Look up the Sultuns of Sennar,The Fung Empire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Asiatic_languages
Surely you've heard of the Rosetta Stone and don't you think that some swimmers were amongst the africans of old that made the long,arduous voyage to australia in the past to give rise to the Koori,Murri,Yamatji
QUOTE(KoreanaHoosierHahkseng @ Sep 4 2007, 08:42 AM) [snapback]3186218[/snapback]
Amen Chitownbroker. you hit the nail right on the board's bulls eye. Unfortunately, it's useless arguing with a black person.
Indubitably not when they know better and Chitown hit "something" of the bull's alright..

Well that should make oMuYr point but knowing humans..heh..your all such $hit stains.

Live Long?
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The Atrocity That Walks Like A man.
Nini_Kya
QUOTE(chitownbroker @ Sep 4 2007, 03:29 AM) [snapback]3185225[/snapback]
Black Africans never conquered anyone but themselves. They were always subjugated by everyone else. And they've created nothing that has benefited mankind.

I've never heard Koreans claim to be descended from sumerians.

WHO are u talking about u dumb fu-k? What do u mean by everyone else ?East asians ,native americans? I dont think africea was ever conquered by them Talktohand.gif
moobie
africans and chinese have been trading without violence for some time.
Jagger
QUOTE(Mythlore @ Sep 4 2007, 10:06 PM) [snapback]3186811[/snapback]
weI'm're not a black man..weI'm're just currently holstered in one. we'I'M're not human so no offence was taken,even though that was your intent. There is every need to fear, The Atrocity is here! From the "Black judge who sued Korean dry cleaners" thread Asian Culture > Korean Chat:
The truth can be funny,if utilized properly. Garrett Morgan did invent a traffic light in 1922 and Morgan invented the safety hood and later revised it,which was used to save trapped workers in the Lake Erie Crib Disaster of 1917. His safety hood eventually evolved to become a type of gas mask.Blacks don't work hard?!! Damn,they sure pulled the cotton over white folks eyes during slavery!Note the embarrassing lack of mentioning why so many descendents of subjugated blacks do not..but let us forge ahead.No argument here.Do you honestly not know the answer to this question?...If such is the case..Do you really want to find out? {Just don't want to waste oMuYr time edifying you if it's unwanted!} eek.gif SHOCKED.gif ...sooommmmwwhherrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeee ooooooveeerrr the edgesrotflmao.gif lol3.gif rotflmao.gif lol3.gif Judging from your posts in this thread you no doubt have a penchant for trying to persuade the wealthy their destitute!

African Literature:
Ngugi wa Thiong'o of Kenya wrote the first East African drama, The Black Hermit, a cautionary tale about tribalism in 1962.
Olaudah Equiano's The Interesting Narrative of the Life and Adventures of Olaudah Equiano, also called Gustavus Vassa, the African (1789).
Wole Soyinka http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wole_Soyinka
Joseph Ephraim Casely-Hayford (also known as Ekra-Agiman) of the Gold Coast (now Ghana) published what is probably the first African novel written in English, Ethiopia Unbound: Studies in Race Emancipation
Herbert Isaac Ernest Dhlomo of South Africa published the first English-language African play , The Girl Who Killed to Save: Nongquase the Liberator in 1935
Chinua Achebe, Things Fall Apart (Nigeria)
Gracy Ukala, Dizzy Angel (Nigeria)
Daniel Olorunfemi Fagunwa, The Forest of a Thousand Demons (Nigeria)

Mariama Bâ, Une si longue lettre (So Long a Letter) (Senegal)
Ousmane Sembène, Xala (Senegal)
Ngugi wa Thiong'o, A Grain of Wheat (Kenya)
Benjamin Sehene, Le Feu sous la Soutane (Fire under the Cassock) (Rwanda)
Thomas Mofolo, Chaka (South Africa/Lesotho)
Tsitsi Dangarembga, Nervous Conditions (Zimbabwe)
Dambudzo Marechera, The House of Hunger (Zimbabwe/Rhodesia)
Yvonne Vera, Butterfly Burning (Zimbabwe)
Mia Couto, Terra Sonâmbula (A Sleepwalking Land) (Mozambique)
Ayi Kwei Armah, The Beautyful Ones Are Not Yet Born (Ghana)
Ben Okri, The Famished Road (Nigeria)

African philosophers:
Anton Wilhelm Amo http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/amo.htm
Usman dan Fodio http://subsaharansufis.com/index.php?optio...4&Itemid=27
Kwasi Wiredu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwasi_Wiredu
Walda Heywat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walda_Heywat
Paulin J Hountondji http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulin_J._Hountondji
Henry Odera Oruka http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/african-sage/
Ali Mazrui http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Mazrui
Aesop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aesop

"No writting system?"
You don't know of libraries and the manuscripts of Timbuktu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timbuktu
Djenné http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djenn%C3%A9
Dʿmt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%CA%BFmt
Meroe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meroe
Axum http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/CIVAFRCA/AXUM.HTM
Look up the Sultuns of Sennar,The Fung Empire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Asiatic_languages
Surely you've heard of the Rosetta Stone and don't you think that some swimmers were amongst the africans of old that made the long,arduous voyage to australia in the past to give rise to the Koori,Murri,Yamatji
Indubitably not when they know better and Chitown hit "something" of the bull's alright..

Well that should make oMuYr point but knowing humans..heh..your all such $hit stains.

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Hello, fellow non-human. I am from the Autobot race. What race might you belong to?

Those human-monkey people that rule the Earth are just pathetic and laughable. I am currently planning on eradicating the human race from the face of the Earth. Your assistance will be of great help.

fjilsd w00z fdhghfkorl
MethodMan
That list of black inventions is rife with factual inaccuracy. :/

Here's some more concrete and professional info:

http://www.ritesofpassage.org/inventors.htm
http://inventors.about.com/library/blblack...black+inventors
KoreanaHoosierHahkseng
QUOTE(Mythlore @ Sep 4 2007, 05:06 PM) [snapback]3186811[/snapback]
weI'm're not a black man..weI'm're just currently holstered in one. we'I'M're not human so no offence was taken,even though that was your intent. There is every need to fear, The Atrocity is here! From the "Black judge who sued Korean dry cleaners" thread Asian Culture > Korean Chat:
The truth can be funny,if utilized properly. Garrett Morgan did invent a traffic light in 1922 and Morgan invented the safety hood and later revised it,which was used to save trapped workers in the Lake Erie Crib Disaster of 1917. His safety hood eventually evolved to become a type of gas mask.Blacks don't work hard?!! Damn,they sure pulled the cotton over white folks eyes during slavery!Note the embarrassing lack of mentioning why so many descendents of subjugated blacks do not..but let us forge ahead.No argument here.Do you honestly not know the answer to this question?...If such is the case..Do you really want to find out? {Just don't want to waste oMuYr time edifying you if it's unwanted!} eek.gif SHOCKED.gif ...sooommmmwwhherrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeee ooooooveeerrr the edgesrotflmao.gif lol3.gif rotflmao.gif lol3.gif [color=#FF0000]Judging from your posts in this thread you no doubt have a penchant for trying to persu

(lies on and on...etc)



rotflmao.gif What kind of bull$hit is that pal?
chitownbroker
QUOTE(Nini_Kya @ Sep 4 2007, 02:21 PM) [snapback]3186839[/snapback]
WHO are u talking about u dumb fu-k? What do u mean by everyone else ?East asians ,native americans? I dont think africea was ever conquered by them Talktohand.gif



Actually, most Native American tribes did have black slaves. When europeans brought over black slaves and they escaped from their white owners, quite often, they were captured by Native American tribes and enslaved. That is a reason why so many black americans have native american blood in them.

It was the berbers of north africa and arabs who were the first to enslave blacks and the jews who funded the trans-atlantic slave trade.

It appears the only people who did not enslave blacks were east and south Asians. This was probably due to the distant proximity.
chitownbroker
QUOTE(moobie @ Sep 4 2007, 02:41 PM) [snapback]3186863[/snapback]
africans and chinese have been trading without violence for some time.



Africa will ultimately be a big colony for China:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/stor...6891869,00.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jh...8/31/do3102.xml

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20070...745/1006/SPORTS
liaa
I hate the thought of anyone being enslaved. It's morally deplorable to do that to anyone. It's best we move forward and help underdeveloped nations better thier lives and spread out power over the globe eventually so not one can exploit another.
Qkhanh
QUOTE(chitownbroker @ Sep 4 2007, 11:08 PM) [snapback]3187596[/snapback]
Actually, most Native American tribes did have black slaves. When europeans brought over black slaves and they escaped from their white owners, quite often, they were captured by Native American tribes and enslaved. That is a reason why so many black americans have native american blood in them.

It was the berbers of north africa and arabs who were the first to enslave blacks and the jews who funded the trans-atlantic slave trade.

It appears the only people who did not enslave blacks were east and south Asians. This was probably due to the distant proximity.

Actually, I think China had African slaves during the Tang dynasty, they were traded along the silk road.
chitownbroker
China should ship all the excess men caused by the one-child policy over to Africa.
Mythlore
QUOTE(KoreanaHoosierHahkseng @ Sep 4 2007, 10:55 PM) [snapback]3187570[/snapback]
rotflmao.gif What kind of bull$hit is that pal?
weI'm're sorry. Your query was not recognized. Please specify. If you'd like to make a call......*beep* lol3.gif ...pissing on the herd always brings a smile to The Atrocity's faces!
QUOTE(Jagger @ Sep 4 2007, 09:53 PM) [snapback]3187423[/snapback]
Hello, fellow non-human. I am from the Autobot race. What race might you belong to? Those human-monkey people that rule the Earth are just pathetic and laughable. I am currently planning on eradicating the human race from the face of the Earth. Your assistance will be of great help. fjilsd w00z fdhghfkorl
The Atrocity is a Jinn. Your desire to purge the scum that infest this orb like maggots on roadkill is laudable;however,wIe are skeptical. oMuYr kind watch broadcasts as well and the autobots fought along side humans against the noble decepticons/predacons. Art thou a double-agent,a renegade..or is this some vile deception on your part? In either event humans inclination toward self-negation proceeds apace. MusE and oMuIrNsE want them Damned as well.
QUOTE(MethodMan @ Sep 4 2007, 10:23 PM) [snapback]3187493[/snapback]
That list of black inventions is rife with factual inaccuracy.
"rife" is a overstatement in many time zones. Do you find the fact that you spot the few "irregularities" in oMuYr post but have thus far failed to observe the rampant "mistakes" in chitownbro's contributions to this thread as "par for the course" as wIe? MusE and oMuIrNsE have mixed truth with lies since the beginning of oMuYr hostilities toward the mobile mud huts...most effectively,wIe might add. Simultaneously,wIe wanted oMuYr words essence to ape the precedence set by the op kor hoo hah and extended by chitown bro. Witness:
QUOTE(chitownbroker @ Sep 4 2007, 11:08 PM) [snapback]3187596[/snapback]
Actually, most Native American tribes did have black slaves. When europeans brought over black slaves and they escaped from their white owners, quite often, they were captured by Native American tribes and enslaved. That is a reason why so many black americans have native american blood in them.
jawdrop.gif "Most"? rotflmao.gif Try The Five Civilized Tribes which is the term applied to five Native American nations, the Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek, and Seminole, considered "civilized" by white society because they had adopted many of the colonists' customs and then the "slavery" was a lot different under their administrations..except for the Chickasaw,who became brutal as well. The 2nd Seminole war was fought to a large degree because runaway slave joined up with the seminole in the florida everglades and were not returned. oMuYr current host has creek ties via the seminoles.
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It was the berbers of north africa and arabs who were the first to enslave blacks and the jews who funded the trans-atlantic slave trade.
Somewhat true and false. Question: What did the original hebrew israelites look like?

From the Bible:
Amos 9:7 Are ye not as the children of the Ethiopians unto me,O children of israel? saith the Lord.
Jeremiah 13:23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard his spots?

From the Bible. How to recognize Hebrew israelites by the curses placed on them for not listening to the "Voice of the Lord".
Deuteronomy 28:15-68 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?searc...ronomy+28:15-68
Isaiah 42:22 But this is a poeple robbed and spoiled in holes and are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey and none delivereth; for a spoil and none saith restore...(what group of poeple fill prison where ever you go?)
Deuteronomy 28:37 And thou shalt become an astonishment,a proverb and a byword among all nations whither the Lord shall lead thee....(could this byword be N*gga!)

"So who are the people calling themselves jews presently residing in israel,mythlore?" Glad you asked ya suck humps.

Not oMuYr words but From the Bible:
Revelations 2:9 I know thy works and tribulation and poverty, (but thou are rich)and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of satan.
Revelations 3:9 Behold,I will make them of the synagogue of satan,which say they are jews and are not but do lie....

The israelies let the cat out of the bag themselves! Link? Sho your right!
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsourc...ism/ejhist.html Operations Moses and Joshua. Operation Solomon. Hitler called jazz "N*gga jew" music.....Arabs are the hebrew israelities cousins...ever wonder why their called sand N*ggaS!
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It appears the only people who did not enslave blacks were east and south Asians. This was probably due to the distant proximity.
Looks like your hoping that will change from what you say below:
QUOTE(chitownbroker @ Sep 4 2007, 11:17 PM) [snapback]3187614[/snapback]
Africa will ultimately be a big colony for China:
Maybe chinese will unexpectedly "return to the fold":
http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/200...ineseroots.html
http://www.scienceblog.com/community/older.../200114047.html
http://www.trussel.com/prehist/news255.htm
Bonus Link:
http://www.cwo.com/~lucumi/runoko.html

QUOTE(Qkhanh @ Sep 5 2007, 06:06 AM) [snapback]3188205[/snapback]
Actually, I think China had African slaves during the Tang dynasty, they were traded along the silk road.
Yes,they did,though not nearly as many as the caribbean,europe,the middle east and north/south americas. China has had a African presence in their royalty,too. Emperor Hung-wu{founder of the Ming Dynasty}father was a nubian. An african or two pop up in the Shang Dynasty 400 BC.

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Ico
QUOTE(chitownbroker @ Sep 3 2007, 11:18 PM) [snapback]3185522[/snapback]
No, sorry to burst your bubble, but black africans never had a writing system.

You may be a finance and information systems major but how much african history have you studied? Would it be equal to that of other cultures? Reason I'm asking is because a lot of poeple like to speak like they're experts about african history however they have never even really studied it and simply mimic the selective negatives they hear usually from biased sources like white nationalists to feed their black hate and that is more evident with what you said above.
http://www.library.cornell.edu/africana/Writing_Systems/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writing_systems_of_Africa

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Ever hear of any great african philosophers or any great african literature? That's because there never was any. Blacks didn't even have a writing system until Europeans introduced them to the concept.


Timbuktu and there were plenty of libraries and literature in western africa. Whether it's great is subjective.

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They're the only people who didn't understand the concept of swimming until Europeans introduced that to them.


This just convinced me you're an idiot. There were african tribes who lived near the sea who knew about sailing and seafaring yet they don't know how to swim? Please point to this great academic source that said no african knew how to swim before the great and wonderful europeans came along and introduced it to them. Once again I'm convinced your facts are just mimicked words from some white supremacist you found credible.
KoreanaHoosierHahkseng
More bull$hit flying out of the @$$/mouth of "myth"lore. LOL!!! laugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif
Ico
nevermind...
Qkhanh
QUOTE(Mythlore @ Sep 5 2007, 12:47 PM) [snapback]3188765[/snapback]
Yes,they did,though not nearly as many as the caribbean,europe,the middle east and north/south americas. China has had a African presence in their royalty,too. Emperor Hung-wu{founder of the Ming Dynasty}father was a nubian. An african or two pop up in the Shang Dynasty 400 BC.

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Interesting stuff biggthumpup.gif
Mythlore
QUOTE(Qkhanh @ Sep 5 2007, 06:35 PM) [snapback]3189387[/snapback]
Interesting stuff biggthumpup.gif
Glad you like.
QUOTE(KoreanaHoosierHahkseng @ Sep 5 2007, 04:52 PM) [snapback]3189179[/snapback]
More bull$hit flying out of the @$$/mouth of "myth"lore. LOL!!! laugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif
...says "One that gives no evidence to support their position". But hey,If somebody named "kor hoo ha" can't laugh,who can? rotflmao.gif

*Sing-a-long time,children!*

Come with insults.

Come with mockery.

You aiiiiiin't seeeeeeen nothinnnnnnnnn like The Atroooocccccciiiiiiiiiittttttty!

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MILTON
http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/
Goombaking209
damn so this topic was started out to make one self feel superior by stating they have more to be proud of than another group ^_^ how sad.
KoreanaHoosierHahkseng
Aw, will somebody please close this gay fugly thread. It's only giving "myth"lore a boner to post more BS about afro-centric lies. laugh.gif
Then he /she resorts to singing and ignoring you if that numbskull can't take the fact that you're telling the truth that some of his facts are plain LIES!
peanutfood
QUOTE(MILTON @ Sep 6 2007, 11:41 AM) [snapback]3191251[/snapback]

Thats most likely the only site on the entire net that trys to debunk every african american invention...plus add the fact that its not a legitimate source and probably ran by white supremacist..
There are sites that are government approved that show african american inventions.

Some of you people need to look up the definition of Afro-centrist before you throw it around so foolishly laugh.gif
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