Anyone's family here ua neej....i bet just about everyone.....welll...have u ever thought of the deep religious faith in the our religion???....


i never felt it....


I understand that Hmoob culture doesn't teach spirituality....it's something that one must find for themselves....in the woods.....in a dream, trance or something....

we're picked individually out

but there's no STRONG sence of religious faith to anyone spirit....oh yea....we speak of shao.....but we don't feel his love or his whraft to protect us....WE ONLY SPEAK OF IT..

ANYONE FEEL A NEED FOR THE FAITH IN UA NEEJ.

Sheesh, I have enough with Christian folks already, why do you have to be like them talking about faith?

because without the faith the culture will die...theres' no motive to keep ua neej alive.......on the long run we'll get sucked up into other religions because theres no faith within ua neej....we'll lose the desire to keep it alive....

Faith is so stupid, especially with religion. I do have respect for having faith in other things but not religion. If you want to have faith, go and join them Christians. They'll give you faith...

Then...tell me Shao..........how do u see urself dying and where r u going afterwards..

That does not concern you or me. All that one should be concern about is whether he/she has descendants to carry on the remembrance.

^ i agree.

many anthropologist argues that 'shamanism' is not a religion.
it is more of a spiritual healing. which is true too.

but what you practice, is what you believe in right?

whether you see it or feel it, it's up to you as a person
to decide it. and if you are a really open minded person,
and your religion teaches you to love blah blah blah,

then you shouldnt question the faith of others.
it's just like others asking you the same thing.

im not directing this to you, the topic starter, or anyone in particular, of course.
it's just my opinion of faith and religion.

i think if you have a person that ua neeb in your family then you can understand it better and possibly believe it more. even then when you have someone in your family that is a shaman, you and they still have many questions (but mostly you). it's like a learning process...there is no book where you will learn everything. no book where if it says that it should be that way than it's specifically that way.


to topic starter, what are you asking for exactly?

the yawg saub is the one that sends the neeb down to the txiv neeb. i'm not sure if he can take the neeb away but if the the txiv is not an honest person then the neeb themselves will not help the txiv neeb as much when he/she ua neej and stuff.

it's our ancestors that watches over us and protects us. if we respect them and if we feed them (at those certain times that i don't really know) then they'll watch over us well. if you disrespect your parents and grandparents then it's like disrespecting your ancestors.

also hmong believe in karma, if you do something bad then you'll have something bad happen to you.

that's all i know..which i'm sure is not much.

let me put in my .02$

Faith in hmong/my religion, what ever that is call these days, for me, I have faith that my ancestor are doing their own thing in the next world until they need us or we need them like when Kuv txhaum plaub in my case, I call upon my dad and I think he'll tell the rest of my relative that has travel to the next world a.k.a dead to help me. @ the same time we also have dab in like the xwm kab ( which I learn to teev recently) oh by the way, every time, I ntov pob ntoos or christian would consider it, feed the dead, I xob plaub hau all the time, and u know what they say about xob plaub hau, spirits are around but I don't have that scary feeling, that's my faith,

ever have that while praying, christian? to me that's as real as it gets, and if it's just my mind then so be it but again, that's my faith. get it, got it, good

oh by the way, did you know that jesus was a buddhist monk in sri lanka from the age of 13 to like 25 or something take that to the bank boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii